Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Laszlo Papp lp...@kde.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: Hi, just speaking by myself since at least I have got a N950 in my hands running Qt 5... It would be an invaluable contribution to ship a snapshot debian package into the community repository. It would probably make qt5 even more popular on Harmattan. :) There's a repository with Qt5 packages based on the weekly snapshot used by QtWebKit. Currently only the WebKit dependencies are packaged. More information: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/BuildingQt5OnHarmattan#Qt5packagesforHarmattan https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-qt/2012-February/002402.html -- Lauro Moura INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
On 02/02/2012 06:48 AM, ext Lauro Moura wrote: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/BuildingQt5OnHarmattan#Qt5packagesforHarmattan https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-qt/2012-February/002402.html This is great! I understand why that wiki page is at *.webkit.org but since this is about running Qt 5 in Harmattan, wouldn't it be more useful to maintain it at http://wiki.qt-project.org ? It will be easier to get there the contributions from non-WebKit devs installing and running Qt 5 in their devices. The idea came when I was about to Tweet and G+ that URl and then I thought that I could get questions and confusion from the crowd following Qt 5 news with a N9 / N950 in their pockets. -- Quim ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: On 02/02/2012 06:48 AM, ext Lauro Moura wrote: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/BuildingQt5OnHarmattan#Qt5packagesforHarmattan https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-qt/2012-February/002402.html This is great! I understand why that wiki page is at *.webkit.org but since this is about running Qt 5 in Harmattan, wouldn't it be more useful to maintain it at http://wiki.qt-project.org ? It will be easier to get there the contributions from non-WebKit devs installing and running Qt 5 in their devices. The idea came when I was about to Tweet and G+ that URl and then I thought that I could get questions and confusion from the crowd following Qt 5 news with a N9 / N950 in their pockets. Sure. Just added it: http://wiki.qt-project.org/Qt_5_on_Nokia_N9 -- Lauro Moura INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: Hi, just speaking by myself since at least I have got a N950 in my hands running Qt 5... It would be an invaluable contribution to ship a snapshot debian package into the community repository. It would probably make qt5 even more popular on Harmattan. :) Best Regards, Laszlo Papp ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 01:41:57 PM ext alex.blas...@nokia.com wrote: -Original Message- From: development-bounces+alex.blasche=nokia@qt-project.org On Thursday, January 12, 2012 06:50:58 AM ext xizhi@nokia.com wrote: Hi, Practically, since Qt Project has no plan to support Qt5 in Harmattan, I believe the Harmattan-specific code sits in its own clone repository (same as for QtonPi [1] and ), right? [1] https://qt.gitorious.org/qtonpi This is not correct I believe. We are doing changes in qtbase, etc. for improved support of Qt 5 on Harmattan. I don't think it will make it to tier1 with just our effort, but we have a continued interest in running qtbase/qtdeclarative on Harmattan and it would be nice to keep things working as long as the maintenance required to do that is as low as it currently seems. I believe this is a view colored by qtbase/qtdeclarative/webkit only. The picture is very different for networking, systeminfo, PS or location, The backends are very large and complex and hardly (if at all) used by any other Linux derivate. Maintaining them is not a Sunday evening job. Unless somebody actually steps up and actively maintains them I believe the code will simply become unusable. Right, if the maintainers of that code feel it's more of a burden, then it's definitely a good idea to remove the code. But in cases where that isn't the case it would be nice (nice, that's all) to keep it around for those who care about Qt5 on Harmattan. Simon ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
On Wednesday, 18 de January de 2012 14.52.40, Simon Hausmann wrote: I believe this is a view colored by qtbase/qtdeclarative/webkit only. The picture is very different for networking, systeminfo, PS or location, The backends are very large and complex and hardly (if at all) used by any other Linux derivate. Maintaining them is not a Sunday evening job. Unless somebody actually steps up and actively maintains them I believe the code will simply become unusable. Right, if the maintainers of that code feel it's more of a burden, then it's definitely a good idea to remove the code. But in cases where that isn't the case it would be nice (nice, that's all) to keep it around for those who care about Qt5 on Harmattan. I'd recommend as a compromise that we simply leave them there for the time being. Since the Harmattan API itself isn't getting updated, the code that interfaces with that API should be reasonably stable. The team that wants to maintain the Harmattan port can adapt to changes in the plugin API facing Qt if necessary. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center Intel Sweden AB - Registration Number: 556189-6027 Knarrarnäsgatan 15, 164 40 Kista, Stockholm, Sweden signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
On Tuesday, 17 de January de 2012 08.58.59, Simon Hausmann wrote: We are doing changes in qtbase, etc. for improved support of Qt 5 on Harmattan. I don't think it will make it to tier1 with just our effort, but we have a continued interest in running qtbase/qtdeclarative on Harmattan and it would be nice to keep things working as long as the maintenance required to do that is as low as it currently seems. It is still the best ARM device to play with, so I'm sure there will be people interested in running their code there to ensure it works and has decent performance. Until a new device comes out. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center Intel Sweden AB - Registration Number: 556189-6027 Knarrarnäsgatan 15, 164 40 Kista, Stockholm, Sweden signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 06:50:58 AM ext xizhi@nokia.com wrote: Hi, Practically, since Qt Project has no plan to support Qt5 in Harmattan, I believe the Harmattan-specific code sits in its own clone repository (same as for QtonPi [1] and ), right? [1] https://qt.gitorious.org/qtonpi This is not correct I believe. We are doing changes in qtbase, etc. for improved support of Qt 5 on Harmattan. I don't think it will make it to tier1 with just our effort, but we have a continued interest in running qtbase/qtdeclarative on Harmattan and it would be nice to keep things working as long as the maintenance required to do that is as low as it currently seems. Simon ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
