Re: [SailfishDevel] Using Clipboard object

[marko . koschak]

Great, thanks for pointing me into this.

Maybe the Sailfish Silica reference should mention it or give a short epample ;)

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On 19.12.13 01:59 Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:

Clipboard is global object. You dont need to create it, just use it.
check /usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/plugins.qmltypes


On 19.12.2013 02:41, Marko Koschak wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am just wondering how it is possible to copy text into the system
> clipboard by means of the Clipboard object (as described in the Silica
> reference)? When I try something like shown below I get the error:
> [W] unknown:291 -
> file:///opt/sdk/ownKeepass/usr/share/harbour-ownkeepass/cover/CoverPage.qml:291:5:
>  Element is not creatable.
> Clipboard {
>
> Is this feature simply not implemented or am I missing something?
>
> Background: I want to copy some text of a keepass entry into clipboard
> within the cover page using the swipe gesture on the cover.
>
> Thanks,
> Marko
>
> ---
>
> import QtQuick 2.0
> import Sailfish.Silica 1.0
>
> CoverBackground {
> id: coverPage
>
> function copyToClipboard() {
> systemClipboard.text = "some text"
> }
>
> Clipboard {
> id: systemClipboard
> }
> }
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Re: [SailfishDevel] qca-qt5 for Jolla phone

[Andrey Kozhevnikov]

qt5 have good QCryptographicHash classes. Why you need QCA?
On 19.12.2013 13:37, Denis Zalevskiy wrote:

Hi Ruediger,

On 12/17/2013 11:16 PM, Ruediger Gad wrote:

Hi,

as far as I can see, qca-qt5 is not available in the pre-installed
repositories of the Jolla phone.
So, my questions are:
- Is it planned to make it available (qca-qt5 is already in
nemo:devel:mw on Mer OBS.)?
If this package is in the Nemo already, it should be available soon 
(some upcoming winter update) in Sailfish with some upcoming update. 
Ask lbt on irc@freenode #mer about approx. estimations.

- What would be the process to make it available and how long would it
roughly take?
   I filed the PR on github that added the packaging for the actual qt5
version and would be willing to help here if I can.
- Are there alternatives to adding qca-qt5 to the pre-installed
repositories in order to allow apps on Harbour to use it as dependency?
Now you can just package it with your application. Sometime later it 
has a big chance to appear in the list of officially supported 
packages if API will be considered stable enough to be supported.


- denis


Background:
My app MeePasswords requires qca-qt5.
So far, I succeeded in building it in the SDK and successfully ran it on
my device (I manually added the qca-qt5 dependency via zypper.).
The biggest problem right now is the qca-qt5 dependency.

I'd be very happy if it was possible to get MeePasswords into the 
Harbour.




Thanks and best regards,

Ruediger






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Re: [SailfishDevel] qca-qt5 for Jolla phone

[Ruediger Gad]

I use it for en-/decryption.

On 12/19/2013 10:12 AM, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
> qt5 have good QCryptographicHash classes. Why you need QCA?
> On 19.12.2013 13:37, Denis Zalevskiy wrote:
>> Hi Ruediger,
>>
>> On 12/17/2013 11:16 PM, Ruediger Gad wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> as far as I can see, qca-qt5 is not available in the pre-installed
>>> repositories of the Jolla phone.
>>> So, my questions are:
>>> - Is it planned to make it available (qca-qt5 is already in
>>> nemo:devel:mw on Mer OBS.)?
>> If this package is in the Nemo already, it should be available soon
>> (some upcoming winter update) in Sailfish with some upcoming update.
>> Ask lbt on irc@freenode #mer about approx. estimations.
>>> - What would be the process to make it available and how long would it
>>> roughly take?
>>>I filed the PR on github that added the packaging for the actual qt5
>>> version and would be willing to help here if I can.
>>> - Are there alternatives to adding qca-qt5 to the pre-installed
>>> repositories in order to allow apps on Harbour to use it as dependency?
>> Now you can just package it with your application. Sometime later it
>> has a big chance to appear in the list of officially supported
>> packages if API will be considered stable enough to be supported.
>>
>> - denis
>>
>>> Background:
>>> My app MeePasswords requires qca-qt5.
>>> So far, I succeeded in building it in the SDK and successfully ran it on
>>> my device (I manually added the qca-qt5 dependency via zypper.).
>>> The biggest problem right now is the qca-qt5 dependency.
>>>
>>> I'd be very happy if it was possible to get MeePasswords into the
>>> Harbour.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>>
>>> Ruediger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] qca-qt5 for Jolla phone

[Ruediger Gad]

Hi Denis,

thanks for the info and the hint to the (hopefully temporary ;)) workaround.



BR

Ruediger




On 12/19/2013 08:37 AM, Denis Zalevskiy wrote:
> Hi Ruediger,
> 
> On 12/17/2013 11:16 PM, Ruediger Gad wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> as far as I can see, qca-qt5 is not available in the pre-installed
>> repositories of the Jolla phone.
>> So, my questions are:
>> - Is it planned to make it available (qca-qt5 is already in
>> nemo:devel:mw on Mer OBS.)?
> If this package is in the Nemo already, it should be available soon
> (some upcoming winter update) in Sailfish with some upcoming update. Ask
> lbt on irc@freenode #mer about approx. estimations.
>> - What would be the process to make it available and how long would it
>> roughly take?
>>I filed the PR on github that added the packaging for the actual qt5
>> version and would be willing to help here if I can.
>> - Are there alternatives to adding qca-qt5 to the pre-installed
>> repositories in order to allow apps on Harbour to use it as dependency?
> Now you can just package it with your application. Sometime later it has
> a big chance to appear in the list of officially supported packages if
> API will be considered stable enough to be supported.
> 
> - denis
> 
>> Background:
>> My app MeePasswords requires qca-qt5.
>> So far, I succeeded in building it in the SDK and successfully ran it on
>> my device (I manually added the qca-qt5 dependency via zypper.).
>> The biggest problem right now is the qca-qt5 dependency.
>>
>> I'd be very happy if it was possible to get MeePasswords into the
>> Harbour.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and best regards,
>>
>> Ruediger
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Is there any way to report a bug?

