[freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 14:33 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:50:00 Evan Daniel wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Marco A. Calamari > wrote: > > Huh? So don't upgrade until the insert finishes, or use persistent > > inserts. The last one wasn't mandatory for a week, iirc. > > Agreed, that doesn't make any sense: As long as an insert is > persistent it should finish the insert even after a restart with a new > build. > > So please explain *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED*, instead of just vaguely > grumbling without giving us enough information to debug! Please do not become nervous and do not scream. I'm inserting a rather big site (over 2 parts) using jSite, with an effective bandwidth of 0.3 KB/sec (calculated by jSite. The site usually insert in 4-7 days. No bug at all, but if an update become mandatory in less days that the site inserts, the jSite insert obviously fail. I do not know how insert sites in other ways; persistent insert are only for files, isn't it? I'm not grumbling. Peace. Marco -- +--- http://www.winstonsmith.info ---+ | il Progetto Winston Smith: scolleghiamo il Grande Fratello | | the Winston Smith Project: unplug the Big Brother | | Marco A. Calamari marcoc at marcoc.it http://www.marcoc.it | | DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B | + PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 --+ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20100706/a021f7a3/attachment.pgp>
[freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Marco A. Calamari wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 14:33 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:50:00 Evan Daniel wrote: >> > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Marco A. Calamari >> wrote: > >> > Huh? ?So don't upgrade until the insert finishes, or use persistent >> > inserts. ?The last one wasn't mandatory for a week, iirc. >> >> Agreed, that doesn't make any sense: As long as an insert is >> persistent it should finish the insert even after a restart with a new >> build. >> >> So please explain *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED*, instead of just vaguely >> grumbling without giving us enough information to debug! > > Please do not become nervous and do not scream. > > I'm inserting a rather big site (over 2 parts) using > ?jSite, with an effective bandwidth of 0.3 KB/sec (calculated > ?by jSite. The site usually insert in 4-7 days. > No bug at all, but if an update become mandatory in less days > ?that the site inserts, the jSite insert obviously fail. > > I do not know how insert sites in other ways; persistent insert > ?are only for files, isn't it? > > I'm not grumbling. ?Peace. ? Marco Persistent inserts can be used for any kind of insert, including both sites and single files. I use persistent inserts via a small shell script and FCP to insert my network size stats site, for example. The inserting program just needs to set the appropriate options. In general if you're inserting a site that large, you should at least consider inserting the large files individually and then linking to them from the main site. I'm assuming this isn't all *new* data? If most of the insert remains unchanged, you could save yourself a lot of time this way. Anyway, support for persistent inserts in jSite would obviously be helpful here. Evan Daniel
Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Marco A. Calamari wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 14:33 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:50:00 Evan Daniel wrote: >> > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Marco A. Calamari >> wrote: > >> > Huh? So don't upgrade until the insert finishes, or use persistent >> > inserts. The last one wasn't mandatory for a week, iirc. >> >> Agreed, that doesn't make any sense: As long as an insert is >> persistent it should finish the insert even after a restart with a new >> build. >> >> So please explain *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED*, instead of just vaguely >> grumbling without giving us enough information to debug! > > Please do not become nervous and do not scream. > > I'm inserting a rather big site (over 2 parts) using > jSite, with an effective bandwidth of 0.3 KB/sec (calculated > by jSite. The site usually insert in 4-7 days. > No bug at all, but if an update become mandatory in less days > that the site inserts, the jSite insert obviously fail. > > I do not know how insert sites in other ways; persistent insert > are only for files, isn't it? They aren't, actually I use persistent inserts in FlogHelper and it works fine. Maybe you can try inserting your freesite using fproxy's interface instead ? > > I'm not grumbling. Peace. Marco > > -- > > +--- http://www.winstonsmith.info ---+ > | il Progetto Winston Smith: scolleghiamo il Grande Fratello | > | the Winston Smith Project: unplug the Big Brother | > | Marco A. Calamari mar...@marcoc.it http://www.marcoc.it | > | DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B | > + PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 --+ > > > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl@freenetproject.org > http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
[freenet-dev] USK bookmark updating is broken IMHO, anyone else observing the same?
