Re: [SailfishDevel] How to get the screen capture but don't block UI

[Andrey Kozhevnikov]

using Qt DBus classes and not use system() call?

On 12.02.2014 12:08, itviewer wrote:

Dear all,
I need the screen capture function in my application . There are two 
applications (screenshot and  opensource sailshotme) in the jolla store.
From the "sailshotme", I know that  can call the saveScreenshot method 
of org.nemomobile.lipstick through dbus, such as the command:
"dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply 
--dest=org.nemomobile.lipstick /org/nemomobile/lipstick/screenshot 
org.nemomobile.lipstick.saveScreenshot 
string:/home/nemo/Pictures/123.png "
but, using the "sailshotme" or the above mentioned command will lead 
to the UI blocking of sailfish system, the screen will not response 
within
a few seconds, however, it seems that there is no such blocking when 
using the "screenshot".

so I want to know the mechanism of the "screenshot"?
Best&Regards

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[SailfishDevel] How to get the screen capture but don't block UI

[itviewer]

Dear all,

I need the screen capture function in my application . There are two 
applications (screenshot and  opensource sailshotme) in the jolla store. 

From the "sailshotme", I know that  can call the saveScreenshot method of 
org.nemomobile.lipstick through dbus, such as the command:

"dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply 
--dest=org.nemomobile.lipstick /org/nemomobile/lipstick/screenshot 
org.nemomobile.lipstick.saveScreenshot  string:/home/nemo/Pictures/123.png "

but, using the "sailshotme" or the above mentioned command will lead to the UI 
blocking of sailfish system, the screen will not response within 
a few seconds, however, it seems that there is no such blocking when using the 
"screenshot".
so I want to know the mechanism of the "screenshot"？

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[SailfishDevel] Sailfish and OpenCL

[miguel martinez]

Hello, I was wondering if GPGPU functionality is made accesible through an
API such as OpenCL, specifically on the Jolla smartphone?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Mikael Hermansson]

On Tuesday 11 February 2014 21.15.48 Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
> Am 11.02.2014 20:14, schrieb Marcin M.:
> > But they could make the UI usable on mobile phones, as it's done in
> > Fremantle. I can send you a screenshot with the app themed and not themed.
> 

You better ask yourself this:

 1. If endusers have to download from thirdparty "warehouse" that provides 
QtWidgets+XWayland less users will use you app.
2. I doubt QtWidgets apps will be userfriendly  and probadly not integrate 
well with sailfishUI and slow since already stated QtWidget is not accelerated 
on embedded platforms.
3. And why not learn QML(for the UI) when  linux desktop OS:es will use QML 
more frequently lately? for example ubuntu unity and KDEFramework5? That way 
you still can use QtWidgets on windows until QML2 ported to windows8.

Its new times get over it think fresh think new ;)

Just IMHO... 

Regards

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Dietmar Schwertberger]

Am 11.02.2014 20:14, schrieb Marcin M.:
But they could make the UI usable on mobile phones, as it's done in 
Fremantle. I can send you a screenshot with the app themed and not themed.



I tried my Maemo/Fremantle app without a theme.
As I would like to stay compatible to Maemo and Windows, I would prefer 
the QtWidgets solution for some time.


The major problems:
 - When I open a second window, on Maemo I use the stacked windows 
attribute. On Sailfish that's not available, so a second window opens. 
The second window then is shown on its own in the multitasking view. 
This could probably be fixed using QStackedWidgets, though.
 - The menu bar is shown just like in Windows not as pulleye. When you 
open the menu, again a full window is opened.


If that could be fixed using a theme, that would really be cool, but I 
have my doubts that this is possible.
If I had the same problems on Windows, I would assume that I could get 
the (window) handles of the underlying windows/widgets/whatever and do 
some win32 calls to fix the problems. Maybe on Sailfish that's possible 
as well, but there's no documentation...



Regards,

Dietmar


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Does sailfish run wine?

[A. Wickert]

There is a prototype of Wine build against Bionic:
http://wiki.winehq.org/FOSDEM2014?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=wine-on-android-fosdem-2014.pdf

On 11/02/14 15:07, Timur Kristóf wrote:

Of course, if you also bring in XWayland. :P


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Benoît HERVIER > wrote:


Or Windows x86 application if you run Sailfish on x86 cpu. :p

In fact, no. Currently,  wine depends on libx11. So i don't think
even arm application will run.

