[ovirt-devel] Re: oVirt migration to stable OS?

2022-05-17 Thread Sandro Bonazzola 
Il giorno lun 16 mag 2022 alle ore 18:09  ha
scritto:

> Sandro,
>
> I am sorry for picking the wrong forum to post into, it seemed a naturally
> correct place because I was suggesting a shift in the development choices
> being made for oVirt and how it is produced.
>
> I hear what you are saying. However, that means that all the ISOs that are
> published for people to download based on CentOS are going to be viewed by
> the Linux community that has an interest in trying oVirt as a potential
> learning path to RHV as alpha/beta quality. CentOS since "going upstream"
> has been heavily devalued by the open source community for useful testing
> or any real work. Again, that is just a fact or people would not be in a
> mad rush to move to Rocky Linux or Alma Linux. At any rate, just my two
> cents worth which may be all my opinion is worth! :)
>
> I am not trying to be argumentative, just I think that supplying oVirt
> using an underpinning OS that is quality based as opposed to CentOS would
> be a worthy endeavor to encourage interest in oVirt.
>
> Although I have not had a chance to gather and post the facts together, I
> did try to do an install of it in my ProxMox virtualized environment (again
> for testing) and met with a number of issues causing a failed installation
> and eventually gave up. Now that I realize it is CentOS based, I am not
> even think it is worth dealing with as the result will not be a production
> quality install. I will read the link you provided regarding installing
> oVirt on REL or a "derivative clone".
>
> Thanks for your most brisk and thoughtful response and I wish you a
> healthy and safe day in these challenging times.
>

With regards to ISOs and appliance, I got in touch with both Alma Linux and
Rocky Linux explaining how to build an oVirt Node ISO based on their own
repositories so they can ship them through their mirrors. Also discussed on
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/us...@ovirt.org/message/LLKJKW22FAYPY2GOGNHXVABKSIWT7IMG/

Issue is we lack capacity and resources for rebuilding oVirt for all
possible CentOS Stream derivatives. So I would be happy to help Rocky and
Alma rebuild their own flavor of oVirt Node but we can't really commit to
maintaining those builds and keeping them tested.

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[ovirt-devel] Re: oVirt migration to stable OS?

2022-05-16 Thread stuart . tener 
Sandro,

I am sorry for picking the wrong forum to post into, it seemed a naturally 
correct place because I was suggesting a shift in the development choices being 
made for oVirt and how it is produced.

I hear what you are saying. However, that means that all the ISOs that are 
published for people to download based on CentOS are going to be viewed by the 
Linux community that has an interest in trying oVirt as a potential learning 
path to RHV as alpha/beta quality. CentOS since "going upstream" has been 
heavily devalued by the open source community for useful testing or any real 
work. Again, that is just a fact or people would not be in a mad rush to move 
to Rocky Linux or Alma Linux. At any rate, just my two cents worth which may be 
all my opinion is worth! :)

I am not trying to be argumentative, just I think that supplying oVirt using an 
underpinning OS that is quality based as opposed to CentOS would be a worthy 
endeavor to encourage interest in oVirt.

Although I have not had a chance to gather and post the facts together, I did 
try to do an install of it in my ProxMox virtualized environment (again for 
testing) and met with a number of issues causing a failed installation and 
eventually gave up. Now that I realize it is CentOS based, I am not even think 
it is worth dealing with as the result will not be a production quality 
install. I will read the link you provided regarding installing oVirt on REL or 
a "derivative clone".

Thanks for your most brisk and thoughtful response and I wish you a healthy and 
safe day in these challenging times.


Stuart
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[ovirt-devel] Re: oVirt migration to stable OS?

2022-05-16 Thread Sandro Bonazzola 
I would have discussed this in user mailing list rather than in development
mailing list.
Anyway, you're welcome to run oVirt on RHEL, Alma, Rocky, Oracle, it should
work perfectly fine on RHEL 8.6 and derivatives.
Prerequisite for using them: https://ovirt.org/download/install_on_rhel.html

We are using CentOS Stream as a development platform as it will give us
insight on what will come next.
But for a production environment it's totally fine not using CentOS Stream.

Il giorno lun 16 mag 2022 alle ore 16:50  ha
scritto:

> Developers,
>
> I had not tried oVirt in a while and recently downloaded it and installed
> it. I noticed it is using the beta-ware/non-production CentOS Stream now.
> Is there any movement afoot to adopt Alma Linux or Rocky Linux so that it
> has an actual production distribution to run on? It seems a very nice
> environment and quite a shame to poison that environment with a
> non-production distribution underpinning it.
>
> What say you?
>
> Stuart
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