Re: [SailfishDevel] New SailfishOS phone manufacturer
Hi, I don't see why dalvik would not be available. If the OS runs on the device, dalvik should be able to run too. Alex. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:09 PM, wrote: > Well it seems Jolla will not make a new device soon. So in case somebody > has an answer to my previous question, I'm still listening ;). > > > TOH is only Jolla feature, not 3rd party developers of course. Talk to > > these companies and ask them to implement TOH in their sailfishos devices > > :) > > > > 03.06.2015 23:02, Martin Kolman пишет: > >> Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:46:02 +0200 schif...@polytech.unice.fr: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I have heard there will be new official Sailfish phone manifacturers. > >>> On > >>> this smartphones will the Android apps be supported ? If yes, does it > >>> mean > >>> that all the smartphones with Sailfish will have Alien Dalvik > >>> available ? > >> Also what about the ToH concept ? It would be a shame to loose it on new > >> devices just when the first ToH keyboards start shipping... > >> > >> (BTW, as most current ToHs use 3D printed components it does not > >> necessarily > >> need to be mechanically compatible, just electrically - and even that > >> is not > >> that important. In short - any interface that makes it possible to > >> mechanically > >> attach something to the back of the device + power & data & interrupt > >> channel > >> would do.) > >> > >> Best Wishes > >> Martin > >>> > >>> Best Regards, > >>> Alexandre Schifano > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > >>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > >>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > >> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > >> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > > > > ___ > > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Commercial apps - when?
Am I dreaming or each time somebody ask for an ETA of payment system in the store, a bunch of smartasses arrive to make an apology of donations? Marcin asked a question, he got an answer. If you want to speak about how donations are wonderful, open your own thread. Alex. On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Martin Kolman wrote: > Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:22:43 +0200 Marcin M. > : > > Martin: free software is really great unless you have to pay for a place > to sleep and for stuff to eat, e.g. as a univerisity student. You don't get > a big revenue from donations unless you create something really big (e.g. > the Whatsapp clients). And you rarely create big stuff. If you need money > for such things, a payment in a store is superior to a donation method. > Correct me if I'm wrong. > > Of course you can't depend on donations as your sole source of income > (well, unless you re developing Dwarf Fortress[0] :) ), but they are still > a nice appreciation of all the hard work developers do *in their free* time > to give software and applications to users *for free*. So it is should be > as easy as possible for users to appreciate the work developers of free > (and often also open source) software do, preferably by directly > integration it in the application repository. > > And I don't think you can say donations and payments can be superior to > each other as I see them as two separate things that might even be > sometimes combined (I can actually imagine someone sending a donation to > the author of a paid > application if the person really likes the app). > > Best Wishes > Martin Kolman > > [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_Fortress#History > > > > -- > Marcin > > 2015-04-17 0:49 GMT+02:00 Martin Kolman : > >> Thu, 16 Apr 2015 05:27:46 + Karl Granström > >: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We are still working hard on it but the tablet support work has been >>> eating our resources from this area. But some good news is that we are >>> planing to launch the donation support in Store in really near future. >>> >> That's a really good news! Especially for for developers that don't want >> to place any artificial barriers (such as requiring a payment) between >> users and their applications but still want to give the users a way of >> showing their gratitude and helping with furter development. :) This seems >> to work quite nicely in the Mozilla extension repository and elsewhere, so >> it is really good the see it also coming to the Jolla store. :) >> >> Best Wishes >> Martin Kolman >> >> >>> Br, >>> Karl >>> >>> On 15 Apr 2015, at 20:06, Marcin M. wrote: Hi, Any ETA for the support for commercial apps for Sailfish? IIRC, it was the second half of 2014, :) so time long past :) Regards, -- Marcin ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>> ___ >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >>> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >>> >> >> >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >> > > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > > > > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish OS porting request