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Le 2014-02-11 12:42, Andrey Kozhevnikov a écrit :

Yes. Windows ARM applications :D
And please don't use developer mailing list for not relevant
questions :)

On 11.02.2014 17:38, David Jensen wrote:

Since Sailfish is Linux, does Wine, and therefore Windows
programs run on it?





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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Marcin M.]

But they could make the UI usable on mobile phones, as it's done in
Fremantle. I can send you a screenshot with the app themed and not themed.

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2014-02-11 19:07 GMT+01:00 Dietmar Schwertberger 
:

> Am 11.02.2014 16:51, schrieb Marcin M.:
>
>   Don't know much about Qt theming capability but you could try installing
>> some custom theme for plain Qt, as Maemo does. But sitll there'll be no
>> native look&feel
>>
>>  Themes would only change the look.
> Things like dialogs, multiple windows, menus etc. still would not behave
> as expected.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dietmar
>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Dietmar Schwertberger]

Am 11.02.2014 16:51, schrieb Marcin M.:
 Don't know much about Qt theming capability but you could try 
installing some custom theme for plain Qt, as Maemo does. But sitll 
there'll be no native look&feel



Themes would only change the look.
Things like dialogs, multiple windows, menus etc. still would not behave 
as expected.


Regards,

Dietmar


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Marcin M.]

 Don't know much about Qt theming capability but you could try installing
some custom theme for plain Qt, as Maemo does. But sitll there'll be no
native look&feel

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2014-02-11 15:10 GMT+01:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov :

>  Actually you don't need Harbour to develop what you want ;)
>
>
> On 11.02.2014 20:09, Timur Kristóf wrote:
>
>  This site answers both your questions: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq
>
>  1. QWidgets are unsupported on Sailfish because they are not
> mobile-optimized and not hardware accelerated.
>  2. Python will be supported but isn't yet.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger <
> maill...@schwertberger.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Until now I have been using PySide to write Qt Widgets applications that
>> were running fine
>> under Windows and Maemo.
>> With some if/else I got native look & feel on both platforms.
>>
>> Now I've tried the same with PyQt5 on Sailfish OS and the application
>> looks
>> like a Windows application and even opens new windows when I e.g. open
>> the menu.
>> Unfortunately it seems that QML is the only way to get native look and
>> feel.
>> Am I right?
>>
>> Switching to QML/Qt Quick seems a major effort and especially, it is very
>> un-pythonic
>> to use this mixture of two languages.
>> Even when I switch, it seems that there's quite some effort to stay
>> compatible over
>> multiple platforms as you more or less have to use Silica components on
>> Sailfish OS
>> and on the other hand I won't gain usability on a mouse based platform
>> like Windows.
>>
>> With Maemo I had the impression that it was quite easy to port any GUI
>> application
>> and get at least a reasonable UI. Seems that this is not true with
>> Sailfish OS any more.
>> You have to choose between all or nothing...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dietmar
>>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish Browser is now open source!

[Алексей Рочев]

Will you open Silica components and other apps too?


2014-02-11 15:37 GMT+04:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov :

> Thank you. Finally i can contribute :D
>
>
> On 11.02.2014 17:31, Vesa-Matti Hartikainen wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  We finally got all the preparations done and today is the day. Sailfish
>> Browser is Jolla's first fully open source application! The public
>> repository is here: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser
>>
>>  We intend to work as open as possible and hope to gain contributors and
>> a better chance of getting our embedding accepted to Mozilla upstream.
>>
>>  Future contributions, both internal and external should go to the public
>> repository. I hope that we will get a public bugzilla for this project at
>> some point, but at the moment externally we will use Github's issue tracker.
>>
>>  A more in depth description of the technology powering the browser can
>> be found at http://blog.idempotent.info/posts/whats-behind-sailfish-
>> browser.html.
>>
>> On behalf of Jolla's browser team I thank you all for being an awesome
>> community and we are very much looking forward to building a great browser
>> together!
>>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to hide pushup menu?

[Thomas Tanghus]

On Tuesday 11 February 2014 15:16 Timur Kristóf wrote:
> If setting the PushUpMenu's visible to false doesn't work, that sounds like
> a bug to me.

That's also what the docs say:

https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/sailfish-application-pitfalls.html#disabled-pulley-menus

> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Tero Siironen  wrote:
> > I have PushUpMenu in my app which currently has only one item, and in
> > some situations also that item should not be visible. How can I hide
> > the menu?
> > 
> > I tried to set MenuItem's visibility to false, but that lead to weird
> > behaviour; PushUpMenu is still there and empty, but the empty menu can
> > be pushed up about screen height. I also tried to use visible property
> > in PushUpMenu, but that doesn't seem to hide the menu.
> > 
> > Disabling the MenuItem could be one option, but as it still shows the
> > item's label it would be a bit misleading for the user in my
> > situation. I would prefer to hide the whole PushUpMenu when there's no
> > items that could be used.

