Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Bug in iso comp file? [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] man pages gone under SME 5.0]

2001-09-23 Thread Gordon Rowell

On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 04:18:54AM -, Darrell May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]
 In fact on my fresh install I do not have any packages from the 
 ExtrasForDevel group.  So how did you get man installed?  Do you have the 
 others installed as well?  Are you using the public .iso or do you have a 
 different copy?

The manpages were intentionally not installed, as with all of the 
ExtrasForDevel group. They are on the CD if developers want to install 
them manually.

The entries in this group are useful for developers, but not for the
average deployed system. There are a few reasons:

- We don't expect people to log into deployed systems (man, slocate)
- slocate generates a lot of daily disk activity
- man/tmpwatch have gone through various stages of brokenness, 
generating cron errors

 I think Mitel has an error in the /e-smith/base/comp file which should 
 read:
 [...]

No, it was intentional.

Thanks,

Gordon
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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] man pages gone under SME 5.0

2001-09-23 Thread Gordon Rowell

On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 02:36:25PM -0700, Greg Zartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It appears that Mitel has removed the man pages from SME5.0.  Is anyone else
 finding this to be true?

Yes. They are on the CD if you want to install them manually. See my response
to Darrell for why we removed them.

 If so, I'd say that creating a RPM or Blade upgrade to replace them would be
 a worth while effort.

We think a developers blade is a great idea, and are looking for some
free tuits. Hopefully we'll have some more now that SME Server V5 is out.

Thanks,

Gordon
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[e-smith-devinfo] Andrew Tridgell on oplocks (was Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Samba and opportunistic file locking?)

2001-09-23 Thread Gordon Rowell

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From: Andrew Tridgell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Samba and opportunistic file locking?
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
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Gordon,

It's a bit hard to follow all the quoting in this email, so maybe I
should just restate a few facts.

1) turning oplocks off in Samba will NOT cause file corruption. With
   oplocks off the clients will use synchronous IO operations.

2) oplocks have nothing to do with share modes (aka deny modes) or
   byte range locking. The primary mechanism in Windows for preventing
   corruption on simulantaneous usage is share modes. The secondary
   mechanism is byte range locks. 

3) enabling oplocks does not play a role in preventing corruption, but
   if you enable them and you have simultaneous access to files by
   oplock aware apps and non-oplock aware apps then you can get
   corruption because the non-oplock aware apps won't see the cached
   data. That is why I recommended disabling oplocks in your config -
   I believe you were experiencing file corruption on a 2.2 kernel
   with Samba when files were being shared between windows clients and
   non-windows apps.

4) With the 2.4 kernel Samba is told by the kernel when a non-oplock
   aware app tries to access the file. The access is blocked until
   Samba is able to dispense with the oplock.

In summary it is always safe to disable oplocks, but there is a
performance hit that is sometimes quite large. With the 2.4 kernel you
can safely enable oplocks which gains you performance without any
risk.

Cheers, Tridge


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[e-smith-devinfo] Re: Bug in iso comp file? [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] man pages gone under SME 5.0]

2001-09-23 Thread Dan Brown

Darrell May wrote:

 Dan that is curious.  If you look closer you will see on the CD in
 /e-smith/base/comp that man only gets installed under this category:
 
 1 ExtrasForDevel {
   man
   rcs
   slocate
   strace
 }

Well, slocate is installed, but rcs and strace aren't.  I'm using the
public .iso, and I upgraded a 4.1.2 installation.  Don't know what's
going on, really, but there it is.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: Bug in iso comp file? [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] man pages gone under SME 5.0]

2001-09-23 Thread Craig Foster

slocate isn't installed on a clean SME 5.00
and neither is man, strace, rcs for that matter.

Regards,

Craig Foster

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Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Re: Bug in iso comp file? [was Re:
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Darrell May wrote:

 Dan that is curious.  If you look closer you will see on the CD in
 /e-smith/base/comp that man only gets installed under this category:

 1 ExtrasForDevel {
   man
   rcs
   slocate
   strace
 }

Well, slocate is installed, but rcs and strace aren't.  I'm using the
public .iso, and I upgraded a 4.1.2 installation.  Don't know what's
going on, really, but there it is.

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[e-smith-devinfo] Virus in RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ????????????????????3????

2001-09-23 Thread Craig Foster

For those without virus scanners, that was the HappyTime Virus.

