Re: Signed 648 (ship.2 release candidate)

2007-12-04 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
  Hi, Kim,

 To start, I think it will be great to be on the olpc irc channel. We can also 
 start an olpc-support channel and there
 are some people working on a 'community-support' mailing list
 (please sign up if you like).

  I signed up the mailing list.  But the IRC is not what the Chat
activity on the XO uses, right?

 As we get more organized we'll post other ways that people can help
 to answer questions and provide support.

  Great!

 Thanks for asking!

  Well, I know I'm asking for trouble.  But at the same time I'm
curious to see.

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Re: Signed 648 (ship.2 release candidate)

2007-12-04 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
  Thank you, Morgan,

  I just imagined that having the ask expert key, (a la view
source key) would be handy and the familiar tool (i.e., the Chat) can
be used to ask the people with proper background...

  Just 0.03 USD.

-- Yoshiki

At Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:32:08 +0200,
Morgan Collett wrote:
 
 Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
I signed up the mailing list.  But the IRC is not what the Chat
  activity on the XO uses, right?
 
 No, Chat is based on Jabber. (It uses PS's chat rooms, not 1-1 IM, and
 the rooms for activities are obscurely named as they use the activity ID
 in the JID, so while it is possible to use a desktop jabber client to
 talk to a Chat instance, it's not easy...)
 
 There is an IRC Activity (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XoIRC) although I
 don't know whether it will be included by default.
 
 Since Telepathy has an IRC connection manager, we should investigate
 using that on the XO...
 
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olpc-update fails: When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents I don't think the r

2007-12-04 Thread ffm
 When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that
Could not download update contents file from:
  rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents
I don't think the requested build number exists.

updates.laptop.org is not a valid domain

Am I doing somthing wrong here?

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Re: olpc-update fails: When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents I don't think t

2007-12-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:29 -0500, ffm wrote:
  When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that
 Could not download update contents file from:
   rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents
 I don't think the requested build number exists. 
 
 updates.laptop.org is not a valid domain
 
 Am I doing somthing wrong here?

I get something different:

-bash-3.2# olpc-update -frvv joyride-1363
Downloading contents of build joyride-1363.
@ERROR: unknown module 'build-joyride-1363': [Errno 28] No space left on
device
rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
main.c(1383) [receiver=2.6.9]

Could not download update contents file from:
  rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1363/contents
I don't think the requested build number exists.


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Re: olpc-update fails: When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents I don't think t

2007-12-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:43 -0500, ffm wrote:
 
 On 12/4/07, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -bash-3.2# olpc-update -frvv joyride-1363
 Downloading contents of build joyride-1363.
 @ERROR: unknown module 'build-joyride-1363': [Errno 28] No
 space left on
 device
 rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5)
 at 
 main.c(1383) [receiver=2.6.9]
 
 Could not download update contents file from:
   rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1363/contents
 I don't think the requested build number exists.
 
 Yes, that is what I get as well. I just trucnutated part of the above.
 
 However, when you 'ping updates.laptop.org', you get no replies, so
 the adress is not the right one. 

Pinging works for me, could be a problem in your local network.

Try with: 'rsync rsync://updates.laptop.org'. That returns the available
builds?

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Re: olpc-update fails: When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents I don't think t

2007-12-04 Thread ffm
On 12/4/07, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pinging works for me, could be a problem in your local network.

 Try with: 'rsync rsync://updates.laptop.org'. That returns the available
 builds?


Oops, sorry. I forgot that my network settings here disabled pinging.

Turns out that they just have not copied the latest joyrides to the update
server.

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Re: clean installation of 643.

2007-12-04 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
 On Dec 4, 2007, at 9:25 , Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:

   
   Thank you, John,

 
 The autoinstaller is not working properly.  This is a known  
 problem, but
 given that the preferred method of upgrade is now over the  
 network, it
 has not been a priority.
   
...
 For me at least, the XO's wireless is still totally unreliable. So  
 I'd appreciate if the download-to-usb upgrade process was still  
 supported.
   
Having just updated my XO last night via USB I'd suggest that it's
useful too (olpc-upgrade wasn't even on my machine as far as I could
see, so it wasn't really an option).

