RE: toolchain for sugarizing local browser apps, game jam
Hi, You can use JAVA. With this activity: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4285you can use any program in Java... For example, this activity uses this bundle to run: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/es-ES/sugar/addon/4303 Regards Alan > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:21:45 +1300 > Subject: toolchain for sugarizing local browser apps, game jam > From: object...@gmail.com > To: devel@lists.laptop.org > > Hi guys. > > Currently in Auckland, NZ now. > > Went to the game developer meetup last night and tossed the idea of an > OLPC game jam for students and pro/hobbyist game developers to Stephen > Knightly (chairperson of the NZ Game Developers Association -> > http://twitter.com/sknightly ) > > Problem is that there aren't enough Python coders and not everyone has > the luxury of learning python. > > Perhaps other platforms that can run on the XO? > > For you guys who've been doing this, like in Nepal, Is there any good > documentation out there for Sugarizing Javascript/CSS/Canvas/HTML5 > apps or any "web bundles" (Java applet/Flash applet packages) in > general? Something that people with *zero* Python experience and who > work on Windows & Mac can use. > > Another reason I'm big on cross-platform stuff for the XO is that so > OLPC kids do not become "digital 2nd hand digital citizens" - they > should be able to enjoy the same apps "the cool rich kids" use. > > We're looking at a possible pitch for the idea to at the auckland game > dev meetup on January as a talk. Game jams are big right now, esp with > http://ludumdare.com and for people who're into the demo scene > http://scene.org instead of building some stuff just to show off mad > skillz for free anyway, how about tapping them and building stuff for > kids? Even interactive digital art stuff? > > Hope everyone is well, > > -Naz > > -- > carlos nazareno > http://twitter.com/object404 > http://www.object404.com > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 11:34:49AM -0400, Kevin Gordon wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:42 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 10:22:26AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Could someone update the green box in the top right of the main > > wiki page please :) > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki > > The firmware items in the little green box might need to be updated as > well. I believe 883 is shipping with Q2E48 on the XO-1, and Q3B22 on > the XO-1.5. I have insufficient permissions to change it - probably a > good thing Thanks for the reminder and the versions shipping on 11.3.0. I've reviewed the changelogs of both streams and agree it is safe to advertise them for use by people with prior builds. I've changed the numbers. I've not tested them with prior builds though. If you've time, you might do that ... install each major release with Q2E48 present, see if the release still works, or whether we've added a firmware vs software regression. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: toolchain for sugarizing local browser apps, game jam
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Hi guys. > > Currently in Auckland, NZ now. > > Went to the game developer meetup last night and tossed the idea of an > OLPC game jam for students and pro/hobbyist game developers to Stephen > Knightly (chairperson of the NZ Game Developers Association -> > http://twitter.com/sknightly ) > > Problem is that there aren't enough Python coders and not everyone has > the luxury of learning python. > > Perhaps other platforms that can run on the XO? > > For you guys who've been doing this, like in Nepal, Is there any good > documentation out there for Sugarizing Javascript/CSS/Canvas/HTML5 > apps or any "web bundles" (Java applet/Flash applet packages) in > general? Something that people with *zero* Python experience and who > work on Windows & Mac can use. Tomeu built a SWF interface to Sugar in order to build EatBloom http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~tomeu/EatBoom-1.xo I did a very simple Javascript activity: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4085 The work we have been putting into Gnome 3.0 will make it much easier to support multiple languages... stay tuned. -walter > > Another reason I'm big on cross-platform stuff for the XO is that so > OLPC kids do not become "digital 2nd hand digital citizens" - they > should be able to enjoy the same apps "the cool rich kids" use. > > We're looking at a possible pitch for the idea to at the auckland game > dev meetup on January as a talk. Game jams are big right now, esp with > http://ludumdare.com and for people who're into the demo scene > http://scene.org instead of building some stuff just to show off mad > skillz for free anyway, how about tapping them and building stuff for > kids? Even interactive digital art stuff? > > Hope everyone is well, > > -Naz > > -- > carlos nazareno > http://twitter.com/object404 > http://www.object404.com > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