Regards,

Craig Foster
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[e-smith-devinfo] My Samba howtos

2001-09-23 Thread Dan Brown

As you know, I have two versions of my Samba upgrade howto online.  There are 
two primary differences between them.  First, one uses the RPM from samba.org 
while the other uses RPMs from RedHat rawhide.  Second, the add user script on 
the first completely bypasses the normal e-smith mechanisms and works for some 
users, while the add user script from the second one tries to use the e-smith 
way and doesn't seem to work for anybody.

The first add user script is:

add user script = /usr/sbin/useradd -d /dev/null -g 100 -s /bin/false -M %u 

The second is:

add user script = /etc/e-smith/events/actions/machine-account-create  create-
machine-account %u 

(all on one line).  Well, the second one gives problems.  If you run it from 
the command prompt, you get

Use of uninitialized value in string eq at ./machine-account-create line 47. 
Account [whatever] is not a machine account; create account failed. 

...which sounds like you need to run /sbin/e-smith/db accounts set [whatever] 
machine first.  Unfortunately, I can't feed samba both commands at once.  Do I 
just need to write a custom script that calls both of these, or is there some 
other way around this?

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[e-smith-devinfo] !Virus Alert! [was [e-smith-devinfo]????????????????????3????)]

2001-09-23 Thread Darrell May


It appears that the devinfo mailing list may have allowed an attachment, 
and one infected with a virus, to be forwarded to list members.  As this 
virus is potentially destructive, I suggest all devinfo members review 
the details below, scan their computers for viruses and take appropriate 
actions.

Regards

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RAV AntiVirus for Linux i686 (snapshot-20010621)
The file (SCRIPT1) attached to mail (with subject: [e-smith-devinfo]
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is infected with virus: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*.

VIRUS DESCRIPTION 
 
Virus name: VBS/Haptime.A@mm 
Virus type: I_Worm 
Aliases: VBS/Happytime 
Infected objects: SYSTEM  
Like Hood: Common 
Detection added: 2001-05-29 
Disinfection added: 2001-05-29 
Description: 
This is internet worm that uses the same Outlook Express vulnerability 
that is used by the well-known JS/Kak worm. On unpatched versions on 
Outlook Express, the worm is able to replicate itself without opening 
infected messages. 

It comes into a system as an e-mail attachment called untitled.htm. The 
message subject is Help and the message body is empty. 

When an infected message is previewed or opened, it will drop a copy of 
itself with one of the following names: Help.htm, Help.vbs 
or Help.hta. 

Next, it looks for html, vbs, htm and asp files. When such files 
are found, the worm will attempt to find e-mail addresses embedded in 
these files. If it finds a valid e-mail address, it will mail itself to 
that address and infect the found files. On the 366-th infected file, 
Haptime will either send itself as e-mails to all the senders of the 
messages stored in Inbox, with the subject `Fw:  old_message_subject`, 
and empty message body and the attachment untitled.htm or it will mass-
mail itself to all addresses found in the Contacts folder. 

If the current day is 13, it will also try do delete .exe and .dll 
files. 

The wallpaper is also set to the dropped html files, so the worm code is 
executed when the system boots. Also, .htt files are infected - so 
opening folders like webpages will also result in worm's execution. 

Using Outlook Express Stationery feature, Haptime sets the default 
message format to the untitled.htm file that it drops. This way, each 
new mail that will be sent by the infected computer will also carry the 
worm code. 
 
Evilness: Potentially destructive (corrupts data while replicating) 
Analyst: Adrian Marinescu 
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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Bug in iso comp file? [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] man pages gone under SME 5.0]

2001-09-23 Thread Darrell May


Gordon Rowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 No, it was intentional.

Thanks for confirming Gordon.

IMHO I do not think this was a good choice.  I feel man and slocate are 
valuable tools every admin should have at their disposal.

I guess if they became a developer blade for easy install that will 
suffice.  In addition a documented note simply saying 'these are on the 
CD but not installed by default' might be an idea for the FAQ.

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Bug in iso comp file? [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] man pages gone under SME 5.0]

2001-09-23 Thread John Powell

I 100% agree with Darrell's points on this!  Those are 2 critical components
to have handy, perhaps the 2 things I use the most at the shell level.  Are
there other shell type tools/apps that got dropped (Pine/Pico, vi, etc.).  I
have not loaded up SME5 yet (I am on the road), wondering what other
surprises are there.

I guess this is probably a stupid question, but are the man pages themselves
not installed, or is it just the man app?