[Filip Kłębczyk]

W dniu 18.12.2013 20:15, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch pisze:

Hi Filip, Nils et al

I think the second mailing list dedicated to reporting bugs would be a
good first step, it fits with my suggestion of starting with a simple
system / process and evolving from that.


Well, I think that maybe we don't need that mailing list after all - a 
new press release:


"Co-creation platform to open this week"

Regards,
Filip
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Re: [SailfishDevel] A new Jolla phone user - after 2 days of use

[mourik jan heupink]

Hi,

On 12/19/2013 6:59, Kalle Vahlman wrote:

Did you focus the text entry? Oskari's screenshot shows the feeds, but
the icon I was mentioning is the one that appears*above*  the "share
what's on your mind"... (I'm just curious at this point:)

Just tried: that works to post a statusupdate, yes.

MJ
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Re: [SailfishDevel] qca-qt5 for Jolla phone

[Denis Zalevskiy]

On 12/19/2013 11:12 AM, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:

qt5 have good QCryptographicHash classes. Why you need QCA?


Shortly, QCA is much more than hashing functions. Also QCA can use 
different well-known existing engines - this is important for 
cryptography framework. Also, quite many application are using it.


- denis


On 19.12.2013 13:37, Denis Zalevskiy wrote:

Hi Ruediger,

On 12/17/2013 11:16 PM, Ruediger Gad wrote:

Hi,

as far as I can see, qca-qt5 is not available in the pre-installed
repositories of the Jolla phone.
So, my questions are:
- Is it planned to make it available (qca-qt5 is already in
nemo:devel:mw on Mer OBS.)?
If this package is in the Nemo already, it should be available soon 
(some upcoming winter update) in Sailfish with some upcoming update. 
Ask lbt on irc@freenode #mer about approx. estimations.

- What would be the process to make it available and how long would it
roughly take?
   I filed the PR on github that added the packaging for the actual qt5
version and would be willing to help here if I can.
- Are there alternatives to adding qca-qt5 to the pre-installed
repositories in order to allow apps on Harbour to use it as dependency?
Now you can just package it with your application. Sometime later it 
has a big chance to appear in the list of officially supported 
packages if API will be considered stable enough to be supported.


- denis


Background:
My app MeePasswords requires qca-qt5.
So far, I succeeded in building it in the SDK and successfully ran 
it on

my device (I manually added the qca-qt5 dependency via zypper.).
The biggest problem right now is the qca-qt5 dependency.

I'd be very happy if it was possible to get MeePasswords into the 
Harbour.




Thanks and best regards,

Ruediger






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Re: [SailfishDevel] Is there any way to report a bug?

[christopher . lamb]

Filip

Do you have a link? Googling finds nothing for this.

Chris

Zitat von "Filip Kłębczyk" :


W dniu 18.12.2013 20:15, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch pisze:

Hi Filip, Nils et al

I think the second mailing list dedicated to reporting bugs would be a
good first step, it fits with my suggestion of starting with a simple
system / process and evolving from that.


Well, I think that maybe we don't need that mailing list after all -  
a new press release:


"Co-creation platform to open this week"

Regards,
Filip





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Re: [SailfishDevel] Is there any way to report a bug?

[Mikko Rapeli]

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 01:43:05PM +0100, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:
> Do you have a link? Googling finds nothing for this.

http://jolla.com/media/documents/131219_Press_Release.pdf

"Jolla believes in co-creation and wants to empower its users to participate
in developing Jolla continuously further and better. To facilitate co-
creation and collect feedback, Jolla will be opening a portal at
together.jolla.com where customers can discuss and vote on which features
they would like to see in Jolla, report issues and submit ideas."

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[SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[christopher . lamb]

Hi

I know this isn't strictly a developer question, but as having real  
hardware is an important step in testing I am going to ask in any case.


So far I have not seen hide-nor-hair of my pre-order Sailfish Phone.  
The pre-order was confirmed on 25th November.


From at least last Thursday until Yesterday evening, the "My Order"  
page on the Jolla Website showed my order with the status "in  
picking". Today the format of the "My Order" page on the Jolla Website  
has changed, looking like it did some weeks ago, and the order just  
shows the status "paid".


This leaves me wondering what has happened to my order, and when it  
will be delivered.


What's going on? Are others in the same boat?

Chris


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Is there any way to report a bug?

[christopher . lamb]

Mikko

Thank you.

I did not spot that because it was hidden at the bottom of a press  
release with a completely different title ..


Chris

Zitat von "Mikko Rapeli" :


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 01:43:05PM +0100, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:

Do you have a link? Googling finds nothing for this.


http://jolla.com/media/documents/131219_Press_Release.pdf

"Jolla believes in co-creation and wants to empower its users to participate
in developing Jolla continuously further and better. To facilitate co-
creation and collect feedback, Jolla will be opening a portal at
together.jolla.com where customers can discuss and vote on which features
they would like to see in Jolla, report issues and submit ideas."

-Mikko
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[Oleg Linkin]

I did my preorder 20.05 and I havn't got my jolla since those days. Jolla
has big problems with logistics and we only can wait.


