Re: Conway's Life activity

2007-12-24 Thread Ross Andrews
>  The logic to count the neighboring on-cells is end-user accessible,
> and it is packaged as well so that the user can even change that.
> (After all, I just wrote it while I was waiting for an appointment at
> a clinic.  That means anybody can just do it if you have an XO.)
>
>  You could write a script so that the you "paint" the picture of an
> initial state and set it.

Hmm, let me think back... I don't have a Windows machine any more, and  
I haven't played with Autocell since I was twelve, but I think it  
worked roughly like this:

A ruleset in Autocell was composed of multiple rules, each of which  
had a starting cell color, a set of neighbors, and an ending cell  
color. So Conway's life would be something like this:

Start: white
Neighbors: 3 black, 5 white
End: black

Start: black
Neighbors: 4 black, 4 any
End: white

Start: black
Neighbors: 7 white, 1 any
End: white

Anything that didn't match one of those rules would stay unchanged for  
the next generation, so a black with 3 black and 5 white neighbors  
would stay black.

Autocell supported multiple cell colors (up to 256 I think), but I'd  
like my activity to stay at two colors both for simplicity of rules  
and so it works better if the screen is monochrome.
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Re: Is DRM on every G1G1 laptop?

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 24, 2007 8:11 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The procedure describes using 'wget' to fetch the key.  Perhaps due
> to my physical connection setup (wired + proxy), the 'wget' would
> time out and say "Resolving activation.laptop.org ... failed".
> [Note: for me, wget on the laptop *does* work when fetching from
> other olpc servers.  And Browse on the laptop *did* fetch (from
> activation.laptop.org) the "status" page associated with my key.]

If you could open a trac ticket and provide more information here, it
would be helpful.   Perhaps use the '-d' option to wget, for example,
and include the contents of your /etc/resolv.conf, etc.
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Re: Conway's Life activity

2007-12-24 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
  Hi, Ross,

> I think it would be neat to have a dedicated activity for it, with the  
> ability to save interesting patterns in the journal, and so forth.

  I'm not sure if a dedicated activity is neater or not (I know people
who would say "yes"), but it is surely possible with the Etoys version
to save interesting patterns in the Journal.  Different rules,
different ways to make the initial state different colors, more
variables, more states, etc., etc., can be all packaged in a Journal
entry.

  The logic to count the neighboring on-cells is end-user accessible,
and it is packaged as well so that the user can even change that.
(After all, I just wrote it while I was waiting for an appointment at
a clinic.  That means anybody can just do it if you have an XO.)

  You could write a script so that the you "paint" the picture of an
initial state and set it.

> I was planning to put in a rule-editing system not unlike Autocell:
> http://www.topshareware.com/Cellular-Automata-download-9567.htm
> (I couldn't find any pages about it, just the download link. Fairly  
> old Windows program.)

  Could you elaborate the rule-editing system of Autocell at any
chance (over the holidays^^;)?  I thought a rule-editting system in
which you can specify the before and after state visually is nice, and
also the concise description people use would be also nice for
different audience.  But of course there will be much more different
ways, I'm sure.

  Thank you!

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Re: Is DRM on every G1G1 laptop?

2007-12-24 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_Key describes the procedure for
> obtaining a developer key.  We tried to make that procedure as easy as
> possible within the constraints of our available manpower and time (i.e.
> we have a lot of other things that need attention too).  Note that there
> is no discretionary component to this procedure - ask and you shall receive.

I now have my developer key - thank you very much.
But there were hurdles:

The procedure describes using 'wget' to fetch the key.  Perhaps due 
to my physical connection setup (wired + proxy), the 'wget' would 
time out and say "Resolving activation.laptop.org ... failed". 
[Note: for me, wget on the laptop *does* work when fetching from 
other olpc servers.  And Browse on the laptop *did* fetch (from 
activation.laptop.org) the "status" page associated with my key.]