On a sematics point, the blade should probably be called the Sysadmin
Blade or Shell Tools Blade, as Developer Blade seems to suggest things
like compilers, make, etc. (which would be another fine blade to have handy,
though I thoroughly agree that these should not installed by default).

I know this is not a democracy, but my vote would say leave those in there
by default.  Still love the product, just registering an opinion.

Regards,

JP

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Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Bug in iso comp file? [was Re:
[e-smith-devinfo] man pages gone under SME 5.0]



 Gordon Rowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  No, it was intentional.

 Thanks for confirming Gordon.

 IMHO I do not think this was a good choice.  I feel man and slocate are
 valuable tools every admin should have at their disposal.

 I guess if they became a developer blade for easy install that will
 suffice.  In addition a documented note simply saying 'these are on the
 CD but not installed by default' might be an idea for the FAQ.



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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Samba issues on e-smith

2001-09-23 Thread stephan

Citing Michael Doerner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The remaining problems are the user profiles for Win9x machines which will
 reside in the user's home directory with the above settings. I can't get
 them onto the 'profiles' share.

From what I read in the Samba documentation, it is not possible to store the
user profiles for Win9x machines outside the user's home directory.

See http://samba.org/samba/docs/Samba-HOWTO-Collection.html#AEN1512

Regards

Stephan Burmeister

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] AntiNimda contrib RPMS.

2001-09-23 Thread Adrian Chung

On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 12:12:06AM +0200, Yann wrote:
  This also blocks outbound proxy traffic. :)
 
 And what about inbound http traffic ?
 
 {
 $OUT .= 'HERE';
 # Deny any requests for web traffic
 /sbin/ipchains --append input -p tcp -d 0/0 80 -j REJECT
 HERE
 }

There are two new versions that should appear on ftp.e-smith.com within
an hour, that address the above problem.

They do so by binding the above rule to the internal interface only, (so
that inbound web traffic is not affected from the outside world), and
also ACCEPT'ing any TCP port 80 traffic for the server's Local IP via
the internal interface as well.

The new versions are:

e-smith-proxy-4.2.0-09antinimda.noarch.rpm

Mitel-ProxyDenyReadmeEML-1.1.0-07.noarch.rpm

Downloads available from:

ftp://ftp.e-smith.com/pub/e-smith/contrib/AdrianChung/RPMS/noarch/

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Bug in iso comp file? [was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] man pages gone under SME 5.0]

2001-09-23 Thread Gordon Rowell

On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 11:22:58AM -0500, John Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I 100% agree with Darrell's points on this!  Those are 2 critical components
 to have handy, perhaps the 2 things I use the most at the shell level.  

With my developer hat on, I agree.

With my deployment hat on, I disagree. slocate, in particular, causes
(seemingly) random major disk activitity, which concerns customers (a lot).

I believe we took the correct approach - don't install them by default, 
but place then on the CD for you to install if you wish, and make a Blade
out of them as soon as possible.

 Are there other shell type tools/apps that got dropped (Pine/Pico, vi, etc.).  
No.

 I have not loaded up SME5 yet (I am on the road), wondering what other
 surprises are there.

There should be none. The only tools not installed by default are in
this group:

1 ExtrasForDevel {
  man
  rcs
  slocate
  strace
}

 I guess this is probably a stupid question, but are the man pages themselves
 not installed, or is it just the man app?

Neither are installed by default. The installer will upgrade existing
versions.

 On a sematics point, the blade should probably be called the Sysadmin
 Blade or Shell Tools Blade, as Developer Blade seems to suggest things
 like compilers, make, etc. (which would be another fine blade to have handy,
 though I thoroughly agree that these should not installed by default).

Yep. I'd prefer to see small blades - Manual pages (which would include
man and manpages), Sysadmin (which would include slocate, ...), etc.

 I know this is not a democracy, but my vote would say leave those in there
 by default.  Still love the product, just registering an opinion.

Which we value, but we all need to remember the focus on this list is
development. Developers want/need manpages, slocate, etc.

Thanks,

Gordon
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[e-smith-devinfo] Devinfo posts now subscribers only (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] !Virus Alert! [was [e-smith-devinfo]????????????????????3????)])

2001-09-23 Thread Gordon Rowell

On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 02:01:14PM -, Darrell May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 It appears that the devinfo mailing list may have allowed an attachment, 
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Thanks Darrell. 

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