BTW, work around for me was to do something like the following (keep in
mind, I am *not* sure what the implications of doing this are, this is
so the people who know can say egads, don't do that if I'm doing
something wrong):

Plug in the USB Key (MP3 player), hold X to get the firmware and then
the backup done.
When the machine starts showing the failed to boot unhappy-face,
interrupt and go to the OFW prompt (ok).
Manually boot from the USB key...

boot u:\boot\OLPC.FTH

which lets the upgrade continue (at least for me).  That suggests it's
probably just something to do with timing or similar issues that
prevented the initial attempt to read the file from USB.

HTH,
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Re: clean installation of 643.

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 5:02 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is preferred method really over the network?  I'm so ignorant about
  it, but what is the current theory of upgrading?  Does the current
  scheme let people download a 300MB file over the wireless?  (I haven't
  tried it by myself, but does T-Mobile connection stable enough to let
  them do it generally?)

olpc-update is incremental.  The total amount of transferred data is
rather small.

 For me at least, the XO's wireless is still totally unreliable. So
 I'd appreciate if the download-to-usb upgrade process was still
 supported.

Please update to the latest joyride or ship.2 build.  The new libertas
firmware fixes a large number of unreliable network bugs in our
testing.  If you still have problems, please file a trac bug, as we're
very interested in hunting these down.
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Re: olpc-update fails: When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents I don't think t

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 8:33 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:29 -0500, ffm wrote:
   When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that
[...]
  updates.laptop.org is not a valid domain


This seems like a problem with your local DNS server.

 I get something different:

 -bash-3.2# olpc-update -frvv joyride-1363
 Downloading contents of build joyride-1363.
 @ERROR: unknown module 'build-joyride-1363': [Errno 28] No space left on
 device

This problem I've fixed.  Note to OLPC sysadmins: we need disk space monitoring!
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Re: clean installation of 643.

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 8:23 AM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The USB process is supported, but the manual instructions do not.
 Use the Sugar-update.py script.

Just fair warning: this entire process is highly deprecated.  Even if
you can get it to work for you now, there's no guarantee that it will
continue to work.  olpc-update is the supported method from upgrading
from ship.2 or joyride builds; please file bugs if this doesn't work
for you!
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Re: clean installation of 643.

2007-12-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg

On Dec 4, 2007, at 16:10 , C. Scott Ananian wrote:

 On Dec 4, 2007 8:23 AM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The USB process is supported, but the manual instructions do not.
 Use the Sugar-update.py script.

 Just fair warning: this entire process is highly deprecated.  Even if
 you can get it to work for you now, there's no guarantee that it will
 continue to work.  olpc-update is the supported method from upgrading
 from ship.2 or joyride builds; please file bugs if this doesn't work
 for you!

Well, what process do you suggest to upgrade without a permanent  
broadband internet connection?

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Re: boot failed after updating MP to joyride-357 (activation?)

2007-12-04 Thread Alexander M. Latham
--- Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
Hi,

After rebooting, a sad face appeared, 'BOOT FAILED' was written at the
top left and under the laptop icon was a lock.

Booting the alternate image (pressing the 'O' button while powering on)
worked fine.

What did I wrong?

Thanks,

Tomeu
--- end of quote ---

I'm guessing you were updateing from either 623 or 649, and that while your 
laptop has been activated, it is still secure. Secure laptops (having the write 
protect set) will only boot into signed images (i.e. the likely signed version 
of 623 or 649 that you had) None of the joyride builds are signed. If you want 
to run them, you need to turn security off on your laptop. To do this, Apply 
for a Developer Key. If you open the browser on 649, click on 'other' and then 
'about your xo' At the very bottom of the page, there is a link to getting a 
developer key. Follow the instructions, and you should get a developer key in a 
day or two, depending on when cscott makes them. This will enable you to get to 
the ok prompt in open firmware, which means you can boot into any image you 
want.

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Re: olpc-update fails: When I attempt to update to ANY joyride, I get an error that Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-joyride-1364/contents I don't think t

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 8:52 AM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 12/4/07, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Pinging works for me, could be a problem in your local network.
 