toolchain for sugarizing local browser apps, game jam
Hi guys. Currently in Auckland, NZ now. Went to the game developer meetup last night and tossed the idea of an OLPC game jam for students and pro/hobbyist game developers to Stephen Knightly (chairperson of the NZ Game Developers Association -> http://twitter.com/sknightly ) Problem is that there aren't enough Python coders and not everyone has the luxury of learning python. Perhaps other platforms that can run on the XO? For you guys who've been doing this, like in Nepal, Is there any good documentation out there for Sugarizing Javascript/CSS/Canvas/HTML5 apps or any "web bundles" (Java applet/Flash applet packages) in general? Something that people with *zero* Python experience and who work on Windows & Mac can use. Another reason I'm big on cross-platform stuff for the XO is that so OLPC kids do not become "digital 2nd hand digital citizens" - they should be able to enjoy the same apps "the cool rich kids" use. We're looking at a possible pitch for the idea to at the auckland game dev meetup on January as a talk. Game jams are big right now, esp with http://ludumdare.com and for people who're into the demo scene http://scene.org instead of building some stuff just to show off mad skillz for free anyway, how about tapping them and building stuff for kids? Even interactive digital art stuff? Hope everyone is well, -Naz -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:42 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 10:22:26AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Could someone update the green box in the top right of the main wiki > > page please :) > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki > The firmware items in the little green box might need to be updated as well. I believe 883 is shipping with Q2E48 on the XO-1, and Q3B22 on the XO-1.5. I have insufficient permissions to change it - probably a good thing Cheers KG > > Done. Could the release engineer for the next release start the release > notes? ;-) > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, > XO-1.5 and as a provisional release for XO-1.75. Details of new > features, known issues, and how to download/install/upgrade can all be > found in the release notes: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.3.0 > > Many thanks to all contributors, testers, upstreams, and those who > have provided feedback of any kind. Bravo! Fantastic work from all quarters. Thanks Daniel for shepherding the process and to all the team for getting a great OS out. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.75 relative performance
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > System SoC/CPU OS + arch time > XO-1.75 Armada 610 @ 0.8GHz Debian armel 199.108s > XO-1.5 VIA C7-M @ 1GHz Debian i386 199.285s > OpenRD 88F6281 @ 1.2GHz Debian armel 181.277s > Desktop PC Athlon BE-2300 @ 1.9GHz Debian amd64 34.180s > > I must admit I'm surprised by the result. sup (my MUA of choice) feels > much slower on XO-1.75 than on XO-1.5 - and that's even though dstat > reports higher SD card write throughput (with a different card). Maybe I > should do some side-by-side comparisons. I think this is pretty relevant. XO-1.75 is roughly similar CPU-performance wise to a XO-1.5, will be a bit faster with a fully optimized toolchain and compiler, which we don't have for 11.3.0 (but plan to have for 12.1.0). The solid state disk storage is much faster on XO-1.75. The GPU is currently slower, but potentially a bit faster. You can think about it as a bit faster than XO-1.5, with much lower power draw, and lower price. As any generalization, it's only valid if you don't look into the details... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.75 relative performance
On 02.11.2011, at 13:59, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from C. Scott Ananian's message of 2011-11-02 05:58:42 +0100: > >> A pure-CPU benchmark (maybe something in Pippy?) would be a little >> more reliable. > > === Begin facspeed.py === > #!/usr/bin/env python > import time > > def factorial(n): >result = 1 >while n > 1: >result *= n >n -= 1 >return result > > n = 10 > start_time = time.time() > factorial(n) > time_diff = time.time() - start_time > > print '%d! computed in %.3fs' % (n, time_diff) > === End facspeed.py === > > > SystemSoC/CPU OS + arch time > XO-1.75 Armada 610 @ 0.8GHz Debian armel199.108s > XO-1.5VIA C7-M @ 1GHz Debian i386 199.285s > OpenRD88F6281 @ 1.2GHzDebian armel181.277s > Desktop PCAthlon BE-2300 @ 1.9GHz Debian amd64 34.180s > > > I must admit I'm surprised by the result. sup (my MUA of choice) feels > much slower on XO-1.75 than on XO-1.5 - and that's even though dstat > reports higher SD card write throughput (with a different card). Maybe I > should do some side-by-side comparisons. According to "0 tinyBenchmarks" in Squeak Etoys (which estimates bytecodes/sec and message sends/sec), the 1.75 is about 10% faster than the 1.5. Both were running os883. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: EC corruption by q2f04rc firmware