> > Talking about voicemail notifications: > https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/voicemail-notifications > Works like a charm BTW. Alex. > > 16.02.2015 18:43, Goulagman пишет: > > Why don't you use your backup Lumia 521 then? >> > > Because it is a US phone and I live in Europe so I don't have 4G (I > bought it because I spent 6 months in the US). Also, I use Android apps > everyday to see the delays on train services and the application only > exists for Android and iPhones. > > >> But if you have to be >> somehow reachable all the time, then voicemail can be a good thing. >> > > I don't see why I should change my usage because of a phone limitations. > The phone should adapt to my needs. But this is only one problem among > others. That won't be a problem for long I think because somebody fixed it, > but I don't want to have to install openrepos and download patches. > > >> Other things I don't see being necessary in most cases, why would you >> want to send multimega attachement in email anyway? Or do you mean by >> mistake? >> > > I did it by mistake. It shouldn't completely freeze the phone. > > Alex. > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish OS porting request
> > Why don't you use your backup Lumia 521 then? > Because it is a US phone and I live in Europe so I don't have 4G (I bought it because I spent 6 months in the US). Also, I use Android apps everyday to see the delays on train services and the application only exists for Android and iPhones. > But if you have to be > somehow reachable all the time, then voicemail can be a good thing. > I don't see why I should change my usage because of a phone limitations. The phone should adapt to my needs. But this is only one problem among others. That won't be a problem for long I think because somebody fixed it, but I don't want to have to install openrepos and download patches. > Other things I don't see being necessary in most cases, why would you > want to send multimega attachement in email anyway? Or do you mean by > mistake? > I did it by mistake. It shouldn't completely freeze the phone. Alex. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish OS porting request
> > Don't be so negatif :) My message was obviously a taunt. However, I am really frustrated by the phone. After more than one year, it is still not usable for an everyday use. The stack just under Silica/Sailfish though, is amazing. A phone with GNU > Coreutils and Python pre-installed! That's really all I've ever wanted. The stack is a Linux. Yes, this is what I want too. But the lack of essential functions is terrible. What do you mean by "SailfishOS doesn't work well on Jolla"? I'm talking about essential features that are missing. I won't talk about the ergonomy of the OS. It is supposed to be revolutionary and I just find it horrible. Connecting to a WiFi network is a nightmare. But I guess that it is personal taste. Non exhaustive list: - No notification on voicemail. This one made me miss *very important* messages before I realized what was happening. Today, I have to call my voicemail twice a day to be sure not to miss one. Even the new ubuntu phone and firefox os phone works for that. The lack of this feature is, in my sense, unacceptable. https://together.jolla.com/question/8779/no-notification-when-new-voicemail/ - Non threaded mails in mail app. https://together.jolla.com/question/337/option-threaded-view-in-mail-app/ - I had to put a paper under my battery to make the phone work. Otherwise there is no contact between the battery and the phone and I have random shutdowns. I know that this problem cannot be solved as it is hardware, but this is really a shame for a smartphone. - If you attach a big file to a mail (several hundreds of Megabytes), the phone becomes unusable. The battery is drained, all applications are killed randomly until the faulty mail is deleted (which is hard because the mail app is killed or doesn't work at all). - Links between facebook contacts and gmail contacts are not saved. Since I have to reset my phone from factory every 6 months (because this is always the first thing people ask you when you have a problem), I have to make all the links by hand again. - The camera is terrible. I had to buy another phone for business at some point. I took the cheapest Windows Phone I could find (Lumia 521) and the photos taken by this phone look better than the one on the Jolla. - Sailfish utils: this is a useful toolbox but I shouldn't have to use any of these functions. The phone should be working fine without my intervention. This menu is the proof that something is wrong. When I bought my Jolla, I found the interface better than Android phones. Now, Android has evolved and Jolla has not. Honestly, I would totally give up on the interesting features to have a phone that works. Alex. On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Nicolas CARTRON wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > 2015-02-16 10:24 GMT+00:00 Goulagman : > > > > Hi Himanshu, > > > > Since Sailfish OS doesn't even work well on the Jolla, I would suggest > you > > to stick to Android if it's your only phone ;). I've been using it since > > the beginning and I'm counting days to my next birthday so I can ask for > an > > Android device. > > What do you mean by "SailfishOS doesn't work well on Jolla"? > I'm using it as my daily phone for more than one year now, and am more > than happy with it, > even though there are still some bits and pieces missing, but I wouldn't > say it does not work well :) > > -- > Nicolas > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish OS porting request
