[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Evan Daniel]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Michael Grube  
wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Evan Daniel  wrote:
>>
>> Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
>> given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
>> problems even without an active adversary.
>
>
> Could you be more specific? Are you talking about the clustering that occurs
> on its own?
>
> The paper I am writing simulates proposed solutions to the pitch black
> attack and measures their effectiveness. Assuming I can get that done in
> short order, I will begin looking for better approaches if they can be
> improved upon.

It's been too long since I looked at this to give as complete an
answer as I'd like. I can dive back into it at some point if there's
interest.

One big thing: there's anecdotal evidence that (opennet) link length
distributions show very different patterns for nodes doing a lot of
downloading than for nodes that aren't. Specifically, nodes doing
downloads have a more uniform distribution, not a 1/d distribution. I
don't think there's been any systematic investigation of whether this
occurs, or how big a problem with routing the resultant networks have
in simulation. If someone is seriously interested in this, I think my
periodic network stats scripts probably have enough information to
tackle it. Send me an email and I'll get you raw data to play with. (I
don't realistically have time anytime soon.)

(Yes, I realize that's an opennet problem and Pitch Black is a darknet
problem. My response is that the opennet problems should be a lot
easier to investigate, given that we have a large live network, and we
haven't even bothered with that much.)

Evan

Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Evan Daniel]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Michael Grube  wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Evan Daniel  wrote:
>>
>> Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
>> given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
>> problems even without an active adversary.
>
>
> Could you be more specific? Are you talking about the clustering that occurs
> on its own?
>
> The paper I am writing simulates proposed solutions to the pitch black
> attack and measures their effectiveness. Assuming I can get that done in
> short order, I will begin looking for better approaches if they can be
> improved upon.

It's been too long since I looked at this to give as complete an
answer as I'd like. I can dive back into it at some point if there's
interest.

One big thing: there's anecdotal evidence that (opennet) link length
distributions show very different patterns for nodes doing a lot of
downloading than for nodes that aren't. Specifically, nodes doing
downloads have a more uniform distribution, not a 1/d distribution. I
don't think there's been any systematic investigation of whether this
occurs, or how big a problem with routing the resultant networks have
in simulation. If someone is seriously interested in this, I think my
periodic network stats scripts probably have enough information to
tackle it. Send me an email and I'll get you raw data to play with. (I
don't realistically have time anytime soon.)

(Yes, I realize that's an opennet problem and Pitch Black is a darknet
problem. My response is that the opennet problems should be a lot
easier to investigate, given that we have a large live network, and we
haven't even bothered with that much.)

Evan
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[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Ximin Luo]

IIRC it was PET (Privacy-Enhancing Technologies) that rejected the last paper,
due to it not having a focus on security?

IEEE P2P is not so security-oriented, I think, in which case we would have a
better chance of being accepted by them.

X

On 15/01/12 23:46, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past specifically
> because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black paper, so
> submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
> 
> Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely he 
> may
> be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too, but Theo
> has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
> 
> Ian.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info!
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke  > wrote:
> 
> fyi
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *David Hausheer*  >
> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
> To: David Hausheer  >
> 
> 
> 
> ##__##__#
>  IEEE P2P 2012
>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
> CALL FOR PAPERS
> 
> ##__##__#
> 
> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
> 
> 
> ##__##__##
> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
> 
> ##__##__##
> 
> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
> including:
> 
>* Information retrieval and query support
>* P2P for cloud computing
>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>* Security, trust, and reputation
>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>* P2P economics
>* Social networks
>* Overlay architectures and topologies
>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>* Overlay monitoring and management
>* Self-organization
>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
> 
> 
> 
> ++__++
> Paper submission guidelines
> ++__++
> 
> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
> 
> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
> Society.
> 
> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. th

[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Michael Grube]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ian Clarke  wrote:

> Will you submit?


Under the assumption that the paper is where it needs to be by the
deadline, yes.


>  These guys have rejected our papers in the past specifically because we
> haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black paper, so submitting a
> response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
>
> Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely
> he may be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too,
> but Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
>

That's a nice lead. Thanks!