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Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards

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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to hide pushup menu?

[Timur Kristóf]

If setting the PushUpMenu's visible to false doesn't work, that sounds like
a bug to me.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Tero Siironen  wrote:

> I have PushUpMenu in my app which currently has only one item, and in
> some situations also that item should not be visible. How can I hide
> the menu?
>
> I tried to set MenuItem's visibility to false, but that lead to weird
> behaviour; PushUpMenu is still there and empty, but the empty menu can
> be pushed up about screen height. I also tried to use visible property
> in PushUpMenu, but that doesn't seem to hide the menu.
>
> Disabling the MenuItem could be one option, but as it still shows the
> item's label it would be a bit misleading for the user in my
> situation. I would prefer to hide the whole PushUpMenu when there's no
> items that could be used.
>
>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Porting Symbian QML to Sailfish

[Timur Kristóf]

You will probably need to rethink your user interface entirely, according
to Sailfish best practices and standards. There is no point in seaching for
direct alternatives of components on other platforms.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Samuli Silvius wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Porting from Symbian app to Sailfish. What are the correct replacements in
> Sailfish QML?
>
> CommonDialog   --> ?
>
> ToolBar, ToolBarLayout, ToolButton--> PulldownMenu?
>
> SelectionDialog--> ?
>
> QueryDialog--> ?
>
> RadioButton--> ?
>
> CheckableGroup --> ?
>
>
> Br
> -Samuli
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Andrey Kozhevnikov]

Actually you don't need Harbour to develop what you want ;)

On 11.02.2014 20:09, Timur Kristóf wrote:

This site answers both your questions: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq

1. QWidgets are unsupported on Sailfish because they are not 
mobile-optimized and not hardware accelerated.

2. Python will be supported but isn't yet.


On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger 
mailto:maill...@schwertberger.de>> wrote:


Hi!

Until now I have been using PySide to write Qt Widgets
applications that were running fine
under Windows and Maemo.
With some if/else I got native look & feel on both platforms.

Now I've tried the same with PyQt5 on Sailfish OS and the
application looks
like a Windows application and even opens new windows when I e.g.
open the menu.
Unfortunately it seems that QML is the only way to get native look
and feel.
Am I right?

Switching to QML/Qt Quick seems a major effort and especially, it
is very un-pythonic
to use this mixture of two languages.
Even when I switch, it seems that there's quite some effort to
stay compatible over
multiple platforms as you more or less have to use Silica
components on Sailfish OS
and on the other hand I won't gain usability on a mouse based
platform like Windows.

With Maemo I had the impression that it was quite easy to port any
GUI application
and get at least a reasonable UI. Seems that this is not true with
Sailfish OS any more.
You have to choose between all or nothing...

Regards,

Dietmar

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?

[Timur Kristóf]

This site answers both your questions: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq

1. QWidgets are unsupported on Sailfish because they are not
mobile-optimized and not hardware accelerated.
2. Python will be supported but isn't yet.


On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger <
maill...@schwertberger.de> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Until now I have been using PySide to write Qt Widgets applications that
> were running fine
> under Windows and Maemo.
> With some if/else I got native look & feel on both platforms.
>
> Now I've tried the same with PyQt5 on Sailfish OS and the application looks
> like a Windows application and even opens new windows when I e.g. open the
> menu.
> Unfortunately it seems that QML is the only way to get native look and
> feel.
> Am I right?
>
> Switching to QML/Qt Quick seems a major effort and especially, it is very
> un-pythonic
> to use this mixture of two languages.
> Even when I switch, it seems that there's quite some effort to stay
> compatible over
> multiple platforms as you more or less have to use Silica components on
> Sailfish OS
> and on the other hand I won't gain usability on a mouse based platform
> like Windows.
>
> With Maemo I had the impression that it was quite easy to port any GUI
> application
> and get at least a reasonable UI. Seems that this is not true with
> Sailfish OS any more.
> You have to choose between all or nothing...
>
> Regards,
>
> Dietmar
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Does sailfish run wine?