2013/12/19 

> Hi
>
> I know this isn't strictly a developer question, but as having real
> hardware is an important step in testing I am going to ask in any case.
>
> So far I have not seen hide-nor-hair of my pre-order Sailfish Phone. The
> pre-order was confirmed on 25th November.
>
> From at least last Thursday until Yesterday evening, the "My Order" page
> on the Jolla Website showed my order with the status "in picking". Today
> the format of the "My Order" page on the Jolla Website has changed, looking
> like it did some weeks ago, and the order just shows the status "paid".
>
> This leaves me wondering what has happened to my order, and when it will
> be delivered.
>
> What's going on? Are others in the same boat?
>
> Chris
>
>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[Jukka Eklund]

Yes, see: http://jolla.com/media/documents/131219_Press_Release.pdf

"After solving some technical logistics issues all the shipments to
pre-order customers in the EU will be shipped
by Christmas. We want to thank all of our valued customers for their great
support and patience to make this
happen,”



On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Linkin wrote:

> I did my preorder 20.05 and I havn't got my jolla since those days. Jolla
> has big problems with logistics and we only can wait.
>
>
> 2013/12/19 
>
> Hi
>>
>> I know this isn't strictly a developer question, but as having real
>> hardware is an important step in testing I am going to ask in any case.
>>
>> So far I have not seen hide-nor-hair of my pre-order Sailfish Phone. The
>> pre-order was confirmed on 25th November.
>>
>> From at least last Thursday until Yesterday evening, the "My Order" page
>> on the Jolla Website showed my order with the status "in picking". Today
>> the format of the "My Order" page on the Jolla Website has changed, looking
>> like it did some weeks ago, and the order just shows the status "paid".
>>
>> This leaves me wondering what has happened to my order, and when it will
>> be delivered.
>>
>> What's going on? Are others in the same boat?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[christopher . lamb]

Hi Jukka

I saw that, but given that in Finland the Christmas holidays start on  
the 24th Dec, the window to achieve that target is shrinking rapidly ...


Chris

Zitat von "Jukka Eklund" :


Yes, see: http://jolla.com/media/documents/131219_Press_Release.pdf

"After solving some technical logistics issues all the shipments to
pre-order customers in the EU will be shipped
by Christmas. We want to thank all of our valued customers for their great
support and patience to make this
happen,?



On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Oleg Linkin  
wrote:



I did my preorder 20.05 and I havn't got my jolla since those days. Jolla
has big problems with logistics and we only can wait.


2013/12/19 

Hi


I know this isn't strictly a developer question, but as having real
hardware is an important step in testing I am going to ask in any case.

So far I have not seen hide-nor-hair of my pre-order Sailfish Phone. The
pre-order was confirmed on 25th November.

From at least last Thursday until Yesterday evening, the "My Order" page
on the Jolla Website showed my order with the status "in picking". Today
the format of the "My Order" page on the Jolla Website has changed, looking
like it did some weeks ago, and the order just shows the status "paid".

This leaves me wondering what has happened to my order, and when it will
be delivered.

What's going on? Are others in the same boat?

Chris


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Re: [SailfishDevel] (QtLocation 5.0) Coordinate is not a type

[Sthocs]

tw_bolek  writes:

> 
> >   Bolek, have you got it working?
> 
> Yes, it does work this way. Thank you *VERY MUCH* Chris for your help!   
For my needs now it's even better than
> previously as on Harmattan I then had to use Qt.createQmlObject for what I 
needed to get.
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> BTW. Do you perhaps now the URL of the site where one can register to get 
the API key to use Nokia Maps plugin?  If
> I try to use it without any key it says to go to 
https://api.developer.nokia.com but that URL just
> redirects to the main Nokia Developer page.  I can't find the right place 
to register...   
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Hello,

I also wanted to use a Map in my application, and I am still struggling.
I already figured out that:
- We have to install QtLocation/QtPositioning in the SDK
- We have to manually install them in the emulator (I just found out about 
pkcon and zypper)
- We need to use QtPositioning.coordinate instead of Coordinate.

But now, if I try to display the simplest Map, I just get a blank screen. I 
have a message telling me that there is an error with the Plugin I use (does 
not support something - sorry I don't have the precise error message here)

I am sure it's something simple (some entry missing in the .pro?) but I 
could not find what yesterday, and I don't have so much time to search (It 
was really cool with Harmattan to have an example out of the box that we 
could just copy/paste and start customizing).

Would it be possible to have a simple example in the doc explaining all the 
required steps?
Or do you see what I am missing? For the plugin, I just put the same than 
for Harmattan:
plugin : Plugin {
name : "nokia";
parameters: [
PluginParameter { name: "app_id"; value: "APPID" 
},
PluginParameter { name: "token"; value: "TOKEN" 
}
   ]
}

Thanks for your help!

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[a.gra...@gmail.com]

Hi Christofer,

did you give a look (and maybe contributed) to this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqcXroZyLBjPdGJ4WmhOMlZBaVdEc2g1TmY3cXNLeWc&usp=sharing#gid=0?
Did you also read my tweet about how to get FedEx tracking number
https://twitter.com/andreagrandi/status/413281942373535744 ?

If not, please do it :)



On 19 December 2013 12:58,  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I know this isn't strictly a developer question, but as having real
> hardware is an important step in testing I am going to ask in any case.
>
> So far I have not seen hide-nor-hair of my pre-order Sailfish Phone. The
> pre-order was confirmed on 25th November.
>
> From at least last Thursday until Yesterday evening, the "My Order" page
> on the Jolla Website showed my order with the status "in picking". Today
> the format of the "My Order" page on the Jolla Website has changed, looking
> like it did some weeks ago, and the order just shows the status "paid".
>
> This leaves me wondering what has happened to my order, and when it will
> be delivered.
>
> What's going on? Are others in the same boat?
>
> Chris
>
>
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-- 
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Champion
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour news

[Reto Zingg]

Ahoy,

short update.

On 17.12.2013 17:43, Iekku Pylkka wrote:


4)
Heads up: Soon we won't allow any files not needing the execution bit
set, to have it set. So .png, .desktop and .qml files (and any other
file you package with your rpm, except the binary) are not allowed to
have permission 755, just 644!


