[e-smith-devinfo] new developer, advice on sandbox...

2002-01-25 Thread Steven Lewis

Hello all,

I am new to development of SME, however the evolution of my skills compels 
me to begin. I would like to set up a test SME with a client or two on my 
home LAN. What advice can be given for this test setup to best represent a 
'real world' scenario. I will start using the FreeSwan vpn contrib and 
experimenting with TridiaVNC remote control software tunneling via SSH.

All this is for my curiosity and to test items before I depoy them in the 
field.

Any help, pointers will be appreciated.

Steve Lewis


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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Problem: Macs file sharing web folders

2002-01-25 Thread Rich Lafferty

On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 12:09:16AM -0500, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Netatalk expert advise appreciated.
> 
> Is there a way to disable the creation of ".AppleDouble" files? If
> this could be limited to the html/ folders it would ideal. Turning
> off write permissions is not an option.

There is; I can't recall what it is offhand, and I'm not handy to a
netatalk tree to find out, but if at the end of this you still need
it, I'll look it up.

I'm really not sure to what end you want to do that, though.
 
> I noticed this was a problem while running phprojekt. I asked a mac
> user if he could pretty up the pages for our use. Later while adding
> info into phprojekt I noticed an additional tab folder tilted
> ".AppleDouble" a quick rm -Rf .AppleDouble in the addons folder
> solved the problem for now.

What *is* the problem?

> ".AppleDouble" files are created by netatalk to store the metadata
> that macs use to store the icon and file association information. I
> do not believe this info is critical for the web shared files in the
> html folders.

It's not critical from the perspective of the web server or browser,
but it's certainly a time-saver for Macintosh users, who otherwise
would have to reset file types or drag files onto applications instead
of just double-clicking to open the files. It'd also mean throwing
away "Get Info" data, labels, and previews.

For non-Web files -- Word, Excel, and so on -- there may be even more
stored in the resource fork.

On HFS and HFS+, the Macintosh file systems, there's no concept of
"this is the file, and this is the data about the file" -- a file is
*comprised* of a resource and data fork, and neither part has
secondary status. It's not necessarily metadata -- a resource might be
a string, or a sound, or a picture, or a dialog box. Granted, for
things served over the Web, resources won't be that important -- but
that relies on Macintosh users never storing anything else on the
server that requires a resource.

> Data usually is safe without the metadata but mac applications
> stored on an e-smith with ".AppleDouble" turned off would run
> without some "repair" work.

Well, data's only safe if you're using a flat file format (eg. text,
HTML, JPG) in the first place.

I trust you mean "would not run". It would take significantly more
than repair work, too -- you've thrown away pretty much every element
of the program the user sees and hears when you've thrown away the
resource fork, and the only way you'll retrieve it is restoring from a
backup or reinstalling.
 
> So I will end with a warning. Macs viewing shared folders can add invisible 
> files to the folder if the user has write permission.

You've got me puzzled -- what is there to warn about? Those invisible
directories (containing visible files!) are a feature, and are there
by design.

  -Rich

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[e-smith-devinfo] Problem: Macs file sharing web folders

2002-01-25 Thread Brian

Netatalk expert advise appreciated.

Is there a way to disable the creation of ".AppleDouble" files? If this could 
be limited to the html/ folders it would ideal. Turning off write permissions 
is not an option.

I noticed this was a problem while running phprojekt. I asked a mac user if 
he could pretty up the pages for our use. Later while adding info into 
phprojekt I noticed an additional tab folder tilted ".AppleDouble" a quick rm 
-Rf .AppleDouble in the addons folder solved the problem for now.

".AppleDouble" files are created by netatalk to store the metadata that macs 
use to store the icon and file association information. I do not believe this 
info is critical for the web shared files in the html folders. Data usually 
is safe without the metadata but mac applications stored on an e-smith with 
".AppleDouble" turned off would run without some "repair" work.

So I will end with a warning. Macs viewing shared folders can add invisible 
files to the folder if the user has write permission.

Thanks
Brian
Daybreak Information Systems

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[e-smith-devinfo] 3rd External IP development

2002-01-25 Thread Trevor Ouellette

I've made headway with the External Aliased IP RPM that I'm developing but
now I'm testing it for compatibility with a "real" third ethernet (or
wireless) connection.

Anybody running three interfaces (Ethernet) at the moment?  I would prefer
if you had one local area network connection and two external connections.

I'm having a heck of a time getting the 3rd interface visable to the outside
world (I'm pretty sure its my routes).

The Ethernet is visable, loads properly, can be pinged from the inside
network, but from the outside, it can't be located.


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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] New HOWTOs up online, including Eric Womack's YAPPA HOWTO

2002-01-25 Thread Shad L. Lords

This may not be the place, but is there any way to have a date associated
with the list of contributed modules.  Some times it would be nice to see
what stuff is new on the list and if I knew the date a contrib was posted or
updated then I could go and take a look.  The way it is now you have to
check everyone that you are interested for changes.

-Shad

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Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] New HOWTOs up online, including Eric Womack's
YAPPA HOWTO


> FYI, if you haven't looked at the list of contributed HOWTOs lately,
> it keeps on growing and growing!  You can see it at:
>
>   http://www.e-smith.org/cgi-bin/contrib.cgi
>
> Today I just added Eric Womack's HOWTO on installing the YAPPA
> photo gallery that he sent in yesterday (thanks, Eric!).  It is at:
>
>   http://www.e-smith.org/docs/howto/contrib/SME-YAPPA-HOWTO.html
>
> Enjoy,
> Dan
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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] FYI - 5.1 release timetable...

2002-01-25 Thread Darrell May


Dan, I guess you changed your mind and feel devinfo should not see the
release prior to going public.  I do hope this change of plan works well for
all concerned.

Regards,

Darrell

Dan York <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Folks,
> Our current timetable for public release is to make the
> images available sometime on Tuesday, January 29th.


> This may be in the plans already... however may I suggest you issue a
> 5.1rc1.iso to devinfo for a final round of testing _before_ releasing
> 5.1 public.
>
> Again, this is just a suggestion.  You've probably got this planned
> and on the way already.

Yes, it has always been planned and will happen soon.  Stay tuned.

Regards,
Dan



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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Running a process as user other than root

2002-01-25 Thread Gordon Rowell

On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 09:42:56AM -0500, John Cusick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> I figured that I should be able to do a simple su jabber -c "the command"
> but no dice. I  get the standard message that a console is not available
> for the user. That's not a problem as I don't want user consoles available,
> but shouldn't root have the right to do a runas type command?
> [...]

su means "become this user", so if this user doesn't have a valid shell,
it should fail, even when root tries to do it.

su jabber -s /bin/bash -c "the command" 

should do the trick, though be careful about shell escapes from 
"the command".

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Token Ring and SME 5.1

2002-01-25 Thread Dan York

Robert,

In an EXTREMELY bizarre bit of synchronicity, Zac Sprackett, our sales
engineer, happened to find himself in the credit union of the Ottawa
police department last night at 10pm **adding Token Ring support** to
their SME Server.  I cannot even begin to estimate the probability of these
two things happening at the same time...  just too bizarre...

In any event, he has already done the work and said to me that he would
send out to this list some notes and/or write up a HOWTO that would
describe the process.

Having said that... flipping to my product management hat, I cannot
say now if Token Ring support is something we will directly add into
the product anytime soon... even though Zac did it, his solution *would*
require some engineering/testing time and has to be juggled with all
the other priorities and feature requests... but at least thanks to 
Zac we can give those folks who want to use TR some guidance.

Stay tuned...
Dan

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> Gordon,
> 
> Since I know you have an extreme lack of circular tuits, and I have never tried 
> to make modifications to the templates or the system in general, can you just 
> point me in the right direction to start? I assume the "network" service I see 
> during startup simply calls a script based on the parameters entered during 
> server setup (versus a standard Redhat which normally looks like Bringing up 
> eth0 or some such), with the only "hard-coded" portion being the "eth0". My 
> (very uneducated)guess is I just have to modify the template and/or script to 
> start tr0 instead of eth0. Am I on the right track? I promise if I figure it 
> out, I will write a HOWTO :)
> 
> Robert Boerner
> Toyota Motor Sales USA
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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] e-smith-devinfo

2002-01-25 Thread Dan Brown

Quoting Zeljko Dolinac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Warning: no SO_TIMESTAMP support, falling back to SIOCGSTAMP?

First, this really isn't a development issue.  Second, it's a known 
issue:

http://www.e-smith.org/bugs/index.php3?op=showBug&bugID=19

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[e-smith-devinfo] FYI - 5.1 release timetable...

2002-01-25 Thread Dan York

Folks,

FYI, we released the 5.1 images for download to our partners this
morning.  Our current timetable for public release is to make the
images available sometime on Tuesday, January 29th.  We need some
time to get our mirror sites in sync, etc.  As soon as we do, I'll
post a message here.

Thanks for all the help many of you gave in the beta testing process.
I think you'll find the result a great new product!

Regards,
Dan

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] [alpha] rpm manager

2002-01-25 Thread Darrell May


Rob Hillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Call me dumb, call me stupid, ...

How about call you correct :-)  They are online and available now.