  Try with: 'rsync rsync://updates.laptop.org'. That returns the available
  builds?

 Oops, sorry. I forgot that my network settings here disabled pinging.

 Turns out that they just have not copied the latest joyrides to the update
 server.

As I've posted previously, new builds are installed on-demand to the
update server, and the update server ran out of disk space last night.
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Re: Signed 648 (ship.2 release candidate)

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 8:49 AM, ffm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 12/4/07, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There is an IRC Activity (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XoIRC) although I
  don't know whether it will be included by default.
 

 Sadly, while testing the latest joyride, I found that XoIRC does not work.

Please report this to the author of the activity.
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boot failed after updating MP to joyride-357 (activation?)

2007-12-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi,

After rebooting, a sad face appeared, 'BOOT FAILED' was written at the
top left and under the laptop icon was a lock.

Booting the alternate image (pressing the 'O' button while powering on)
worked fine.

What did I wrong?

Thanks,

Tomeu

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Re: clean installation of 643.

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 10:21 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, what process do you suggest to upgrade without a permanent
 broadband internet connection?

olpc-update via USB: trac #3881.  Not fully implemented yet, which is
the only reason why the autoreinstallation script is not completely
deprecated.
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Re: boot failed after updating MP to joyride-357 (activation?)

2007-12-04 Thread Kim Quirk
One extra piece of info: Once you get a developers key, you should 'disable
security' from the OK prompt.

Then you can upgrade to any image.

Here is a link to the wiki page with the process:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guide_to_Secure_Install


Kim


On 04 Dec 2007 10:36:21 -0500, Alexander M. Latham 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 Hi,

 After rebooting, a sad face appeared, 'BOOT FAILED' was written at the
 top left and under the laptop icon was a lock.

 Booting the alternate image (pressing the 'O' button while powering on)
 worked fine.

 What did I wrong?

 Thanks,

 Tomeu
 --- end of quote ---

 I'm guessing you were updateing from either 623 or 649, and that while
 your laptop has been activated, it is still secure. Secure laptops (having
 the write protect set) will only boot into signed images (i.e. the likely
 signed version of 623 or 649 that you had) None of the joyride builds are
 signed. If you want to run them, you need to turn security off on your
 laptop. To do this, Apply for a Developer Key. If you open the browser on
 649, click on 'other' and then 'about your xo' At the very bottom of the
 page, there is a link to getting a developer key. Follow the instructions,
 and you should get a developer key in a day or two, depending on when cscott
 makes them. This will enable you to get to the ok prompt in open firmware,
 which means you can boot into any image you want.

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Re: boot failed after updating MP to joyride-357 (activation?)

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 11:20 AM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One extra piece of info: Once you get a developers key, you should 'disable
 security' from the OK prompt.

No, I don't think I would recommend that in all cases.  Having the
developer key in /security is entirely equivalent, and lets you easily
turn on and off 'insecure boot' (by moving or renaming the file) while
you are developing, which is probably best if you are just a casual
developer and want to be able to return to a stable build and give the
machine to a kid to play with.

With insecure boot, you don't get automatic firmware updates with
build images, and you lose pretty boot.  You can re-enable secure boot
for a single boot only by turning on power with the 'X' key held down.

Anyway, one should decide whether to permanently disable security on a
case-by-case basis; I wouldn't make a blanket recommendation.
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Project Hosting Request

2007-12-04 Thread ffm
1. Project name : Graphics API for the Students of Python (GASP)
2. Existing website, if any : https://launchpad.net/gasp
3. One-line description : GASP provides a simple, procedural
graphics API for beginning students using Python.


4. Longer description   :GASP is built on top of pygame, and is
designed to lead students into full use of python
:and object oriented programming.It is
designed to imitate LiveWires, a Tk python GUI
:API.

5. URLs of similar projects : Pygame http://pygame.org
: LiveWires http://www.livewires.org.uk/python

6. Committer list
  N/A

7. Preferred development model

   N/A

8. Set up a project mailing list:

   [ ] Yes, named after our project name
   [ ] Yes, named __
   [X] No

   When your project is just getting off the ground, we suggest you eschew
   a separate mailing list and instead keep discussion about your project
on the main OLPC development list. This will give you more input and
   potentially attract more developers to your project; when the volume of
   messages related to your project reaches some critical mass, we can
   trivially create a separate mailing list for you.

   If you need multiple lists, let us know. We discourage having many
   mailing lists for smaller projects, as this tends to
   stunt the growth of your project community. You can always add more lists
   later.

9. Commit notifications

   [ ] Notification of commits to the main tree should be e-mailed to the list
   we chose to create above
   [ ] A separate mailing list, projectname-git, should be created for commit
   notifications
   [X] No commit notifications, please

10. Shell accounts
N/A

11. Translation
[ ] Set up the laptop.org Pootle server to allow translation
commits to be made

12. Notes/comments:
Just website hosting, please. Launchpad will handle repos and translations.
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Re: New joyride build 1363

2007-12-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Dec 4, 2007, at 18:21 , C. Scott Ananian wrote:

 On Dec 4, 2007 4:30 AM, Build Announcer Script  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- olpc-library-core.noarch 1-10 ---
  * Fixing intro to the XO, with Walter's new intro, and links.
  * Smaller for jg; will rebuild to larger in a few days.

 The incremental update mechanism makes ping-ponging between small and
 large libraries really painful.  All the library files get deleted,
 and then you have to download them all again.  Once we've put a large
 library in a build, we should keep it there.

Btw - why are there so many builds without package changes? Do they  
have any significance? See

http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html

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Re: boot failed after updating MP to joyride-357 (activation?)

2007-12-04 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 Hi,

 After rebooting, a sad face appeared, 'BOOT FAILED' was written at the
 top left and under the laptop icon was a lock.

 Booting the alternate image (pressing the 'O' button while powering on)
 worked fine.

 What did I wrong?
   
Whatever it was, I had the same symptoms (on my
never-as-far-as-I-know-locked B4).  I worked around it by starting the
OFW prompt and manually telling the machine to boot u:\boot\OLPC.FTH
which then completed the upgrade process.  Your mileage may vary.

HTH,
Mike

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New joyride build 1366

2007-12-04 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1366/

+Journal-76.xo
-Journal-78.xo
+NewsReader-21.xo
-NewsReader-23.xo
+Read-34.xo
-Read-35.xo
+Write-48.xo
-Write-54.xo
-aspell-en.i386 50:6.0-7.fc7
-aspell.i386 12:0.60.5-3.fc7
-enchant.i386 1:1.3.0-1.fc6
-fribidi.i386 0:0.10.7-6.fc7
-libabiword.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071127-1
-libabiword-plugins.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071127-1
-pyabiword.i386 0:0.6.0.svn20071127-1
-wv.i386 0:1.2.4-1.fc7

--- Journal-76 ---
* recreate library index when the ~/.library_pages is missing / part of
#2856 (erikos)

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Software status meeting on IRC (today, 21:00 EST Boston)

2007-12-04 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

We'll be having the regular software meeting on IRC (irc.freenode.net
#olpc-meeting) tonight at 9pm EST.  See you there!

Date/time:
   
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=12day=04year=2007hour=21min=0sec=0p1=43

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Draft Schedule for Update.1.

2007-12-04 Thread Jim Gettys
The need for Ship.2 interrupted buttoning down Update.1.  So here's a
revamped schedule for comment.  Note if we have blockers open for the
release we will not release until either we've fixed the blockers (or
revisit the functionality).

The build Tzar for Update.1 will be Dennis Gilmore.

Note that we are working increasingly hard on keeping schedule and
contents of releases, major fixes and goals of releases in the roadmap
in trac, found at: http://dev.laptop.org/roadmap. You should refer to
that whenever you have questions or issues.

Schedule (currently tentative, not yet ratified). These dates need
coordination with Quanta and subject to change.: 

  * String Freeze (for translations): 12/8/07
  * Code Freeze: 12/15/07
  * Refresh packages to pick up translations 12/19/07
  * First Candidate Release (RC1): 12/21/07
  * Second Candidate Release (RC2): 1/4/08
  * Release of Update.1: 1/11/08
  * Quanta manufacturing start: 1/21/08

Since previous releases, we now have an active and growing community of
translators working hard. If you look at the projects in
https://dev.laptop.org/translate/ you will see serious work to translate
the UI using Pootle thanks to the hard work of Sayamindu Dasgupta and
Xavier Alvarez with help from Alfonso de la Guarda. For translations to
be coordinated we need to add some dates to the schedule; for UI
elements to be translated, and a chance to update activities to pull in
translations after string freeze.  Note that activity developers should
only be fixing key bugs from code freeze until when we'd like updated
activities with translations.

