Re: [Development] Leaving The Qt Company
Hi Samuel, Thanks! It’s indeed been quite a ride, and I'd like to also thank you for being there and all the work you’ve been doing for the community over the years. Cheers, Lars > On 18 May 2022, at 10:51, Samuel Gaist wrote: > > Hi Lars, > > Thank you for the ride ! > > The road has seen some bumps but your teams and you have managed to keep Qt > moving forward in interesting ways through all these years. > > It has been a pleasure to work with you on some of my contributions. > > All the best for your new journey ! > > Samuel > >> On 18 May 2022, at 10:27, Lars Knoll wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Let’s take the big news first. I’ve resigned from my position at The Qt >> Company. More on that and what it means for the Qt Project further below. >> >> >> But as I’ve spent almost exactly 25 years in the Qt ecosystem, 22 of those >> working for the various companies owning Qt, I hope it’s ok if this gets a >> bit longer and I spend some paragraphs looking back into history. >> >> As said, it’s been almost exactly 25 years, since I first heard about Qt. At >> that time, I read an article in the German C’t computer magazine about a new >> Desktop project for Linux called KDE. The underlying technology being used >> was Qt. As a person that used Linux extensively during his studies, I >> immediately got interested and it didn’t take long until I started my first >> steps learning Qt. >> >> As some of you might know I got involved rather deeply about a year or two >> later, when I started the KHTML project to create a new HTML engine for KDE >> in 1998/1999. That project was later forked by Apple to form the basis for >> their WebKit project, the Safari browser and Google’s Chrome browser. It's >> cool to think that the browser engine(s) that most people use today started >> off as a Qt based project all those years ago. >> >> I remember getting to know some of the people working for Trolltech back >> then at KDE conferences. In the winter of 2000, they invited me over to Oslo >> to have a look at Qt. The company was at that time still tiny with 11 or 12 >> employees. I got a great tour of Oslo including the ski jumping tournament >> at Holmenkollen and signed up for the job. >> >> I was originally expecting to spend 2-3 years at Trolltech and then at some >> point move back to Germany. As you all can see, that’s not how it went >> though. I ended up staying in Norway and have been working with and for Qt >> ever since. >> >> Starting with Qt 1.0, Trolltech released the source code to Qt (at that time >> only for Linux/Unix), and the Open Source nature of Qt played a big part in >> its success. I’m very happy that we could continue on that path, by over >> time making all platforms Qt supports available as Open Source as well as >> moving over to more standard and freer licensing (first GPL, later LGPL). >> >> At the end of the Trolltech years, we started looking into how to make it >> easier for the community to contribute to Qt, and first had a model where >> our users could submit patches to us. That never really worked very well, >> and I’m really happy that we moved over to our current governance model in >> 2011. Since then Qt has truly been an Open Source project. >> When Qt got sold by Nokia in 2012, many people considered it a dead >> technology. But I and many of you believed in the technology, and together >> we’ve managed to turn this into a great success. >> >> As you all know, Qt is a dual licensed technology. That Qt has the backing >> of a commercial business behind it, is what made the required investments >> possible to keep the technology competitive. >> >> I’m extremely proud of what we achieved with Qt over the last 10 years. It >> happened because everybody on this list put in a lot of work into making Qt >> one of the best development frameworks on this planet. >> >> Qt is something that I care deeply about. I’ve been with it all the way and >> through all the ups and downs from when Trolltech got its first larger >> investment to now. But seeing what you all are doing, I know it’s in very >> good hands moving forward. >> >> >> >> Leaving The Qt Company and in the future spending most of my time outside >> the Qt ecosystem has been a difficult decision. But in the end, after those >> 25 years, it does feel very much like the right decision for me. I want to >> try out something else. >> >> So I will be joining a small Norwegian startup with one of the founders of >> Trolltech. While still in Software, it’ll be something rather different, not >> related to C++ or developer tools. >> >> >> >> So how do things continue from here? >> >> First of all, I’ll still be working for Qt until my summer vacations at the >> end of June. >> >> After that, I will have significantly less time for Qt, but I certainly >> won’t be completely gone. I will continue to read the Qt project mailing >> lists and maybe come by for
Re: [Development] Leaving The Qt Company
On 18/5/2022 6:27 PM, Lars Knoll wrote: As some of you might know I got involved rather deeply about a year or two later, when I started the KHTML project to create a new HTML engine for KDE in 1998/1999. That project was later forked by Apple to form the basis for their WebKit project, the Safari browser and Google’s Chrome browser. It's cool to think that the browser engine(s) that most people use today started off as a Qt based project all those years ago. Certainly been a bumpy ride at times, but with your help Qt has grown into Qt Everywhere. hahahaha. and is in so many unbelievable products now! Congrats on the new digs! I am sure we will be hearing more about it in the future. Thanks again! -- Lorn Potter ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Leaving The Qt Company