Hi, Practically, since Qt Project has no plan to support Qt5 in Harmattan, I believe the Harmattan-specific code sits in its own clone repository (same as for QtonPi [1] and ), right? [1] https://qt.gitorious.org/qtonpi Xizhi Zhu (Steven) Software Engineer @ Qt Development Frameworks Nokia Mobile: +358 (0)50 480 1247 From: development-bounces+xizhi.zhu=nokia@qt-project.org [development-bounces+xizhi.zhu=nokia@qt-project.org] on behalf of Gil Quim (Nokia-DXM/SiliconValley) Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:51 PM To: development@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan? Hi, just speaking by myself since at least I have got a N950 in my hands running Qt 5... On 01/10/2012 06:16 AM, ext xizhi@nokia.com wrote: Hi, I would like to get some clarity regarding Qt5 on Harmattan... Based on the Wiki page here (http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_5.0), Harmattan is not a Tier 1 platform. I also didn't find any Wiki page saying anything regarding Tier 2 and Tier 3 platforms. The only information I can find is from the Qt5-feedback mailing list [1], but I don't know any further plans / actions, except Oswald and Thiago pointed out Qt5 on Harmattan is still relevant [2]. Qt 5 in Harmattan is relevant to the Qt Project because Qt is deeply integrated and the Nokia N9 is publicly available. Needless to say, having platforms to develop and test Qt 5 is very important and Harmattan offers an open platform for handset form factor. Then could someone give some clarity to what scope Qt5 is supposed to be supported for Harmattan? The Qt Project as such has no plans of *supporting* Qt 5 in Harmattan, as the URL above explains. Note that there're certain essential (sub-)modules requiring Harmattan-specific back-end, e.g. bearer, PS, system info. Also, many add-on modules from ex-mobility also require Harmattan-specific back-end. Any one currently maintaining the code for Harmattan? Or at least any volunteers? Any CI support under plan? If there's nobody doing this, and no plan available, how can we keep Qt5 working on Harmattan? There are some initiatives going on and it would be great if a decent adaptation could come out of that. Some links: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/BuildingQt5OnHarmattan http://qt.gitorious.org/~jturcotte/qt/qt5-harmattan http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/11/21/testing-qtquick-2-on-your-n9n950/ Qt 5 running in the Nokia N950 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARpK4V3Jr40 -- Quim ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
[Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
Hi, I would like to get some clarity regarding Qt5 on Harmattan... Based on the Wiki page here (http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_5.0), Harmattan is not a Tier 1 platform. I also didn't find any Wiki page saying anything regarding Tier 2 and Tier 3 platforms. The only information I can find is from the Qt5-feedback mailing list [1], but I don't know any further plans / actions, except Oswald and Thiago pointed out Qt5 on Harmattan is still relevant [2]. Then could someone give some clarity to what scope Qt5 is supposed to be supported for Harmattan? Note that there're certain essential (sub-)modules requiring Harmattan-specific back-end, e.g. bearer, PS, system info. Also, many add-on modules from ex-mobility also require Harmattan-specific back-end. Any one currently maintaining the code for Harmattan? Or at least any volunteers? Any CI support under plan? If there's nobody doing this, and no plan available, how can we keep Qt5 working on Harmattan? [1] http://lists.qt.nokia.com/pipermail/qt5-feedback/2011-September/001459.html [2] http://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,12610 Xizhi Zhu (Steven) Software Engineer @ Qt Development Frameworks Nokia Mobile: +358 (0)50 480 1247 ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan?
Hi, We (QtWebKit team) intent on testing and making sure that WebKit works reasonable on the N9, but it is not a hard target for the release. Instead what we are focusing on it providing a better QML view which comes with most of the N9 browser features out of the box. Kenneth From: development-bounces+kenneth.r.christiansen=nokia@qt-project.org [development-bounces+kenneth.r.christiansen=nokia@qt-project.org] on behalf of Zhu Xizhi (Nokia-MP/Tampere) Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:16 PM To: development@qt-project.org Subject: [Development] What's the story for Qt5 on Harmattan? Hi, I would like to get some clarity regarding Qt5 on Harmattan... Based on the Wiki page here (http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/Qt_5.0), Harmattan is not a Tier 1 platform. I also didn't find any Wiki page saying anything regarding Tier 2 and Tier 3 platforms. The only information I can find is from the Qt5-feedback mailing list [1], but I don't know any further plans / actions, except Oswald and Thiago pointed out Qt5 on Harmattan is still relevant [2]. Then could someone give some clarity to what scope Qt5 is supposed to be supported for Harmattan? Note that there're certain essential (sub-)modules requiring Harmattan-specific back-end, e.g. bearer, PS, system info. Also, many add-on modules from ex-mobility also require Harmattan-specific back-end. Any one currently maintaining the code for Harmattan? Or at least any volunteers? Any CI support under plan? If there's nobody doing this, and no plan available, how can we keep Qt5 working on Harmattan? [1] http://lists.qt.nokia.com/pipermail/qt5-feedback/2011-September/001459.html [2] http://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,12610 Xizhi Zhu (Steven) Software Engineer @ Qt Development Frameworks Nokia Mobile: +358 (0)50 480 1247 ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
