Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:58 PM, James Cameron wrote: > No, the full reflash with fs-update should be no different. > > If the firmware is not automatically updating on boot, that's possibly > a problem with Q7B01, if not, it should be investigated further if you > see it again after update to Q7B07. > > It was the 444 that reminded me you have a firmware version that is > probably faulty. Sorry for not mentioning this in the mail - it is mentioned on the 13.1.0 wiki page though. This build enables automatic firmware upgrade, but those users who are on Q7B01 will need to manually upgrade due to a bug in that firmware version, already fixed for later ones. It also drops A2 support as mentioned, but everyone should have a B1 by now. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > Thanks > > Can you please fix my edit to the wiki > I am totally confused, all I know is that all my olpc-updates have > been with 2 power sources and I don't remember ever seeing it do a > OFW upgrade to be clear, olpc-updates occur while the machine is running. no firmware update will occur then. firmware updates happen when the machine is booting, and that's when two power sources are required. paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
Sure. You won't have seen an Open Firmware upgrade for two possible reasons: 1. automatic upgrades were turned off, even though the function is normally turned on, reason being preservation of the XO-4 A2 prototypes, 2. Q7B01 may have had a problem with automatic upgrade that has since been fixed. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:19:20AM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > Thanks > > Can you please fix my edit to the wiki > I am totally confused, all I know is that all my olpc-updates have been with > 2 power sources and I don't remember ever seeing it do a OFW upgrade > > > Not exactly wrong, but incomplete. > > > > olpc-update will potentially change /bootpart/boot/bootfw*.zip and as > > a consequence Open Firmware or olpc.fth may reflash to a later version > > of Open Firmware. > > > > I think you might change your wording on the Wiki page. > > > > There's also more than one firmware. There's Open Firmware, the > > touchscreen firmware, the embedded controller firmware, and the > > wireless firmware. ;-} > > > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:11:06AM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > > > So am I right in saying that olpc-update does not update OFW or is this > > > the result of some temporary disabling? > > > > > > I edited http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0#Online_upgrade with a note that > > > may not be correct. > > > > > > > As I understand it, the auto-firmware reflash process was temporarily > > > > disabled to avoid an issue with XO-4 A2 prototypes. > > > ___ > > > Devel mailing list > > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > > _ > > This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line > > see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning > -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
Thanks Can you please fix my edit to the wiki I am totally confused, all I know is that all my olpc-updates have been with 2 power sources and I don't remember ever seeing it do a OFW upgrade > Not exactly wrong, but incomplete. > > olpc-update will potentially change /bootpart/boot/bootfw*.zip and as > a consequence Open Firmware or olpc.fth may reflash to a later version > of Open Firmware. > > I think you might change your wording on the Wiki page. > > There's also more than one firmware. There's Open Firmware, the > touchscreen firmware, the embedded controller firmware, and the > wireless firmware. ;-} > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:11:06AM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > > So am I right in saying that olpc-update does not update OFW or is this the > > result of some temporary disabling? > > > > I edited http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0#Online_upgrade with a note that > > may not be correct. > > > > > As I understand it, the auto-firmware reflash process was temporarily > > > disabled to avoid an issue with XO-4 A2 prototypes. > > ___ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel@lists.laptop.org > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > _ > This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line > see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
Not exactly wrong, but incomplete. olpc-update will potentially change /bootpart/boot/bootfw*.zip and as a consequence Open Firmware or olpc.fth may reflash to a later version of Open Firmware. I think you might change your wording on the Wiki page. There's also more than one firmware. There's Open Firmware, the touchscreen firmware, the embedded controller firmware, and the wireless firmware. ;-} On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:11:06AM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > So am I right in saying that olpc-update does not update OFW or is this the > result of some temporary disabling? > > I edited http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0#Online_upgrade with a note that may > not be correct. > > > As I understand it, the auto-firmware reflash process was temporarily > > disabled to avoid an issue with XO-4 A2 prototypes. > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 03:59:43PM -0800, Hal Murray wrote: > > w...@laptop.org said: > > More importantly, occasionally boot with two sources of power (battery and > > DC). Q7B01 should have been replaced automatically a number of builds ago. > > What chunk of code does the update? Could it display a reminder for a few > seconds if there is new code that hasn't been applied yet? Triggered by /bootpart/boot/olpc.fth for unsigned builds, or built into Open Firmware for signed builds. The code reads the bootfw*.zip file and checks for whether it should update. It can be found in security.fth in the Open Firmware source. It can display a battery icon as a reminder. To see what this looks like, type show-no-power at the ok prompt. If this isn't happening when it should, then there's a problem. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
So am I right in saying that olpc-update does not update OFW or is this the result of some temporary disabling? I edited http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0#Online_upgrade with a note that may not be correct. > As I understand it, the auto-firmware reflash process was temporarily > disabled to avoid an issue with XO-4 A2 prototypes. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