Hi Lars, On Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2022 10:27:03 CEST Lars Knoll wrote: > Hi all, > Let’s take the big news first. I’ve resigned from my position at The Qt > Company. More on that and what it means for the Qt Project further below. > But as I’ve spent almost exactly 25 years in the Qt ecosystem, 22 of those > working for the various companies owning Qt, I hope it’s ok if this gets a > bit longer and I spend some paragraphs looking back into history. > As said, > it’s been almost exactly 25 years, since I first heard about Qt. At that > time, I read an article in the German C’t computer magazine about a new > Desktop project for Linux called KDE. The underlying technology being used > was Qt. As a person that used Linux extensively during his studies, I > immediately got interested and it didn’t take long until I started my first > steps learning Qt. As some of you might know I got involved rather deeply > about a year or two later, when I started the KHTML project to create a new > HTML engine for KDE in 1998/1999. I want to thank you very much for all the effort and the great work you have done for KDE and Qt in all those years since the C't article (I think I read exactly the same one and then tried Qt back then). After such a long time is certainly a good decision to take on new challenges. I wish you all the best, fun and excitement in your new job ! :-) Viele Grüsse Alex ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Leaving The Qt Company
Many thanks for all your fantastic work on and around Qt! And good luck with your new startup :-) On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 10:30, Lars Knoll wrote: > Hi all, > > Let’s take the big news first. I’ve resigned from my position at The Qt > Company. More on that and what it means for the Qt Project further below. > > But as I’ve spent almost exactly 25 years in the Qt ecosystem, 22 of those > working for the various companies owning Qt, I hope it’s ok if this gets a > bit longer and I spend some paragraphs looking back into history. > > As said, it’s been almost exactly 25 years, since I first heard about Qt. > At that time, I read an article in the German C’t computer magazine about a > new Desktop project for Linux called KDE. The underlying technology being > used was Qt. As a person that used Linux extensively during his studies, I > immediately got interested and it didn’t take long until I started my first > steps learning Qt. > > As some of you might know I got involved rather deeply about a year or two > later, when I started the KHTML project to create a new HTML engine for KDE > in 1998/1999. That project was later forked by Apple to form the basis for > their WebKit project, the Safari browser and Google’s Chrome browser. It's > cool to think that the browser engine(s) that most people use today started > off as a Qt based project all those years ago. > > I remember getting to know some of the people working for Trolltech back > then at KDE conferences. In the winter of 2000, they invited me over to > Oslo to have a look at Qt. The company was at that time still tiny with 11 > or 12 employees. I got a great tour of Oslo including the ski jumping > tournament at Holmenkollen and signed up for the job. > > I was originally expecting to spend 2-3 years at Trolltech and then at > some point move back to Germany. As you all can see, that’s not how it went > though. I ended up staying in Norway and have been working with and for Qt > ever since. > > Starting with Qt 1.0, Trolltech released the source code to Qt (at that > time only for Linux/Unix), and the Open Source nature of Qt played a big > part in its success. I’m very happy that we could continue on that path, by > over time making all platforms Qt supports available as Open Source as well > as moving over to more standard and freer licensing (first GPL, later LGPL). > At the end of the Trolltech years, we started looking into how to make it > easier for the community to contribute to Qt, and first had a model where > our users could submit patches to us. That never really worked very well, > and I’m really happy that we moved over to our current governance model in > 2011. Since then Qt has truly been an Open Source project. > > When Qt got sold by Nokia in 2012, many people considered it a dead > technology. But I and many of you believed in the technology, and together > we’ve managed to turn this into a great success. > > As you all know, Qt is a dual licensed technology. That Qt has the backing > of a commercial business behind it, is what made the required investments > possible to keep the technology competitive. > > I’m extremely proud of what we achieved with Qt over the last 10 years. It > happened because everybody on this list put in a lot of work into making Qt > one of the best development frameworks on this planet. > > Qt is something that I care deeply about. I’ve been with it all the way > and through all the ups and downs from when Trolltech got its first larger > investment to now. But seeing what you all are doing, I know it’s in very > good hands moving forward. > > > Leaving The Qt Company and in the future spending most of my time outside > the Qt ecosystem has been a difficult decision. But in the end, after those > 25 years, it does feel very much like the right decision for me. I want to > try out something