I ended up using a browser on a regular Linux system to fetch the 
key.  [And I had to __twice__ override the browser, which kept 
telling me it did not trust the activation.laptop certificate.] 
Then I had to provide a way to transfer the key from the Linux 
system to the laptop (to match how the other systems on my local LAN 
communicate, I installed vsftpd on the laptop).  A lot of effort.

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Sugar on Slackware 12.0

2007-12-24 Thread Cesare Marilungo
I just wanted to report that I've sucessfully got sugar built and 
running on Slackware 12.

Of course there are a lot of dependencies to install (gstreamer and 
friends, some gnome libs) and some library to update if you start from a 
fresh Slackware installation. But sugar is not so hard to build in 
distros other than Fedora and Ubuntu, really.

I did:

sugar-jhbuild update
sugar-jhbuild built

and then I compiled and installed the missing libraries and the python 
modules.

The most tricky part was Xephyr, which was missing. Since I didn't want 
to mess with my xorg installation I just took xorg-server-1.3.0.0 source 
(which is the version that ships with Slackware 12) and compiled it with:

./configure --prefix=/usr/local/xserver-xephyr 
--exec-prefix=/usr/local/xserver-xephyr --enable-kdrive --enable-xephyr 
&& make && make install

Then I made a symbolic link to xephyr in /usr/local/bin.

Should I add this infos on the wiki?

Cheers,

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Re: Conway's Life activity

2007-12-24 Thread Ross Andrews
I think it would be neat to have a dedicated activity for it, with the  
ability to save interesting patterns in the journal, and so forth.

I was planning to put in a rule-editing system not unlike Autocell:
http://www.topshareware.com/Cellular-Automata-download-9567.htm
(I couldn't find any pages about it, just the download link. Fairly  
old Windows program.)

On Dec 24, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:

>  That reminds me of a version in Etoys.
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/~yoshiki/etoys/LifeGame.006.pr
>
> The nice thing about Etoys version is that you can edit the rule
> dynamically by drag-and-drop while the simulation is running.  You can
> just try "what-if" simualtions whenever you like.
>
>  On some installations, it may run very slowly; a plugin for
> accerating the particle system is missing in the VM.  Try it after we
> resolve the issue.
>
>  One can think to write a graphical DSL for specifying CA rules in
> Etoys.  That would be a fun project for hackers...
>
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Re: Conway's Life activity

2007-12-24 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
  That reminds me of a version in Etoys.

http://dev.laptop.org/~yoshiki/etoys/LifeGame.006.pr

The nice thing about Etoys version is that you can edit the rule
dynamically by drag-and-drop while the simulation is running.  You can
just try "what-if" simualtions whenever you like.

  On some installations, it may run very slowly; a plugin for
accerating the particle system is missing in the VM.  Try it after we
resolve the issue.

  One can think to write a graphical DSL for specifying CA rules in
Etoys.  That would be a fun project for hackers...

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Re: Is DRM on every G1G1 laptop?

2007-12-24 Thread Mitch Bradley
John Gilmore wrote:
> Please note that there are users like me who have the exact problem
> described by http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5558.  I have been
> totally __unable__ to gain access to the Open Firmware "ok" prompt.
>   
>   
 Please read the top section of
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Autoreinstallation_image:

   This page is for software developers only. It does not apply to Give
   One Get One laptops unless you first get a developer key; until then,
   please use the olpc-update or activated upgrade method.
 
>
> I thought "security" (i.e. security-against-the-owner-himself,
> i.e. DRM) was supposed to be disabled on G1G1 laptops.  See for
> example the statement at the bottom of the GPL compliance discussion
> in:
>
>   http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4286#comment:8
>
>   "Because the anti-theft system will not be deployed for the G1G1
>   laptops, OLPC should feel free to pursue with source distribution
>   under GPLv3 6(b) (e.g., with a written [offer] for source code) as
>   planned."
>
> DRM was supposed to only be enabled on shipments to countries that
> specifically require anti-theft protection due to corrupt supply
> chains.  Did somebody screw up and put DRM onto every G1G1 laptop?
>
>   John
>   

G1G1 laptops are shipped with the "ak" tag present in the manufacturing 
data, so the "activation" step of the antitheft system is unnecessary.  
They are, however, shipped with the security/firmware-write- protection 
feature enabled, which implies that you need a developer key to get 
unfettered access to the hardware.

