Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
It is a Nigerian design patent. A. Nigerian patents apply only in Nigeria. B. Design patents don't cover technology. C. The patent is not accessible. D. Prior art. E. /. nick knouf wrote: > Just saw a link to this today, about a patent infringement lawsuit > filed in Nigeria against OLPC: > > http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=796745 > > From the article: > > 'LANCOR's lawsuit alleges that OLPC purchased two KONYIN Multilingual > Keyboard models (KONYIN Nigeria Multilingual Keyboard and KONYIN > United States Multilingual Keyboard) with the express purpose of > illegally reverse engineering the source codes for use in OLPC's XO > Laptops. "The willful infringement of our client's intellectual > property is so blatant and self-evident in the OLPC's XO Laptops," > said Solicitor Ade Adedeji, "we will have no problem establishing the > facts of our client's case against OLPC in any court of law."' > > I don't know Nigerian reverse-engineering laws so I don't know if the > case has any merit, but is there any word about how this will affect > the XO in Nigeria? > > nick ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
Jeff Keller wrote: On 11/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I imagine that if the XO is in violation, a lot of other products (hardware and software) are also in violation. Shift keys are modifiers, yes - they help you make Big Letters. The case sounds fairly ridiculous; folks've had some form of AltGr, or Meta, or Mode key since... vt100 terminals? A blasted long time. I haven't looked followed the links (the whole thing sounds frivolous to me, and not about technology), but for prior art one could do worse than the Space Cadet keyboard, used with Lisp Machines at least as early as 1980: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard Here's some prior art from 1978: Double Bucky (Sung to the tune of "Rubber Duckie") Double bucky, you're the one! You make my keyboard lots of fun Double bucky, an additional bit or two: (Vo-vo-de-o!) Control and Meta side by side, Augmented ASCII, nine bits wide! Double bucky, a half a thousand glyphs, plus a few! Double bucky, left and right OR'd together, outta sight! Double bucky, I'd like a whole word of Double bucky, I'm happy I heard of Double bucky, I'd like a whole word of you! -- (C) 1978 by Guy L. Steele, Jr. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
On 11/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I imagine that if the XO is in violation, a lot of other products > (hardware and software) are also in violation. Shift keys are modifiers, > yes - they help you make Big Letters. The case sounds fairly ridiculous; > folks've had some form of AltGr, or Meta, or Mode key since... vt100 > terminals? A blasted long time. I haven't looked followed the links (the whole thing sounds frivolous to me, and not about technology), but for prior art one could do worse than the Space Cadet keyboard, used with Lisp Machines at least as early as 1980: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
I wrote KING OYEGBOLA and he called me back immediately. He says he is running a program called "Bribe One, Get One". For the price of bribing two government officials, I can have one United States government official in my own pocket, and a government official in an impoverished developing country will be bribed as well. Plus, it is totally tax deductible! I have sent him a forklift full of money, which I'm shipping with a specially designed Haliburton Money Forklift, surplus from Iraq. I'll let you know when I receive the private phone numbers and embarrassing incriminating pictures of the government officials I'm sponsoring. -Don Andi wrote: nick knouf schrieb: I don't know Nigerian reverse-engineering laws so I don't know if the case has any merit, but is there any word about how this will affect the XO in Nigeria? DEAR MR. KNOUF, MY NAME IS KING OYEGBOLA. I COME FROM NIGERIA AND INVENTED THE THIRD AND FOURTH SHIFT KEY FOR COMPUTER KEYBOARDS. THOSE LET THE PEOPLE OF MY COUNTRY TYPE IN THE LETTERS OF THEIR DIALECTS. NOW THE REBELS AROUND LEADER NEGROPONTE STOLE MY IDEAS AND TRY TO ACHIEVE WORLD DOMINANCE USING MY INVENTION. THEREFORE I ASK FOR YOUR HELP IN FIGHTING THE REBELS AND HELP ME AND MY FAMILY OUT OF THIS MESS. TO FINANCE OUT LAWYERS WE HAVE TO TRANSFER 100.000.000$ TO THE U.S. YOU SEEM TO BE THE PERFECT PERSON FOR THIS TASK. 20% OF THE SUM ARE YOURS, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO HELP. WRITE A MAIL TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NIGERIA WILL THANK YOU! REGARDS, KING OYEGBOLA ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
Well played, Andi, well played. On to serious matters, this so-called patent infringement seems frivolous and wouldn't as far as I see hold up in court. And if it would, the Nigerian children will know whom to thank for not getting the XO laptops. -Ivo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
nick knouf schrieb: > I don't know Nigerian reverse-engineering laws so I don't know if the > case has any merit, but is there any word about how this will affect > the XO in Nigeria? DEAR MR. KNOUF, MY NAME IS KING OYEGBOLA. I COME FROM NIGERIA AND INVENTED THE THIRD AND FOURTH SHIFT KEY FOR COMPUTER KEYBOARDS. THOSE LET THE PEOPLE OF MY COUNTRY TYPE IN THE LETTERS OF THEIR DIALECTS. NOW THE REBELS AROUND LEADER NEGROPONTE STOLE MY IDEAS AND TRY TO ACHIEVE WORLD DOMINANCE USING MY INVENTION. THEREFORE I ASK FOR YOUR HELP IN FIGHTING THE REBELS AND HELP ME AND MY FAMILY OUT OF THIS MESS. TO FINANCE OUT LAWYERS WE HAVE TO TRANSFER 100.000.000$ TO THE U.S. YOU SEEM TO BE THE PERFECT PERSON FOR THIS TASK. 20% OF THE SUM ARE YOURS, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO HELP. WRITE A MAIL TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NIGERIA WILL THANK YOU! REGARDS, KING OYEGBOLA ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
Fascinating... This business is run out of a house just 19 miles from OLPC. 1 Timber Lane, Natick, MA, 01760, USA phone 339-987-9249, fax 508-647-4702 Any guesses why he didn't just file in Massachusetts? I'm thinking that money in the right hands could get you a pre-dated patent or an easy win in court. We've already seen a bit of bribery being used to stop OLPC. I wonder if this lawsuit might be related to any others. For example, this one against Red Hat was oddly predicted: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071011205044141 Adé Oyegbola probably has an interesting tale he'd like to tell. Maybe somebody friendly should get to know him. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
