Re: F34 update experience
rpm -qa | wc - reports 5939 On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:13 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > Dnia Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 04:08:38PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > napisał(a): > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:04:34AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > > > Updated F33 -> F34. Mostly went well, except there is one thing which > > > could be better. This is not new to F34 but has been there since the > > > dnf system-upgrade. > > > > > > Running on a pretty decent laptop (core i7, 8GB, SSD). The issue is > > > that the installation hangs a long time with no evidence of activity. > > > The hang begins at > > > dnf running transaction. It is disconcerting because it hangs for > > > about 20-30 minutes, and during that time the fan is not running, so > > > > 20-30 minutes seems unexpected… There is a phase where dnf is solving > > the deps, but it's usually much much shorter (*), and it's CPU-bound, > > so the fans should be on. I don't know what's going on in your case, > > but it sounds like some bug. > > In 2019 I did some measurements of F31→F32. First step of distribution > upgrade > took 16 minutes on a desktop computer. The results are at > https://enotty.pipebreaker.pl/posts/2019/12/time-needed-to-dist-upgrade-fedora/ > > > Do you have a huge number of packages? Lot's of modules? A very slow disk? > > `rpm -qa` returns 3109. No modules (I think). Storage is btrfs raid1 > over 2xHDD (5900 RPM) + bcache with 2x384GiB partitions. > > -- > Tomasz .. oo o. oo o. .o .o o. o. oo o. .. > Torcz.. .o .o .o .o oo oo .o .. .. oo oo > o.o.o. .o .. o. o. o. o. o. o. oo .. .. o. > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure -- Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: F34 update experience
Dnia Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 04:08:38PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napisał(a): > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:04:34AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > > Updated F33 -> F34. Mostly went well, except there is one thing which > > could be better. This is not new to F34 but has been there since the > > dnf system-upgrade. > > > > Running on a pretty decent laptop (core i7, 8GB, SSD). The issue is > > that the installation hangs a long time with no evidence of activity. > > The hang begins at > > dnf running transaction. It is disconcerting because it hangs for > > about 20-30 minutes, and during that time the fan is not running, so > > 20-30 minutes seems unexpected… There is a phase where dnf is solving > the deps, but it's usually much much shorter (*), and it's CPU-bound, > so the fans should be on. I don't know what's going on in your case, > but it sounds like some bug. In 2019 I did some measurements of F31→F32. First step of distribution upgrade took 16 minutes on a desktop computer. The results are at https://enotty.pipebreaker.pl/posts/2019/12/time-needed-to-dist-upgrade-fedora/ > Do you have a huge number of packages? Lot's of modules? A very slow disk? `rpm -qa` returns 3109. No modules (I think). Storage is btrfs raid1 over 2xHDD (5900 RPM) + bcache with 2x384GiB partitions. -- Tomasz .. oo o. oo o. .o .o o. o. oo o. .. Torcz.. .o .o .o .o oo oo .o .. .. oo oo o.o.o. .o .. o. o. o. o. o. o. oo .. .. o. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: F34 update experience
As I said, the machine has an ssd. But it has a very large number of packages. It's used for development so has lots of devel pkgs, and a large selection of the live. On Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 12:10 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:04:34AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > > Updated F33 -> F34. Mostly went well, except there is one thing which > > could be better. This is not new to F34 but has been there since the > > dnf system-upgrade. > > > > Running on a pretty decent laptop (core i7, 8GB, SSD). The issue is > > that the installation hangs a long time with no evidence of activity. > > The hang begins at > > dnf running transaction. It is disconcerting because it hangs for > > about 20-30 minutes, and during that time the fan is not running, so > > 20-30 minutes seems unexpected… There is a phase where dnf is solving > the deps, but it's usually much much shorter (*), and it's CPU-bound, > so the fans should be on. I don't know what's going on in your case, > but it sounds like some bug. > > Do you have a huge number of packages? Lot's of modules? A very slow disk? > > Zbyszek > > (*) I was upgrading a rpi3 recently, and I had to wait a few minutes... > But on a beefy machine, anything above a few dozen seconds is suspicious. > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: F34 update experience
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 10:04:34AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Updated F33 -> F34. Mostly went well, except there is one thing which > could be better. This is not new to F34 but has been there since the > dnf system-upgrade. > > Running on a pretty decent laptop (core i7, 8GB, SSD). The issue is > that the installation hangs a long time with no evidence of activity. > The hang begins at > dnf running transaction. It is disconcerting because it hangs for > about 20-30 minutes, and during that time the fan is not running, so 20-30 minutes seems unexpected… There is a phase where dnf is solving the deps, but it's usually much much shorter (*), and it's CPU-bound, so the fans should be on. I don't know what's going on in your case, but it sounds like some bug. Do you have a huge number of packages? Lot's of modules? A very slow disk? Zbyszek (*) I was upgrading a rpi3 recently, and I had to wait a few minutes... But on a beefy machine, anything above a few dozen seconds is suspicious. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