>
> Ian.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube  gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke > freenetproject.org>wrote:
>>
>>> fyi
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: David Hausheer 
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
>>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
>>> To: David Hausheer 
>>>
>>>
>>> ##**##**
>>> #
>>>  IEEE P2P 2012
>>>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
>>> CALL FOR PAPERS
>>> ##**##**
>>> #
>>>
>>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
>>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
>>>
>>> ##**##**
>>> ##
>>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
>>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
>>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
>>> ##**##**
>>> ##
>>>
>>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
>>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
>>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
>>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
>>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
>>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
>>> including:
>>>
>>>* Information retrieval and query support
>>>* P2P for cloud computing
>>>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>>>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>>>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>>>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>>>* Security, trust, and reputation
>>>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>>>* P2P economics
>>>* Social networks
>>>* Overlay architectures and topologies
>>>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>>>* Overlay monitoring and management
>>>* Self-organization
>>>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>>>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>>>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++**++
>>> Paper submission guidelines
>>> ++**++
>>>
>>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
>>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
>>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
>>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
>>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
>>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
>>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
>>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
>>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
>>>
>>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
>>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
>>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
>>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
>>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
>>> Society.
>>>
>>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
>>> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
>>> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
>>> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
>>> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
>>> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
>>> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
>>> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
>>>
>>> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
>>> reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
>>> changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
>>> submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
>>> transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will rece

[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Michael Grube]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Evan Daniel  wrote:

> Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
> given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
> problems even without an active adversary.
>

Could you be more specific? Are you talking about the clustering that
occurs on its own?

The paper I am writing simulates proposed solutions to the pitch black
attack and measures their effectiveness. Assuming I can get that done in
short order, I will begin looking for better approaches if they can be
improved upon.
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[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Evan Daniel]

Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
problems even without an active adversary.

I continue to think that the biggest thing preventing routing layer
improvements is a fairly deep lack of understanding of what is
actually happening on the network.

And, if you're looking for papers, I think several interesting ones
could be written on that subject :)

Evan Daniel

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ian Clarke  wrote:
> Will you submit? ?These guys have rejected our papers in the past
> specifically because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black
> paper, so submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
>
> Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong? ?If you ask him very nicely he
> may be willing to provide feedback on your paper. ?Of course I will too, but
> Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
>
> Ian.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> fyi
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: David Hausheer 
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
>>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
>>> To: David Hausheer 
>>>
>>>
>>> #
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?IEEE P2P 2012
>>> ?12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? CALL FOR PAPERS
>>> #
>>>
>>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
>>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
>>>
>>> ##
>>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
>>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
>>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
>>> ##
>>>
>>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
>>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
>>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
>>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
>>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
>>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
>>> including:
>>>
>>> ? ?* Information retrieval and query support
>>> ? ?* P2P for cloud computing
>>> ? ?* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>>> ? ?* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>>> ? ?* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>>> ? ?* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>>> ? ?* Security, trust, and reputation
>>> ? ?* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>>> ? ?* P2P economics
>>> ? ?* Social networks
>>> ? ?* Overlay architectures and topologies
>>> ? ?* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>>> ? ?* Overlay monitoring and management
>>> ? ?* Self-organization
>>> ? ?* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>>> ? ?* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>>> ? ?* Performance, robustness, and scalability
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Paper submission guidelines
>>> 
>>>
>>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
>>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
>>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
>>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
>>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
>>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
>>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
>>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
>>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
>>>
>>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
>>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
>>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
>>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
>>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
>>> Society.
>>>
>>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
>>> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
>>> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
>>> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
>>> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
>>> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
>>> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
>>> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
>>>
>>> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to th

Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Michael Grube]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ian Clarke  wrote:

> Will you submit?


Under the assumption that the paper is where it needs to be by the
deadline, yes.


>  These guys have rejected our papers in the past specifically because we
> haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black paper, so submitting a
> response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
>
> Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely
> he may be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too,
> but Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
>

That's a nice lead. Thanks!