We have expedited the collection of serial number information for G1G1 
machines from the factory, so we can generate developer keys for them 
more quickly.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_Key describes the procedure for 
obtaining a developer key.  We tried to make that procedure as easy as 
possible within the constraints of our available manpower and time (i.e. 
we have a lot of other things that need attention too).  Note that there 
is no discretionary component to this procedure - ask and you shall receive.

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Re: XO touchpad

2007-12-24 Thread Ross Andrews
That's all I'm after, really. Making an application that uses it  
before the stable branch has drivers for it would be somewhat pointless.

On Dec 24, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote:

> Ross Andrews wrote:
>> I got my laptop through G1G1 last week, and I've been trying to  
>> play  with all the neat facets of the hardware, but I'm unable to  
>> get the  other mode of the touchpad (the stylus mode) to do  
>> anything. Is there  a particular activity that uses it? Is there  
>> some way I can tell  Pygame to read it, so I can play with it that  
>> way? I figured that  Paint would use it, but it doesn't seem to.
>>
>
> One way to exercise the stylus mode is via the firmware selftests.   
> Turn on via the power button, then immediately press and hold the  
> big round directional button in the left direction.
>
> That will start a sequence of hardware diagnostics.  Eventually it  
> will get to the touchpad test.  That test displays dots  
> corresponding to samples received from the touchpad - blue dots for  
> fingertip mode and yellow for stylus mode.  Fingernail pressure  
> works as a stylus surrogate.
>
> This selftest feature is of course useless for creating new  
> applications that use the device, but it can demonstrate that the  
> hardware is functional.
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Re: Playing with IDEs

2007-12-24 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
On Dec 24, 2007 4:57 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bernie has the details to get a 1200x900 screen in the emulator on the
> wiki somewhere (right?);

All I could find was a "qemu cant do this" on the emulation page and a
very confusing discussion of multiple different drives on the drivers
page.

I'm willing to bet my VMWare is capable of this if someone could just
point me at the right settings to put into my xorg.conf




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Re: suspend/resume support?

2007-12-24 Thread Jake B
Read the blog. Given what you're trying to do with suspend/resume, I
can understand why it might be challenging.
I got my developer key today and am updating to the latest joyride.
I'll post if suspend/resume works for me.

Jake

On Dec 24, 2007 1:56 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you read my blog (http://www.gettysfamily.org/wordpress/ you'll get a
> taste for what was involved in building/debugging a machine to
> suspend/resume *really* well.  I have one more installment to write, but
> the first two installments that will give you a taste of what we went
> through.
>
> We ran out of time to get the user level policy done in time; the
> testing of the hardware became totally consuming for the team.  We could
> always fix the software later: but you don't get to fix the hardware.
>
> Fixed in update.1 (or joyride, today).
>  - -Jim
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 14:27 -0500, Jake B wrote:
> > Could I get more info on /sys/power/state please?
> >
> > For a project where intelligent power consumption is such a large
> > concern, I would expect this to be solid. Could anyone  weigh in on
> > the status of suspend/resume on the XO, and perhaps explain why my
> > G1G1 does not appear to implement this feature? Is it enabled in build
> > 650, or did it not make it into the stable release?
> > Please let me know. Thanks.
> >
> > Jake
> >
> >
> > On Dec 23, 2007 1:45 PM, Jordan Crouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 23/12/07 08:29 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote:
> > > > Jake B wrote:
> > > > > Are XO developers planning to implement support for
> > > > > suspend-to-RAM/resume on the XO?
> > > > > Please let me know. Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > That feature is already implemented.  Press the power button and it
> > > > suspends; press again to resume.  Lid closures do it too.
> > >
> > > And as always, /sys/power/state is available for your manual power
> > > suspending needs.
> > >
> > > Jordan
> > >
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Re: XO touchpad