On Sunday 04 July 2010 21:17:35 Marco A. Calamari wrote: > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 20:26 +0200, xor wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > toad did some major work on USK before 1255, maybe in 1254 or so, I > > cannot > > remember which one it was. > > > > I have the strong feeling that the current code does not cause > > "Bookmarked > > site updated" notifications for every update which happens to a > > Freesite > > - I have observed that my node missed to tell me about an update for > > at least > > 2 different Freesites, for example toad's flog. If I browse to the > > Freesites the > > node DOES seem to show me the latest edition - it just doesn't notify > > me about > > it (even after having browsed to the latest edition there is no > > update > > notification). > > > > Does anyone else have the same feeling? > > Positively yes. Did either of you have the same site bookmarked twice? I've just fixed a bug where only the first bookmark for a given site would be updated... -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20100706/7bb450f7/attachment.pgp>
[freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)
On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:50:00 Evan Daniel wrote: > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Marco A. Calamari wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 12:59 -0400, Evan Daniel wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marco A. Calamari > >> wrote: > >> > On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 16:30 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > >> >> Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 is now available, please upgrade. This > >> build > >> >> fixes various bugs, mostly introduced in 1255, including the > >> Internal > >> >> error on some persistent > >> > > >> > No way to insert medium/big thing since long, long times ago . > >> > >> What do you mean by this? ?What did you do, and what happened? > > > > Too many incompatible/forced freenet updates make impossible to run long > > ?inserts > > > > Just this > > Huh? So don't upgrade until the insert finishes, or use persistent > inserts. The last one wasn't mandatory for a week, iirc. Agreed, that doesn't make any sense: As long as an insert is persistent it should finish the insert even after a restart with a new build. So please explain *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED*, instead of just vaguely grumbling without giving us enough information to debug! -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20100706/c179b454/attachment.pgp>
Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Marco A. Calamari wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 14:33 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:50:00 Evan Daniel wrote: >> > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Marco A. Calamari >> wrote: > >> > Huh? So don't upgrade until the insert finishes, or use persistent >> > inserts. The last one wasn't mandatory for a week, iirc. >> >> Agreed, that doesn't make any sense: As long as an insert is >> persistent it should finish the insert even after a restart with a new >> build. >> >> So please explain *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED*, instead of just vaguely >> grumbling without giving us enough information to debug! > > Please do not become nervous and do not scream. > > I'm inserting a rather big site (over 2 parts) using > jSite, with an effective bandwidth of 0.3 KB/sec (calculated > by jSite. The site usually insert in 4-7 days. > No bug at all, but if an update become mandatory in less days > that the site inserts, the jSite insert obviously fail. > > I do not know how insert sites in other ways; persistent insert > are only for files, isn't it? > > I'm not grumbling. Peace. Marco Persistent inserts can be used for any kind of insert, including both sites and single files. I use persistent inserts via a small shell script and FCP to insert my network size stats site, for example. The inserting program just needs to set the appropriate options. In general if you're inserting a site that large, you should at least consider inserting the large files individually and then linking to them from the main site. I'm assuming this isn't all *new* data? If most of the insert remains unchanged, you could save yourself a lot of time this way. Anyway, support for persistent inserts in jSite would obviously be helpful here. Evan Daniel ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 14:33 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:50:00 Evan Daniel wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Marco A. Calamari > wrote: > > Huh? So don't upgrade until the insert finishes, or use persistent > > inserts. The last one wasn't mandatory for a week, iirc. > > Agreed, that doesn't make any sense: As long as an insert is > persistent it should finish the insert even after a restart with a new > build. > > So please explain *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED*, instead of just vaguely > grumbling without giving us enough information to debug! Please do not become nervous and do not scream. I'm inserting a rather big site (over 2 parts) using jSite, with an effective bandwidth of 0.3 KB/sec (calculated by jSite. The site usually insert in 4-7 days. No bug at all, but if an update become mandatory in less days that the site inserts, the jSite insert obviously fail. I do not know how insert sites in other ways; persistent insert are only for files, isn't it? I'm not grumbling. Peace. Marco -- +--- http://www.winstonsmith.info ---+ | il Progetto Winston Smith: scolleghiamo il Grande Fratello | | the Winston Smith Project: unplug the Big Brother | | Marco A. Calamari mar...@marcoc.it http://www.marcoc.it | | DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B | + PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 --+ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
[freenet-dev] USK bookmark updating is broken IMHO, anyone else observing the same?
Yeah I had that problem, I think I had filed a bug report for it. On Jul 6, 2010 9:59 AM, "Matthew Toseland" wrote: On Sunday 04 July 2010 21:17:35 Marco A. Calamari wrote: > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 20:26 +0200, xor wr... Did either of you have the same site bookmarked twice? I've just fixed a bug where only the first bookmark for a given site would be updated... ___ Devl mailing list Devl at freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20100706/c84e8323/attachment.html>
Re: [freenet-dev] USK bookmark updating is broken IMHO, anyone else observing the same?
Yeah I had that problem, I think I had filed a bug report for it. On Jul 6, 2010 9:59 AM, "Matthew Toseland" wrote: On Sunday 04 July 2010 21:17:35 Marco A. Calamari wrote: > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 20:26 +0200, xor wr... Did either of you have the same site bookmarked twice? I've just fixed a bug where only the first bookmark for a given site would be updated... ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] USK bookmark updating is broken IMHO, a nyone else observing the same?
On Sunday 04 July 2010 21:17:35 Marco A. Calamari wrote: > On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 20:26 +0200, xor wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > toad did some major work on USK before 1255, maybe in 1254 or so, I > > cannot > > remember which one it was. > > > > I have the strong feeling that the current code does not cause > > "Bookmarked > > site updated" notifications for every update which happens to a > > Freesite > > - I have observed that my node missed to tell me about an update for > > at least > > 2 different Freesites, for example toad's flog. If I browse to the > > Freesites the > > node DOES seem to show me the latest edition - it just doesn't notify > > me about > > it (even after having browsed to the latest edition there is no > > update > > notification). > > > > Does anyone else have the same feeling? > > Positively yes. Did either of you have the same site bookmarked twice? I've just fixed a bug where only the first bookmark for a given site would be updated... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 (sorry for all the 1255 bugs!)
On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:50:00 Evan Daniel wrote: > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Marco A. Calamari wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 12:59 -0400, Evan Daniel wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marco A. Calamari > >> wrote: > >> > On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 16:30 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > >> >> Freenet 0.7.5 build 1258 is now available, please upgrade. This > >> build > >> >> fixes various bugs, mostly introduced in 1255, including the > >> Internal > >> >> error on some persistent > >> > > >> > No way to insert medium/big thing since long, long times ago . > >> > >> What do you mean by this? What did you do, and what happened? > > > > Too many incompatible/forced freenet updates make impossible to run long > > inserts > > > > Just this > > Huh? So don't upgrade until the insert finishes, or use persistent > inserts. The last one wasn't mandatory for a week, iirc. Agreed, that doesn't make any sense: As long as an insert is persistent it should finish the insert even after a restart with a new build. So please explain *EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED*, instead of just vaguely grumbling without giving us enough information to debug! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
