Re: remove-retired-packages feedback
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 3:52 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > If you already upgraded to Fedora 36 - what is your feedback about > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/sysadmin/System_Utilities/#remove-retired-packages > > Did you run the command `remove-retired-packages`? Do you find it useful? > Comments and ideas are welcome either here or at: > I found it very useful, thank you. I'd like to see support for --help and also an execution mode that only prints the retired packages and doesn't ask for a sudo password. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages feedback
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 03:52:06PM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > If you already upgraded to Fedora 36 - what is your feedback about > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/sysadmin/System_Utilities/#remove-retired-packages > > Did you run the command `remove-retired-packages`? Do you find it useful? > Comments and ideas are welcome either here or at: > > https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade/issues > > Just be sure that you have latest version, i.e., remove-retired-packages-36.3. The tool worked fine as long as you answer "yes". But when I pressed "n" at the dnf prompt, the tool aborted. I think it should just continue instead. I had a bunch of packages, some with suffixes like .fc28 ;) The cycle of separate dnf runs was rather slow… Various folks comments that the separate questions are useful. But maybe it'd be possible to gather all the "yes"es and then call dnf once? Zbyszek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages feedback
On Thu, 26 May 2022 15:52:06 +0200 Miroslav Suchý wrote: > If you already upgraded to Fedora 36 - what is your feedback about > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/sysadmin/System_Utilities/#remove-retired-packages > > Did you run the command `remove-retired-packages`? Do you find it > useful? Comments and ideas are welcome either here or at: > > https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade/issues > > Just be sure that you have latest version, i.e., > remove-retired-packages-36.3. Thanks for creating this, a nice tool. I run rawhide, and it found no retired packages for f36 or f37. I think that would be expected by default. I agree that deciding on removal of each package individually is the right choice. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages feedback
On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 1:52 PM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > If you already upgraded to Fedora 36 - what is your feedback about > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/sysadmin/System_Utilities/#remove-retired-packages > > Did you run the command `remove-retired-packages`? Do you find it useful? > Comments and ideas are welcome either here or at: I used to (irregularly) manually go through my systems that have been upgraded through many versions to remove old packages. I never bothered to script it since I always thought I would be doing it so rarely since I believed the next upgrade I would install the system from scratch, and which I said to myself every time I performed that manual process. Having someone else do that scripting is welcome. Thanks. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages feedback
> On 26 May 2022, at 14:52, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > If you already upgraded to Fedora 36 - what is your feedback about > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/sysadmin/System_Utilities/#remove-retired-packages > > <https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/sysadmin/System_Utilities/#remove-retired-packages> > Did you run the command `remove-retired-packages`? Do you find it useful? > Comments and ideas are welcome either here or at: > > https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade/issues > <https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade/issues> > Just be sure that you have latest version, i.e., remove-retired-packages-36.3. > Useful command! It found a number of packages to remove. One was a package that I built to locally and installed from the command line, which it correctly identified as not in F36. I like that it prompts for each package on its own. This meant that I could remove the 3 that I do not need to keep but leave the one that I do need. Barry > Miroslav > > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages feedback
On 5/26/22 09:52, Miroslav Suchý wrote: If you already upgraded to Fedora 36 - what is your feedback about https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/sysadmin/System_Utilities/#remove-retired-packages Did you run the command `remove-retired-packages`? Do you find it useful? Comments and ideas are welcome either here or at: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade/issues Just be sure that you have latest version, i.e., remove-retired-packages-36.3. Well, thanks for posting this: I hadn't been aware of this tool at all :-) I just installed it and ran it, and it found just two Intel wireless firmware packages to remove. -- Kevin P. Fleming He/Him/His Principal Program Manager, RHEL Red Hat US/Eastern Time Zone ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
remove-retired-packages feedback
If you already upgraded to Fedora 36 - what is your feedback about https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/release-notes/sysadmin/System_Utilities/#remove-retired-packages Did you run the command `remove-retired-packages`? Do you find it useful? Comments and ideas are welcome either here or at: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade/issues Just be sure that you have latest version, i.e., remove-retired-packages-36.3. Miroslav ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages
Dne 24. 09. 21 v 10:50 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): Should it query for removed packages instead of components? It seem that when python-foo is retired, the script will attempt to remove python-foo instead of python3-foo (and python3-foo-docs etc.). This is fixed now. And build with the fix is in the Copr repository (link is in first mail in this thread). Miroslav ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages
Dne 24. 09. 21 v 13:55 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): I think w are over-engineering a workaround for something that could be part of system-upgrade. See my proposal in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/DQZOCSVPW4R4MZR2QYBQTO6ZTTU3RCKW/ that got 0 replies: Generally, I think we should instead strive to have configurable bahavior of dnf system-upgrade: SNIP Such solution obviously requires somebody to design it, code it, test it, support it and maintain it. I cannot speak for the software management team, but I guess they would have reasons not to do that (such as capacity reasons). DNF team has its priority list already packed. I think it make sanse to do this designing phase in separate tool. And only when it becomes obvious what we want and how to do it, only then merge it to core DNF code. Miroslav ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages
Dne 24. 09. 21 v 11:59 Vitaly Zaitsev via devel napsal(a): sudo dnf remove $(dnf -C list extras | cut -d ' ' -f -1 | tail -n +3) This will remove packages which are not in current repositories. On my workstation, this will suggests to remove webex, which I installed manually as an rpm. And I definitelly want to keep it. My current implementation is more conversative and remove only packages which were presented at some point in Fedora and now are retired. It is so conservative, that it even leave behind the packages from N-2 version. Miroslav ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages
On 24. 09. 21 12:31, Miroslav Suchý wrote: But still I'd rather have this as part of distribution - a package similar to fedora-obsolete-packages which would allow me to remove all retired packages simply by installing it. Oh there is already this proposal - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora-Retired-Packages And in the followup discussion this was rejected as a bad idea. Example: one of the retired packages is "nspr" but if you try to remove it, then half of your system is gone. :) Therefore it is a good idea to allow user to "cherry-pick" packages which should be kept on machine despite being retired. I think w are over-engineering a workaround for something that could be part of system-upgrade. See my proposal in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/DQZOCSVPW4R4MZR2QYBQTO6ZTTU3RCKW/ that got 0 replies: Generally, I think we should instead strive to have configurable bahavior of dnf system-upgrade: option 1) broken deps block upgrades, user go figure (status quo) option 2) broken deps of packages not part of distupgrade repository behave like --allowerasing option 3) all packages not part of distupgrade repository are removed on distro boundary upgrade option 4) --allowerasing (already possible) With alterations for 2/3: suboption a) this affects all packages suboption b) this affects only packages installed from "system repos" (Suboption b) can be achieved trough a .repo file configuration option.) Then we can have a discussion about the best default for Fedora. Such solution obviously requires somebody to design it, code it, test it, support it and maintain it. I cannot speak for the software management team, but I guess they would have reasons not to do that (such as capacity reasons). -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages
Dne 24. 09. 21 v 11:27 Marek Blaha napsal(a): It seem that when python-foo is retired, the script will attempt to remove python-foo instead of python3-foo (and python3-foo-docs etc.). Oh. Silly me. I will fix this. Another idea: The script currently needs fedora-packager (for the pkgname command). If you use --qf=%{NAME} in the repoquery, it won't. Yes, I've already created a small PR on those dependencies (another is using `dnf repoquery` instead of `repoquery` that drops depencendy on dnf-utils package). Thank you. But still I'd rather have this as part of distribution - a package similar to fedora-obsolete-packages which would allow me to remove all retired packages simply by installing it. Oh there is already this proposal - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora-Retired-Packages And in the followup discussion this was rejected as a bad idea. Example: one of the retired packages is "nspr" but if you try to remove it, then half of your system is gone. :) Therefore it is a good idea to allow user to "cherry-pick" packages which should be kept on machine despite being retired. Miroslav ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages
On 24/09/2021 06:44, Miroslav Suchý wrote: I created small script `remove-retired-packages`. You can try it using: Much more simple script: sudo dnf remove $(dnf -C list extras | cut -d ' ' -f -1 | tail -n +3) -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages
On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 10:58 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Should it query for removed packages instead of components? > > > > It seem that when python-foo is retired, the script will attempt to remove > > python-foo instead of python3-foo (and python3-foo-docs etc.). > > > > PS That's why I mentioned both options when answering your "how to find out > > what has been retired" question. The solution is to stop using the source > > repos > > (and src arch). > > Another idea: The script currently needs fedora-packager (for the pkgname > command). If you use --qf=%{NAME} in the repoquery, it won't. Yes, I've already created a small PR on those dependencies (another is using `dnf repoquery` instead of `repoquery` that drops depencendy on dnf-utils package). And I agree that the script should use packages instead of source packages - currently the results are really wild - a lot of packages is suggested for removal without being actually retired. But still I'd rather have this as part of distribution - a package similar to fedora-obsolete-packages which would allow me to remove all retired packages simply by installing it. Oh there is already this proposal - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora-Retired-Packages Marek Blaha ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages
On 24. 09. 21 10:50, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 24. 09. 21 6:44, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Hi. I created small script `remove-retired-packages`. You can try it using: $ sudo dnf copr enable msuchy/remove-retired-packages $ remove-retired-packages This script removes packages retired between Fedora N and Fedora N-1. You can run it with parameter: $ remove-retired-packages 30 And it will remove all packages retired between Fedora N and Fedora 30. It removes packages one-by-one. And you have the option to skip specific package. The source is here: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade/blob/main/remove-retired-packages Should it query for removed packages instead of components? It seem that when python-foo is retired, the script will attempt to remove python-foo instead of python3-foo (and python3-foo-docs etc.). PS That's why I mentioned both options when answering your "how to find out what has been retired" question. The solution is to stop using the source repos (and src arch). Another idea: The script currently needs fedora-packager (for the pkgname command). If you use --qf=%{NAME} in the repoquery, it won't. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: remove-retired-packages
