Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria

2007-11-28 Thread Andi
nick knouf schrieb:
 I don't know Nigerian reverse-engineering laws so I don't know if the  
 case has any merit, but is there any word about how this will affect  
 the XO in Nigeria?

DEAR MR. KNOUF,

MY NAME IS KING OYEGBOLA. I COME FROM NIGERIA AND INVENTED THE THIRD
AND FOURTH SHIFT KEY FOR COMPUTER KEYBOARDS.
THOSE LET THE PEOPLE OF MY COUNTRY TYPE IN THE LETTERS OF THEIR DIALECTS.
NOW THE REBELS AROUND LEADER NEGROPONTE STOLE MY IDEAS AND TRY TO
ACHIEVE WORLD DOMINANCE USING MY INVENTION.
THEREFORE I ASK FOR YOUR HELP IN FIGHTING THE REBELS AND HELP ME AND
MY FAMILY OUT OF THIS MESS.
TO FINANCE OUT LAWYERS WE HAVE TO TRANSFER 100.000.000$ TO THE U.S.

YOU SEEM TO BE THE PERFECT PERSON FOR THIS TASK.
20% OF THE SUM ARE YOURS, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO HELP.
WRITE A MAIL TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

NIGERIA WILL THANK YOU!

REGARDS,
KING OYEGBOLA
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Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria

2007-11-28 Thread Don Hopkins

I wrote KING OYEGBOLA and he called me back immediately.
He says he is running a program called Bribe One, Get One.
For the price of bribing two government officials, I can have one United 
States government official in my own pocket, and a government official 
in an impoverished developing country will be bribed as well.

Plus, it is totally tax deductible!
I have sent him a forklift full of money, which I'm shipping with a 
specially designed Haliburton Money Forklift, surplus from Iraq.
I'll let you know when I receive the private phone numbers and 
embarrassing incriminating pictures of the government officials I'm 
sponsoring.


   -Don


Andi wrote:

nick knouf schrieb:
  
I don't know Nigerian reverse-engineering laws so I don't know if the  
case has any merit, but is there any word about how this will affect  
the XO in Nigeria?



DEAR MR. KNOUF,

MY NAME IS KING OYEGBOLA. I COME FROM NIGERIA AND INVENTED THE THIRD
AND FOURTH SHIFT KEY FOR COMPUTER KEYBOARDS.
THOSE LET THE PEOPLE OF MY COUNTRY TYPE IN THE LETTERS OF THEIR DIALECTS.
NOW THE REBELS AROUND LEADER NEGROPONTE STOLE MY IDEAS AND TRY TO
ACHIEVE WORLD DOMINANCE USING MY INVENTION.
THEREFORE I ASK FOR YOUR HELP IN FIGHTING THE REBELS AND HELP ME AND
MY FAMILY OUT OF THIS MESS.
TO FINANCE OUT LAWYERS WE HAVE TO TRANSFER 100.000.000$ TO THE U.S.

YOU SEEM TO BE THE PERFECT PERSON FOR THIS TASK.
20% OF THE SUM ARE YOURS, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO HELP.
WRITE A MAIL TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

NIGERIA WILL THANK YOU!

REGARDS,
KING OYEGBOLA
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Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria

2007-11-28 Thread Jeff Keller
On 11/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I imagine that if the XO is in violation, a lot of other products
 (hardware and software) are also in violation.  Shift keys are modifiers,
 yes - they help you make Big Letters.  The case sounds fairly ridiculous;
 folks've had some form of AltGr, or Meta, or Mode key since... vt100
 terminals?  A blasted long time.

I haven't looked followed the links (the whole thing sounds frivolous
to me, and not about technology), but for prior art one could do worse
than the Space Cadet keyboard, used with Lisp Machines at least as
early as 1980:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard
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Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria

2007-11-27 Thread José Antonio
There is no intelectual property.

Patents and copyright are just monopoly granted by state. Period.

As any monopoly, this kind of monopoly cause damages to society.

Why Exxon and AtT can't do monopoly, and Micorsoft and Warner can?