You might now get with your rejection info some warning about that, e.g.

"WARNING [/usr/share/$NAME/qml/pages/main.qml] File must not be executable"

This is not yet the reason that your rpm got rejected! Just an info that 
you might need to change something in future. Details will follow.



5)
New APIs are approved as we go along - we'll inform you when you're
allowed to use new APIs in Harbour apps on the mailing list. If you
think you need an API (library or QML import) for your Harbour app that
is not yet approved, let us know on sailfish-devel. The current list of
approved APIs can be found on https://harbour.jolla.com/faq


We allow now some more libraries, please check out:
https://harbour.jolla.com/faq

Happy hacking
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Re: [SailfishDevel] (QtLocation 5.0) Coordinate is not a type

[Bob Jelica]

I have an example project showing a map and a location.
Will try publishing it online later tonight/tomorrow so you guys don’t have to 
walk to Mordor and back like I did to get it working ;)

//bob


On 19 Dec 2013, at 14:45, Sthocs  wrote:

> tw_bolek  writes:
> 
>> 
>>>  Bolek, have you got it working?
>> 
>> Yes, it does work this way. Thank you *VERY MUCH* Chris for your help!   
> For my needs now it's even better than
>> previously as on Harmattan I then had to use Qt.createQmlObject for what I 
> needed to get.
>> 
>> Thanks a lot!
>> 
>> BTW. Do you perhaps now the URL of the site where one can register to get 
> the API key to use Nokia Maps plugin?  If
>> I try to use it without any key it says to go to 
> https://api.developer.nokia.com but that URL just
>> redirects to the main Nokia Developer page.  I can't find the right place 
> to register...   
>> 
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>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I also wanted to use a Map in my application, and I am still struggling.
> I already figured out that:
> - We have to install QtLocation/QtPositioning in the SDK
> - We have to manually install them in the emulator (I just found out about 
> pkcon and zypper)
> - We need to use QtPositioning.coordinate instead of Coordinate.
> 
> But now, if I try to display the simplest Map, I just get a blank screen. I 
> have a message telling me that there is an error with the Plugin I use (does 
> not support something - sorry I don't have the precise error message here)
> 
> I am sure it's something simple (some entry missing in the .pro?) but I 
> could not find what yesterday, and I don't have so much time to search (It 
> was really cool with Harmattan to have an example out of the box that we 
> could just copy/paste and start customizing).
> 
> Would it be possible to have a simple example in the doc explaining all the 
> required steps?
> Or do you see what I am missing? For the plugin, I just put the same than 
> for Harmattan:
> plugin : Plugin {
>name : "nokia";
>parameters: [
>PluginParameter { name: "app_id"; value: "APPID" 
> },
>PluginParameter { name: "token"; value: "TOKEN" 
> }
>   ]
>}
> 
> Thanks for your help!
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[Jonatan Walck]

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:58:21 +0100
christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:

> So far I have not seen hide-nor-hair of my pre-order Sailfish Phone.  
> The pre-order was confirmed on 25th November.
> 
>  From at least last Thursday until Yesterday evening, the "My Order"  
> page on the Jolla Website showed my order with the status "in  
> picking". Today the format of the "My Order" page on the Jolla Website  
> has changed, looking like it did some weeks ago, and the order just  
> shows the status "paid".
> 
> This leaves me wondering what has happened to my order, and when it  
> will be delivered.
> 
> What's going on? Are others in the same boat?

I pre-ordered back in the day and paid for my phone on 2013-11-25.
Delivered 2013-12-16 to Sweden. I didn't hear a word besides "paid" on
the order page until the day of the delivery. They had their issues but
I'm sure they're working as fast as they can.

Hope you and all other pre-order customers get their hands on their
phones soon!

// jwalck


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[christopher . lamb]

Ciao Andrea

That was new to me, but I have now entered my details.

It looks like Switzerland and Norway have received no deliveries at all yet.

And when it is finally sent, then there will be the additional delay  
of the Swiss Customs ...


Patience is required.

Chris


Zitat von "a.gra...@gmail.com" :


Hi Christofer,

did you give a look (and maybe contributed) to this
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqcXroZyLBjPdGJ4WmhOMlZBaVdEc2g1TmY3cXNLeWc&usp=sharing#gid=0?
Did you also read my tweet about how to get FedEx tracking number
https://twitter.com/andreagrandi/status/413281942373535744 ?

If not, please do it :)





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Re: [SailfishDevel] [update] Hotfix to update1 (1.0.1.10 -> 1.0.1.12)

[Jani Kotakoski]

Hi Bernd,

thanks for the reply.


Bernd Wachter  kirjoitti:
>
>We're currently looking into possible ways for things going wrong
>during
>update which could have caused this even without touching those
>packages. One issue might be related to removal of the 'tutorial' app
>--
>did you remove that from your device before upgrading?

Yes. I had the tutorial app removed.

After my previous email, I tried to get the gallery working by removing and 
reinstalling it and by deleting the cache in the home folder. These steps 
didn't help.

Finally, I renamed the Pictures folder and launched the app (pictures were 
gone). Then, I renamed the folder back. This fixed everything.

I don't get how this could be caused by the update, but I can't remember doing 
anything else.

Cheers,
Jani

-- 
Dr. Jani Kotakoski.
Email: jani.kotako...@iki.fi
Sent from a Jolla. Please excuse for brevity.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] (QtLocation 5.0) Coordinate is not a type

[Janne Kokko]

Hi,

>> I try to use it without any key it says to go to
> https://api.developer.nokia.com but that URL just
>> redirects to the main Nokia Developer page.  I can't find the right place
> to register...

Sign in here: https://developer.here.com/myapps

You need to have a Nokia developer account. If you don't have one,
click on the "register" button on the sign in dialog.
Once you have a Nokia account, click "Create app" and follow the
instructions in the wizard.

