Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?
> For the record, I consider Dan to have spoken authoritatively on this > matter. As he says, the best things that you can do now are to > demonstrate that the newer gnash can safely be deployed either via 'yum > update', via 'olpc-update', or by providing a custom installation script Our release of 0.8.4 just went out. I'm running it on a G1G1, and it works fine, when compared to any other machine I've tested on. You can grab the source tarball from http://www.getgnash.org. Good luck... :-) - rob - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 01:57:57PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote: >On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You really do not get it do you!! The basic functionality should be >> provided by OLPC with a build of gnash optimized for the Geode. > >I should note that I'm a bit out of touch from the current state of >8.2 development, so don't treat my words as authorative. For the record, I consider Dan to have spoken authoritatively on this matter. As he says, the best things that you can do now are to demonstrate that the newer gnash can safely be deployed either via 'yum update', via 'olpc-update', or by providing a custom installation script tailored for XOs. Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I should note that I'm a bit out of touch from the current state of > 8.2 development, so don't treat my words as authorative. I'll attempt to be a bit less useless: if you really feel that the gnash upgrade is really significant, and worth delaying G1G1 mass production for, then my suggestion would be to mail Michael Stone, the 8.2 release manager. He's the person who can provide a definite answer. Use a subject line like "please delay 8.2 for new gnash release," point him to these discussions, make a clear succinct argument for the benefits of the upgrade (which sites now work? how much faster is it? etc), and (if possible) explain why this would be a low risk change, with no danger of introducing regressions. Also be clear to offer any assistance that you can provide - RPMs, testing help, offers to run the smoke test, etc. Thanks, Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You really do not get it do you!! The basic functionality should be > provided by OLPC with a build of gnash optimized for the Geode. I'm glad to hear that 0.8.4 will result in a significantly better experience for XO users - all the more reason to see it championed for 8.2.1. If you are interested, my suggestions for the next steps are: - file a redhat bug to get it included in F9/F10 - the outcome should be some RPMs which we can test in OLPC; put out a request to thislist for testers - file a trac bug for inclusion in joyride - write a mail to this list, championing for an 8.2.1 release Perhaps I can help you on that as of next week. Rest assured that had 0.8.4 come out and passed Fedora or our own QA when active 8.2 development was happening, I would have seen it into 8.2 in an instant. In fact, I spent quite a bit of time working with Gnash this summer: I tested various sites reported to fail with the version of Gnash we shipped in 8.1, reported improvements for most of them, I fixed a bug in the linking setup which was causing gnash to be totally non-functional in browse (patch was contributed and accepted upstream), and I rebuilt it a couple of times to fix fallout with other system components. I never recommended the Adobe option to anybody. I feel guilty that gnash was neglected in the 8.1 days (new snapshots ignored even when active development was happening) so I did my bit to help for 8.2. In this case, OLPC has a communicated time-based release cycle, and the time when we would have readily put changes like this in 8.2 finished weeks ago. I'm sad that we probably won't ship gnash-0.8.4, I'm also upset that we have to ship such an old gstreamer, same for evince, and it's a shame we won't be shipping the fastboot improvements in Linux 2.6.28, etc. That's just how it has to work when you are working to provide a stable release on a schedule. Some sacrifices have to be made. I should note that I'm a bit out of touch from the current state of 8.2 development, so don't treat my words as authorative. Just wanted to make sure these mails don't go unanswered - it's great to see more people caring about gnash. Thanks, Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?