On 10/31/2011 03:34 PM, Hal Murray wrote: Ahh... found it. I only get the red LED if the battery is fully charged. What do you call the LED next to the battery LED that indicates that the system is running? The power LED. That's tangled up in this confusion too. I've seen my system running when that LED is off and seen it turn on when I poke the power-off button and back off when I try to start the system. I'll call it the CPU LED. Starting with a full battery and no AC, the pattern is: battery LED is off, CPU LED is on close lid short delay CPU LED goes out few second delay battery LED goes orange few second delay battery LED goes red pause open lid (I've got it setup to auto start) system goes active, CPU LED stays off, battery LED stays red, keyboard doesn't work Thanks for everyone's help testing. I'm back in the US now and tried this on a XO-1 in a system rather than just a bare board. I've duplicated the problem. I'll work on fixing the problems and make a new release. -- Richard A. Smith One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.75 relative performance
Excerpts from C. Scott Ananian's message of 2011-11-02 05:58:42 +0100: > A pure-CPU benchmark (maybe something in Pippy?) would be a little > more reliable. === Begin facspeed.py === #!/usr/bin/env python import time def factorial(n): result = 1 while n > 1: result *= n n -= 1 return result n = 10 start_time = time.time() factorial(n) time_diff = time.time() - start_time print '%d! computed in %.3fs' % (n, time_diff) === End facspeed.py === System SoC/CPU OS + arch time XO-1.75 Armada 610 @ 0.8GHz Debian armel199.108s XO-1.5 VIA C7-M @ 1GHz Debian i386 199.285s OpenRD 88F6281 @ 1.2GHzDebian armel181.277s Desktop PC Athlon BE-2300 @ 1.9GHz Debian amd64 34.180s I must admit I'm surprised by the result. sup (my MUA of choice) feels much slower on XO-1.75 than on XO-1.5 - and that's even though dstat reports higher SD card write throughput (with a different card). Maybe I should do some side-by-side comparisons. Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO 1.75 update
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Gordon wrote: > For the past couple of days, the directory: > > http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/14/Everything/arm/os/repodata/ > > seems to be empty. > > This seems to be the cause of why any yum install attempts are failing, as > the process cannot 'retrieve repository metatdata (repomd.xml)'. The actual > error number returned is an HTTP 404, which indicates to me that I can > communicate with the server. Browsing to many other sites is fine. > Lastly, the process is also indicating that no other mirror seems to be > succeeding either. There might be a mirror sync problem. I'll investigate. P ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
XO 1.75 update
For the past couple of days, the directory: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/14/Everything/arm/os/repodata/ seems to be empty. This seems to be the cause of why any yum install attempts are failing, as the process cannot 'retrieve repository metatdata (repomd.xml)'. The actual error number returned is an HTTP 404, which indicates to me that I can communicate with the server. Browsing to many other sites is fine. Lastly, the process is also indicating that no other mirror seems to be succeeding either. Thanks KG ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 10:22:26AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > Could someone update the green box in the top right of the main wiki > page please :) > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki Done. Could the release engineer for the next release start the release notes? ;-) -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
Could someone update the green box in the top right of the main wiki page please :) http://wiki.laptop.org/go/The_OLPC_Wiki Peter On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, > XO-1.5 and as a provisional release for XO-1.75. Details of new > features, known issues, and how to download/install/upgrade can all be > found in the release notes: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/11.3.0 > > Many thanks to all contributors, testers, upstreams, and those who > have provided feedback of any kind. > > For those who were following the release candidate process in the last > few weeks: candidate build 883 is released as final with no changes. > > Thanks and enjoy! > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