2007-12-24 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ross Andrews wrote:
> I got my laptop through G1G1 last week, and I've been trying to play  
> with all the neat facets of the hardware, but I'm unable to get the  
> other mode of the touchpad (the stylus mode) to do anything. Is there  
> a particular activity that uses it? Is there some way I can tell  
> Pygame to read it, so I can play with it that way? I figured that  
> Paint would use it, but it doesn't seem to.
>   

One way to exercise the stylus mode is via the firmware selftests.  Turn 
on via the power button, then immediately press and hold the big round 
directional button in the left direction.

That will start a sequence of hardware diagnostics.  Eventually it will 
get to the touchpad test.  That test displays dots corresponding to 
samples received from the touchpad - blue dots for fingertip mode and 
yellow for stylus mode.  Fingernail pressure works as a stylus surrogate.

This selftest feature is of course useless for creating new applications 
that use the device, but it can demonstrate that the hardware is functional.


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Re: Playing with IDEs

2007-12-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Dec 24, 2007 12:55 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Question:  Should I summarize what I did to get Eric3 up and put it on
> the wiki somewhere?
>
> JK

Please do.  That goes for all workarounds. In fact, I'm going to
create...I did create a Workarounds page for descriptions of problems
and links to temporary solutions. Please put something there.


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Re: Playing with IDEs

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Bernie has the details to get a 1200x900 screen in the emulator on the
wiki somewhere (right?); since XOs may in the future have
differently-sized screens, Bernie's contention is that we are just
asking for trouble later if our applications don't scale to the
available space.  Opinions differ on this.
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Re: A bit confused about updates

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
There is an automatic upgrade system.  Your machine will automatically
upgrade to the latest stable version.

The various builds and branches are described at
http://dev.laptop.org/roadmap ; click 'see completed milestones' to
see the older ship.* branches.
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Re: A bit confused about updates

2007-12-24 Thread Jake Beard
If someone could explain what the Update.* branch is, I would
appreciate that as well.
Please let me know. Thanks.

Jake

On Dec 24, 2007 3:55 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, I know I read somewhere an explanation of ship v. joyride etc
> but I can't remember it all.
>
> if I want to keep my olpc at the most up to date stable version, whatt
> updates do i install when?
> Is there an automatic update mechanism for the released software? if
> not, will there be some day?
>
> A pointer at the right wiki page would be fine for an answer.
>
> Thanks
>
> JK
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Re: Playing with IDEs

2007-12-24 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
can I just hack an x-config file to reset this?

I have a big monitor 8)

JK

On Dec 24, 2007 4:03 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeffrey Kesselman writes:
>
> > I have an image of eric3 on VMWare emulation attached.  (Majorly Jpeg
> > compressed so pardon for the artifacty-ness)   It all seems
> > to work fine.
> >
> > It is however kind of cramped, which surprised me given the size of
> > the OLPC's screen.
> >
> > I assume its either treating the screen as lower resolution or drawing
> > the fonts and such very large.  Any Eric wizzes out there know how to
> > fix that?
>
> Emulation bites again. You're at 1024x768, not 1200x900.
>
> I wonder if it does more harm than good to have emulation
> images that go into this resolution. People trying out sugar do
> not all realize that they are not getting things as designed.
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Re: Playing with IDEs

2007-12-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
Jeffrey Kesselman writes:

> I have an image of eric3 on VMWare emulation attached.  (Majorly Jpeg
> compressed so pardon for the artifacty-ness)   It all seems
> to work fine.
>
> It is however kind of cramped, which surprised me given the size of
> the OLPC's screen.
>
> I assume its either treating the screen as lower resolution or drawing
> the fonts and such very large.  Any Eric wizzes out there know how to
> fix that?

Emulation bites again. You're at 1024x768, not 1200x900.

