Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 22.8.2017 v 11:22 James Hogarth napsal(a):
>
>
> On 27 June 2017 at 12:40, Vít Ondruch  > wrote:
>
>
>
> Dne 27.6.2017 v 10:41 Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) napsal(a):
> > On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 11:39 +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him?
> >>
> > Most people do hear from kanarip at undetermined intervals -- and my
> > @fedoraproject.org  address works just
> fine -- I have no messages from
> > you.
> >
> > I'm also on IRC, where people occasionally contact me, albeit it be
> > about phabricator/arcanist for QA.
> >
> >> For ruby maintainers please note that this has a significant impact
> >> on you, if you want to keep track of this, as he owns puppet,
> >> rubygems and ruby ...
> >>
> > To be honest, ruby and a plethora of related packages are
> maintained by
> > Vit Ondruch and members of the Ruby SIG, much more so then they are
> > maintained by "the owner".
>
> But honestly, I'd be glad if you reconsidered being POC of
> packages you
> don't maintain. It would help to avoid this annual "non-responsive
> kanarip" emails.
>
>
>
>
> Hmm okay it's been a couple of months now and the facter bug that
> lead me to this is still unaddressed...
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223593
>
> It remains at 2.4.3 in all branches whilst the current is 3.8.0
>
> Unless you respond with a specific reason that this is being ignored
> by August 31st I'll be updating this in the first week of September.
>
> I urge you to listen to your colleagues in the Ruby SIG and change the
> POC so that bug reports will go where they are going to be reviewed
> and so that key packages like this get updated.
>
> I'm genuinely surprised the very old facter hasn't hit the puppet or
> similar guys before now.
>
> James
>
>
>

I filled the FESCo ticket here:

https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1771


Vít
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Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

[James Hogarth]

On 27 June 2017 at 12:40, Vít Ondruch  wrote:

>
>
> Dne 27.6.2017 v 10:41 Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) napsal(a):
> > On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 11:39 +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him?
> >>
> > Most people do hear from kanarip at undetermined intervals -- and my
> > @fedoraproject.org address works just fine -- I have no messages from
> > you.
> >
> > I'm also on IRC, where people occasionally contact me, albeit it be
> > about phabricator/arcanist for QA.
> >
> >> For ruby maintainers please note that this has a significant impact
> >> on you, if you want to keep track of this, as he owns puppet,
> >> rubygems and ruby ...
> >>
> > To be honest, ruby and a plethora of related packages are maintained by
> > Vit Ondruch and members of the Ruby SIG, much more so then they are
> > maintained by "the owner".
>
> But honestly, I'd be glad if you reconsidered being POC of packages you
> don't maintain. It would help to avoid this annual "non-responsive
> kanarip" emails.
>
>
>
>
Hmm okay it's been a couple of months now and the facter bug that lead
me to this is still unaddressed...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223593

It remains at 2.4.3 in all branches whilst the current is 3.8.0

Unless you respond with a specific reason that this is being ignored by
August 31st I'll be updating this in the first week of September.

I urge you to listen to your colleagues in the Ruby SIG and change the POC
so that bug reports will go where they are going to be reviewed and so that
key packages like this get updated.

I'm genuinely surprised the very old facter hasn't hit the puppet or
similar guys before now.

James
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Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 27.6.2017 v 10:41 Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) napsal(a):
> On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 11:39 +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him?
>>
> Most people do hear from kanarip at undetermined intervals -- and my
> @fedoraproject.org address works just fine -- I have no messages from
> you.
>
> I'm also on IRC, where people occasionally contact me, albeit it be
> about phabricator/arcanist for QA.
>
>> For ruby maintainers please note that this has a significant impact
>> on you, if you want to keep track of this, as he owns puppet,
>> rubygems and ruby ...
>>
> To be honest, ruby and a plethora of related packages are maintained by
> Vit Ondruch and members of the Ruby SIG, much more so then they are
> maintained by "the owner".