else. > > So I will be joining a small Norwegian startup with one of the founders of > Trolltech. While still in Software, it’ll be something rather different, > not related to C++ or developer tools. > > > So how do things continue from here? > > First of all, I’ll still be working for Qt until my summer vacations at > the end of June. > > After that, I will have significantly less time for Qt, but I certainly > won’t be completely gone. I will continue to read the Qt project mailing > lists and maybe come by for events such as the Contributor or World Summit. > Also, feel free to send me a mail at any time, I’ll try to help where I can. > I will also keep my position as a maintainer for Qt Multimedia. I believe > the module is now in a decent shape, and I should be able to spend some > hours per week on it. > > But a few hours per week will certainly not be enough to fill the work I’m > currently doing for Qt. So, I have decided to resign from my position as > the Chief Maintainer of the Qt project. I’ll send more details around this > in a separate mail. > > I’d like to thank everybody whom I’ve worked with over the
Re: [Development] Leaving The Qt Company
I was really surprised to hear that you are leaving, but it’s good that you will still be around. It must have been an amazing experience to start a new web browser in those days. I still think QTextDocument and its related classes and views have relevance, even though today’s browsers left them far behind. So I hope that we can continue making them more feature-complete within the limited scope that is defined for them. I keep wondering if we could find a small set of changes that have already been done elsewhere in the other projects, probably within the first months after one of the forks, that would make those classes just a bit more flexible without adding bloat. Anyway, good luck in the new venture. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Leaving The Qt Company
Hi Lars, Best of luck on your new endeavour! It was a pleasure working with you throughout the years. I think you have done a fantastic job ensuring that Qt has moved in a good direction in your capacity as Chief Maintainer. It is no easy task to balance commercial objectives as well as contributor and community requirements to ensure that the goals of the Qt Project are best served, and in my opinion you have managed to do so with both pragmatism and kindness. Best regards, Chris. On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 6:30 PM Lars Knoll wrote: > > Hi all, > > Let’s take the big news first. I’ve resigned from my position at The Qt > Company. More on that and what it means for the Qt Project further below. > > > But as I’ve spent almost exactly 25 years in the Qt ecosystem, 22 of those > working for the various companies owning Qt, I hope it’s ok if this gets a > bit longer and I spend some paragraphs looking back into history. > > As said, it’s been almost exactly 25 years, since I first heard about Qt. At > that time, I read an article in the German C’t computer magazine about a new > Desktop project for Linux called KDE. The underlying technology being used > was Qt. As a person that used Linux extensively during his studies, I > immediately got interested and it didn’t take long until I started my first > steps learning Qt. > > As some of you might know I got involved rather deeply about a year or two > later, when I started the KHTML project to create a new HTML engine for KDE > in 1998/1999. That project was later forked by Apple to form the basis for > their WebKit project, the Safari browser and Google’s Chrome browser. It's > cool to think that the browser engine(s) that most people use today started > off as a Qt based project all those years ago. > > I remember getting to know some of the people working for Trolltech back then > at KDE conferences. In the winter of 2000, they invited me over to Oslo to > have a look at Qt. The company was at that time still tiny with 11 or 12 > employees. I got a great tour of Oslo including the ski jumping tournament at > Holmenkollen and signed up for the job. > > I was originally expecting to spend 2-3 years at Trolltech and then at some > point move back to Germany. As you all can see, that’s not how it went > though. I ended up staying in Norway and have been working with and for Qt > ever since. > > Starting with Qt 1.0, Trolltech released the source code to Qt (at that time > only for Linux/Unix), and the Open Source nature of Qt played a big part in > its success. I’m very happy that we could continue on that path, by over time > making all platforms Qt supports available as Open Source as well as moving > over to more standard and freer licensing (first GPL, later LGPL). > > At the end of the Trolltech years, we started looking into how to make it > easier for the community to contribute to Qt, and first had a model where our > users could submit patches to us. That never really worked very well, and I’m > really happy that we moved over to our current governance model in 2011. > Since then Qt has truly been an Open Source project. > > When Qt got sold by Nokia in 2012, many people considered it a dead > technology. But I and many of you believed in the technology, and together > we’ve managed to turn this into a great success. > > As you all know, Qt is a dual licensed technology. That Qt has the backing of > a commercial business behind it, is what made the required investments > possible to keep the technology competitive. > > I’m extremely proud of what we achieved with Qt over the last 10 years. It > happened because everybody on this list put in a lot of work into making Qt > one of the best development frameworks on this planet. > > Qt is something that I care deeply about. I’ve been with it all the way and > through all the ups and downs from when Trolltech got its first larger > investment to now. But seeing what you all are doing, I know it’s in very > good hands moving forward. > > > Leaving The Qt Company and in the future spending most of my time outside the > Qt ecosystem has been a difficult decision. But in the end, after those 25 > years, it does feel very much like the right decision for me. I want to try > out something else. > > So I will be joining a small Norwegian startup with one of the founders of > Trolltech. While still in Software, it’ll be something rather different, not > related to C++ or developer tools. > > > So how do things continue from here? > > First of all, I’ll still be working for Qt until my summer vacations at the > end of June. > > After that, I will have significantly less time for Qt, but I certainly won’t > be completely gone. I will continue to read the Qt project mailing lists and > maybe come by for events such as the Contributor or World Summit. Also, feel > free to send me a mail at any time, I’ll try to help where I can. > > I will also keep my position as a
Re: [Development] Leaving The Qt Company
Hi Lars, Thank you for the ride ! The road has seen some bumps but your teams and you have managed to keep Qt moving forward in interesting ways through all these years. It has been a pleasure to work with you on some of my contributions. All the best for your new journey ! Samuel > On 18 May 2022, at 10:27, Lars Knoll wrote: > > Hi all, > > Let’s take the big news first. I’ve resigned from my position at The Qt > Company. More on that and what it means for the Qt Project further below. > > > But as I’ve spent almost exactly 25 years in the Qt ecosystem, 22 of those > working for the various companies owning Qt, I hope it’s ok if this gets a > bit longer and I spend some paragraphs looking back into history. > > As said, it’s been almost exactly 25 years, since I first heard about Qt. At > that time, I read an article in the German C’t computer magazine about a new > Desktop project for Linux called KDE. The underlying technology being used > was Qt. As a person that used Linux extensively during his studies, I > immediately got interested and it didn’t take long until I started my first > steps learning Qt. > > As some of you might know I got involved rather deeply about a year or two > later, when I started the KHTML project to create a new HTML engine for KDE > in 1998/1999. That project was later forked by Apple to form the basis for > their WebKit project, the Safari browser and Google’s Chrome browser. It's > cool to think that the browser engine(s) that most people use today started > off as a Qt based project all those years ago. > > I remember getting to know some of the people working for Trolltech back then > at KDE conferences. In the winter of 2000, they invited me over to Oslo to > have a look at Qt. The company was at that time still tiny with 11 or 12 > employees. I got a great tour of Oslo including the ski jumping tournament at > Holmenkollen and signed up for the job. > > I was originally expecting to spend 2-3 years at Trolltech and then at some > point move back to Germany. As you all can see, that’s not how it went > though. I ended up staying in Norway and have been working with and for Qt > ever since. > > Starting with Qt 1.0, Trolltech released the source code to Qt (at that time > only for Linux/Unix), and the Open Source nature of Qt played a big part in > its success. I’m very happy that we could continue on that path, by over time > making all platforms Qt supports available as Open Source as well as moving > over to more standard and freer licensing (first GPL, later LGPL). > > At the end of the Trolltech years, we started looking into how to make it > easier for the community to contribute to Qt, and first had a model where our > users could submit patches to us. That never really worked very well, and I’m > really happy that we moved over to our current governance model in 2011. > Since then Qt has truly been an Open Source project. > When Qt got sold by Nokia in 2012, many people considered it a dead > technology. But I and many of you believed in the technology, and together > we’ve managed to turn this into a great success. > > As you all know, Qt is a dual licensed technology. That Qt has the backing of > a commercial business behind it, is what made the required investments > possible to keep the technology competitive. > > I’m extremely proud of what we achieved with Qt over the last 10 years. It > happened because everybody on this list put in a lot of work into making Qt > one of the best development frameworks on this planet. > > Qt is something that I care deeply about. I’ve been with it all the way and > through all the ups and downs from when Trolltech got its first larger > investment to now. But seeing what you all are doing, I know it’s in very > good hands moving forward. > > > > Leaving The Qt Company and in the future spending most of my time outside the > Qt ecosystem has been a difficult decision. But in the end, after those 25 > years, it does feel very much like the right decision for me. I want to try > out something else. > > So I will be joining a small Norwegian startup with one of the founders of > Trolltech. While still in Software, it’ll be something rather different, not > related to C++ or developer tools. > > > > So how do things continue from here? > > First of all, I’ll still be working for Qt until my summer vacations at the > end of June. > > After that, I will have significantly less time for Qt, but I certainly won’t > be completely gone. I will continue to read the Qt project mailing lists and > maybe come by for events such as the Contributor or World Summit. Also, feel > free to send me a mail at any time, I’ll try to help where I can. > > I will also keep my position as a maintainer for Qt Multimedia. I believe the > module is now in a decent shape, and I should be able to spend some hours per > week on it. > But a few hours per week will