On 24. 09. 21 6:44, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Hi. I created small script `remove-retired-packages`. You can try it using: $ sudo dnf copr enable msuchy/remove-retired-packages $ remove-retired-packages This script removes packages retired between Fedora N and Fedora N-1. You can run it with parameter: $ remove-retired-packages 30 And it will remove all packages retired between Fedora N and Fedora 30. It removes packages one-by-one. And you have the option to skip specific package. The source is here: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade/blob/main/remove-retired-packages Should it query for removed packages instead of components? It seem that when python-foo is retired, the script will attempt to remove python-foo instead of python3-foo (and python3-foo-docs etc.). PS That's why I mentioned both options when answering your "how to find out what has been retired" question. The solution is to stop using the source repos (and src arch). -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
remove-retired-packages
Hi. I created small script `remove-retired-packages`. You can try it using: $ sudo dnf copr enable msuchy/remove-retired-packages $ remove-retired-packages This script removes packages retired between Fedora N and Fedora N-1. You can run it with parameter: $ remove-retired-packages 30 And it will remove all packages retired between Fedora N and Fedora 30. It removes packages one-by-one. And you have the option to skip specific package. The source is here: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade/blob/main/remove-retired-packages I will welcome PR. Especially for the wording of the printed text. If I get positive feedback I turn this into F36 Change proposal. Miroslav ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Remove retired packages
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 01:13:09PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 23.1.2013 21:04, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): > >One possiblity here would be to create a special package that > >obsoletes all of the dropped packages from the last release (or > >two depending on how far back you want to yum update from). > > Actually, this is cool idea IMO. Why this package does not exist > yet? Rel-engs has to have list of blocked packages already, so it > should be easy to convert it into .spec. For the record, mageia does it, but not everybody is ok with that. So you could talk to them to see if they have some interesting feedback on the topic. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Remove retired packages
Dne 24.1.2013 14:18, Michael Schwendt napsal(a): On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:13:09 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 23.1.2013 21:04, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): One possiblity here would be to create a special package that obsoletes all of the dropped packages from the last release (or two depending on how far back you want to yum update from). Actually, this is cool idea IMO. Why this package does not exist yet? Rel-engs has to have list of blocked packages already, so it should be easy to convert it into .spec. It has been suggested, discussed and rejected many years ago. Here's one thread from 2007, https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/2007-March/msg00089.html and I remember it has been a topic before for early FESCO, but probably on IRC or the closed list. As one can see, we referred to it with the term "garbage collection" for packages. That's why I managed to find this thread, too. Thank you for pointing it out. Was not aware of it. Vít -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Remove retired packages
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 02:18:25PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Actually, this is cool idea IMO. Why this package does not exist yet? > > Rel-engs has to have list of blocked packages already, so it should be > > easy to convert it into .spec. > It has been suggested, discussed and rejected many years ago. Here's > one thread from 2007, > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/2007-March/msg00089.html Nice, because I was just going to say https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/2007-March/msg00107.html -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Remove retired packages
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 14:18:25 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:13:09 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: It has been suggested, discussed and rejected many years ago. Here's one thread from 2007, https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/2007-March/msg00089.html and I remember it has been a topic before for early FESCO, but probably on IRC or the closed list. As one can see, we referred to it with the term "garbage collection" for packages. That's why I managed to find this thread, too. The above thread was sort of neutral. I think the downsides of making it harder to keep some dropped packages is out weighed by making yum upgrades work smoother. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Remove retired packages
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:13:09 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 23.1.2013 21:04, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): > > One possiblity here would be to create a special package that > > obsoletes all of the dropped packages from the last release (or two > > depending on how far back you want to yum update from). > > Actually, this is cool idea IMO. Why this package does not exist yet? > Rel-engs has to have list of blocked packages already, so it should be > easy to convert it into .spec. It has been suggested, discussed and rejected many years ago. Here's one thread from 2007, https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/2007-March/msg00089.html and I remember it has been a topic before for early FESCO, but probably on IRC or the closed list. As one can see, we referred to it with the term "garbage collection" for packages. That's why I managed to find this thread, too. -- Fedora release 19 (Rawhide) - Linux 3.8.0-0.rc4.git1.1.fc19.x86_64 loadavg: 0.03 0.04 0.05 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Remove retired packages
Dne 23.1.2013 21:04, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): One possiblity here would be to create a special package that obsoletes all of the dropped packages from the last release (or two depending on how far back you want to yum update from). Actually, this is cool idea IMO. Why this package does not exist yet? Rel-engs has to have list of blocked packages already, so it should be easy to convert it into .spec. Vít -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel