Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems with soas
On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 08:17 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Why did you need to partition the stick? Can you get your hands on a factory-formated 1G stick? On Windows, format it with the name FEDORA to FAT and then run the LiveUSB Creator? -walter Ok you win. When I did the process in Windows the installation of soas worked. The stick had to be formatted and partitioned. If it was not partitioned it could not be formatted. I guess more expensive sticks must come partitioned. However, the same process I did under windows using liveusb-creator does not work under Linux. I would be interested in hearing from someone who did this under linux and find out their secret. -- === Littering is dumb. -- Ronald Macdonald === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems with soas
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 09:41 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: What brand of stick was it? Maybe try it on a different computer? And try a different key? -Walter Ok, I took your advice and got a new stick. It was not partitioned so I had to partition it. Was that ok? I installed soas.beta.iso using liveusb-creator The the result was the same as before. The stick booted to a Grey screen. Hitting a key I saw thew message , hit tab to change configuration. I hit TAB and the Greek characters: iota tau epsilon appeared. Hitting another key got me the message: Password needed. After that I alternately got these messages when hitting keys. There is something wrong but I can't see it. Can anyone else see it? -- === I'll burn my books. -- Christopher Marlowe === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net . ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Problems with soas
I am missing something the production of soas. I wonder if someone can point out what it is? 1. I downloaded soas.beta.iso.. I am running F9. 2. I installed it on a usb stick using liveusb-creator, which seemed to be successful. 3. But when I boot form the usb stick it sits at a Boot: prompt and says it can't find a Linux kernel. What is wrong? Does the usb stick have to be formatted ext2, for example or can it be NTFS? -- === Often statistics are used as a drunken man uses lampposts -- for support rather than illumination. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Check this out
Does anyone use jimmyr's unofficial google word translator for firefox under Fedora-10? It is described at http://blog.jimmyr.com/Unofficial_Google_Translate_Firefox_Extension_05_2008.php. There is a YouTube video describing how to use it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIH03t2FEfsannotation_id=annotation_809610feature=iv. Watch the video. Unfortunately, currently it seems to be only able to translate whole pages not words or paragraphs. -- === It's better to burn out than to fade away. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [support-gang] the keyhandler.ppy mystery
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 10:30 -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: There is a file /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/keyhandler.py on the XO that presumably defines key use. Does anyone know if that file gets munged will installing another build replace it with a fresh copy? Yes, it will. I appreciate your response but I have some recent experiences with my XO that make me question what you are saying. Let me tell you my story. I was running build 801 and I opened keyhandler.py in an editor. I did not mean to change it but maybe I mistakenly did. Shortly after that the functioning of my XO keyboard slowly deteriorated. First after typing 2 or 3 characters it would freeze up. Or it would type nonsense characters. I installed the previous build 767 by holding down the O game key at boot but things did not improve. The Home, Mesh, etc keys did not function. But at this point I could synchronize the cursor by holding down the four corner keys. ctl-u erased the current line inn the terminal. esc worked for a while. Returning to 801 did not help and eventually all keys failed to work. A usb keyboard worked without problem. A run of the self test showed that the keys were functional, so it had to be a software problem. Finally a usb install that is described as erasing all XO data brought my XO back to life. Now this was a software problem. The only key related file I messed with was keyhandler.py. That seems to be the culprit and it seems that installing a new build under normal procedures does not change this file. Can anyone suggest another reason for my experiences? -- === Remember: Silly is a state of Mind, Stupid is a way of Life. -- Dave Butler === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
the keyhandler.ppy mystery
There is a file /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/keyhandler.py on the XO that presumably defines key use. Does anyone know if that file gets munged will installing another build replace it with a fresh copy? -- === Now hatred is by far the longest pleasure; Men love in haste, but they detest at leisure. -- George Gordon, Lord Byron, Don Juan === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Lockup of 800 and 801
Both 800 and 801 lockup completely fairly regularly. Once locked up the keys don't work . All I can do is hit the start button to turn the machine off and then turn it back on. Am I the only one having this problem? -- === The scum also rises. -- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
A furthere comment on Paint
Just to defend my honor I think I can say that those who think running Paint is intuitively obvious have not tried Paint on 800. Its 6 color choosers that work in groups of 2 make it somewhat more complex than Paint used to be. Not the least of the mysteries is just how the groups of 2 interact with each other. Documentation is needed before this is released to world of children. -- === Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent. -- Walt Kelly === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
2 problems with 8.2.1
I find 2 problems with the 8.2.1 system I installed on my xo. To date I have not seen other complaints of the same type so maybe my machine is uniquely faulty: 1. I have to repeatedly resync the touchpads, where repeatedly means every 15 minutes or so. 2. I have been unable to get the xo to connect to a WPA (PEAP) AP. In fact that AP is not even recognized and does not show up in the neighborhood view. -- === I don't mind what Congress does, as long as they don't do it in the streets and frighten the horses. -- Victor Hugo === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 9.1 Proposal: Printing support
On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 09:35 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *But*, we should be able to: * Print postscript (or pdf, or whatever, just pick *one*) to school server via CUP (IPP?), and install a decent selection of printer drivers on the school server. Control panel for 'default printer name', fixed to 'XS' by default. Ok - adding the XS side of this is something we can do in the 9.1 lifecycle. As I mentioned in my other email, the mechanical part of getting printing done is not the most interesting part of the job. It's the social issues around it -- handling of quotas, priorities, etc that I think deserve most attention. Paper, ink and printer time are extremely valuable. printer selection needs to happen on the client, but all the other things that you list are server-side issues, aren't they? David Lang Only in the sense that when the application runs that wants to print you need to tell it which printer it is to use.However, if there is only one printer and that is made the default,even that does not have to be done. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Odd occurance when installing 764
After installing 764, in circle mode I had an icon for the calculator activity, but it would not run successfully. Switching to line mode I found the calculator had not been designated as a favorite. When I made it a favorite I had two calculator icons in circle mode of the home page. The second (new one) ran successfully. When I erased the first one I had one calculator icon that ran correctly. A similar experience occurred for me in 757 with a different Application. I don't know why I seem to have all the really strange experiences. Just lucky I guess:-) - -- === mathematician, n.: Some one who believes imaginary things appear right before your _i's. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 18:03 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Aaron Konstam writes: Someone in a recent message suggested that people should learn to routinely erase Journal entries to prevent the NAND from filling up. Unless I have missed something that is a very tedious task to lay on someone using the current GUI interface for erasing journal entries. Journal entries are added at a steady rate but their removal is a tedious one at a time process. I can't imagine child taking the time to keep these entries erased routinely. Another erasure method is needed. I gave up. My journal has 1150 entries, 99% spam. I don't even want to look in the journal. Not ever! It's unusable. It's worse than the worst email inbox nightmare. Nothing has a useful name, the scroll bar doesn't move with my mouse, clicking to mark an entry takes many seconds to work (leading me to click again), and the purely iconic interface is totally incomprehensible. I'd even prefer the dreadful interface of Macintosh System 1. An improvement would be to delete the datastore at boot. No joke. The user's files are effectively missing already, because they are lost among the spam. Stuff saved to the journal is unrecoverable in any practical way. In other words: users CAN NOT SAVE THEIR WORK on the XO. Sure, it may technically get saved, but there is no hope for finding it back. Clearly, nobody is dogfooding. We discussed this at the last support-group teleconference. There was general agreement that another journal erasure paradigm is needed. -- === interest, n.: What borrowers pay, lenders receive, stockholders own, and burned out employees must feign. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
The tedium of erasing journal entries
Someone in a recent message suggested that people should learn to routinely erase Journal entries to prevent the NAND from filling up. Unless I have missed something that is a very tedious task to lay on someone using the current GUI interface for erasing journal entries. Journal entries are added at a steady rate but their removal is a tedious one at a time process. I can't imagine child taking the time to keep these entries erased routinely. Another erasure method is needed. -- === Q: What do you say to a Puerto Rican in a three-piece suit? A: Will the defendant please rise? === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
[Fwd: [support-gang] Must read post by Ivan Krstic]
Forwarded Message From: Alan Claver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help AT laptop.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help AT laptop.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [support-gang] Must read post by Ivan Krstic Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 20:07:18 -0400 http://radian.org/notebook/sic-transit-gloria-laptopi -- === The world has many unintentionally cruel mechanisms that are not designed for people who walk on their hands. -- John Irving, The World According to Garp === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: A technical assessment of porting Sugar to Windows.
-- === Work without a vision is slavery, Vision without work is a pipe dream, But vision with work is the hope of the world. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: on Sugar
This is fine except for one thing. Running Sugar on top of proprietary software means that sugar developers who have to deal with problems in the interface between XP , let us say, and sugar will have to know alot more about the XP side of the interface than MS$ normally reveals. Has MS$ agreed to cooperate in helping developers of sugar or revealing their trade secrets to OLPC? On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 12:06 -0400, Nicholas Negroponte wrote: People keep asking me: Yes, OLPCs commitment to Sugar has changed. It is now larger, not smaller. Contrary to inferences drawn by Walters departure, the press and venerable sources such as OLPC News, we are scaling Sugar up, not down. Let me explain. Sugar is a very good idea, less than perfectly executed. I attribute our weakness to unrealistic development goals and practices. Our mission has never changed. It has been to bring connected laptops for learning to children in the poorest and most remote locations of the world. Our mission has never been to advocate the perfect learning model or pure Open Source. I believe the best educational tool is constructionism and the best software development method is Open Source. In some cases those are best achieved like the Trojan Horse, versus direct confrontation or isolating ourselves with perfection. Remember the expression: perfection is the enemy of good. We need to reach the most children possible and leverage them as the agents of change. It makes no sense for us to search for the perfect learning model. For this reason, Sugar needs a wider basis, to run on more Linux platforms and to run under Windows. We have been engaged in discussions with Microsoft for several months, to explore a dual boot version of the XO. Some of you have seen what Microsoft developed on their own for the XO. It works well and now needs Sugar on top of it (so to speak). As a non-profit, humanitarian organization, OLPC has a unique position, from which it can change the world for children and learning. Laptop makers rushing into the low-end marketplace is a perfect example of success of one kind. Another will be what kids do outside school and with other kids around the world. A third is what we do. We are not a business, but need to be more business-like: meet schedules, manage expectations and fulfill promises. To do that, we need to hire more developers, work more together and spend less time arguing. Because of public attention, anything we say will be quoted out of context. We can only speak with our actions and those are only one: a reliable and ubiquitous Sugar. That includes being more collaborative engineers ourselves and engaging the community better. Our limitations are not financial, but identifying the required human resources and resolve to do so. What is in front of us is an opportunity for big change. Sugar is at the core of it. To pretend otherwise would be a joke. That said, Sugar needs to be disentangled. I keep using the omelet analogy, claiming it needs to be a fried egg, with distinct yoke and white, rather than having the UI, collaborative tools, power management and radios merge into one amorphous blob. Otherwise, it is impossible to debug and will be limited to the small, albeit growing, world of the XO hardware platform. As we reach out to engage a wider community, some purism has to morph into pragmatism. To suggest that this forsakes Open Source or redirects our mission is absurd. Kids will be the agents of change and our job is to reach the most of them. That is not just selling laptops, but making Sugar as robust and widely available as possible. Nicholas ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- === Be careful! UGLY strikes 9 out of 10! === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
[Fwd: Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.]
I would suggest that you don't really understand the reason for supporting open source. No software running on top of XP, for example, will free of the pressures form MS to do what they want you to do. And what they want you to do may have nothing to do with the desires of teachers and students across the world. Currently, any software problems that occur in the f 7 base for sugar can be dealt with by altering code that developers have access to. That openness will not come from MS. If there is a problem with the underlying operating system fixing the problem will depend on MS largess which up to now has been minimal. Forwarded Message From: Carol Lerche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: devel-list devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP. Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:28:46 -0700 The OLPC Association has done amazing things with limited resources and deserves to take great pride in this. However, this Negroponte quotation from the article seems correct to me: He lamented that an overriding insistence on open-source had hampered the XOs, saying Sugar grew amorphously and didn't have a software architect who did it in a crisp way. For instance, the laptops do not support Flash animation, widely used on the Web. There are several examples like that, that we have to address without worrying about the fundamentalism in some of the open-source community, he said. One can be an open-source advocate without being an open-source fundamentalist. You have to prioritize your goals when they conflict. The question to consider -- is it really the case that having a 100% pure open source platform is more important IN THE SHORT TERM than making a type of content available that is ubiquitous as a format for delivering educational content. Gnash is simply not an equivalent product to the Adobe player IN THE SHORT TERM and it would have been a pragmatic choice to work hard to get Adobe to permit their flash player to be shipped with the XO. By making these tradeoffs of upholding purity of open source when teachers and school/ed ministry people obviously prioritize the content ahead of the purity of the implementation, one ends up in a place where time is short and an MS port may be catching up. Of course the target audience will prefer the solution on which they can deliver the content they want. Essentially the attempt at total purity may result in a much worse outcome with respect to the open source goal. Recriminations against Negroponte are less productive than learning from the consequences of trying to achieve an overly ambitious constellation of conflicting goals. Instead reach the goals in priority order through realistic, explicit, predictable and explainable phasing, as now seems to be the plan. Certainly, if Walter manages to get funding for a project to expand sugar for other platforms it will assist in reaching the final target. More resources will be available to attack the problems posed by adopting an entirely new user interface such as sugar, while being asked to deliver applications and content that are the most understandable part of the OLPC package to the adopters.. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- === You can always tell the people that are forging the new frontier. They're the ones with arrows sticking out of their backs. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Walter leaving and shift to XP.
I always forget that when I reply the message does not go to the list. On the support-gang list there is quite a bit of discouragement over Walter leaving because Negroponte has decided to go the XP route with the XO. And he is in talks with MS$ to get a version of XP to run on the XO. How may developers want to shift to developing for an XP based, rather than a sugar based , platform? -- === For fools rush in where angels fear to tread. -- Alexander Pope === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming
On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 10:32 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Charles Merriam wrote: Thanks for formalising this, I would also strongly suggest that the organisation is moved to the far right, and that we get rid of year. component major minor bugfix organisation I strongly suggest we keep the year. Yes, really, OLPC should release new software at least once per year. It should dump support for software two or more years old. It should release based on time, not feature. Also, why add a minor-minor (bugfix) number? I strongly feel that we should not put the year in releases. I personally think that we should use OLPC-Version.bugfix for the os so what has previously been called update.1 should be OLPC-2.0 any bug fixes based on this would be OLPC-2.1 etc Dennis The question is really would the date be information that is useful. I am not sure. My feeling is that at the rate things are going with development it would not. Who cares for example if f8 came out in 2007 or 2008 and why would that be important information? -- === The means-and-ends moralists, or non-doers, always end up on their ends without any means. -- Saul Alinsky === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 04:34 +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Well, if this is a democracy, of sorts, I'll stick my neck out and vote to stick with a release-703, or official-703, kind'a format. I just really, really dislike dates floating into version naming (and even worse product naming - where the goal is to make you feel out of date in time for the next hard sell). Also avoids all that, so whose calendar format/locale are we going to use in the name, what's so magical about the end of a year that we get a whole new number to release, and so what specific release version number did go out in the April-2008 build? Gary I don't know the answer but as I told Michael Stone using names like 656 together with names like update-1-703 is shear lunacy. What ever the naming scheme is it should consistent without on all levels of discussion about the build. The indication of which are ready fro prime time by using words like stable, development or unstable might be acceptable, but once it is stable the name should blend with the names of other stable builds. In case you missed it in the support group teleconference there was a suggestion to name Update-1-703, Uruguay-703. -- === I've given up reading books; I find it takes my mind off myself. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 10:38 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Is Uruguay even using 703? Peru is. Mexico probably will... Mongolia probably will... Ok, maybe it was Mexico-703 but for reasons you state below that is the wrong way to go. OLPC-1, OLPC-2 , etc. sounds good to me. While I like the discipline that is suggested by a date scheme, it doesn't really add much real value over simply sequential numbering. We certainly should avoid using seasonal names, as that will cause hemispheric confusion. As far as a feature-based scheme, that will just increase the pressure to do an end-run around our renewed pledge to do time-based releases. I'm in favor of Dennis's suggestion. OLPC-1; OLPC-2, ... It is simple and, I argue, unambiguous. The hardware is XO-1, XO-2... -walter -- === I don't know what Descartes' got, But booze can do what Kant cannot. -- Mike Cross === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:40 -0300, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After having worked in projects with many schemes, I find that the best communicator is a 3-part release name x.y.z where... Which is what Richard is saying too, except he is clearer ;-) For builds that are custom in some way (Mexico as mentioned above), the customisation has to be last, so - 1.0.33 - 1.0.33-Mexico is clear. As for a name, I would say XOOS or XO-OS. That would make my ISOs XS-OS, which makes sense. In both cases, it is a complete OS image. Someone may package the subset that is Sugar and its apps separately. Therefore we can later say that XOOS-1.0.33 and XSOS-0.5.3 have been tested together, and that carries a ton of information that, for anyone following the versioning conventions used all around, is easy to decompress and interpret. For example, if you are using XOOS-1.0.32 with XSOS-0.5.3 you probably need not worry, and in any case, a quick read of the changelog for XOOS-1.0.33 will show you if any bugfix is desirable to you. cheers, martin I guess I changed my mind the x.y.z names seem the best system of all the suggestions. -- === Never ask the barber if you need a haircut. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Tkinter in olpc
Does anyone have and opinion on whether python's Tkinter facility could be added to python on the XO by simply copying the contents of lib-tk from an f7 system? -- === Ain't that something what happened today. One of us got traded to Kansas City. -- Casey Stengel, informing outfielder Bob Cerv he'd been traded. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
python programming assist.
