[SailfishDevel] Sailfish Browser is now open source!
Hi all, We finally got all the preparations done and today is the day. Sailfish Browser is Jolla's first fully open source application! The public repository is here: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser We intend to work as open as possible and hope to gain contributors and a better chance of getting our embedding accepted to Mozilla upstream. Future contributions, both internal and external should go to the public repository. I hope that we will get a public bugzilla for this project at some point, but at the moment externally we will use Github's issue tracker. A more in depth description of the technology powering the browser can be found at http://blog.idempotent.info/posts/whats-behind-sailfish-browser.html. On behalf of Jolla's browser team I thank you all for being an awesome community and we are very much looking forward to building a great browser together! -- Vesa-Matti Hartikainen Jolla Oy http://jolla.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] Does sailfish run wine?
Since Sailfish is Linux, does Wine, and therefore Windows programs run on it? David Jensen ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Does sailfish run wine?
Yes. Windows ARM applications :D And please don't use developer mailing list for not relevant questions :) On 11.02.2014 17:38, David Jensen wrote: Since Sailfish is Linux, does Wine, and therefore Windows programs run on it? David Jensen ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Does sailfish run wine?
Or Windows x86 application if you run Sailfish on x86 cpu. :p In fact, no. Currently, wine depends on libx11. So i don't think even arm application will run. --- Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.net/ Le 2014-02-11 12:42, Andrey Kozhevnikov a écrit : Yes. Windows ARM applications :D And please don't use developer mailing list for not relevant questions :) On 11.02.2014 17:38, David Jensen wrote: Since Sailfish is Linux, does Wine, and therefore Windows programs run on it? David Jensen ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] Adding repository to MerSDK target failed - no packages visible - HELP!
Hi, I tried to add a repository to MerSDK target SailfishOS-i486-x86 as follows: 1) ssh -p 2223 -i mersdk mersdk@localhost - succesfully ssh-ed to VM 2) [mersdk@SailfishSDK:~$] sudo zypper ar -f http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20130605.1/builds/i586/packages/nemo - added repo just fine 3) [mersdk@SailfishSDK:~$] sudo zypper ref - success and installing packages such as libqt-devel was also successfull 4) [mersdk@SailfishSDK:~$] sb2 -t SailfishOS-i486-x86 -m sdk-install -R zypper ar -f http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20130605.1/builds/i586/packages/nemo - success in adding repo, i can see it with zypper lr -d 5) [mersdk@SailfishSDK:~$] sb2 -t SailfishOS-i486-x86 -m sdk-install -R zypper se -s libqt-devel - FAILED! - no packages found HELP!: where am I making the mistake? cheers simon ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?
This site answers both your questions: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq 1. QWidgets are unsupported on Sailfish because they are not mobile-optimized and not hardware accelerated. 2. Python will be supported but isn't yet. On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger maill...@schwertberger.de wrote: Hi! Until now I have been using PySide to write Qt Widgets applications that were running fine under Windows and Maemo. With some if/else I got native look feel on both platforms. Now I've tried the same with PyQt5 on Sailfish OS and the application looks like a Windows application and even opens new windows when I e.g. open the menu. Unfortunately it seems that QML is the only way to get native look and feel. Am I right? Switching to QML/Qt Quick seems a major effort and especially, it is very un-pythonic to use this mixture of two languages. Even when I switch, it seems that there's quite some effort to stay compatible over multiple platforms as you more or less have to use Silica components on Sailfish OS and on the other hand I won't gain usability on a mouse based platform like Windows. With Maemo I had the impression that it was quite easy to port any GUI application and get at least a reasonable UI. Seems that this is not true with Sailfish OS any more. You have to choose between all or nothing... Regards, Dietmar ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?