Hi Himanshu, Since Sailfish OS doesn't even work well on the Jolla, I would suggest you to stick to Android if it's your only phone ;). I've been using it since the beginning and I'm counting days to my next birthday so I can ask for an Android device. My 2 cents, Alexandre. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Anand.R.Kris wrote: > Hi Himanshu, > > I suggest the below forums for discussions related to installing > SailfishOS on other mobiles. > >1. > >IRC channel #sailfishos-porters where you can get help. >2. > >http://forum.xda-developers.com/jolla-sailfish/general >3. > >http://talk.maemo.org/ > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Himanshu Shahi < > himanshugeeky...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello I am fan of Sailfish OS , I don't own a Jolla device but can I ask >> you to officially support our device. Its called Xiaomi Redmi 1S. I know >> you wouldnt consider the request of one person but still can you port a >> Sailfish OS to the device. Please >> >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> To unsubscribe, please send a mail to >> devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Anand Radhakrishnan > When there is a drive, there is a path. [C:\>] > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Kernel bug in /proc/stat
Hello, I have the same bug but I haven't spotted any pattern in my use of the phone that could provoke that. That's random. Alex. On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Philippe De Swert < philippe.desw...@jolla.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > On 16/07/14 21:51, Ales Katona wrote: > >> Here's an example of a bogus cpu usage reported by top on the phone. >> Regression still present with latest release. >> >> http://www.bistrecode.com/jolla_top_bug.png >> > > I saw the post on tjc and here. However I have not seen the behaviour. Do > you have some info on workload or whatever when this occurs? Because this > might be situation specific. > > Thanks, > > Philippe > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. > sailfishos.org > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Recover WLAN password
Thank you for the answer. The information is there but unfortunately it requires root access :-/ Alex. On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:48 AM, wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Try /var/lib/connman (and the subfolders). > > Cheers, > Lucien > > - Mail original - > De: "Goulagman" > À: "Sailfish OS Developers" > Envoyé: Vendredi 6 Juin 2014 17:44:38 > Objet: [SailfishDevel] Recover WLAN password > > > > Hi, > > > I'm working on an information retrieval / backup app and, despite all my > efforts, I can't find where the WLAN keys are stored. I thought that they > would be available through gconftool but I can't see them. > > > Any hint? > > > Thanks! > > > Alex. > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to > devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Recover WLAN password
Hi, I'm working on an information retrieval / backup app and, despite all my efforts, I can't find where the WLAN keys are stored. I thought that they would be available through gconftool but I can't see them. Any hint? Thanks! Alex. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Acceptable Behaviour Guidelines - you decide
Hi, As per the tools I think the tools are not so relevant as long as the > community finds its way to discuss. Personally I don't love forums but that > is only my preference, as I don't like pizza with pineapple. > I think it's becoming too personal here. As a fervent defender of pizzas with pineapple, this is an attack against my most innermost beliefs. Apart from that, I think that news groups are a good alternative to forums. People using a mailing list would be slightly disturbed by the change (as newsgroups can be used like mailing lists) and the newsgroups interface is very close to a forum. Alex. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Stefano Mosconi wrote: > > Sorry Alexander, you are now putting words in my mouth... > > My answer was: > > > "This is a private issue that does not belong here nor to Jolla." > > I didn't say: "Jolla has nothing to say on this case." > > We will have a community meeting today where the issue will be discussed > (with Jolla and community) as it happens in every community. Sorry for that. I was aware that the topic would be raised in the community meeting, I wanted to say "Jolla has nothing more to say on this case for the moment". I'm French and my English is not perfect ;). >From now on I mute this topic. Filip, you had a chance of making your point during the community meeting and you didn't take it. I'm not gonna read your wall of text. From my PoV, Jolla gave you a chance to state your case publicly and you missed it. I see no witch-hunt in the IRC logs, I only see people a bit puzzled by your silence and that cannot move forward because you're not answering their questions. It appears that Thomas Perl does not want to talk to you, that is why he remains silent. So I think the protocol at this point would be to talk to you and then get back to thp and do back and forth. If you don't want to talk when it's your turn, then it's also your right, but then don't complain that you don't have the answers you asked for. Alex. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Tone Kastlunger wrote: > But Jolla has nix & nada to do with this, IMO. In including the company, > you are hurting the company. > Let's put it this way: you are the CEO of a company. You hire an engineer. After a while, you discover that this engineer has personal issues with a customer and exclude him from events related to the company because of that. As a CEO, I wouldn't allow this to happen. No matter your personal reasons, you have to treat each customer equally. I would understand that you avoid contact with this customer unless you have to, but the company should not suffer from your personal concerns. But maybe I'm the only one thinking like that? Anyway, I think that this thread was kind of closed by Stefano's answer: Jolla has nothing to say on this case. If Thomas Perl wanted to talk, he would have done it long ago. I feel sorry for you Filip but I think you won't get any help here. Alex. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