Comments?  Issues? Concerns?
Thanks for all your help!
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Re: alternate h/w for devel use?

2007-12-04 Thread imm
 On 3 Dec 2007, at 15:58, Jordan Crouse wrote:
 On 02/12/07 13:58 +1100, James Cameron wrote:
 On 02/12/2007, at 1:28 AM, imm wrote:
 I just wondered if anyone who knows the xo hardware well, would be
 able to express an opinion as to whether this might be an  
 option, for
 those of us outside the G1G1 geographical area, to do a little
 software development of our own, without eating in to the supply of
 developer machines?

 The differences between the linutop and the xo are considerable,
 especially in relation to the display controller (DCON), but also in
 terms of power management, keyboard, e-book position sensing, and so
 on.  The memory is likely to be different type, therefore bandwidth.
 There is no internal jffs2 NAND flash.

 To be fair, he didn't actually ask for any of those things.  The  
 original
 poster was more interested in software performance then anything -  
 and
 in that regard, the Linutop is very similar to the MP hardware (it  
 even
 uses LinuxBIOS, which isn't OFW, granted, but its not propriatary  
 BIOS
 evilness either).

 I think that would be great to have some version of the Sugar code  
 that
 runs on other Geode platforms that are easier to get worldwide.   
 Sure,
 you're not going to get the DCON or other custom XO hardware, but you
 will get pretty close - at least close enough to do reasonable work.

 Thanks for the input, guys.

 As Jordan identified, I was pitching more towards getting some  
 hardware that has performance in the same ballpark as the XO (I  
 realise it couldn't be an XO).
 I was trying to get a feel for how the code runs. I suspect the  
 machines I have are too powerful to be realistic when running sugar- 
 jhbuild, and maybe not powerful enough when running under emulation...
 Do we think the graphics performance of these boxes going to be  
 similar to the XO, for example, that sort of thing?

 Cheers,
 -- 
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Re: Signed 648 (ship.2 release candidate)

2007-12-04 Thread Michael Burns
I don't have a recent build handy to check, so my information might be
rusty...

On Dec 4, 2007 1:03 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thank you, Morgan,

  I just imagined that having the ask expert key, (a la view
 source key) would be handy and the familiar tool (i.e., the Chat) can
 be used to ask the people with proper background...


Agreed.

There were mumblings about including a minimalist IRC client that could
automatically connect to freenode/OLPC channels. The developer console was
the original home. Our thinking was that, to really involved XO users with
true development, access to the tools and communication mediums that the
current developers use is important.

Maybe it should be tied to getting a developer key. When you get approved
for a developer key, information about how to use it (and what you can use
it for), along with common tools (vi, irc, etc) that could prove useful.

Come to think of it, a hey, you know have permissions to install custom
kernels, would you like a gcc build environment installed? [YES/no] might
be a sub-optimal idea given our target audience. :)

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Re: New joyride build 1366

2007-12-04 Thread Owen Williams
Why did news reader and those other activities get rolled back to older
versions?  


owen


On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 13:30 -0500, Build Announcer Script wrote:
 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1366/
 
 +Journal-76.xo
 -Journal-78.xo
 +NewsReader-21.xo
 -NewsReader-23.xo
 +Read-34.xo
 -Read-35.xo
 +Write-48.xo
 -Write-54.xo
 -aspell-en.i386 50:6.0-7.fc7
 -aspell.i386 12:0.60.5-3.fc7
 -enchant.i386 1:1.3.0-1.fc6
 -fribidi.i386 0:0.10.7-6.fc7
 -libabiword.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071127-1
 -libabiword-plugins.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071127-1
 -pyabiword.i386 0:0.6.0.svn20071127-1
 -wv.i386 0:1.2.4-1.fc7
 
 --- Journal-76 ---
 * recreate library index when the ~/.library_pages is missing / part of
 #2856 (erikos)
 
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joyride, ship.1 etc.