>
> Ian.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> fyi
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: David Hausheer 
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
>>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
>>> To: David Hausheer 
>>>
>>>
>>> ##**##**
>>> #
>>>  IEEE P2P 2012
>>>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
>>> CALL FOR PAPERS
>>> ##**##**
>>> #
>>>
>>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
>>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
>>>
>>> ##**##**
>>> ##
>>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
>>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
>>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
>>> ##**##**
>>> ##
>>>
>>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
>>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
>>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
>>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
>>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
>>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
>>> including:
>>>
>>>* Information retrieval and query support
>>>* P2P for cloud computing
>>>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>>>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>>>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>>>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>>>* Security, trust, and reputation
>>>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>>>* P2P economics
>>>* Social networks
>>>* Overlay architectures and topologies
>>>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>>>* Overlay monitoring and management
>>>* Self-organization
>>>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>>>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>>>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++**++
>>> Paper submission guidelines
>>> ++**++
>>>
>>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
>>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
>>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
>>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
>>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
>>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
>>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
>>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
>>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
>>>
>>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
>>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
>>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
>>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
>>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
>>> Society.
>>>
>>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
>>> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
>>> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
>>> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
>>> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
>>> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
>>> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
>>> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
>>>
>>> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
>>> reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
>>> changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
>>> submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
>>> transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will receive between
>>> 3 and 5 reviews 

Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Michael Grube]

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Evan Daniel  wrote:

> Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
> given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
> problems even without an active adversary.
>

Could you be more specific? Are you talking about the clustering that
occurs on its own?

The paper I am writing simulates proposed solutions to the pitch black
attack and measures their effectiveness. Assuming I can get that done in
short order, I will begin looking for better approaches if they can be
improved upon.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Rich Jones]

Thanks for this link! I might write up a little paper on a little p2p
project I just made: http://share.gun.io

(I've also just started a mailing list for people who are interested in
hacking on web-based P2P software, if anybody is interested:
web...@librelist.com)

Thanks again!
Rich

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Evan Daniel  wrote:

> Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
> given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
> problems even without an active adversary.
>
> I continue to think that the biggest thing preventing routing layer
> improvements is a fairly deep lack of understanding of what is
> actually happening on the network.
>
> And, if you're looking for papers, I think several interesting ones
> could be written on that subject :)
>
> Evan Daniel
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ian Clarke  wrote:
> > Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past
> > specifically because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black
> > paper, so submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
> >
> > Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely
> he
> > may be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too,
> but
> > Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> fyi
> >>>
> >>> -- Forwarded message --
> >>> From: David Hausheer 
> >>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
> >>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
> >>> To: David Hausheer 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>  IEEE P2P 2012
> >>>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
> >>> CALL FOR PAPERS
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
> >>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
> >>>
> >>> ##
> >>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
> >>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
> >>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
> >>> ##
> >>>
> >>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
> >>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
> >>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
> >>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
> >>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
> >>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
> >>> including:
> >>>
> >>>* Information retrieval and query support
> >>>* P2P for cloud computing
> >>>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
> >>>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
> >>>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
> >>>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
> >>>* Security, trust, and reputation
> >>>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
> >>>* P2P economics
> >>>* Social networks
> >>>* Overlay architectures and topologies
> >>>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
> >>>* Overlay monitoring and management
> >>>* Self-organization
> >>>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
> >>>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
> >>>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> Paper submission guidelines
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
> >>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
> >>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
> >>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
> >>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
> >>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
> >>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
> >>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
> >>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
> >>>
> >>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
> >>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
> >>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
> >>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
> >>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
> >>> Society.
> >>>
> >>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
> 

[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Rich Jones]

Thanks for this link! I might write up a little paper on a little p2p
project I just made: http://share.gun.io

(I've also just started a mailing list for people who are interested in
hacking on web-based P2P software, if anybody is interested:
webp2p at librelist.com)

Thanks again!
Rich

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Evan Daniel  wrote:

> Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
> given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
> problems even without an active adversary.
>
> I continue to think that the biggest thing preventing routing layer
> improvements is a fairly deep lack of understanding of what is
> actually happening on the network.
>
> And, if you're looking for papers, I think several interesting ones
> could be written on that subject :)
>
> Evan Daniel
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ian Clarke  wrote:
> > Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past
> > specifically because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black
> > paper, so submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
> >
> > Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely
> he
> > may be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too,
> but
> > Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> fyi
> >>>
> >>> -- Forwarded message --
> >>> From: David Hausheer 
> >>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
> >>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
> >>> To: David Hausheer 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>  IEEE P2P 2012
> >>>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
> >>> CALL FOR PAPERS
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
> >>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
> >>>
> >>> ##
> >>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
> >>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
> >>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
> >>> ##
> >>>
> >>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
> >>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
> >>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
> >>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
> >>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
> >>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
> >>> including:
> >>>
> >>>* Information retrieval and query support
> >>>* P2P for cloud computing
> >>>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
> >>>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
> >>>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
> >>>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
> >>>* Security, trust, and reputation
> >>>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
> >>>* P2P economics
> >>>* Social networks
> >>>* Overlay architectures and topologies
> >>>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
> >>>* Overlay monitoring and management
> >>>* Self-organization
> >>>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
> >>>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
> >>>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> Paper submission guidelines
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
> >>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
> >>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
> >>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
> >>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
> >>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
> >>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
> >>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
> >>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
> >>>
> >>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
> >>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
> >>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
> >>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
> >>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
> >>> Society.
> >>>
> >>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review

Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Evan Daniel]

Submitting a response to the Pitch Black paper seems a bit premature,
given that in the real world we probably have network distribution
problems even without an active adversary.