> - We have to install QtLocation/QtPositioning in the SDK
> - We have to manually install them in the emulator (I just found out about
> pkcon and zypper)

To my knowledge you don't need to do any manual installation, just
configure yaml-file correctly, and use the option "Deploy as rpm
package" when running your app in the emulator:

PkgBR: [qt5-qtlocation-devel, qt5-qtdeclarative-import-location,
qt5-qtpositioning-devel, qt5-qtdeclarative-import-positioning]

Requires:
  - qt5-plugin-geoservices-nokia
  - qt5-qtdeclarative-import-location
  - qt5-qtdeclarative-import-positioning

More instructions in this very useful blog post I found:
http://flyingsheeponsailfish.blogspot.fi/2013/11/deploying-additional-packages-to.html

> But now, if I try to display the simplest Map, I just get a blank screen. I
> have a message telling me that there is an error with the Plugin I use (does
> not support something - sorry I don't have the precise error message here)

Are you sure you have provided valid app_id and token parameters to
the plugin? Map plugin might give misleading error messages if you
supply invalid ones. See:
https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-26634
This was the case with my app. I was getting this: "QML MapComponent:
Error: Plugin does not support mapping."
With correct parameters the error message disappeared.

> Or do you see what I am missing? For the plugin, I just put the same than
> for Harmattan:
> plugin : Plugin {
> name : "nokia";
> parameters: [
> PluginParameter { name: "app_id"; value: "APPID"
> },
> PluginParameter { name: "token"; value: "TOKEN"
> }
>]
> }

Looks correct to me, just make sure you provide valid values for the parameters.

--
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour news

[Boris Pohler]

Am Donnerstag, den 19.12.2013, 09:58 +0800 schrieb Matt Austin:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> On 18 December 2013 22:33, Thomas Perl  wrote:
> > 2013/12/18  :
> >> - libxml2. As far as I know, their API is quite stable now even if it was 
> >> not
> >> the case in the past (I remember having some trouble with it in 2003, but 
> >> it's
> >> history now !).
> >
> > I've added it to the list of libs to be considered. Let's see...
> 
> 
> Do you think it likely that some python libraries are likely to be
> considered too?
> 
> I'd like to request python-lxml.
> 
> I tend to use python-lxml quite a bit in my projects, but this isn't
> easily bundled along with a pure-python project, as it builds against
> liblxml2 and libxslt.

+1, I use lxml a lot, too. 

btw, is there any time frame, if and when applications based on python
e.g. pyotherside will be accepted in the store? Holidays are near and
I'll have some time to code ;)

> 
> If not then I guess I'd either have to bundle a built version with my
> app (no idea where to begin in doing this though), or switch to a
> pure-python html/xml parser.
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Matt
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour news

[Artem Marchenko]

I might be wrong, but in principle you can already submit Python apps to
Harbour. As long as you manage to package all the needed libraries into
your app package. I don't think there is a single public example of it by
now, but it should be possible.

/Artem.



On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Boris Pohler  wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, den 19.12.2013, 09:58 +0800 schrieb Matt Austin:
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > On 18 December 2013 22:33, Thomas Perl  wrote:
> > > 2013/12/18  :
> > >> - libxml2. As far as I know, their API is quite stable now even if it
> was not
> > >> the case in the past (I remember having some trouble with it in 2003,
> but it's
> > >> history now !).
> > >
> > > I've added it to the list of libs to be considered. Let's see...
> >
> >
> > Do you think it likely that some python libraries are likely to be
> > considered too?
> >
> > I'd like to request python-lxml.
> >
> > I tend to use python-lxml quite a bit in my projects, but this isn't
> > easily bundled along with a pure-python project, as it builds against
> > liblxml2 and libxslt.
>
> +1, I use lxml a lot, too.
>
> btw, is there any time frame, if and when applications based on python
> e.g. pyotherside will be accepted in the store? Holidays are near and
> I'll have some time to code ;)
>
> >
> > If not then I guess I'd either have to bundle a built version with my
> > app (no idea where to begin in doing this though), or switch to a
> > pure-python html/xml parser.
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Matt
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:46:58 +0100
christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:

> Ciao Andrea
> 
> That was new to me, but I have now entered my details.
> 
> It looks like Switzerland and Norway have received no deliveries at
> all yet.
> 
> And when it is finally sent, then there will be the additional delay  
> of the Swiss Customs ...

Is any import duty payable when the phone hits customs? I'm curious
whether customs in the UK will hold up the phone or whether I really
will get it before Christmas - status is shown 'Picking'.

> Patience is required.

Indeed.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[a.gra...@gmail.com]

I didn't pay anything more. Afaik between UK and Finland there is freedom
of commerce, so no custom to be paid. (it's not like USA-EU).
Did you use my suggestion to get the tracking number from FedEx website?


On 19 December 2013 17:10, Chris Walker <
cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:46:58 +0100
> christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:
>
> > Ciao Andrea
> >
> > That was new to me, but I have now entered my details.
> >
> > It looks like Switzerland and Norway have received no deliveries at
> > all yet.
> >
> > And when it is finally sent, then there will be the additional delay
> > of the Swiss Customs ...
>
> Is any import duty payable when the phone hits customs? I'm curious
> whether customs in the UK will hold up the phone or whether I really
> will get it before Christmas - status is shown 'Picking'.
>
> > Patience is required.
>
> Indeed.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:13:34 +
"a.gra...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> I didn't pay anything more. Afaik between UK and Finland there is
> freedom of commerce, so no custom to be paid. (it's not like USA-EU).
> Did you use my suggestion to get the tracking number from FedEx
> website?

Yes I did, but I couldn't make it work! I suspect the problem is
thrombosis of the keyboard - there's a clot on it ;-)

Or, as English is not your first language, perhaps this - PEBKAC -
explains it better.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[christopher . lamb]

Hi Chris

As Finland is an EU member and the UK is (however unwilling) still  
also an EU member (but not Schengen) they are both part of the Customs  
union, and you will pay no duty on goods from Finland or any other EU  
member.