2007-12-04 Thread Sameer Verma
Can someone point me to a document that explains what the flow is with
respect to these branches (these are branches I presume) and what will
be shipped on the G1G1 machines, Ceibal project, etc.?

Thanks,
Sameer

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New joyride build 1367

2007-12-04 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1367/

-Journal-76.xo
+Journal-78.xo
-NewsReader-21.xo
+NewsReader-23.xo
-Read-34.xo
+Read-35.xo
-Write-48.xo
+Write-54.xo
+aspell-en.i386 50:6.0-7.fc7
+aspell.i386 12:0.60.5-3.fc7
+enchant.i386 1:1.3.0-1.fc6
+fribidi.i386 0:0.10.7-6.fc7
+libabiword.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071127-1
+libabiword-plugins.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071127-1
-libertas-usb8388-firmware.noarch 2:5.110.20.p4-1.olpc2
+libertas-usb8388-firmware.noarch 2:5.110.20.p42-1.olpc2
+pyabiword.i386 0:0.6.0.svn20071127-1
+wv.i386 0:1.2.4-1.fc7

--- libabiword.i386 2.6.0.svn20071127-1 ---
  * Fix 4871: the write save as entries of the journal come up uncolored (rwh)
  * Fix 4861: Incremental find cycles through words while typing (uwog)

--- libabiword-plugins.i386 2.6.0.svn20071127-1 ---
  * Fix 4871: the write save as entries of the journal come up uncolored (rwh)
  * Fix 4861: Incremental find cycles through words while typing (uwog)

--- pyabiword.i386 0.6.0.svn20071127-1 ---
  * Fix 4871: the write save as entries of the journal come up uncolored (rwh)
  * Fix 4861: Incremental find cycles through words while typing (uwog)

--- Journal-78 ---
* #5106: Implement an object chooser callable through dbus. (tomeu)

--- NewsReader-23 ---
* Activity conforms to design specifications
* Session management works
* Activity sharing works

--- Read-35 ---
* #4454: Added a broad try..except Exception: to write_file() to allow
read to close if write_file has an error. (pascals)

--- Write-54 ---
  * Fix 4871: the write save as entries of the journal come up uncolored (rwh)
  * Fix 4861: Incremental find cycles through words while typing (uwog)

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Intel XO

2007-12-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
What is the Intel XO?

- Bert -


On Dec 4, 2007, at 19:04 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote:

 #5314: Intel XO should provide safe firmware update.
 - 
 +--
  Reporter:  cscott   |   Owner:  wad
  Type:  defect   |  Status:  new
  Priority:  normal   |   Milestone:  Gen2
 Component:  ofw - open firmware  | Version:
  Keywords:   |Verified:  0
 - 
 +--
  In discussions with Richard, it seems like using an SPI flash with  
 a 4k
  erase block might be sufficient to allow us to do a safe firmware  
 update.

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Re: New joyride build 1366

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 3:54 PM, Owen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why did news reader and those other activities get rolled back to older
 versions?

It appears that tomeu's public_rpms didn't get collected properly
(accounting for Journal and Write), nor did ywwg's (NewsReader) or
some other folks.  This was probably during the time period when dev
went down this afternoon. =(
 --scott

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Re: Intel XO

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 4:36 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the Intel XO?

It is a tentative version of the XO hardware using an Intel chipset.
Intel has engineers looking at this possibility; this was a result of
the OLPC/Intel agreement earlier this year.  Timeframes, actual
production, cost, etc are still in flux/unknown.  The trac bug is
there so that we remember, if we have the opportunity to tweak
hardware, to add the features that would make firmware upgrade safer.
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Re: joyride, ship.1 etc.

2007-12-04 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Sameer,

Can someone point me to a document that explains what the flow is
with respect to these branches (these are branches I presume) and
what will be shipped on the G1G1 machines, Ceibal project, etc.?