I continue to think that the biggest thing preventing routing layer
improvements is a fairly deep lack of understanding of what is
actually happening on the network.

And, if you're looking for papers, I think several interesting ones
could be written on that subject :)

Evan Daniel

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Ian Clarke  wrote:
> Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past
> specifically because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black
> paper, so submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
>
> Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely he
> may be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too, but
> Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
>
> Ian.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the info!
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> fyi
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: David Hausheer 
>>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
>>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
>>> To: David Hausheer 
>>>
>>>
>>> #
>>>                  IEEE P2P 2012
>>>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
>>>                 CALL FOR PAPERS
>>> #
>>>
>>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
>>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
>>>
>>> ##
>>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
>>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
>>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
>>> ##
>>>
>>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
>>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
>>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
>>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
>>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
>>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
>>> including:
>>>
>>>    * Information retrieval and query support
>>>    * P2P for cloud computing
>>>    * Large-scale infrastructure technology
>>>    * Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>>>    * P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>>>    * Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>>>    * Security, trust, and reputation
>>>    * Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>>>    * P2P economics
>>>    * Social networks
>>>    * Overlay architectures and topologies
>>>    * Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>>>    * Overlay monitoring and management
>>>    * Self-organization
>>>    * P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>>>    * Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>>>    * Performance, robustness, and scalability
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Paper submission guidelines
>>> 
>>>
>>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
>>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
>>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
>>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
>>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
>>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
>>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
>>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
>>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
>>>
>>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
>>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
>>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
>>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
>>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
>>> Society.
>>>
>>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
>>> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
>>> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
>>> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
>>> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
>>> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
>>> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
>>> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
>>>
>>> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to th

[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Ian Clarke]

Ah, you're right Ximin, I got mixed up.

Ian.

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Ximin Luo  wrote:

> IIRC it was PET (Privacy-Enhancing Technologies) that rejected the last
> paper,
> due to it not having a focus on security?
>
> IEEE P2P is not so security-oriented, I think, in which case we would have
> a
> better chance of being accepted by them.
>
> X
>
> On 15/01/12 23:46, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past
> specifically
> > because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black paper, so
> > submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
> >
> > Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely
> he may
> > be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too, but
> Theo
> > has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube  > > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info!
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke  > > wrote:
> >
> > fyi
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: *David Hausheer*  > >
> > Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
> > Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
> > To: David Hausheer  > >
> >
> >
> >
> ##__##__#
> >  IEEE P2P 2012
> >  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
> > CALL FOR PAPERS
> >
> ##__##__#
> >
> > September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
> > http://www.ieee-p2p.org
> >
> >
> ##__##__##
> > # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
> > # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
> > # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
> >
> ##__##__##
> >
> > The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of
> large-scale
> > distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
> > furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
> > large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that
> investigates
> > real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
> > original contributions on this general theme along a range of
> topics
> > including:
> >
> >* Information retrieval and query support
> >* P2P for cloud computing
> >* Large-scale infrastructure technology
> >* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
> >* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
> >* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
> >* Security, trust, and reputation
> >* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
> >* P2P economics
> >* Social networks
> >* Overlay architectures and topologies
> >* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
> >* Overlay monitoring and management
> >* Self-organization
> >* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
> >* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
> >* Performance, robustness, and scalability
> >
> >
> >
> > ++__++
> > Paper submission guidelines
> > ++__++
> >
> > Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
> > (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a
> 10-point
> > font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short
> papers
> > should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present
> work
> > that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level
> vision,
> > describe challenging future directions or offer results that do
> not
> > merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
> > evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the
> paper
> > and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
> >
> > Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through
> the EDAS
> > paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
> > templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
> > information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage.
> The
> > conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE
> Communications
> > Society.
> >
> > All submiss

[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Ian Clarke]

Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past
specifically because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black
paper, so submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.

Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely he
may be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too,
but Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.

Ian.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube wrote:

> Thanks for the info!
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>
>> fyi
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: David Hausheer 
>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
>> To: David Hausheer 
>>
>>
>> ##**##**#
>>  IEEE P2P 2012
>>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
>> CALL FOR PAPERS
>> ##**##**#
>>
>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
>>
>> ##**##**
>> ##
>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
>> ##**##**
>> ##
>>
>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
>> including:
>>
>>* Information retrieval and query support
>>* P2P for cloud computing
>>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>>* Security, trust, and reputation
>>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>>* P2P economics
>>* Social networks
>>* Overlay architectures and topologies
>>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>>* Overlay monitoring and management
>>* Self-organization
>>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
>>
>>
>>
>> ++**++
>> Paper submission guidelines
>> ++**++
>>
>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
>>
>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
>> Society.
>>
>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
>> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
>> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
>> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
>> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
>> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
>> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
>> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
>>
>> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
>> reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
>> changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
>> submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
>> transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will receive between
>> 3 and 5 reviews each; while all papers will receive at least 3
>> reviews, papers of sufficient quality will undergo a second reviewing
>> phase. In addition, the camera-ready version of each accepted paper
>> will be accompanied by a 1-page summary that consists of the
>> significant portions of the (anonymized) r

Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Ian Clarke]

Ah, you're right Ximin, I got mixed up.

Ian.

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Ximin Luo  wrote:

> IIRC it was PET (Privacy-Enhancing Technologies) that rejected the last
> paper,
> due to it not having a focus on security?
>
> IEEE P2P is not so security-oriented, I think, in which case we would have
> a
> better chance of being accepted by them.
>
> X
>
> On 15/01/12 23:46, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past
> specifically
> > because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black paper, so
> > submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
> >
> > Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely
> he may
> > be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too, but
> Theo
> > has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube  > > wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info!
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke  > > wrote:
> >
> > fyi
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: *David Hausheer*  > >
> > Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
> > Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
> > To: David Hausheer  > >
> >
> >
> >
> ##__##__#
> >  IEEE P2P 2012
> >  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
> > CALL FOR PAPERS
> >
> ##__##__#
> >
> > September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
> > http://www.ieee-p2p.org
> >
> >
> ##__##__##
> > # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
> > # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
> > # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
> >
> ##__##__##
> >
> > The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of
> large-scale
> > distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
> > furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
> > large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that
> investigates
> > real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
> > original contributions on this general theme along a range of
> topics
> > including:
> >
> >* Information retrieval and query support
> >* P2P for cloud computing
> >* Large-scale infrastructure technology
> >* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
> >* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
> >* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
> >* Security, trust, and reputation
> >* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
> >* P2P economics
> >* Social networks
> >* Overlay architectures and topologies
> >* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
> >* Overlay monitoring and management
> >* Self-organization
> >* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
> >* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
> >* Performance, robustness, and scalability
> >
> >
> >
> > ++__++
> > Paper submission guidelines
> > ++__++
> >
> > Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
> > (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a
> 10-point
> > font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short
> papers
> > should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present
> work
> > that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level
> vision,
> > describe challenging future directions or offer results that do
> not
> > merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
> > evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the
> paper
> > and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
> >
> > Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through
> the EDAS
> > paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
> > templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
> > information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage.
> The
> > conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE
> Communications
> > Society.
> >
> > All submissions will b

Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Ximin Luo]

IIRC it was PET (Privacy-Enhancing Technologies) that rejected the last paper,
due to it not having a focus on security?

IEEE P2P is not so security-oriented, I think, in which case we would have a
better chance of being accepted by them.

X

On 15/01/12 23:46, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past specifically
> because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black paper, so
> submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.
> 
> Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely he 
> may
> be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too, but Theo
> has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.
> 
> Ian.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info!
> 
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke  > wrote:
> 
> fyi
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *David Hausheer*  >
> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
> To: David Hausheer  >
> 
> 
> 
> ##__##__#
>  IEEE P2P 2012
>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
> CALL FOR PAPERS
> 
> ##__##__#
> 
> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
> 
> 
> ##__##__##
> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
> 
> ##__##__##
> 
> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
> including:
> 
>* Information retrieval and query support
>* P2P for cloud computing
>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>* Security, trust, and reputation
>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>* P2P economics
>* Social networks
>* Overlay architectures and topologies
>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>* Overlay monitoring and management
>* Self-organization
>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
> 
> 
> 
> ++__++
> Paper submission guidelines
> ++__++
> 
> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
> 
> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
> Society.
> 
> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
>   

Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Ian Clarke]

Will you submit?  These guys have rejected our papers in the past
specifically because we haven't yet formally responded to the Pitch Black
paper, so submitting a response to it would be a pretty good thing IMHO.