On Nov 27, 2007 5:08 PM, nick knouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just saw a link to this today, about a patent infringement lawsuit
 filed in Nigeria against OLPC:

 http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=796745

  From the article:

 'LANCOR's lawsuit alleges that OLPC purchased two KONYIN Multilingual
 Keyboard models (KONYIN Nigeria Multilingual Keyboard and KONYIN
 United States Multilingual Keyboard) with the express purpose of
 illegally reverse engineering the source codes for use in OLPC's XO
 Laptops. The willful infringement of our client's intellectual
 property is so blatant and self-evident in the OLPC's XO Laptops,
 said Solicitor Ade Adedeji, we will have no problem establishing the
 facts of our client's case against OLPC in any court of law.'

 I don't know Nigerian reverse-engineering laws so I don't know if the
 case has any merit, but is there any word about how this will affect
 the XO in Nigeria?

 nick
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Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria

2007-11-27 Thread Richard Dobson
José Antonio wrote:
 There is no intelectual property.
 
 Patents and copyright are just monopoly granted by state. Period.
 
 As any monopoly, this kind of monopoly cause damages to society.
 
 Why Exxon and AtT can't do monopoly, and Micorsoft and Warner can?
 


In any case, I can't see what their case is. Their product (as clearly 
presented on their web site) uses two pairs of shift keys, left and 
right sides of the keyboard, to access multiple extra characters. The XO 
does not do this, as far as I can see.

Richard Dobson

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Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria

2007-11-27 Thread Gerard J. Cerchio
Call me too wary, but discussing these things in the open on the 
developer's list may
provide information that lawyers may further find as fodder.

nick knouf wrote:
 On Nov 27, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Richard Dobson wrote:
   
 José Antonio wrote:
 
 There is no intelectual property.

 Patents and copyright are just monopoly granted by state. Period.

 As any monopoly, this kind of monopoly cause damages to society.

 Why Exxon and AtT can't do monopoly, and Micorsoft and Warner can?
   

 I definitely agree with you; unfortunately there are lawyers that can  
 make one's life very difficult because of these existing laws...

   
 In any case, I can't see what their case is. Their product (as clearly
 presented on their web site) uses two pairs of shift keys, left and
 right sides of the keyboard, to access multiple extra characters.  
 The XO
 does not do this, as far as I can see.
 

  From my reading of the press release, it seems as if they are  
 claiming infringement in drivers that come with the XO; that the XO  
 contains code that interfaces with their proprietary keyboard  
 design.  I don't know enough about the product to know if their extra  
 shift keys are simply coded as extra modifier keys, which would seem  
 to make their claim of intellectual property quite shaky indeed.   
 Even so, any case, if it were to go to trial, would likely be  
 draining in terms of financial resources for OLPC, not to mention the  
 potential for bad press.

 nick
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Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria

2007-11-27 Thread elw

 Subject: Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
 
 Call me too wary, but discussing these things in the open on the 
 developer's list may provide information that lawyers may further find 
 as fodder.


I imagine that if the XO is in violation, a lot of other products 
(hardware and software) are also in violation.  Shift keys are modifiers, 
yes - they help you make Big Letters.  The case sounds fairly ridiculous; 
folks've had some form of AltGr, or Meta, or Mode key since... vt100 
terminals?  A blasted long time.

I also imagine that the folks who might be able to clear this up quickly 
and swiftly (for us) are constrained from saying much about it on the 
lists - their facts need to get funneled back through legal counsel, so 
that folks opining don't get interpreted as speaking for the project as a 
whole.

--elijah


 In any case, I can't see what their case is. Their product (as clearly 
 presented on their web site) uses two pairs of shift keys, left and 
 right sides of the keyboard, to access multiple extra characters. The 
 XO does not do this, as far as I can see.

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Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria

2007-11-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
Fascinating...

This business is run out of a house just 19 miles from OLPC.

1 Timber Lane, Natick, MA, 01760, USA
phone 339-987-9249, fax 508-647-4702

Any guesses why he didn't just file in Massachusetts?
I'm thinking that money in the right hands could get you
a pre-dated patent or an easy win in court. We've already
seen a bit of bribery being used to stop OLPC.

I wonder if this lawsuit might be related to any others.
For example, this one against Red Hat was oddly predicted:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071011205044141

Adé Oyegbola probably has an interesting tale he'd like to tell.
Maybe somebody friendly should get to know him.
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