Switzerland is the other way round. It is part of Schengen so we have  
open borders, but is not (yet) part of the EU, so we are outside the  
customs union, and have to pay import on Parcels.


Even worse, if the parcels are expedited via the Swiss Post, then they  
take ages to clear, and I get hit by a processing fee that is often  
higher than the import duty ...


Grüsse

Chris

Zitat von "Chris Walker" :


On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 16:46:58 +0100
christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:


Ciao Andrea

That was new to me, but I have now entered my details.

It looks like Switzerland and Norway have received no deliveries at
all yet.

And when it is finally sent, then there will be the additional delay
of the Swiss Customs ...


Is any import duty payable when the phone hits customs? I'm curious
whether customs in the UK will hold up the phone or whether I really
will get it before Christmas - status is shown 'Picking'.


Patience is required.


Indeed.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] (QtLocation 5.0) Coordinate is not a type

[christopher . lamb]

Janne

Zitat von "Janne Kokko" :


More instructions in this very useful blog post I found:
http://flyingsheeponsailfish.blogspot.fi/2013/11/deploying-additional-packages-to.html



Thanks for the kind words. I am glad that article helped. I wrote some  
of it up a mountain in South Africa sitting by an infinity pool with a  
bottle of Windhoek on the table next to me ...


grüsse

Chris

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[SailfishDevel] Audio when recording video

[Kimmo Lindholm]

I took few short test video clips with Jolla today at Christmas concert in 
Karatalo Espoo (Tauko) - credits to relevant artists.

The drum-sounds are really loud, and seems that there is some clipping...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oM0kGuhfek

Then some kids playing violins (Sorry shaking - I had to pick my nose) first 
very silent, then few times it ramps up and down (?)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuZ1Kuln-eA

Is the audio-AGC enabled (or wrongly tuned) when recording video?

-kimmo

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[SailfishDevel] Harbour/Jolla store improvement suggestion to separate Android/Sailfish apps

[Kimmo Lindholm]

Ahoy captains,

Can you add information about whether the application is for Android (apk) or 
for Sailfish (rpm) into the Jolla store?

Usually I have to read comments like "Native version would be nice", "Does not 
work"  etc. to find out that again this is an android version.
Keep sending android apps to Yandex etc..

And, please, also make there a filter - Show only Sailfish apps.

Any +1 ? anyone?

-kimmo
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour/Jolla store improvement suggestion to separate Android/Sailfish apps

[Marco Springer]

Aye, I'd prefer to have that information as well.

I'd like to keep those Android apps off of my First One, somehow my brain 
disproves those apps.

Didn't know that the Android apps also show up in the Jolla store, I thought 
that was explicitely for that Yandex store, which I haven't installed.
Or are they "merged"?

So, +1 as well!

On Thursday, December 19, 2013 06:44:54 PM Kimmo Lindholm wrote:
> Ahoy captains,
> 
> Can you add information about whether the application is for Android (apk)
> or for Sailfish (rpm) into the Jolla store?
> 
> Usually I have to read comments like "Native version would be nice", "Does
> not work"  etc. to find out that again this is an android version. Keep
> sending android apps to Yandex etc..
> 
> And, please, also make there a filter - Show only Sailfish apps.
> 
> Any +1 ? anyone?
> 
> -kimmo

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour/Jolla store improvement suggestion to separate Android/Sailfish apps

[Marko Koschak]

On Do, 2013-12-19 at 18:44 +, Kimmo Lindholm wrote:
> Can you add information about whether the application is for Android
> (apk) or for Sailfish (rpm) into the Jolla store?
>[...]
> And, please, also make there a filter – Show only Sailfish apps.
>  
> Any +1 ? anyone? 

+1
> 
A simple Sailfish or Droid icon on the app page would do the job.
(I haven't yet seen the store, just ordered my jolla today:D)

/Marko


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour/Jolla store improvement suggestion to separate Android/Sailfish apps

[Jarko Vihriala]

Once the co-creation site is open, I strongly recommend keeping this alive 
there - it's the best way to influence our doings.

thanks, Jarko

From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] 
on behalf of Aapi Hämäläinen [aapi.hamalai...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:46 PM
To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour/Jolla store improvement suggestion to 
separate Android/Sailfish apps

On 19.12.2013 21:24, Marko Koschak wrote:
> On Do, 2013-12-19 at 18:44 +, Kimmo Lindholm wrote:
>> Can you add information about whether the application is for Android
>> (apk) or for Sailfish (rpm) into the Jolla store?
>> [...]
>> And, please, also make there a filter – Show only Sailfish apps.
>>
>> Any +1 ? anyone?
> +1

+1 -- a filter would be really handy.

--
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour/Jolla store improvement suggestion to separate Android/Sailfish apps

[Aapi Hämäläinen]

On 19.12.2013 21:24, Marko Koschak wrote:

On Do, 2013-12-19 at 18:44 +, Kimmo Lindholm wrote:

Can you add information about whether the application is for Android
(apk) or for Sailfish (rpm) into the Jolla store?
[...]
And, please, also make there a filter – Show only Sailfish apps.
  
Any +1 ? anyone?

+1


+1 -- a filter would be really handy.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[Steph Gosling]

Hey Chris,

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:10:05 +
Chris Walker  wrote:
 
> Is any import duty payable when the phone hits customs? I'm curious
> whether customs in the UK will hold up the phone or whether I really
> will get it before Christmas - status is shown 'Picking'.

No duty or delay for mine to the UK. I should also say that there was
only about 3 hours between me receiving the tracking email and me
physically having the phone. All happened on the same day.

