Re: sugar-gnomekeyring.patch

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Hi All:

 Just looking at the current 0.96-3 src.rpm for sugar and wondering if
 sugar-gnomekeyring.patch should be somewhere else other than in the
 sugar package. This is a one time configuration that the olpc-utils[1]
 package currently handles. Perhaps olpc-utils would be a better place
 for this piece of code.

It's fine there is you use it in a single user environment with a user
called olpc but if you want to use it in a multiuser environment
where the user isn't defined that model breaks and that is why the
patch was added there.

Peter
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Engadget post on XO Touch

2012-07-27 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 5:15 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote:


 On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:

  www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/olpc-xo-touch-1-75-to-use-neonode-tech/
 
  The post says as yet unreleased XO 1.75. What's the official status
  on the 1.75? Still as yet unreleased?

 It's been shipping for some time now.
 I don't know where they got that information.

 And the correct name for the new generation will probably be XO-4 and
 XO-4 Touch.


I'm confused:

What's the difference between the XO-4 (without the touch) and the XO-1.75
going to be?

Also, Neonode's press release refers to the touch-enabled device as OLPC
XO Touch 1.75 which fits in much better with the current naming scheme.
Especially since an XO-4 which will pressumably become available before the
XO 3.0 tablet sees the light of day would make the tablet seem outdated
from day one.

Cheers,
Christoph

-- 
Christoph Derndorfer

volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at]
editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com]
contributor, TechnikBasteln [www.technikbasteln.net]

e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Fwd: [PATCH]Add --cacheonly to livecd-create (and to olpc-os-builder)

2012-07-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 That is kind of interesting as I'm on liv...@lists.fedoraproject.org. I
 have not had any email from that list since July 9 nor have the
 archives[1]. Where did that email end up going?

Yeah, I'm subscribed there with nomail, and the listserv just eats my
emails. Did not debug that, though. Brian got the patches, reviewed
them, and queued them for a push to git.

 On the OOB front, where is simplecache being created?

$ git grep simplecache
lib/ooblib.py:cachedfpath = os.path.join(cachedir, 'simplecache',
hashlib.sha1(url).hexdigest())
lib/ooblib.py:ourcachedir=os.path.join(cachedir, 'simplecache')




m
-- 
 martin.langh...@gmail.com
 mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC
 - ask interesting questions
 - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
 - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the
 0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets as rpms. As this
 discussion does not impact the UI and more of a packaging issue I'm an
 not creating a Features page. The discussion can take place here on the
 mailing-list.

This sounds like a good idea. Indeed, its not a sugar feature request,
its more a packaging detail.

Peter, what do you think about splitting the cpsection extensions (in
/usr/share/sugar) into individual subpackages, to be selected by the
Sugar Desktop group but not as direct dependencies of the Sugar
packages? For F18+

Thanks,
Daniel
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the
 0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets as rpms. As this
 discussion does not impact the UI and more of a packaging issue I'm an
 not creating a Features page. The discussion can take place here on the
 mailing-list.

 This sounds like a good idea. Indeed, its not a sugar feature request,
 its more a packaging detail.

 Peter, what do you think about splitting the cpsection extensions (in
 /usr/share/sugar) into individual subpackages, to be selected by the
 Sugar Desktop group but not as direct dependencies of the Sugar
 packages? For F18+

Yes, I agree, I read this earlier and tagged it for follow up. It
certainly makes sense and allows us to package things up properly and
if it makes it easier for deployments I'm all for it. It would also
make it easier to swap out certain components too.

Regards,
Peter
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Retina display

2012-07-27 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
The phrase retina display is being used a lot these days. My reading
indicates that the vendor uses this term quite loosely [1]. There you
can see that the definition currently ranges from 326 to 220 ppi.

The resolution of the XO's display is listed as 200 dpi [2], which is
not far off. If I have understood correctly, dpi in the context of
display technologies is the same thing as ppi [3].

Without infringing any trademarks, how closely could we say that the
XO's display is a retina one?

Sridhar


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_display#Technical_information
[2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display
[3] http://www.andrewdaceyphotography.com/articles/dpi/


Sridhar Dhanapalan
Engineering Manager
One Laptop per Child Australia
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Retina display

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Leonard
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan
srid...@laptop.org.au wrote:
 The phrase retina display is being used a lot these days. My reading
 indicates that the vendor uses this term quite loosely [1]. There you
 can see that the definition currently ranges from 326 to 220 ppi.

 The resolution of the XO's display is listed as 200 dpi [2], which is
 not far off. If I have understood correctly, dpi in the context of
 display technologies is the same thing as ppi [3].

 Without infringing any trademarks, how closely could we say that the
 XO's display is a retina one?

 Sridhar


 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retina_display#Technical_information
 [2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display
 [3] http://www.andrewdaceyphotography.com/articles/dpi/

Personally, I think saying we have a Pixel Qi display is more
impressive, but of course, that does not have the name recognition of
retina given the amount of marketing dollars on the retina
branding by Apple.  Any question on characterizing the display should
probably be referred to Mary Lou Jepson (now at Pixel Qi).

http://www.pixelqi.com/

IANAL, but the term Retina in reference to computers and mobile
devices is an Apple trademark, so any such use (referring to anything
but an Apple device) would be violating their rights to that mark.

cjl
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Retina display

2012-07-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote:
 IANAL, but the term Retina in reference to computers and mobile

How about fovea display?

;-)


m
-- 
 martin.langh...@gmail.com
 mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC
 - ask interesting questions
 - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
 - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: [OLPC-AU] Retina display

2012-07-27 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:45:04PM -0400, Chris Leonard wrote:
 IANAL, but the term Retina in reference to computers and mobile
 devices is an Apple trademark, so any such use (referring to anything
 but an Apple device) would be violating their rights to that mark.

IANAL too (although I Am Known As Legalist fits me) ... and any bid 
specification from a purchaser that uses the trademark would be effectively 
saying we want an Apple.

-- 
James Cameron
http://quozl.linux.org.au/
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: [OLPC-AU] Retina display

2012-07-27 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 28 July 2012 13:51, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:45:04PM -0400, Chris Leonard wrote:
 IANAL, but the term Retina in reference to computers and mobile
 devices is an Apple trademark, so any such use (referring to anything
 but an Apple device) would be violating their rights to that mark.

 IANAL too (although I Am Known As Legalist fits me) ... and any bid 
 specification from a purchaser that uses the trademark would be effectively 
 saying we want an Apple.

Just to be clear, my question was not based on any external request.
It was just an instance of curiosity from yours truly :)

Sridhar
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: [OLPC-AU] Retina display

2012-07-27 Thread John Watlington

Don't go there.

It is hard to talk about the resolution of the PixelQi display.
In BW mode, it is 1200 x 900.In color mode, it is something
closer to 690 x 520, but the human visual system has much
less color resolution anyway so it appears sharper.
MLJ did a great job of matching the display to the HVS.

Cheers,
wad

On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

 On 28 July 2012 13:51, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:45:04PM -0400, Chris Leonard wrote:
 IANAL, but the term Retina in reference to computers and mobile
 devices is an Apple trademark, so any such use (referring to anything
 but an Apple device) would be violating their rights to that mark.
 
 IANAL too (although I Am Known As Legalist fits me) ... and any bid 
 specification from a purchaser that uses the trademark would be effectively 
 saying we want an Apple.
 
 Just to be clear, my question was not based on any external request.
 It was just an instance of curiosity from yours truly :)
 
 Sridhar
 ___
 Devel mailing list
 Devel@lists.laptop.org
 http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: [Server-devel] Error Installing XS 0.7 from USB: can't find image #1 on disk

2012-07-27 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 21:51 -0700, Brian wrote:
 On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
  
  Using the windows tool is not recommended, use mkusbinstall[1] from the
  XS-repo, and you would need livecd-tools from Fedora 16 or greater
  installed. Which version of the windows tool are are you using? Maybe we
  can work with what was created, can you show me the layout that was
  created on the  
 
 I don't have another Linux box available here to run mkusbinstall. I tried 
 unetbootin but it wouldnt make it bootable so tried another app called Rufus 
 iirc which is like DD for windows to move the ISO to USB. 
 
 I booted into rescue mode and mounted /dev/sdb1 and here are the contents of 
 /:
 
 Packages/
 TRANS.TBL
 autorun.ico
 Autorun.inf
 images/
 isolinux/
 ldlinux.sys
 media.repo
 olpcxs.ks
 repodata/
 syslinux.cfg
 
 In images/ are install.img, updates.img. 
 
 Brian
 
 

Based on the updates.img[1] think the installer is looking for the iso
image of the cdrom, can you try copying the whole XS iso image to the
root of the usbdrive, rename repodata, packages, and media.repo.
Try that first, if that fails you might have to revert the changes to
isolinux.cfg and try again.

Jerry  

1.http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-xs-builder/tree/xs-0.7/anaconda/usbinstall.patch

___
Server-devel mailing list
Server-devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel