[e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers
I'm using an old Mac as a print server to make an Apple LaserWriter available on my network, and this is visible to a PC running Windows 2000 but not to a Windows 98 system. In the case of the Win 2K machine I access the printer by creating an AppleTalk device port. Is there a way to do this for Windows 98 machines? Secondly, how do I create a print spool for this device under Netatalk running on my e-smith server? I assume I have to modify papd.conf but I'm not clear on the syntax. Also, do I have to install a PPD file and if so, where? I'm assuming I can't do all this somehow through the Printers dialog in the e-smith Administration web pages, because printers there have to be accessible through the Microsoft Windows Network. No? Regards to all, Mark Ottawa, Canada. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/2001 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers
I use Macs and Apple lasers. If you are lucky (you did not mention the printer model) on the back of the printer there is a LPT port, use this to connect to the e-smith. Create a new printer on the e-smith front end and you are done. Your networked Macs and PCs alike will be able to share this printer. Some Apple lasers had ethernet built in. you would need to give the printer a TCP/IP number in the range you are using. Brian Daybreak Info Systems Mark Farey wrote: > > I'm using an old Mac as a print server to make an Apple LaserWriter > available on my network, and this is visible to a PC running Windows 2000 > but not to a Windows 98 system. In the case of the Win 2K machine I access > the printer by creating an AppleTalk device port. Is there a way to do this > for Windows 98 machines? > > Secondly, how do I create a print spool for this device under Netatalk > running on my e-smith server? I assume I have to modify papd.conf but I'm > not clear on the syntax. Also, do I have to install a PPD file and if so, > where? > > I'm assuming I can't do all this somehow through the Printers dialog in the > e-smith Administration web pages, because printers there have to be > accessible through the Microsoft Windows Network. No? > > Regards to all, > Mark > Ottawa, Canada. > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/2001 > > -- > Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues > Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers
>-Original Message- >From: b [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:38 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: 'e-smith-devinfo' >Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers > > >I use Macs and Apple lasers. If you are lucky (you did not >mention the >printer model) on the back of the printer there is a LPT >port, use this >to connect to the e-smith. Create a new printer on the >e-smith front end >and you are done. Your networked Macs and PCs alike will be able to >share this printer. > >Some Apple lasers had ethernet built in. you would need to give the >printer a TCP/IP number in the range you are using. > >Brian >Daybreak Info Systems > It's a Personal LaserWriter 320 and, no, it doesn't have an LPT port (I wish!), just a serial AppleTalk port. I've installed AppleTalk Bridge (unsupported utility from Apple) and this seems to work fine - it appears on the Ethernet network and can be accessed by my Win 2K machine. The problem is how to access it from a Win 98 machine. Regards, Mark. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/2001 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers
simply share the printer you have on your Windows 2000 machine. You'll need to keep this machine on, but at least all users on the network will be able to see and print to the printer. Unfortuantly, Windows 98 (by default, there are 3rd party products available) doesn't have any services that allow you to view macintosh printers or file shares. James - Original Message - From: "Mark Farey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'e-smith-devinfo'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:46 AM Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers > > I'm using an old Mac as a print server to make an Apple LaserWriter > available on my network, and this is visible to a PC running Windows 2000 > but not to a Windows 98 system. In the case of the Win 2K machine I access > the printer by creating an AppleTalk device port. Is there a way to do this > for Windows 98 machines? > > Secondly, how do I create a print spool for this device under Netatalk > running on my e-smith server? I assume I have to modify papd.conf but I'm > not clear on the syntax. Also, do I have to install a PPD file and if so, > where? > > I'm assuming I can't do all this somehow through the Printers dialog in the > e-smith Administration web pages, because printers there have to be > accessible through the Microsoft Windows Network. No? > > Regards to all, > Mark > Ottawa, Canada. > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/2001 > > > -- > Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues > Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org > -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Mark Farey wrote: > Secondly, how do I create a print spool for this device under Netatalk > running on my e-smith server? I assume I have to modify papd.conf but I'm > not clear on the syntax. Also, do I have to install a PPD file and if so, > where? I can really only refer you to the netatalk documentation. > I'm assuming I can't do all this somehow through the Printers dialog in the > e-smith Administration web pages, because printers there have to be > accessible through the Microsoft Windows Network. No? No, not true. The printers that you configure via the e-smith server manager