Hello Stefano, Thanks for your answer. this is a private issue that does not belong here nor to Jolla. It's > difficult to separate the personal problem sphere from the answer to your > questions. > I have tried to sort out the public matter out of all these personal problems. I'm gonna be selfish this time. I like Python, I think that it is a wonderful language and may code python applications for my Jolla once I'll get more free time. Apparently, Thomas Perl is one of the guy in Jolla to work with Python. If, at some point, I get in personal trouble with this guy, I hope he won't exclude me from any public event because of that, and especially using Jolla as a lever. Believe me, I already experienced a really tricky situation where I had to work with somebody I had huge personal problems with. And it never affected professional matters because we put a clear separation between the two. In this case, some personal matters seems to have lead to a public action: asking for the exclusion of somebody from a public event. >From your answer, I understand that such a request was made and motivated by personal reasons. Again, I don't point any fingers, but this fact will just add up to the list of all doubts I already have regarding Jolla and what's happening in the community around. Best, Alexandre. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
Hi Filip, *TL;DR: read only the bold paragraph.* I am not interested in personal problems either. However, from what I read, I understand that you only posted here as a last resort. I think that other people could take that into account before making any critics. Your mail is very dense, maybe that is why it is hard for people to give an accurate answer. So, if I take apart the private concerns, and what happened before Jolla, that leaves me with two points: IRC and Metalab. Regarding IRC, I can see on the log that your questions remained unanswered until somebody higlights thp. But, given the length of the logs, I don't know if it's accidental or not. So I will left this point apart too. That leaves me with the *Hack-a-Jolla* event. You claim that Thomas Perl has asked the organizer to exclude you from the event. I think that this can be checked easily by mailing Christian Ratzenhofer. For me, this is a very serious concern, especially because he acts as a representative of the Jolla company. I think that this affects each and every person in the mailing list as anybody could be kicked out of any event because of personal reasons. *So I think that an official answer from Jolla is required on these particular questions: Apparently, a request has been made by one of your employee to exclude a developer from a public event. Could you clarify the situation? Do you confirm that this has happen? If so, what was the motivation? Has Filip received proper apologies if this problem was on your side? Can you ensure that it won't happen again?* I'm not pointing fingers at Jolla, I just tried to raise up the questions that are pertinent in this list and could be of interest for other people. I'm afraid that without any further proofs of people supporting one side or another, we can't go further on this complaint. But that's only my opinion. Best, Alex. On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Filip Kłębczyk wrote: > W dniu 20.05.2014 20:52, Mikael Hermansson pisze: > > Sorry but you are out of line now. Your gave your point in your first >> post but keep repeating in this mailinglist is pointless! >> >> The mailinglist is for development. I am personally not intrested >> reading flamewar in here! Now if you want to continue do it elsewhere >> like TMO or similar >> >> / >> >> mike7b4 >> > > You are free to not read the thread or filter it out in your mail app. On > sailfishos.org there is a section Community in the bottom-left corner and > there is a link to this mailing list. I see it as most appropriate place - > IRC is not suitable for longer messages and wiki isn't rather a correct > place for expressing opinions. > > > Regards, > Filip > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. > sailfishos.org > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Getting SMS notifications
Hello, I am trying to build an application that triggers an alarm when a particular word is written in a SMS. The first step is to be warned whan a SMS is received. I have searched but I can't find how to do that. I have an application using telepathy-qt to send an SMS, so I guess that it is also possible to be warned when one is received. Is there a standard way to do that ? Best, Alexandre. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