I'm not sure whether this is in a wiki page; perhaps someone could start
one.  Here's a summary:

* Ship.1 is build623, and was preloaded on all MP machines for a while.
  It isn't preloaded on new machines, and any machine with it installed
  should since have been updated to Ship.2.  It was released around 1st
  Nov.  It will mostly not be seen by the outside world at all.

* Ship.2 is build649, and will be the build received by G1G1 recipients,
  as well as the Uruguay Ceibal users.  (Actually, Uruguay is using a
  slightly custom build, but it's based on Ship.2.)  It was released
  around 1st Dec.

* Update.1 is not released, and is being worked on in the joyride
  branch.  After code freeze, scheduled for around 2007-12-15, a copy
  of the joyride branch will be made and named update.1, and any
  development that isn't targeting Update.1 can continue in joyride.
  Update.1 release is scheduled for mid January, as seen on the roadmap:

 http://dev.laptop.org/roadmap

  The roadmap also contains the feature goals for Update.1.  Machines
  can be automatically upgraded (preserving user data) from Ship.2 to
  Update.1 after release.

* Joyride can be thought of as synonymous with trunk or HEAD or
  unstable, much like the Debian/unstable distribution.

I'm not one of the build masters -- perhaps they could follow up and
correct me if I've misunderstood something.

Hope that helps,

- Chris.
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Fake mesh over IP.

2007-12-04 Thread Ian Stirling
Is there any fake mesh-over-ip protocol?
Basically if - as with most of the G1G1 laptops - you're out of range of 
any other laptops, is there any way to fake a mesh?

For example, you enter a (perhaps fake) lat/lon, and a you get a virtual 
radio that has a 100Km range.
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Re: Fake mesh over IP.

2007-12-04 Thread Miguel Álvarez
Hi Ian,

I think that you're rather interested on the presence service and activity
sharing. That can be done independently of the mesh range, as it relies (in
the infrastructure mode) on jabber servers. I guess there will be designated
server(s) for G1G1 recipients, but that can be manually configured if
necessary.

Cheers,

Miguel

On Dec 4, 2007 11:07 PM, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any fake mesh-over-ip protocol?
 Basically if - as with most of the G1G1 laptops - you're out of range of
 any other laptops, is there any way to fake a mesh?

 For example, you enter a (perhaps fake) lat/lon, and a you get a virtual
 radio that has a 100Km range.
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New joyride build 1368

2007-12-04 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1368/

-kernel.i586 0:2.6.22-20071126.1.olpc.3cf0ba3149aefdf
+kernel.i586 0:2.6.22-20071204.2.olpc.9679b65c8c5ed6e

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Re: joyride, ship.1 etc.

2007-12-04 Thread Jim Gettys
Ship.1 == build 623, on initial MP systems. Now being upgraded in the
field.

Ship.2 == build 649, released last Friday, now in production from Quanta
as of this Monday.
 Will be on all G1G1 machines.

Update.1 == build TBD, now being put together.  Should be released
sometime in January.
   - Jim



On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 13:07 -0800, Sameer Verma wrote:
 Can someone point me to a document that explains what the flow is with
 respect to these branches (these are branches I presume) and what will
 be shipped on the G1G1 machines, Ceibal project, etc.?
 
 Thanks,
 Sameer
 
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Official signed ship.2 candidate 650

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Official signed images for build 650 are now at:
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/650/jffs2/
You can also use:
olpc-update 650
but be aware that build 650 fixes an open firmware bug which could
cause your machine to fail to boot after you upgrade.  That said,
*please try using olpc-update*, because we need to get an idea of how
common the failures are (we have not found them to be very common).
If your boot fails after you olpc-update, do an alt boot by pressing
O when you power-on to restore to your previous OS version and
manually flash the firmware to q2d06, which should fix the problem.

The firmware will not automatically update from the build unless you
are using secure boot; if you have security disabled on your machine,
boot with 'X' held down to do a one-time-only secure boot, which
should automatically reflash the firmware for you.  You must have a
battery *and* AC power present before OFW will attempt to reflash the
firmware.

Since this is an emergency release for ship.2, with very little lead
time, please help us test 650.  It should be identical to build 649
except for the firmware (and I have manually gone through a
file-by-file diff to check this) but bugs can creep in.
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