Actually you don't need Harbour to develop what you want ;) On 11.02.2014 20:09, Timur Kristóf wrote: This site answers both your questions: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq 1. QWidgets are unsupported on Sailfish because they are not mobile-optimized and not hardware accelerated. 2. Python will be supported but isn't yet. On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Dietmar Schwertberger maill...@schwertberger.de mailto:maill...@schwertberger.de wrote: Hi! Until now I have been using PySide to write Qt Widgets applications that were running fine under Windows and Maemo. With some if/else I got native look feel on both platforms. Now I've tried the same with PyQt5 on Sailfish OS and the application looks like a Windows application and even opens new windows when I e.g. open the menu. Unfortunately it seems that QML is the only way to get native look and feel. Am I right? Switching to QML/Qt Quick seems a major effort and especially, it is very un-pythonic to use this mixture of two languages. Even when I switch, it seems that there's quite some effort to stay compatible over multiple platforms as you more or less have to use Silica components on Sailfish OS and on the other hand I won't gain usability on a mouse based platform like Windows. With Maemo I had the impression that it was quite easy to port any GUI application and get at least a reasonable UI. Seems that this is not true with Sailfish OS any more. You have to choose between all or nothing... Regards, Dietmar ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to hide pushup menu?
If setting the PushUpMenu's visible to false doesn't work, that sounds like a bug to me. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Tero Siironen izer...@gmail.com wrote: I have PushUpMenu in my app which currently has only one item, and in some situations also that item should not be visible. How can I hide the menu? I tried to set MenuItem's visibility to false, but that lead to weird behaviour; PushUpMenu is still there and empty, but the empty menu can be pushed up about screen height. I also tried to use visible property in PushUpMenu, but that doesn't seem to hide the menu. Disabling the MenuItem could be one option, but as it still shows the item's label it would be a bit misleading for the user in my situation. I would prefer to hide the whole PushUpMenu when there's no items that could be used. -- Tero ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to hide pushup menu?
On Tuesday 11 February 2014 15:16 Timur Kristóf wrote: If setting the PushUpMenu's visible to false doesn't work, that sounds like a bug to me. That's also what the docs say: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/sailfish-application-pitfalls.html#disabled-pulley-menus On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Tero Siironen izer...@gmail.com wrote: I have PushUpMenu in my app which currently has only one item, and in some situations also that item should not be visible. How can I hide the menu? I tried to set MenuItem's visibility to false, but that lead to weird behaviour; PushUpMenu is still there and empty, but the empty menu can be pushed up about screen height. I also tried to use visible property in PushUpMenu, but that doesn't seem to hide the menu. Disabling the MenuItem could be one option, but as it still shows the item's label it would be a bit misleading for the user in my situation. I would prefer to hide the whole PushUpMenu when there's no items that could be used. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish Browser is now open source!
Will you open Silica components and other apps too? 2014-02-11 15:37 GMT+04:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com: Thank you. Finally i can contribute :D On 11.02.2014 17:31, Vesa-Matti Hartikainen wrote: Hi all, We finally got all the preparations done and today is the day. Sailfish Browser is Jolla's first fully open source application! The public repository is here: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser We intend to work as open as possible and hope to gain contributors and a better chance of getting our embedding accepted to Mozilla upstream. Future contributions, both internal and external should go to the public repository. I hope that we will get a public bugzilla for this project at some point, but at the moment externally we will use Github's issue tracker. A more in depth description of the technology powering the browser can be found at http://blog.idempotent.info/posts/whats-behind-sailfish- browser.html. On behalf of Jolla's browser team I thank you all for being an awesome community and we are very much looking forward to building a great browser together! ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?
Am 11.02.2014 16:51, schrieb Marcin M.: Don't know much about Qt theming capability but you could try installing some custom theme for plain Qt, as Maemo does. But sitll there'll be no native lookfeel Themes would only change the look. Things like dialogs, multiple windows, menus etc. still would not behave as expected. Regards, Dietmar ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?
But they could make the UI usable on mobile phones, as it's done in Fremantle. I can send you a screenshot with the app themed and not themed. -- Marcin 2014-02-11 19:07 GMT+01:00 Dietmar Schwertberger maill...@schwertberger.de : Am 11.02.2014 16:51, schrieb Marcin M.: Don't know much about Qt theming capability but you could try installing some custom theme for plain Qt, as Maemo does. But sitll there'll be no native lookfeel Themes would only change the look. Things like dialogs, multiple windows, menus etc. still would not behave as expected. Regards, Dietmar ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Does sailfish run wine?