> Subject: Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria > > Call me too wary, but discussing these things in the open on the > developer's list may provide information that lawyers may further find > as fodder. I imagine that if the XO is in violation, a lot of other products (hardware and software) are also in violation. Shift keys are modifiers, yes - they help you make Big Letters. The case sounds fairly ridiculous; folks've had some form of AltGr, or Meta, or Mode key since... vt100 terminals? A blasted long time. I also imagine that the folks who might be able to clear this up quickly and swiftly (for us) are constrained from saying much about it on the lists - their facts need to get funneled back through legal counsel, so that folks opining don't get interpreted as speaking for the project as a whole. --elijah >>> In any case, I can't see what their case is. Their product (as clearly >>> presented on their web site) uses two pairs of shift keys, left and >>> right sides of the keyboard, to access multiple extra characters. The >>> XO does not do this, as far as I can see. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
Call me too wary, but discussing these things in the open on the developer's list may provide information that lawyers may further find as fodder. nick knouf wrote: > On Nov 27, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Richard Dobson wrote: > >> José Antonio wrote: >> >>> There is no "intelectual property". >>> >>> Patents and copyright are just monopoly granted by state. Period. >>> >>> As any monopoly, this kind of monopoly cause damages to society. >>> >>> Why Exxon and At&T can't do monopoly, and Micorsoft and Warner can? >>> > > I definitely agree with you; unfortunately there are lawyers that can > make one's life very difficult because of these existing laws... > > >> In any case, I can't see what their case is. Their product (as clearly >> presented on their web site) uses two pairs of shift keys, left and >> right sides of the keyboard, to access multiple extra characters. >> The XO >> does not do this, as far as I can see. >> > > From my reading of the press release, it seems as if they are > claiming infringement in drivers that come with the XO; that the XO > contains code that interfaces with their proprietary keyboard > design. I don't know enough about the product to know if their extra > shift keys are simply coded as extra modifier keys, which would seem > to make their claim of "intellectual property" quite shaky indeed. > Even so, any case, if it were to go to trial, would likely be > draining in terms of financial resources for OLPC, not to mention the > potential for bad press. > > nick > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > > > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
On Nov 27, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Richard Dobson wrote: > José Antonio wrote: >> There is no "intelectual property". >> >> Patents and copyright are just monopoly granted by state. Period. >> >> As any monopoly, this kind of monopoly cause damages to society. >> >> Why Exxon and At&T can't do monopoly, and Micorsoft and Warner can? I definitely agree with you; unfortunately there are lawyers that can make one's life very difficult because of these existing laws... > In any case, I can't see what their case is. Their product (as clearly > presented on their web site) uses two pairs of shift keys, left and > right sides of the keyboard, to access multiple extra characters. > The XO > does not do this, as far as I can see. From my reading of the press release, it seems as if they are claiming infringement in drivers that come with the XO; that the XO contains code that interfaces with their proprietary keyboard design. I don't know enough about the product to know if their extra shift keys are simply coded as extra modifier keys, which would seem to make their claim of "intellectual property" quite shaky indeed. Even so, any case, if it were to go to trial, would likely be draining in terms of financial resources for OLPC, not to mention the potential for bad press. nick ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
José Antonio wrote: > There is no "intelectual property". > > Patents and copyright are just monopoly granted by state. Period. > > As any monopoly, this kind of monopoly cause damages to society. > > Why Exxon and At&T can't do monopoly, and Micorsoft and Warner can? > In any case, I can't see what their case is. Their product (as clearly presented on their web site) uses two pairs of shift keys, left and right sides of the keyboard, to access multiple extra characters. The XO does not do this, as far as I can see. Richard Dobson ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patent infringement lawsuit against OLPC in Nigeria
There is no "intelectual property". Patents and copyright are just monopoly granted by state. Period. As any monopoly, this kind of monopoly cause damages to society. Why Exxon and At&T can't do monopoly, and Micorsoft and Warner can? On Nov 27, 2007 5:08 PM, nick knouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just saw a link to this today, about a patent infringement lawsuit > filed in Nigeria against OLPC: > > http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=796745 > > From the article: > > 'LANCOR's lawsuit alleges that OLPC purchased two KONYIN Multilingual > Keyboard models (KONYIN Nigeria Multilingual Keyboard and KONYIN > United States Multilingual Keyboard) with the express purpose of > illegally reverse engineering the source codes for use in OLPC's XO > Laptops. "The willful infringement of our client's intellectual > property is so blatant and self-evident in the OLPC's XO Laptops," > said Solicitor Ade Adedeji, "we will have no problem establishing the > facts of our client's case against OLPC in any court of law."' > > I don't know Nigerian reverse-engineering laws so I don't know if the > case has any merit, but is there any word about how this will affect > the XO in Nigeria? > > nick > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- nome: "José Antonio Meira da Rocha" tratamento: "Prof. MS." atividade: "Pesquisa e aprendizado em mídias digitais" googletalk: email: MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 658222 Skype: "meiradarocha_jor" veículos: [ http://meiradarocha.jor.br http://olpcitizen.blogspot.com ] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