Recently someone mentioned they were trying to improve their python programming skills. Attached is a python program than might help. It is called: create_module_list If create_module_list is executed for example like so: create_module_list string it will produce a file called: string_modules which contains a list of all the functions in string.py together with the documentation of each function. It will not work properly on packages. -- === A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. -- P. Erdos === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/env python produces list of components in a python module Usage: create_module_list module_name import string, sys if len(sys.argv) == 1: print Usage: create_module_list module_name else: module = sys.argv[1] exec(import + module) osmod= eval( dir(+module + )) file=open(module +_modules,w) file.write( List of + module+ modules \n + -- \n\n) index=0 while index len(osmod): element=osmod[index] file.write(element + '\n') docum=eval(module +. + element + .__doc__) if docum != None: file.write(docum + '\n') file.write(\n + ==+'\n') index = index+1 file.close() ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Confusing build names.
I asked this question on the support list and did not get an answer I am comfortable with. Why is it necessary to have at least three unrelated methods of naming builds? To me that just confuses people. -- === Everyone complains of his memory, no one of his judgement. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Setting up Fedora 7 on a ex-Windows machine (Ottawa)
On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 10:39 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: James wrote: Hello OLPC people! I am working on a Snakes and Ladders game for the XO, to help young children learn to count. You can find my first draft of the game here: http://olpc-dev.fuelindustries.com/snakes_080116.zip. I'm looking for help in getting Fedora 7 to run on a Sony Vaio PCG- GRT796HP laptop that used to run Windows. It's a Pentium 4, running at 2.67 GHz, with 512 MB of RAM. I've spent several hours trying various approaches and distributions, without success. This is my first excursion into Linux territory, and I'm still finding my feet with Python. I'm more at ease with development on Macintosh, and have only scraped the surface of using the Terminal. Please don't hesitate to spoonfeed me in all things Linux and Python. What I can do - I'd almost given up hope of getting the Vaio to run Fedora when I tried using the XO LiveCD from http://dev.laptop.org/pub/ livebackupcd. This worked perfectly, which encourages me to believe that the issue is not with the machine but with what I am doing to it. Where I get stuck - I've downloaded the F-7-i386-DVD.iso file from http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//Fedora-7-i386.torrent , and burnt it to a DVD-ROM. The initial menu screen appears. If I choose the default (graphic) installation, eventually the screen starts to display vibrant pulsing graphics which I do not believe are intended. If I choose the text mode for installation, and step through the various screens, I eventually run into a bug in the installer script. Rodney Smith entered a description of the bug into the RedHat bugbase on 2007-07-08, but there seems to have been no movement on it since then. This leads me to believe that there must be an obvious workaround, so others have just side-stepped the bug and moved on. The original bug report was marked as NEEDINFO, so I supplied that info on 2008-01-21. You can read the complete report here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=247399 First I assuume that you did a sucessfule media check. What I'm hoping to do - My aim is to install a version of Linux as close to the XO version as possible. This will make it easier for me to get into the correct mindset and best practices for developing for the XO. I'm not married to the idea of getting Fedora 7 to run if the line of least resistance is to install something similar. In his bug report, Rodney Smith notes that System previously had fc5 that was installed using a dvd and the graphical interface without a hitch and that ran fine. I've looked for a downloadable version of Fedora Core 5 or 6 for a x86 machine, but all the links that I have found end up at the Get Fedora page, which now limits itself to downloads of Fedora 7 and 8 http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora . I get a similar bug when I try installing Fedora 8. I've also tried installing Ubuntu 6, but run into the graphic-interface-shows-vibrant- pulsing-graphics issue. If it hadn't been for XO-LiveCD_080130.iso performing perfectly on the machine, I'd have written off my Sony Vaio as being incompatible with Linux. If anyone can help me get some version of Linux installed on the machine, I'd be most grateful. If there are any Python developers on this list in the Ottawa area, I'd be interested to hear from them too. Thanks in advance, James Second, I hope you did not do what the bug poster did, that is , allow the machine to set up a default partitioning. If you understand how fdisk works, at the point that patitioning is asked for, type ctl-alt-F2 which willget you to a termineal then remove all partitioning at partition from scratch. Have a swap partition = to 1 of 2x Ram size and the rest make into /. Then type ctl-alt-f7 to tqake you back to anaconda and continue. This is in tex installation. You cna then use the gui partitioning tool to make any final editing of the partitions. It may still fail to install but you have started out without mysterious partitioning problems which should help. -- === Darth Vader! Only you would be so bold! -- Princess Leia Organa === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