There is a prototype of Wine build against Bionic: http://wiki.winehq.org/FOSDEM2014?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=wine-on-android-fosdem-2014.pdf On 11/02/14 15:07, Timur Kristóf wrote: Of course, if you also bring in XWayland. :P On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Benoît HERVIER kher...@khertan.net mailto:kher...@khertan.net wrote: Or Windows x86 application if you run Sailfish on x86 cpu. :p In fact, no. Currently, wine depends on libx11. So i don't think even arm application will run. --- Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.net/ Le 2014-02-11 12:42, Andrey Kozhevnikov a écrit : Yes. Windows ARM applications :D And please don't use developer mailing list for not relevant questions :) On 11.02.2014 17:38, David Jensen wrote: Since Sailfish is Linux, does Wine, and therefore Windows programs run on it? David Jensen ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?
Am 11.02.2014 20:14, schrieb Marcin M.: But they could make the UI usable on mobile phones, as it's done in Fremantle. I can send you a screenshot with the app themed and not themed. I tried my Maemo/Fremantle app without a theme. As I would like to stay compatible to Maemo and Windows, I would prefer the QtWidgets solution for some time. The major problems: - When I open a second window, on Maemo I use the stacked windows attribute. On Sailfish that's not available, so a second window opens. The second window then is shown on its own in the multitasking view. This could probably be fixed using QStackedWidgets, though. - The menu bar is shown just like in Windows not as pulleye. When you open the menu, again a full window is opened. If that could be fixed using a theme, that would really be cool, but I have my doubts that this is possible. If I had the same problems on Windows, I would assume that I could get the (window) handles of the underlying windows/widgets/whatever and do some win32 calls to fix the problems. Maybe on Sailfish that's possible as well, but there's no documentation... Regards, Dietmar ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Python and Qt Widgets development possible?
On Tuesday 11 February 2014 21.15.48 Dietmar Schwertberger wrote: Am 11.02.2014 20:14, schrieb Marcin M.: But they could make the UI usable on mobile phones, as it's done in Fremantle. I can send you a screenshot with the app themed and not themed. You better ask yourself this: 1. If endusers have to download from thirdparty warehouse that provides QtWidgets+XWayland less users will use you app. 2. I doubt QtWidgets apps will be userfriendly and probadly not integrate well with sailfishUI and slow since already stated QtWidget is not accelerated on embedded platforms. 3. And why not learn QML(for the UI) when linux desktop OS:es will use QML more frequently lately? for example ubuntu unity and KDEFramework5? That way you still can use QtWidgets on windows until QML2 ported to windows8. Its new times get over it think fresh think new ;) Just IMHO... Regards Mikael -- Skickat från Lenovo Thinkpad X230 running Kubuntu desktop ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] How to get the screen capture but don't block UI
Dear all, I need the screen capture function in my application . There are two applications (screenshot and opensource sailshotme) in the jolla store. From the sailshotme, I know that can call the saveScreenshot method of org.nemomobile.lipstick through dbus, such as the command: dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.nemomobile.lipstick /org/nemomobile/lipstick/screenshot org.nemomobile.lipstick.saveScreenshot string:/home/nemo/Pictures/123.png but, using the sailshotme or the above mentioned command will lead to the UI blocking of sailfish system, the screen will not response within a few seconds, however, it seems that there is no such blocking when using the screenshot. so I want to know the mechanism of the screenshot？ BestRegards ma xinjun___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to get the screen capture but don't block UI
using Qt DBus classes and not use system() call? On 12.02.2014 12:08, itviewer wrote: Dear all, I need the screen capture function in my application . There are two applications (screenshot and opensource sailshotme) in the jolla store. From the sailshotme, I know that can call the saveScreenshot method of org.nemomobile.lipstick through dbus, such as the command: dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.nemomobile.lipstick /org/nemomobile/lipstick/screenshot org.nemomobile.lipstick.saveScreenshot string:/home/nemo/Pictures/123.png but, using the sailshotme or the above mentioned command will lead to the UI blocking of sailfish system, the screen will not response within a few seconds, however, it seems that there is no such blocking when using the screenshot. so I want to know the mechanism of the screenshot? BestRegards ma xinjun ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