Cheers,

Steph

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phones

[Kaj-Michael Lang]

Why would there be? UK is inside EU.  Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Steph GoslingSent: torsdagen den 19:e december 2013 21:44To: Sailfish OS DevelopersReply To: Sailfish OS DevelopersSubject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Status of Pre-order phonesHey Chris,On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:10:05 +Chris Walker  wrote: > Is any import duty payable when the phone hits customs? I'm curious> whether customs in the UK will hold up the phone or whether I really> will get it before Christmas - status is shown 'Picking'.No duty or delay for mine to the UK. I should also say that there wasonly about 3 hours between me receiving the tracking email and mephysically having the phone. All happened on the same day.Cheers,Steph-- Steph Gosling ___SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
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[SailfishDevel] python development

[David Jensen]

Nokia's original book on Meego featured, I think, Python as the development. I
do not see this book on Amazon. However, almost none of the articles I have
seen  relating to Jolla mention Python. I assumed Nokia believed Python was an
ideal language for an open system that was easily modifiable by others.  I get
the impression the language is C++. This is more difficult than Java and
possibly also Objective C. How does Jolla expect their system to be adapted as
open if the language developers have to deal with is C++, with Python a vague
afterthought?  


David Jensen

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Re: [SailfishDevel] python development

[Filip Kłębczyk]

W dniu 19.12.2013 21:46, David Jensen pisze:

Nokia's original book on Meego featured, I think, Python as the development. I
do not see this book on Amazon. However, almost none of the articles I have
seen  relating to Jolla mention Python. I assumed Nokia believed Python was an
ideal language for an open system that was easily modifiable by others.  I get
the impression the language is C++. This is more difficult than Java and
possibly also Objective C. How does Jolla expect their system to be adapted as
open if the language developers have to deal with is C++, with Python a vague
afterthought?


You can already do Qt/QML + Python apps for Sailfish - check pyotherside 
(examples included) -> https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/pyotherside


Support in Harbour for PyOtherside apps is also coming soon(TM). In 
other words nothing prevents you to do Python apps for Sailfish OS.


Regards,
Filip

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[SailfishDevel] Fwd: Message from course Developing apps for Sailfish OS: introduction

[Samuli Silvius]

Hi,

I got add email about Sailfish course. Anybody recommending this?

Br
-Samuli

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Re: [SailfishDevel] python development

[christopher . lamb]

Hi David

You are pointing your finger at the wrong place. The blame (if any),  
belongs to Qt and not Jolla.


Jolla made the sensible decision not to reinvent the wheel. Instead  
they chose to leverage Qt, which is a strong contender as the de-facto  
multi-platform development toolkit, and one which is gaining  
increasing traction as the number of mobile platforms it supports grows.


Qt is programmed with a cocktail of C++, descriptive QML and Javascript.

Typically QML is used for the GUI stuff, Javascript for simple logic,  
and C++ from backend "heavy-lifting".


Depending on the nature of your project, and your preferences and  
experience you will have a different mix of these 3 languages /  
idioms. It is quite possible to create a Qt project with no more C++  
required than that generated in the default project. (I only use C++  
when I really can find no better way, while others will opt for a C++  
driven project).


Python is an alternative with bindings to Qt. If you search the  
archives of this mailing list you will find many questions on Python  
and Qt / Sailfish. So it is there, and it is being used, and there are  
ardent fans of Qt + Python out there.


The interesting question is, why did the original creators of Qt opt  
for C++, rather than the more obvious Java? I suspect that the answer  
is in the multi-platform ethos of Qt. Quite simply there is an open  
source C++ compiler available for almost any architecture you can  
think off, which is not the case for Java, especially in the mobile  
arena.


You should not find QML hard to learn, and if you have Java /  
Objective C experience, then I don't see why a limited amount of C++  
should put you off.



Chris


Zitat von "David Jensen" :

Nokia's original book on Meego featured, I think, Python as the  
development. I

do not see this book on Amazon. However, almost none of the articles I have
seen  relating to Jolla mention Python. I assumed Nokia believed  
Python was an
ideal language for an open system that was easily modifiable by  
others.  I get

the impression the language is C++. This is more difficult than Java and
possibly also Objective C. How does Jolla expect their system to be  
adapted as

open if the language developers have to deal with is C++, with Python a vague
afterthought?


David Jensen

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[SailfishDevel] cacert app -- integrated keychain -- nfc keychain passphrases -- multiple identities

[AL13N]

First I was thinking on email, and that imaps is really the only good way

1. certificates are verified too, so that's good...

2. then i was thinking that my certificates were certified by
http://cacert.org/ .

3. then i was thinking that maybe a cacert.org app should be made (if that
is possible)

4. then i was thinking of that trust thing

5. and how it would be great if a integrated keychain was used to store trust

6. and also how different identities would be possible with TOH

7. and how there's still space left on TOH NFC chip (
http://www.reddit.com/r/Jolla/comments/1t9xtv/jolla_white_the_other_half_nfc_contents/
)



thus, what would be really interesting is that one or more NFCs are linked
to a diff keychain,

and how a keychain should be protected by an extra NFC stored security
key, which in combination with a passphrase, could open it.

(possibly with sss, with a master backup key that can open it too, if you
lost passphrase or TOH)

and that this keychain could even contain multiple identities (which are
all unlocked by this keychain), which contain sync accounts, email
settings, email accounts, browser stored passwords, or even certain apps?

which means removing TOH should close all that is protected, and possibly
hide/encrypt the apps/data that are associated with that keychain, same
with user data, game scores, etc...

effectively one could remove TOH and appear it like a clean free unused
Jolla at first glance...

or even have one phone and multiple people using it, each with their own
TOH! or if you're schizophrene, (or just have multiple online identities)

how awesome would that be!?

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Re: [SailfishDevel] (QtLocation 5.0) Coordinate is not a type

[Sylvain B .]