On Oct 13, 2008, at 8:46 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robert Howard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Btu end users could install them and have them work if gnash 0.8.4 >> was >> available. > > If end-users have to drop to a command line and do something, which I > assume they do for the above, then it will not be hard for someone > like you to offer a package for gnash 0.8.4 for them to install at the > same time. You really do not get it do you!! The basic functionality should be provided by OLPC with a build of gnash optimized for the Geode. There has been demand for this from deployments and you have ignored this fact. G1G1 users have been wanting this for a long time. The new G1G1 V2 users are going to be annoyed with this lack of support. An additional data point is that Adobes flash support on Linux is not optimized for the Geode and is in general not great on the XO and is not simple to install.. > > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robert Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Btu end users could install them and have them work if gnash 0.8.4 was > available. If end-users have to drop to a command line and do something, which I assume they do for the above, then it will not be hard for someone like you to offer a package for gnash 0.8.4 for them to install at the same time. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?
On Oct 13, 2008, at 6:59 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On 10/12/08, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hey OLPC team. >> >> No, really, is there any chance OLPC can ship Gnash 0.8.4 with XO OS >> final 8.2.0? > > Very doubtful.. this Gnash release is several weeks too late to meet > 8.2.0. We froze things quite a while ago. > > My suggestion would be to find websites that work better in Gnash > 0.8.4, then propose an 8.2.1 release including the upgrade: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/8.2.1 > >> It wouldn't hurt for you to include this snapshot in your release >> as a >> gnash 0.8.4-rc1. It WOULD hurt for you to include 0.8.3 because it >> doesn't play YouTube. Unless we find a strong reason not to, >> we'll do >> a release tomorrow (about 28 hours from now). > > I don't think we will play YouTube, regardless of whether 0.8.3 or > 0.8.4 is shipped in 8.2.x. We don't ship the youtube-required > proprietary codecs. Btu end users could install them and have them work if gnash 0.8.4 was available. > > Daniel > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?
On 10/12/08, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey OLPC team. > > No, really, is there any chance OLPC can ship Gnash 0.8.4 with XO OS > final 8.2.0? Very doubtful.. this Gnash release is several weeks too late to meet 8.2.0. We froze things quite a while ago. My suggestion would be to find websites that work better in Gnash 0.8.4, then propose an 8.2.1 release including the upgrade: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/8.2.1 > It wouldn't hurt for you to include this snapshot in your release as a > gnash 0.8.4-rc1. It WOULD hurt for you to include 0.8.3 because it > doesn't play YouTube. Unless we find a strong reason not to, we'll do > a release tomorrow (about 28 hours from now). I don't think we will play YouTube, regardless of whether 0.8.3 or 0.8.4 is shipped in 8.2.x. We don't ship the youtube-required proprietary codecs. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Fwd: ship Gnash 0.8.4 RC1 in OLPC 8.2.0?
Hey OLPC team. No, really, is there any chance OLPC can ship Gnash 0.8.4 with XO OS final 8.2.0? I tend to agree with Russ, It'll hurt more to ship Gnash 0.8.3 with 8.2.0 than Gnash 0.8.4 RC1. Latest Gnash trunk is at http://gnashdev.org/dev_snapshots/gnash-trunk-9980.tar.tgz and it'll go final from RC in a few hours. Given the amount of Flash/Gnash support inquiries there are, maybe it's worth it to try to get latest Gnash in there (with a possible 1-2 day delay) before shipping? Message from Russ below. -Naz -- Forwarded message -- From: Russ Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/10/12 Subject: [OLPC-Philippines] forwarded message from Russ Nelson It wouldn't hurt for you to include this snapshot in your release as a gnash 0.8.4-rc1. It WOULD hurt for you to include 0.8.3 because it doesn't play YouTube. Unless we find a strong reason not to, we'll do a release tomorrow (about 28 hours from now). -- Forwarded message -- From: "Russ Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11 Oct 2008 18:59:22 +0200 Subject: [Gnash-dev] Gnash 0.8.4 expected within days. We're expecting to do a new release of Gnash within a couple of days. Please fetch and compile http://gnashdev.org/dev_snapshots/gnash-trunk-9980.tar.tgz ">gnash-trunk-9980 as it is very likely to be the release. ___ Gnash-dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnash-dev -- Carlos Nazareno http://www.object404.com interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