The update is done by olpc.fth if the XO is not secured, and we just re-enabled the ability to do this on XO-4 in os12.A battery/power icon will appear if the XO is running without external power and the firmware cannot be safely updated. As I understand it, the auto-firmware reflash process was temporarily disabled to avoid an issue with XO-4 A2 prototypes. Re-enabling the reflash process means we can no longer support these early prototypes going forward. Very few people outside of OLPC likely have XO-4 A2 units. --- SJG On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > w...@laptop.org said: > > More importantly, occasionally boot with two sources of power (battery > and > > DC). Q7B01 should have been replaced automatically a number of builds > ago. > > What chunk of code does the update? Could it display a reminder for a few > seconds if there is new code that hasn't been applied yet? > > > -- > These are my opinions. I hate spam. > > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
w...@laptop.org said: > More importantly, occasionally boot with two sources of power (battery and > DC). Q7B01 should have been replaced automatically a number of builds ago. What chunk of code does the update? Could it display a reminder for a few seconds if there is new code that hasn't been applied yet? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
No, the full reflash with fs-update should be no different. If the firmware is not automatically updating on boot, that's possibly a problem with Q7B01, if not, it should be investigated further if you see it again after update to Q7B07. It was the 444 that reminded me you have a firmware version that is probably faulty. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:48:20AM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > John > I think the problem is that olpc-update does not update the firmware, all > updates have been with 2 sources of power, so the lesson is to occasionally > do the full reflash (which uses a lot of bandwidth) or manually update the OFW > Tony > > > More importantly, occasionally boot with two sources of power (battery and > > DC). > > Q7B01 should have been replaced automatically a number of builds ago. > -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
John I think the problem is that olpc-update does not update the firmware, all updates have been with 2 sources of power, so the lesson is to occasionally do the full reflash (which uses a lot of bandwidth) or manually update the OFW Tony > More importantly, occasionally boot with two sources of power (battery and > DC). > Q7B01 should have been replaced automatically a number of builds ago. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
More importantly, occasionally boot with two sources of power (battery and DC). Q7B01 should have been replaced automatically a number of builds ago. On Nov 16, 2012, at 6:16 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: >> What version of Open Firmware? > > Q7B01 > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:16:55AM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > > What version of Open Firmware? > > Q7B01 Thanks, please try Q7B07. http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q7b07/q7b07.rom -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
> What version of Open Firmware? Q7B01 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
What version of Open Firmware? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
Hi Further information on the failed olpc-update booting holding tick game key trying last boot\4.zip trying last boot\44.zip trying last boot\run444.zip ok > A new 13.1.0 development build is available. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0 > http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os12 > > Changes: > - Recent XO-4 suspend/resume work and misc fixes > - yum doesn't complain about GPG keys any more (#12164) > - GNOME shuts down quickly again (#12210) > - XO-4 should reliably make all disk space available now (#12150) > - etoys usage of "gzip --rsyncable" should be fixed (#12223) > - A couple of activity updates > > Build 13 might also be quietly published tonight, for XO-4 only, just > with one change: some kernel fixes aimed at helping our team who are > currently at the factory preparing the C1 prototype build. > > Thanks for any testing and feedback! > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > _ > This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line > see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
Hi I did olpc-update on XO-4 and now it boots to the OFW OK prompt Tony > A new 13.1.0 development build is available. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0 > http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os12 > > Changes: > - Recent XO-4 suspend/resume work and misc fixes > - yum doesn't complain about GPG keys any more (#12164) > - GNOME shuts down quickly again (#12210) > - XO-4 should reliably make all disk space available now (#12150) > - etoys usage of "gzip --rsyncable" should be fixed (#12223) > - A couple of activity updates > > Build 13 might also be quietly published tonight, for XO-4 only, just > with one change: some kernel fixes aimed at helping our team who are > currently at the factory preparing the C1 prototype build. > > Thanks for any testing and feedback! > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > _ > This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line > see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
13.1.0 development build 12 released
A new 13.1.0 development build is available. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os12 Changes: - Recent XO-4 suspend/resume work and misc fixes - yum doesn't complain about GPG keys any more (#12164) - GNOME shuts down quickly again (#12210) - XO-4 should reliably make all disk space available now (#12150) - etoys usage of "gzip --rsyncable" should be fixed (#12223) - A couple of activity updates Build 13 might also be quietly published tonight, for XO-4 only, just with one change: some kernel fixes aimed at helping our team who are currently at the factory preparing the C1 prototype build. Thanks for any testing and feedback! Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