I wonder if it does more harm than good to have emulation
images that go into this resolution. People trying out sugar do
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XO touchpad

2007-12-24 Thread Ross Andrews
I got my laptop through G1G1 last week, and I've been trying to play  
with all the neat facets of the hardware, but I'm unable to get the  
other mode of the touchpad (the stylus mode) to do anything. Is there  
a particular activity that uses it? Is there some way I can tell  
Pygame to read it, so I can play with it that way? I figured that  
Paint would use it, but it doesn't seem to.
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Re: Playing with IDEs

2007-12-24 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
Question:  Should I summarize what I did to get Eric3 up and put it on
the wiki somewhere?

JK

On Dec 24, 2007 12:18 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Dec 23, 2007 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Playing with IDEs
> To: Charles Durrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Its up and working!
>
> I have an image of eric3 on VMWare emulation attached.  (Majorly Jpeg
> compressed so pardon for the artifacty-ness)   It all seems
> to work fine.
>
> It is however kind of cramped, which surprised me given the size of
> the OLPC's screen.
>
> I assume its either treating the screen as lower resolution or drawing
> the fonts and such very large.  Any Eric wizzes out there know how to
> fix that?
>
> JK
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2007 7:55 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ahah!  The proper name is PyQt-qscintilla
> >
> > I have it installed... now to attempt to install eric3
> >
> >
> > On Dec 23, 2007 7:53 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > got it thanks
> > >
> > > That indeed makes it possible to run idle.  Idle is nto exactly hat I
> > > would call an IDE, more an imporved shell, but at least I got it that
> > > far.
> > >
> > > I'd love to get Eric up and running but there don't appear to be
> > > prebuilt binaries of QScintilla available.  At least that I could find
> > > :/
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ack !   that should be "yum" not "yun".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 23, 2007 5:04 PM, Charles Durrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > as root in a terminal session enter
> > > > >
> > > > > yun install tkinter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Dec 23, 2007 4:15 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Figured it was time for a new thread for this
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Idle is actually included on the olpc in /usr/lib/python2.5/idlelib
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However trying to invoke idle.py gives this error...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ** IDLE can't import Tkinter.  Your python may not be configured 
> > > > > > for Tk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Question for those more familiar with python on linux, Is there
> > > > > > something I can yum
> > > > > > or otherwise download and install that would fix this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JK
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A bit confused about updates

2007-12-24 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
Sorry, I know I read somewhere an explanation of ship v. joyride etc
but I can't remember it all.

if I want to keep my olpc at the most up to date stable version, whatt
updates do i install when?
Is there an automatic update mechanism for the released software? if
not, will there be some day?

A pointer at the right wiki page would be fine for an answer.

Thanks

JK

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Re: Login as root on 667

2007-12-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
There are two superior alternatives in the bug report now.
Please pick one or both. (PAM config or mode 4550,
with user "olpc" in the appropriate group)

http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5537
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Re: suspend/resume support?

2007-12-24 Thread Jim Gettys
If you read my blog (http://www.gettysfamily.org/wordpress/ you'll get a
taste for what was involved in building/debugging a machine to
suspend/resume *really* well.  I have one more installment to write, but
the first two installments that will give you a taste of what we went
through.

We ran out of time to get the user level policy done in time; the
testing of the hardware became totally consuming for the team.  We could
always fix the software later: but you don't get to fix the hardware.

Fixed in update.1 (or joyride, today).
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> Could I get more info on /sys/power/state please?
> 
> For a project where intelligent power consumption is such a large
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> the status of suspend/resume on the XO, and perhaps explain why my
> G1G1 does not appear to implement this feature? Is it enabled in build
> 650, or did it not make it into the stable release?
> Please let me know. Thanks.
> 
> Jake
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> > On 23/12/07 08:29 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote:
> > > Jake B wrote:
> > > > Are XO developers planning to implement support for
> > > > suspend-to-RAM/resume on the XO?
> > > > Please let me know. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > That feature is already implemented.  Press the power button and it
> > > suspends; press again to resume.  Lid closures do it too.
> >
> > And as always, /sys/power/state is available for your manual power
> > suspending needs.
> >
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New joyride build 1472

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-kernel.i586 0:2.6.22-20071224.1.olpc.69069a6f1433d98
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Re: [PATCH] CLI Interface to the Sugar Datastore

2007-12-24 Thread Phil Bordelon
Reinier Heeres wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just added a simple script to do this to the ticket about fetching
> objects from the datastore (#5571).
> 
> Please feel free to extend it!