But honestly, I'd be glad if you reconsidered being POC of packages you
don't maintain. It would help to avoid this annual "non-responsive
kanarip" emails.


Vít
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Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

[James Hogarth]

On 27 Jun 2017 9:42 am, "Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems)" <
vanmeeu...@kolabsys.com> wrote:

On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 11:39 +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him?
>

Most people do hear from kanarip at undetermined intervals -- and my
@fedoraproject.org address works just fine -- I have no messages from
you.

I'm also on IRC, where people occasionally contact me, albeit it be
about phabricator/arcanist for QA.


Ah great!

Might be worth checking your bugzilla address is valid since the needinfo
flag should have been emailing you for a while.

Are you going to be able to update factor soon?

Do you need assistance in getting it updated?
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Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

[Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems)]

On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 11:39 +0100, James Hogarth wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him?
> 

Most people do hear from kanarip at undetermined intervals -- and my
@fedoraproject.org address works just fine -- I have no messages from
you.

I'm also on IRC, where people occasionally contact me, albeit it be
about phabricator/arcanist for QA.

> For ruby maintainers please note that this has a significant impact
> on you, if you want to keep track of this, as he owns puppet,
> rubygems and ruby ...
> 

To be honest, ruby and a plethora of related packages are maintained by
Vit Ondruch and members of the Ruby SIG, much more so then they are
maintained by "the owner".

Kind regards,

Jeroen "kanarip" van Meeuwen

-- 
Senior Solutions Architect, Kolab Systems AG

e: vanmeeuwen at kolabsys.com
m: +41 79 951 9003
w: https://kolabsystems.com

pgp: 9342 BF08
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Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

[James Hogarth]

On 23 June 2017 at 12:33, Haïkel  wrote:
> 2017-06-23 12:39 GMT+02:00 James Hogarth :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him?
>>
>> I've been attempting to contact for this bug:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223593
>>
>> If there's no response in one week an issue will be filed with FESCo
>> following the nonrepsonsive maintainer policy to review the ownership
>> status of the packages.
>>
>> For ruby maintainers please note that this has a significant impact on
>> you, if you want to keep track of this, as he owns puppet, rubygems
>> and ruby ...
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/kanarip/
>>
>
> You're making it sound like Puppet is unmaintained which is not accurate.
> There are many comaintainers and provenpackagers working on it.
>

Indeed it has been updated, though facter which it depends on has not,
but the point being following our processes ... should there be deemed
a need for a mass orphaning of his packages then someone needs to pick
it up.

In addition whilst he maintains POC for it as the "owner" the default
assignee of bugs goes to him ...

If ruby and puppet maintainers didn't notice the orphaning as a
result... then they would be at risk of (temporary) retirement which
could cause confusion for a bit, rather than notifying and sorting it
all out at once :)
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Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

[Haïkel]

2017-06-23 12:39 GMT+02:00 James Hogarth :
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him?
>
> I've been attempting to contact for this bug:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223593
>
> If there's no response in one week an issue will be filed with FESCo
> following the nonrepsonsive maintainer policy to review the ownership
> status of the packages.
>
> For ruby maintainers please note that this has a significant impact on
> you, if you want to keep track of this, as he owns puppet, rubygems
> and ruby ...
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/kanarip/
>

You're making it sound like Puppet is unmaintained which is not accurate.
There are many comaintainers and provenpackagers working on it.

Regards,
H.

> Regards,
>
> James
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Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

[Vít Ondruch]

Dne 23.6.2017 v 12:39 James Hogarth napsal(a):
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him?
>
> I've been attempting to contact for this bug:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223593
>
> If there's no response in one week an issue will be filed with FESCo
> following the nonrepsonsive maintainer policy to review the ownership
> status of the packages.
>
> For ruby maintainers please note that this has a significant impact on
> you, if you want to keep track of this, as he owns puppet, rubygems
> and ruby ...

I'm not afraid he would not show up ... But I'd gladly pickup the ruby*
packages, since he does not maintain single of them.


Vít
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