are available either via direct connection to a parallel port, or via ethernet using the lpd protocol. The printers because accessible using the Microsoft Windows Network only because the e-smith server exports them to that environment. Here is a short extract from the most recent netatalk documentation: DDP is in the kernel. "atalkd" implements RTMP, NBP, ZIP, and AEP. It is the AppleTalk equivalent of Unix "routed". There is also a client-stub library for NBP. ATP and ASP are implemented as libraries. "papd" allows Macs to spool to "lpd", and "pap" allows Unix machines to print to AppleTalk connected printers. "psf" is a PostScript printer filter for "lpd", designed to use "pap". "psorder" is a PostScript reverser, called by "psf" to reverse pages printed to face-up stacking printers. "afpd" provides Macs with an interface to the Unix file system. Refer to the appropriate man pages for operational information. This states that the "pap" program will allow the e-smith server to print to AppleTalk connected printers. "pap" stands for Printer Access Protocol, and you may be able to read more about it via "man pap". If you also look at "man psf", you might be able create a template fragment for /etc/printcap which will allow pap to be used to connect an e-smith base3d printer spool to be set up for the Mac connected printer, which is assumed to be a PostScript printer. If you happen to get this working, I would be very interested to hear the details. Regards Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers
Charlie, Many thanks for responding to this, particularly at midnight on a Friday evening! Don't you guys ever go home? :-) Anyway, I'm working on it as time permits (meaning not the last few days) and will report back on results if and when I get this working. Regards, Mark. >-Original Message- >From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:48 PM >To: Mark Farey >Cc: 'e-smith-devinfo' >Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers > > > >On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Mark Farey wrote: > >> Secondly, how do I create a print spool for this device >under Netatalk >> running on my e-smith server? I assume I have to modify >papd.conf but I'm >> not clear on the syntax. Also, do I have to install a >PPD file and if so, >> where? > >I can really only refer you to the netatalk documentation. > >> I'm assuming I can't do all this somehow through the >Printers dialog in the >> e-smith Administration web pages, because printers there >have to be >> accessible through the Microsoft Windows Network. No? > >No, not true. The printers that you configure via the >e-smith server >manager are available either via direct connection to a >parallel port, or >via ethernet using the lpd protocol. The printers because >accessible using >the Microsoft Windows Network only because the e-smith >server exports them >to that environment. > >Here is a short extract from the most recent netatalk >documentation: > > DDP is in the kernel. "atalkd" implements RTMP, NBP, >ZIP, and AEP. It > is the AppleTalk equivalent of Unix "routed". There is also a > client-stub library for NBP. ATP and ASP are implemented as > libraries. "papd" allows Macs to spool to "lpd", and >"pap" allows Unix > machines to print to AppleTalk connected printers. "psf" is a > PostScript printer filter for "lpd", designed to use >"pap". "psorder" > is a PostScript reverser, called by "psf" to reverse >pages printed to > face-up stacking printers. "afpd" provides Macs with an >interface to > the Unix file system. Refer to the appropriate man pages for > operational information. > >This states that the "pap" program will allow the e-smith >server to print >to AppleTalk connected printers. "pap" stands for Printer >Access Protocol, >and you may be able to read more about it via "man pap". >If you also look >at "man psf", you might be able create a template fragment for >/etc/printcap which will allow pap to be used to connect >an e-smith base3d >printer spool to be set up for the Mac connected printer, >which is assumed >to be a PostScript printer. > >If you happen to get this working, I would be very >interested to hear the >details. > >Regards > >Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Lead Product Developer >Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ >Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ >Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 > > > >-- >Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues >Support for registered customers and partners to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Archives by mail and >http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/2001 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.274 / Virus Database: 144 - Release Date: 8/23/2001 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Macintosh network printers
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Mark Farey wrote: > Many thanks for responding to this, particularly at midnight on a Friday > evening! Don't you guys ever go home? :-) Where do you think I posted the response (and this) from? > Anyway, I'm working on it as time permits (meaning not the last few days) > and will report back on results if and when I get this working. Thanks. Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lead Product Developer Network Server Solutions Grouphttp://www.e-smith.com/ Mitel Networks Corporationhttp://www.mitel.com/ Phone: +1 (613) 368 4376 or 564 8000 Fax: +1 (613) 564 7739 -- Please report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (only) to discuss security issues Support for registered customers and partners to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives by mail and http://www.mail-archive.com/devinfo%40lists.e-smith.org
