Re: F30 live images still contain dbus-daemon package, anaconda-core requires it ?
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 2:39 AM, jkone...@redhat.com wrote: The problem is that Anaconda have to start it's own session of dbus but dbus-broker, by design, don't have easy way how to do this without systemd running. TBH we should probably keep dbus-daemon around until we have a replacement for dbus-run-session anyway; it's too useful when working with headless environments like continuous integration, containers, etc. There is already an issue for this at https://github.com/bus1/dbus-broker/issues/145, so Anaconda is far from the only one having this problem. Michael ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30 live images still contain dbus-daemon package, anaconda-core requires it ?
On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 19:12 +0200, Martin Kolman wrote: > On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 11:07 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I just noticed that Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30- > > 20190408.n.0.iso still > > contains the dbus-daemon package even though we are using dbus- > > broker now. > > > > I've tried to rpm -e it and it for some reason it is required by > > anaconda-core which seems weird. > This is by design - we decided to continue using dbus-deamon for the > time being > as dbus-broker required too much extra work on our side for basically > no extra benefits. > > Adding Jirka Konecny who handled this on our side to CC. Hi, yes it is exactly what Martin said. I've spend a lot of time to find a way how we can migrate to DBus- broker but the result wasn't something worth doing now. The problem is that Anaconda have to start it's own session of dbus but dbus-broker, by design, don't have easy way how to do this without systemd running. And unfortunately, Anaconda is also used by RCM in the environment (old chroot mock), where is no systemd and it is not that easy to start systemd there. The result would be to replace existing launcher and play with local sockets for basically no benefit and broke compatibility with RHEL. The broken compatibility would make our life harder if we decide to make a rebase. We can do that later but for now we have a plenty of other work. Hope the explanation helps you, Jirka > > > So should I file a bug against anaconda for this? I guess it is too > > late > > to fix this for F30? > > > > Regards, > > > > Hans > > ___ > > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30 live images still contain dbus-daemon package, anaconda-core requires it ?
On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 11:03 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 3:07 AM Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I just noticed that Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-20190408.n.0.iso still > > contains the dbus-daemon package even though we are using dbus-broker now. > > > > I've tried to rpm -e it and it for some reason it is required by > > anaconda-core which seems weird. > > > > So should I file a bug against anaconda for this? I guess it is too late > > to fix this for F30? > > Anaconda. Freeze is next week. It's not a bug. All is as intended. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1658739#c9 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30 live images still contain dbus-daemon package, anaconda-core requires it ?
On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 11:07 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi All, > > I just noticed that Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-20190408.n.0.iso still > contains the dbus-daemon package even though we are using dbus-broker now. > > I've tried to rpm -e it and it for some reason it is required by > anaconda-core which seems weird. This is by design - we decided to continue using dbus-deamon for the time being as dbus-broker required too much extra work on our side for basically no extra benefits. Adding Jirka Konecny who handled this on our side to CC. > > So should I file a bug against anaconda for this? I guess it is too late > to fix this for F30? > > Regards, > > Hans > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F30 live images still contain dbus-daemon package, anaconda-core requires it ?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 3:07 AM Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi All, > > I just noticed that Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-20190408.n.0.iso still > contains the dbus-daemon package even though we are using dbus-broker now. > > I've tried to rpm -e it and it for some reason it is required by > anaconda-core which seems weird. > > So should I file a bug against anaconda for this? I guess it is too late > to fix this for F30? Anaconda. Freeze is next week. -- Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
