Re: [SailfishDevel] [API] Ambience DBus API
On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:20:30 +0200 Tomasz Sterna to...@xiaoka.com wrote: I can't actually imagine one except the colorset change notification but if I understand correctly Silica's Theme object already contains current ambience colors. SDL apps may find useful to get ambience colours to paint UI accordingly, without round trip to QML. You can do that already now by using MGConfItem from mlite and monitor the dconf keys related to colors ;-) MGconfItem is harbour whitelisted. The dconf key paths are not official API however. Cheers, ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] [API] Ambience DBus API
Dnia 2014-07-23, śro o godzinie 09:18 +0600, Dmitriy Purgin pisze:
could you please describe a use case where such an API could be useful
outside the already existing ambience creator/changer?
Web Based Ambience sharing service + companion app to browse, download
and set ambience.
I can't actually imagine one except the colorset change notification but if I
understand correctly Silica's Theme object already contains current
ambience colors.
SDL apps may find useful to get ambience colours to paint UI
accordingly, without round trip to QML.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [API] Ambience DBus API
Hi Lucien, I think a notification when the ambience changes is also interesting. Then application can not only set ambiences depending on certain conditions, but can also listen for and respond to a changed ambience. Regards, Stijn On 22/07/2014 19:19, sfietkonstan...@free.fr wrote: Hello list, Following what has been decided during today's Sailfish OSS meeting, I would like to open a first discussion about internal API to be provided for developers to take advantages of all the capabilities of Sailfish OS. One of the specific capabilities of Sailfish OS is the ambience system. It's a profile system that is extended to changing the whole phone (currently wallpaper + sounds). Accessing this feature is currently done via a QML module (Sailfish.Ambience), that is only usable from privileged applications. It can also be accessed via an userspace daemon, *ambienced*, that provides a DBus API accessible through com.jolla.ambienced. This API is quite limited as it only allows setting an ambience from an image. I can understand that allowing the QML module to be used might cause problems, either with API breakage, or with security, since the Ambience db is privileged for a reason. In the other hand, the DBus API is safer: an API change will only trigger a runtime error, and the API can be made to only leak minimal data for the developer. That's why I'm asking to extend this API to allow developers to take advantage of Ambiences. I would like to discuss with you about the API the developers want to see for Ambience, and what sailors can provide. What I expect personally as a basis would be - Setting an ambience (already existing) - Getting the list of favourited ambiences (name + image path) Some more advanced API can be welcomed too - Getting a favourited ambience highlight colors - Favouriting / unfavouriting an ambience TJC post is here: https://together.jolla.com/question/51602/api-discussion-ambience-dbus-api/ It is a wiki and will be used to log the final APIs when a concensus has been reached, to have a basic documentation for devs, and a todolist for sailors. Feel free to elaborate on this topic, propose more APIs or detail those I proposed (the best would be to provide a DBus introspect XML file). You are also free to post a new thread on ML about other APIs you want to see from Jolla. Regards, Lucien PS: link for today's meeting minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-07-22-10.03.html ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] [API] Ambience DBus API
Hello list, Following what has been decided during today's Sailfish OSS meeting, I would like to open a first discussion about internal API to be provided for developers to take advantages of all the capabilities of Sailfish OS. One of the specific capabilities of Sailfish OS is the ambience system. It's a profile system that is extended to changing the whole phone (currently wallpaper + sounds). Accessing this feature is currently done via a QML module (Sailfish.Ambience), that is only usable from privileged applications. It can also be accessed via an userspace daemon, *ambienced*, that provides a DBus API accessible through com.jolla.ambienced. This API is quite limited as it only allows setting an ambience from an image. I can understand that allowing the QML module to be used might cause problems, either with API breakage, or with security, since the Ambience db is privileged for a reason. In the other hand, the DBus API is safer: an API change will only trigger a runtime error, and the API can be made to only leak minimal data for the developer. That's why I'm asking to extend this API to allow developers to take advantage of Ambiences. I would like to discuss with you about the API the developers want to see for Ambience, and what sailors can provide. What I expect personally as a basis would be - Setting an ambience (already existing) - Getting the list of favourited ambiences (name + image path) Some more advanced API can be welcomed too - Getting a favourited ambience highlight colors - Favouriting / unfavouriting an ambience TJC post is here: https://together.jolla.com/question/51602/api-discussion-ambience-dbus-api/ It is a wiki and will be used to log the final APIs when a concensus has been reached, to have a basic documentation for devs, and a todolist for sailors. Feel free to elaborate on this topic, propose more APIs or detail those I proposed (the best would be to provide a DBus introspect XML file). You are also free to post a new thread on ML about other APIs you want to see from Jolla. Regards, Lucien PS: link for today's meeting minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-07-22-10.03.html ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] [API] Ambience DBus API
Hello, could you please describe a use case where such an API could be useful outside the already existing ambience creator/changer? I can't actually imagine one except the colorset change notification but if I understand correctly Silica's Theme object already contains current ambience colors. I understand that although as for now Ambience consists of wallpaper and ringtone only, it can be changed in future but in my opinion the corresponding APIs should follow such a change. Cheers Dmitriy Purgin 2014-07-22 23:19 GMT+06:00 sfietkonstan...@free.fr: Hello list, Following what has been decided during today's Sailfish OSS meeting, I would like to open a first discussion about internal API to be provided for developers to take advantages of all the capabilities of Sailfish OS. One of the specific capabilities of Sailfish OS is the ambience system. It's a profile system that is extended to changing the whole phone (currently wallpaper + sounds). Accessing this feature is currently done via a QML module (Sailfish.Ambience), that is only usable from privileged applications. It can also be accessed via an userspace daemon, *ambienced*, that provides a DBus API accessible through com.jolla.ambienced. This API is quite limited as it only allows setting an ambience from an image. I can understand that allowing the QML module to be used might cause problems, either with API breakage, or with security, since the Ambience db is privileged for a reason. In the other hand, the DBus API is safer: an API change will only trigger a runtime error, and the API can be made to only leak minimal data for the developer. That's why I'm asking to extend this API to allow developers to take advantage of Ambiences. I would like to discuss with you about the API the developers want to see for Ambience, and what sailors can provide. What I expect personally as a basis would be - Setting an ambience (already existing) - Getting the list of favourited ambiences (name + image path) Some more advanced API can be welcomed too - Getting a favourited ambience highlight colors - Favouriting / unfavouriting an ambience TJC post is here: https://together.jolla.com/question/51602/api-discussion-ambience-dbus-api/ It is a wiki and will be used to log the final APIs when a concensus has been reached, to have a basic documentation for devs, and a todolist for sailors. Feel free to elaborate on this topic, propose more APIs or detail those I proposed (the best would be to provide a DBus introspect XML file). You are also free to post a new thread on ML about other APIs you want to see from Jolla. Regards, Lucien PS: link for today's meeting minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-07-22-10.03.html ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