Bob > That would be super cool :)
Janne > Thanks for your reply, but I used the same token I was using in my 
Harmattan app and it was not working. But I will retry this week-end after 
having had some sleep! And yes I already used this article to be able to 
install the dependencies on my emulator ;)
Chris > Thanks for the article! As I said, I used the "Installing by Hands" 
method. The only thing which is missing to be perfect is the "pkcon install 
zypper" (zypper is not installed by default and I didn't know this packaging 
tool before). I will post a "Thank you" once I actually see a Map on my screen 
=)

Well, I will retry that this WE, thanks for your replies!


> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:12:49 +0100
> From: christopher.l...@thurweb.ch
> To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org; jmkok...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] (QtLocation 5.0) Coordinate is not a type
> 
> Janne
> 
> Zitat von "Janne Kokko" :
> >
> > More instructions in this very useful blog post I found:
> > http://flyingsheeponsailfish.blogspot.fi/2013/11/deploying-additional-packages-to.html
> >
> 
> Thanks for the kind words. I am glad that article helped. I wrote some  
> of it up a mountain in South Africa sitting by an infinity pool with a  
> bottle of Windhoek on the table next to me ...
> 
> grüsse
> 
> Chris
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Re: [SailfishDevel] (QtLocation 5.0) Coordinate is not a type

[christopher . lamb]

Hi Sylvain

Thanks of the tip on zypper not being installed (on the Emulator).

That seems to be a feature of the latest SDK release, I am 99% sure  
that on earlier releases zypper was on the Emulator by default.


I wonder if this omission from the Emulator is by design or by mistake.

In the meantime I will update the blog post.

Chris


Zitat von "Sylvain B." :


Bob > That would be super cool :)
Janne > Thanks for your reply, but I used the same token I was using  
in my Harmattan app and it was not working. But I will retry this  
week-end after having had some sleep! And yes I already used this  
article to be able to install the dependencies on my emulator ;)
Chris > Thanks for the article! As I said, I used the "Installing by  
Hands" method. The only thing which is missing to be perfect is the  
"pkcon install zypper" (zypper is not installed by default and I  
didn't know this packaging tool before). I will post a "Thank you"  
once I actually see a Map on my screen =)


Well, I will retry that this WE, thanks for your replies!



Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:12:49 +0100
From: christopher.l...@thurweb.ch
To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org; jmkok...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] (QtLocation 5.0) Coordinate is not a type

Janne

Zitat von "Janne Kokko" :
>
> More instructions in this very useful blog post I found:
>  
http://flyingsheeponsailfish.blogspot.fi/2013/11/deploying-additional-packages-to.html

>

Thanks for the kind words. I am glad that article helped. I wrote some
of it up a mountain in South Africa sitting by an infinity pool with a
bottle of Windhoek on the table next to me ...

grüsse

Chris

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Re: [SailfishDevel] python development

[Sven Putze]

> The interesting question is, why did the original creators of Qt opt for C++, 
> rather than the more obvious Java? I suspect that the answer is in the 
> multi-platform ethos of Qt. Quite simply there is an open source C++ compiler 
> available for almost any architecture you can think off, which is not the 
> case for Java, especially in the mobile arena.

Hi,

there was no Java available at the time when Qt was created. And when Java came 
out, the desktop computers were much slower/smaller, so keep on using C++ to 
create fast native code was a natural choice. Quite the same situation with 
those small tiny computers we use to put in our pockets today. There is still a 
need for fast native code if you think in terms like performance or power usage 
(=battery life).
But hey, I am no preacher of the church of C++.
If people want to use Python, they should. They "only" must put everything 
needed inside their app.

BR.
Sven
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Re: [SailfishDevel] python development

[christopher . lamb]

Hi Sven

I have just done some digging into the history of Java and Qt, and was  
surprised to find that Qt is longer in the tooth than I had thought.


Interestingly both Qt and Java emerged at roughly the same time.

Trolltech [1] starting to write Qt in 1991. The earliest date I can  
find for a release [2] is 1998 for 1.4.0


Java [3] development also started in 1991, and was first released in 1995.

Thus at the start of Qt development, Java was either not available at  
all, or at best just a promise of things to come, and very far from  
the obvious choice that it might seem today.


Chris


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolltech

[2] http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language)


Zitat von "Sven Putze" :

The interesting question is, why did the original creators of Qt  
opt for C++, rather than the more obvious Java? I suspect that the  
answer is in the multi-platform ethos of Qt. Quite simply there is  
an open source C++ compiler available for almost any architecture  
you can think off, which is not the case for Java, especially in  
the mobile arena.


Hi,

there was no Java available at the time when Qt was created. And  
when Java came out, the desktop computers were much slower/smaller,  
so keep on using C++ to create fast native code was a natural  
choice. Quite the same situation with those small tiny computers we  
use to put in our pockets today. There is still a need for fast  
native code if you think in terms like performance or power usage  
(=battery life).

But hey, I am no preacher of the church of C++.
If people want to use Python, they should. They "only" must put  
everything needed inside their app.


BR.
Sven
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Re: [SailfishDevel] (QtLocation 5.0) Coordinate is not a type

[Thomas Tanghus]

On Friday 20 December 2013 07:07 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:
> Hi Sylvain
> 
> Thanks of the tip on zypper not being installed (on the Emulator).
> 
> That seems to be a feature of the latest SDK release, I am 99% sure
> that on earlier releases zypper was on the Emulator by default.
> 
> I wonder if this omission from the Emulator is by design or by mistake.

"Note that the zypper package manager is only available in the build engine 
virtual machine and in the Scratchbox 2 environment, not in the emulator or on 
a real device. The equivalent command in the emulator virtual machine or on a 
device is pkcon. These two commands have slightly different options and one 
may not support all the functionality the other has." 

https://sailfishos.org/develop-packaging-apps.html under Tips and Tricks

-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards

Thomas Tanghus
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