[Development] Leaving The Qt Company
Hi all, Let’s take the big news first. I’ve resigned from my position at The Qt Company. More on that and what it means for the Qt Project further below. But as I’ve spent almost exactly 25 years in the Qt ecosystem, 22 of those working for the various companies owning Qt, I hope it’s ok if this gets a bit longer and I spend some paragraphs looking back into history. As said, it’s been almost exactly 25 years, since I first heard about Qt. At that time, I read an article in the German C’t computer magazine about a new Desktop project for Linux called KDE. The underlying technology being used was Qt. As a person that used Linux extensively during his studies, I immediately got interested and it didn’t take long until I started my first steps learning Qt. As some of you might know I got involved rather deeply about a year or two later, when I started the KHTML project to create a new HTML engine for KDE in 1998/1999. That project was later forked by Apple to form the basis for their WebKit project, the Safari browser and Google’s Chrome browser. It's cool to think that the browser engine(s) that most people use today started off as a Qt based project all those years ago. I remember getting to know some of the people working for Trolltech back then at KDE conferences. In the winter of 2000, they invited me over to Oslo to have a look at Qt. The company was at that time still tiny with 11 or 12 employees. I got a great tour of Oslo including the ski jumping tournament at Holmenkollen and signed up for the job. I was originally expecting to spend 2-3 years at Trolltech and then at some point move back to Germany. As you all can see, that’s not how it went though. I ended up staying in Norway and have been working with and for Qt ever since. Starting with Qt 1.0, Trolltech released the source code to Qt (at that time only for Linux/Unix), and the Open Source nature of Qt played a big part in its success. I’m very happy that we could continue on that path, by over time making all platforms Qt supports available as Open Source as well as moving over to more standard and freer licensing (first GPL, later LGPL). At the end of the Trolltech years, we started looking into how to make it easier for the community to contribute to Qt, and first had a model where our users could submit patches to us. That never really worked very well, and I’m really happy that we moved over to our current governance model in 2011. Since then Qt has truly been an Open Source project. When Qt got sold by Nokia in 2012, many people considered it a dead technology. But I and many of you believed in the technology, and together we’ve managed to turn this into a great success. As you all know, Qt is a dual licensed technology. That Qt has the backing of a commercial business behind it, is what made the required investments possible to keep the technology competitive. I’m extremely proud of what we achieved with Qt over the last 10 years. It happened because everybody on this list put in a lot of work into making Qt one of the best development frameworks on this planet. Qt is something that I care deeply about. I’ve been with it all the way and through all the ups and downs from when Trolltech got its first larger investment to now. But seeing what you all are doing, I know it’s in very good hands moving forward. Leaving The Qt Company and in the future spending most of my time outside the Qt ecosystem has been a difficult decision. But in the end, after those 25 years, it does feel very much like the right decision for me. I want to try out something else. So I will be joining a small Norwegian startup with one of the founders of Trolltech. While still in Software, it’ll be something rather different, not related to C++ or developer tools. So how do things continue from here? First of all, I’ll still be working for Qt until my summer vacations at the end of June. After that, I will have significantly less time for Qt, but I certainly won’t be completely gone. I will continue to read the Qt project mailing lists and maybe come by for events such as the Contributor or World Summit. Also, feel free to send me a mail at any time, I’ll try to help where I can. I will also keep my position as a maintainer for Qt Multimedia. I believe the module is now in a decent shape, and I should be able to spend some hours per week on it. But a few hours per week will certainly not be enough to fill the work I’m currently doing for Qt. So, I have decided to resign from my position as the Chief Maintainer of the Qt project. I’ll send more details around this in a separate mail. I’d like to thank everybody whom I’ve worked with over the years. I’ve made many friends in Qt and through Qt. It’s been a fantastic ride and will always be grateful for the time I could spend on the technology and with the people developing it. Cheers, Lars ___ Development mailing list