[Timur Kristóf]

Of course, if you also bring in XWayland. :P


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Benoît HERVIER  wrote:

> Or Windows x86 application if you run Sailfish on x86 cpu. :p
>
> In fact, no. Currently,  wine depends on libx11. So i don't think even arm
> application will run.
>
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>
> Le 2014-02-11 12:42, Andrey Kozhevnikov a écrit :
>
>  Yes. Windows ARM applications :D
>> And please don't use developer mailing list for not relevant questions :)
>>
>> On 11.02.2014 17:38, David Jensen wrote:
>>
>>> Since Sailfish is Linux, does Wine, and therefore Windows programs run
>>> on it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Jensen
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[SailfishDevel] Adding repository to MerSDK target failed - no packages visible - HELP!

[Simon Bolek]

Hi,

I tried to add a repository to MerSDK target SailfishOS-i486-x86 as
follows:

1) ssh -p 2223 -i mersdk mersdk@localhost
- succesfully ssh-ed to VM

2) [mersdk@SailfishSDK:~$] sudo zypper ar -f
http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20130605.1/builds/i586/packages/nemo
- added repo just fine

3) [mersdk@SailfishSDK:~$] sudo zypper ref
- success and installing packages such as libqt-devel was also successfull

4) [mersdk@SailfishSDK:~$] sb2 -t SailfishOS-i486-x86 -m sdk-install -R
zypper ar -f
http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20130605.1/builds/i586/packages/nemo
- success in adding repo, i can see it with zypper lr -d

5) [mersdk@SailfishSDK:~$] sb2 -t SailfishOS-i486-x86 -m sdk-install -R
zypper se -s libqt-devel
- FAILED! - no packages found

HELP!: where am I making the mistake?


cheers
simon
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Does sailfish run wine?

[Benoît HERVIER]

Or Windows x86 application if you run Sailfish on x86 cpu. :p

In fact, no. Currently,  wine depends on libx11. So i don't think even 
arm application will run.


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Le 2014-02-11 12:42, Andrey Kozhevnikov a écrit :

Yes. Windows ARM applications :D
And please don't use developer mailing list for not relevant questions 
:)


On 11.02.2014 17:38, David Jensen wrote:
Since Sailfish is Linux, does Wine, and therefore Windows programs run 
on it?






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[SailfishDevel] Disable dns forward on SailfishOS Emulator

[Anatoly Shipitsin]

Hello. Can you disable dns forward on SailfishOS Emulator like as Mer SDK?
On this link

https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox

it maybe got issues on Ubuntu

VBoxManage modifyvm MerSDK --natdnshostresolver1 on

I'm enable this on SailfishOS Emulator for fix problem with corp proxy
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Does sailfish run wine?

[Andrey Kozhevnikov]

Yes. Windows ARM applications :D
And please don't use developer mailing list for not relevant questions :)

On 11.02.2014 17:38, David Jensen wrote:

Since Sailfish is Linux, does Wine, and therefore Windows programs run on it?





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Since Sailfish is Linux, does Wine, and therefore Windows programs run on it?





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Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish Browser is now open source!

[Andrey Kozhevnikov]

Thank you. Finally i can contribute :D

On 11.02.2014 17:31, Vesa-Matti Hartikainen wrote:

Hi all,

 We finally got all the preparations done and today is the day. 
Sailfish Browser is Jolla's first fully open source application! The 
public repository is here: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser


 We intend to work as open as possible and hope to gain contributors 
and a better chance of getting our embedding accepted to Mozilla 
upstream.


 Future contributions, both internal and external should go to the 
public repository. I hope that we will get a public bugzilla for this 
project at some point, but at the moment externally we will use 
Github's issue tracker.


 A more in depth description of the technology powering the browser 
can be found at 
http://blog.idempotent.info/posts/whats-behind-sailfish-browser.html.


On behalf of Jolla's browser team I thank you all for being an awesome 
community and we are very much looking forward to building a great 
browser together!




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[SailfishDevel] Sailfish Browser is now open source!

[Vesa-Matti Hartikainen]

Hi all,

 We finally got all the preparations done and today is the day. 
Sailfish Browser is Jolla's first fully open source application! The 
public repository is here: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser


 We intend to work as open as possible and hope to gain contributors 
and a better chance of getting our embedding accepted to Mozilla upstream.


 Future contributions, both internal and external should go to the 
public repository. I hope that we will get a public bugzilla for this 
project at some point, but at the moment externally we will use Github's 
issue tracker.


 A more in depth description of the technology powering the browser can 
be found at 
http://blog.idempotent.info/posts/whats-behind-sailfish-browser.html.


On behalf of Jolla's browser team I thank you all for being an awesome 
community and we are very much looking forward to building a great 
browser together!


--
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Jolla Oy
http://jolla.com

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