Thanks for proving me wrong on the complexity front. :)

I didn't change much of your code here; I just spruced up the text to
look more like copy-to-journal, and added comments throughout so that
later generations of code-spelunkers can understand what the heck we
are doing in the program.

Thanks so much for taking the time to do this; copy-from-journal is
easily one of the most requested features in #olpc-help.

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Re: Code freeze

2007-12-24 Thread Jim Gettys

On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 11:24 -0500, Kim Quirk wrote:
> Thanks for doing this work, Marco!
> 
> I want to add an Update1 blocker, 5671, which is how to get a
> developer key. In the previous versions there was a link from the
> laptop to get a developer key (from the 'about your XO' in the
> browser)... I can't find that link in the most recent joyrides. 
> 
> Also, we need an Update1 release that includes a lot more stuff from
> joyride so we can be testing the update1 rather than Joyride.

Yes, some people have not been asking for approvals as they should;
update.1 is further from joyride than it ought to be.  I've asked Dennis
to get me a diff between joyride and update.1 so I can figure out what's
left.  We really need the new workflow features for trac to help our
visibility into the state of things, and Noah is working on them for us,
but it won't happen in time for Update.1.

Also, uploads for picking up translations are due about now, per
Sayamindu's mail; getting to RC1 requires a timely response by people
doing that (without uploading activities with tons of unapproved
features, I'm *hoping*).

> 
> Jim - are there a bunch of things that should be in update1 that
> haven't moved from joyride yet?  Do you think it will be possible to
> get an Update1 build this week with as much stuff from joyride as was
> slated to get in? 

Dunno yet.  If we can't get a build together by RC1, we'll clearly have
to slip.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kim
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2007 8:45 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> according to the roadmap we are now in code freeze for
> Update.1. I
> went through the Sugar core tickets and assigned to Retriage
> those I
> don't think it's worth or possible to fix for Update.1.
> 
> Here are the remaining issues:
> 
> http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&component=sugar&component=browse-activity&component=journal-activity&component=datastore&component=presence-service&component=read-activity&component=gtk-theme&order=priority&milestone=Update.1&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type
> 
> Jim, Kim, I'm not sure how strong you want the freeze to be...
> Can you
> please go through the list (they are only 20 tickets) and make
> sure
> there aren't any you *don't* want to fix for Update.1 ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Marco
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Re: Security Certificates

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 24, 2007 11:50 AM, irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The browser correctly identifies a certificate that doesn't match the URL.
> However, there needs to be a way to continue with the page regardless of the
> certificate's validity.   In other words, it should be a warning, as in
> normal browsers and not a ban.  The invalid certificate may occur as a result
> of a self-generated certificate and could be valid.

This is already in our bug tracker:  http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5534
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Security Certificates

2007-12-24 Thread irwin
The browser correctly identifies a certificate that doesn't match the URL.  
However, there needs to be a way to continue with the page regardless of the 
certificate's validity.   In other words, it should be a warning, as in 
normal browsers and not a ban.  The invalid certificate may occur as a result 
of a self-generated certificate and could be valid.

Thanks.

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Re: Login as root on 667

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 24, 2007 11:04 AM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marco,
> If this is the same issue that I just encountered in Joyride, then the login
> is now 'olpc' instead of 'root'.  No password. Sudo should work (i believe).

trac #5537 ; http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-December/008594.html
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Re: Code freeze

2007-12-24 Thread Kim Quirk
Thanks for doing this work, Marco!