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[e-smith-devinfo] e-smith-devinfo

2002-01-25 Thread Zeljko Dolinac

Hello all,
I tried to monitoring internet connection using ping command (SME 5),
but every time when I execute ping -c 10 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx I receive
message

Warning: no SO_TIMESTAMP support, falling back to SIOCGSTAMP?

Is it bug ?!?!?

Other scripts work fine.


Thanks 

Zeljko

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Token Ring and SME 5.1

2002-01-25 Thread boerner

Gordon,

Since I know you have an extreme lack of circular tuits, and I have never tried 
to make modifications to the templates or the system in general, can you just 
point me in the right direction to start? I assume the "network" service I see 
during startup simply calls a script based on the parameters entered during 
server setup (versus a standard Redhat which normally looks like Bringing up 
eth0 or some such), with the only "hard-coded" portion being the "eth0". My 
(very uneducated)guess is I just have to modify the template and/or script to 
start tr0 instead of eth0. Am I on the right track? I promise if I figure it 
out, I will write a HOWTO :)

Robert Boerner
Toyota Motor Sales USA
Quoting Gordon Rowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 03:54:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > [...]
> > I was wondering if this is a bug, or if this is "intended" behavior
> > as the manual clearly states that only ethernet adaptors are
> supported. 
> > Just curious. 
> > [...]
> 
> "Intended" - we have no support for Token Ring adaptors. There just
> isn't
> very much call for them these days (and lots of sites use TR/Ethernet
> bridges). We'd be happy to host a HOWTO if you get it working.
> 
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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Token Ring and SME 5.1

2002-01-25 Thread Gordon Rowell

On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 03:54:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [...]
> I was wondering if this is a bug, or if this is "intended" behavior
> as the manual clearly states that only ethernet adaptors are supported. 
> Just curious. 
> [...]

"Intended" - we have no support for Token Ring adaptors. There just isn't
very much call for them these days (and lots of sites use TR/Ethernet
bridges). We'd be happy to host a HOWTO if you get it working.

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[e-smith-devinfo] Token Ring and SME 5.1

2002-01-25 Thread boerner

Hello all,

I tried a simple experiment setting up SME 5.1beta with a retired desktop. 
However, in my office we have a Token Ring network. I had previously been 
testing with a private ethernet at my workstation. Anyway, SME 5.1beta found my 
IBM PCI Token Ring card fine, but does not initialize it upon reboot. Upon a 
cursory review of the logs, the network startup scripts are trying to bring up 
eth0 by default, not tr0. Running ifconfig manually works fine.

I was wondering if this is a bug, or if this is "intended" behavior as the 
manual clearly states that only ethernet adaptors are supported. Just curious. 
Thanks in advance.

Robert Boerner
Toyota Motor Sales USA

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] INN Howto

2002-01-25 Thread Dan York

Mathieu,

> a "beta" version of it at http://inn.miza.nu/Inn_Howto.htm.

Cool... added to the list of contributed HOWTO docs.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] New HOWTOs up online, including Eric Womack's YAPPA HOWTO

2002-01-25 Thread Dan York

Filippo,

> Greg Zartman HOWTO on Win2k (bottom of page) is missing the link.

Oops... operator error... I left out the version number field in 
my data file, so my python CGI script didn't have enough fields to
create the entry.

Fixed now.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] FYI - Mitel in Compaq's booth at LinuxWorld next week in NYC

2002-01-25 Thread Orville Carter

CooL!  Looking forward to meeting some of the team.

Orville Carter
NYC

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Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] FYI - Mitel in Compaq's booth at LinuxWorld next
week in NYC


> FYI, if any of you are going to be at the LinuxWorld Conference
> and Exposition next week (Jan 30 - Feb 1) in New York, we will have a
> "pod" inside of Compaq's booth where we will be demonstrating the SME
> Server and ServiceLink services running on Compaq hardware.  Please do
> stop by and say hello.  Steve Brand, Zac Sprackett and myself will be
> taking turns in the booth.
>
> Regards,
> Dan
>
> P.S. More info about the show can be found at
> http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/
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[e-smith-devinfo] FYI - Mitel in Compaq's booth at LinuxWorld next week in NYC

2002-01-25 Thread Dan York

FYI, if any of you are going to be at the LinuxWorld Conference
and Exposition next week (Jan 30 - Feb 1) in New York, we will have a 
"pod" inside of Compaq's booth where we will be demonstrating the SME
Server and ServiceLink services running on Compaq hardware.  Please do
stop by and say hello.  Steve Brand, Zac Sprackett and myself will be
taking turns in the booth.

Regards,
Dan

P.S. More info about the show can be found at
http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/

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[e-smith-devinfo] INN Howto

2002-01-25 Thread Mathieu Paonessa

Hi everybody,

Since the demand has been increasing on alt.e-smith.fr, I've decided to
release a howto for installing the INN 2.3 news server on SME. You can find
a "beta" version of it at http://inn.miza.nu/Inn_Howto.htm.
The authentification system has changed between version 2.2 and 2.3. It now
requires an external system able to understand "auth" procedures. Most of
the time, people use a RADIUS server to do so. Any help to setup such a
service on SME would be appreciated.
Fell free to give your feedback here or directly by email.

Mathieu Paonessa
;o)

PS: I've already sent this message 1 hour ago but it doesn't seem to apper
on the mailing list. Sorry if you receive it twice...


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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] New HOWTOs up online, including Eric Womack's YAPPA HOWTO

2002-01-25 Thread Filippo Carletti

Greg Zartman HOWTO on Win2k (bottom of page) is missing the link.

Ciao,
Filippo



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[e-smith-devinfo] New HOWTOs up online, including Eric Womack's YAPPA HOWTO

2002-01-25 Thread Dan York

FYI, if you haven't looked at the list of contributed HOWTOs lately,
it keeps on growing and growing!  You can see it at:

  http://www.e-smith.org/cgi-bin/contrib.cgi

Today I just added Eric Womack's HOWTO on installing the YAPPA
photo gallery that he sent in yesterday (thanks, Eric!).  It is at:

  http://www.e-smith.org/docs/howto/contrib/SME-YAPPA-HOWTO.html

Enjoy,
Dan

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[e-smith-devinfo] Running a process as user other than root

2002-01-25 Thread John Cusick

I am following up to Noah's Jabber Server HOWTO:

It runs like a top by the way, but how do I start a process such as this
as a user other than root? The user 'jabber' and group 'jabberserver'
are the owners of the directories,.

I figured that I should be able to do a simple su jabber -c "the command"
but no dice. I  get the standard message that a console is not available
for the user. That's not a problem as I don't want user consoles available,
but shouldn't root have the right to do a runas type command?

Unfortunately there is no parameter or configuration that I can find 
similar
to apache's run as parameterr in Jabber

Thanks for any help, and if this is not the place, I'm sure someone will
let me know  For what it's worth I already did a search on the 
experienced users
forum and couldn't find any relavant answers with a search.

Regards,
John C.



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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Photo Album - YAPPA

2002-01-25 Thread Walid Moghrabi

No please, it interrests me and even if it is easy, a clear HowTo is really
welcome ...

A+

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À : Development Info for E-smith (E-mail)
Objet : [e-smith-devinfo] Photo Album - YAPPA


I have successfully added the YAPPA photo album to both an e-smith 4.1.2 and
an SME 5.0 server.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/yappa/

It requires two RPM's (freetype and GD) a small edit to the config file and
it is ready to go.

Key features:

SIMPLE! - Need a new album?  Create the folder in the ibay and drop in your
pictures.  THAT'S IT!
Auto-Thumbnail (using GD)
Ability to add descriptions to albums and pictures with simple text files.

I am considering documenting this as a HOWTO, but the process is so easy I'm
not sure it's needed.



Eric Womack
Cirque du Soleil (US) Inc.
3300 Las Vegas Blvd., South
Las Vegas, NV 89109
Ph: 702.894.7790 Fx: 702.894.7789


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Re: [e-smith-devinfo] new smtpdcheckrules rpm available

2002-01-25 Thread Hugh Fox

Thanks Darrell

fixed in no time as usual.

Have a good weekend (ours is a long weekend - it is Australia's National Day
tomorrow)

Hugh
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From: "Darrell May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hugh Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "e-smith-devinfo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] new smtpdcheckrules rpm available


>
> Hugh Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Darrell,
> >
> > admin is not a listed "user" in your new smtpd_check_rules stuff. So no
> > mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is coming in. I did check that mail to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] _was_ coming to me by sending a message to that
> address,
> > but as SME mails messages withing the domain without going through
> > smptd_check_rules, the message did come through.
>
> Actually, internal _is_ permitted via an smptd_check_rule.  Otherwise it
> would be blocked as well :-)
>
> > It is only mail from outside the SME server that doesn't get through.
> Did
> > that paragraph make complete sense??
>
> That's because admin isn't a "user".  It is a "system" account.  Fixed in
> the release below:
>
> dmc-mitel-smtpdcheckrules-0.0.1-5.noarch.rpm
> dmc-mitel-smtpdcheckrules-0.0.1-5.src.rpm
>
> Available here:
>
> http://myEZserver.com/downloads/mitel
>
> Regards,
>
> --
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> http://netsourced.com
> http://myEZserver.com
>
>


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