I want to add an Update1 blocker, 5671, which is how to get a developer key.
In the previous versions there was a link from the laptop to get a developer
key (from the 'about your XO' in the browser)... I can't find that link in
the most recent joyrides.

Also, we need an Update1 release that includes a lot more stuff from joyride
so we can be testing the update1 rather than Joyride.

Jim - are there a bunch of things that should be in update1 that haven't
moved from joyride yet?  Do you think it will be possible to get an Update1
build this week with as much stuff from joyride as was slated to get in?

Thanks,
Kim


On Dec 24, 2007 8:45 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> according to the roadmap we are now in code freeze for Update.1. I
> went through the Sugar core tickets and assigned to Retriage those I
> don't think it's worth or possible to fix for Update.1.
>
> Here are the remaining issues:
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&component=sugar&component=browse-activity&component=journal-activity&component=datastore&component=presence-service&component=read-activity&component=gtk-theme&order=priority&milestone=Update.1&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type
>
> Jim, Kim, I'm not sure how strong you want the freeze to be... Can you
> please go through the list (they are only 20 tickets) and make sure
> there aren't any you *don't* want to fix for Update.1?
>
> Thanks,
> Marco
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Re: Login as root on 667

2007-12-24 Thread Kim Quirk
Marco,
If this is the same issue that I just encountered in Joyride, then the login
is now 'olpc' instead of 'root'.  No password. Sudo should work (i believe).

Kim


On Dec 24, 2007 5:21 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> how do we login as root in the latest Update.1 image? There seem to be
> a password now and sudo is not installed.
>
> Marco
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New joyride build 1471

2007-12-24 Thread Build Announcer Script
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-kernel.i586 0:2.6.22-20071218.1.olpc.e1ba84245e054ed
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Code freeze

2007-12-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello,

according to the roadmap we are now in code freeze for Update.1. I
went through the Sugar core tickets and assigned to Retriage those I
don't think it's worth or possible to fix for Update.1.

Here are the remaining issues:
http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&component=sugar&component=browse-activity&component=journal-activity&component=datastore&component=presence-service&component=read-activity&component=gtk-theme&order=priority&milestone=Update.1&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type

Jim, Kim, I'm not sure how strong you want the freeze to be... Can you
please go through the list (they are only 20 tickets) and make sure
there aren't any you *don't* want to fix for Update.1?

Thanks,
Marco
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Re: [PATCH] CLI Interface to the Sugar Datastore

2007-12-24 Thread Reinier Heeres
Hi,

I just added a simple script to do this to the ticket about fetching 
objects from the datastore (#5571).

Please feel free to extend it!

Cheers,
Reinier

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> Walter Bender wrote:
>   
>> Is there a corresponding copy from datastore? (It sure would make
>> installing Java simpler for the faint of heart.)
>> 
>
> Not yet, although I have plans to work on something like that.  It's
> considerably more complex, though, as the Sugar datastore is a much
> more opaque beast than a UNIX filesystem.
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Login as root on 667

2007-12-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello,

how do we login as root in the latest Update.1 image? There seem to be
a password now and sudo is not installed.

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Re: Silly Question

2007-12-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, 2007-12-23 at 15:08 -0500, Jeffrey Kesselman wrote:
> On Dec 23, 2007 2:25 PM, Yuan Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Dec 24, 2007 2:21 AM, Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I was plugged into a USB slot on thr ight not the left.
> > > Interestingly enough, on the current software, if you do that the
> > > journal will still see the usb stick but not be able to open it.
> > That's interesting... I used to use the USB slots on the right hand
> > slide of my XO.
> > They should be identical. Better make use that you don't have a broken
> > hardware. :)
> 
> It shows up fine at the bottom of the journal .  I can get to it fine
> from the terminal.
> 
> It just wont open the actual data  in Journal.

I'm very interested in knowing what's going on with that usb stick.
Could you please collect logs as per
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/AttachingSugarLogsToTickets and send or attach
to a ticket in Trac?

Thanks,

Tomeu

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