Have you had any contact with Theodore Hong?  If you ask him very nicely he
may be willing to provide feedback on your paper.  Of course I will too,
but Theo has a lot more experience with academic papers than I do.

Ian.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Michael Grube wrote:

> Thanks for the info!
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke wrote:
>
>> fyi
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: David Hausheer 
>> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
>> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
>> To: David Hausheer 
>>
>>
>> ##**##**#
>>  IEEE P2P 2012
>>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
>> CALL FOR PAPERS
>> ##**##**#
>>
>> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
>> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
>>
>> ##**##**
>> ##
>> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
>> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
>> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
>> ##**##**
>> ##
>>
>> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
>> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
>> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
>> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
>> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
>> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
>> including:
>>
>>* Information retrieval and query support
>>* P2P for cloud computing
>>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>>* Security, trust, and reputation
>>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>>* P2P economics
>>* Social networks
>>* Overlay architectures and topologies
>>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>>* Overlay monitoring and management
>>* Self-organization
>>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
>>
>>
>>
>> ++**++
>> Paper submission guidelines
>> ++**++
>>
>> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
>> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
>> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
>> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
>> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
>> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
>> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
>> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
>> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
>>
>> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
>> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
>> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
>> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
>> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
>> Society.
>>
>> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
>> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
>> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
>> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
>> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
>> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
>> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
>> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
>>
>> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
>> reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
>> changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
>> submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
>> transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will receive between
>> 3 and 5 reviews each; while all papers will receive at least 3
>> reviews, papers of sufficient quality will undergo a second reviewing
>> phase. In addition, the camera-ready version of each accepted paper
>> will be accompanied by a 1-page summary that consists of the
>> significant portions of the (anonymized) r

[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Michael Grube]

Thanks for the info!

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke  wrote:

> fyi
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: David Hausheer 
> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
> To: David Hausheer 
>
>
> ##**##**#
>  IEEE P2P 2012
>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
> CALL FOR PAPERS
> ##**##**#
>
> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
>
> ##**##**##
> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
> ##**##**##
>
> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
> including:
>
>* Information retrieval and query support
>* P2P for cloud computing
>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>* Security, trust, and reputation
>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>* P2P economics
>* Social networks
>* Overlay architectures and topologies
>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>* Overlay monitoring and management
>* Self-organization
>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
>
>
>
> ++**++
> Paper submission guidelines
> ++**++
>
> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
>
> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
> Society.
>
> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
>
> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
> reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
> changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
> submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
> transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will receive between
> 3 and 5 reviews each; while all papers will receive at least 3
> reviews, papers of sufficient quality will undergo a second reviewing
> phase. In addition, the camera-ready version of each accepted paper
> will be accompanied by a 1-page summary that consists of the
> significant portions of the (anonymized) reviews that the paper
> received during the reviewing process and a 1-paragraph summary by the
> authors detailing how they addressed the reviewers' comments. The
> conference proceedings as well as the conference website will include
> the camera-ready version of each accepted paper together with the
> corresponding 1-page summary review.
>
> In addition to the main conference, IEEE P2P 2012 will have a poster
> and demo session, and a conference best paper award.  Thanks to the
> supporting organizations, P2P 2012 also plans to offer a small number
> of travel grants . Application Informa

[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Ian Clarke]

fyi

-- Forwarded message --
From: David Hausheer 
Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
To: David Hausheer 


##**##**#
 IEEE P2P 2012
 12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
CALL FOR PAPERS
##**##**#

September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
http://www.ieee-p2p.org

##**##**##
# Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
# Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
# by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
##**##**##

The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
including:

   * Information retrieval and query support
   * P2P for cloud computing
   * Large-scale infrastructure technology
   * Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
   * P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
   * Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
   * Security, trust, and reputation
   * Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
   * P2P economics
   * Social networks
   * Overlay architectures and topologies
   * Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
   * Overlay monitoring and management
   * Self-organization
   * P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
   * Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
   * Performance, robustness, and scalability



++**++
Paper submission guidelines
++**++

Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
(following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.

Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
Society.

All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.

*Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will receive between
3 and 5 reviews each; while all papers will receive at least 3
reviews, papers of sufficient quality will undergo a second reviewing
phase. In addition, the camera-ready version of each accepted paper
will be accompanied by a 1-page summary that consists of the
significant portions of the (anonymized) reviews that the paper
received during the reviewing process and a 1-paragraph summary by the
authors detailing how they addressed the reviewers' comments. The
conference proceedings as well as the conference website will include
the camera-ready version of each accepted paper together with the
corresponding 1-page summary review.

In addition to the main conference, IEEE P2P 2012 will have a poster
and demo session, and a conference best paper award.  Thanks to the
supporting organizations, P2P 2012 also plans to offer a small number
of travel grants . Application Information for these grants will be
published in the P2P'12 web site.

++
Important Dates
++

 * Abstract Submission: April 6, 2012
 * Submission Deadline: April 13, 2012
 * Notification: July 9, 2012
 * Author Registration Deadline: July 

Re: [freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Michael Grube]

Thanks for the info!

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Ian Clarke  wrote:

> fyi
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: David Hausheer 
> Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
> Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
> To: David Hausheer 
>
>
> ##**##**#
>  IEEE P2P 2012
>  12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
> CALL FOR PAPERS
> ##**##**#
>
> September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
> http://www.ieee-p2p.org
>
> ##**##**##
> # Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
> # Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
> # by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
> ##**##**##
>
> The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
> distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
> furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
> large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
> real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
> original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
> including:
>
>* Information retrieval and query support
>* P2P for cloud computing
>* Large-scale infrastructure technology
>* Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
>* P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
>* Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
>* Security, trust, and reputation
>* Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
>* P2P economics
>* Social networks
>* Overlay architectures and topologies
>* Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
>* Overlay monitoring and management
>* Self-organization
>* P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
>* Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
>* Performance, robustness, and scalability
>
>
>
> ++**++
> Paper submission guidelines
> ++**++
>
> Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
> (following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
> font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
> should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
> that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
> describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
> merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
> evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
> and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.
>
> Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
> paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
> templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
> information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
> conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
> Society.
>
> All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
> process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
> removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
> information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
> might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
> anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
> describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
> allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.
>
> *Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
> reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
> changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
> submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
> transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will receive between
> 3 and 5 reviews each; while all papers will receive at least 3
> reviews, papers of sufficient quality will undergo a second reviewing
> phase. In addition, the camera-ready version of each accepted paper
> will be accompanied by a 1-page summary that consists of the
> significant portions of the (anonymized) reviews that the paper
> received during the reviewing process and a 1-paragraph summary by the
> authors detailing how they addressed the reviewers' comments. The
> conference proceedings as well as the conference website will include
> the camera-ready version of each accepted paper together with the
> corresponding 1-page summary review.
>
> In addition to the main conference, IEEE P2P 2012 will have a poster
> and demo session, and a conference best paper award.  Thanks to the
> supporting organizations, P2P 2012 also plans to offer a small number
> of travel grants . Application Informa

[freenet-dev] Fwd: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012

[Ian Clarke]

fyi

-- Forwarded message --
From: David Hausheer 
Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM
Subject: Call for Papers: IEEE P2P 2012
To: David Hausheer 


##**##**#
 IEEE P2P 2012
 12th International Conference in Peer-to-Peer Computing
CALL FOR PAPERS
##**##**#

September 3-5 2012, Tarragona (Spain)
http://www.ieee-p2p.org

##**##**##
# Papers Due: *** April, 13 2012 ***
# Accepted papers will be published in the conference proceedings
# by the IEEE Computer Society Press, which are indexed by EI.
##**##**##

The P2P'12 conference solicits papers on all aspects of large-scale
distributed computing. Of particular interest is research that
furthers the state-of-the-art in the design and analysis of
large-scale distributed applications and systems, or that investigates
real, deployed, applications or systems. We seek high-quality and
original contributions on this general theme along a range of topics
including:

   * Information retrieval and query support
   * P2P for cloud computing
   * Large-scale infrastructure technology
   * Semantic overlay networks and semantic query routing
   * P2P for grids, clouds, and datacenters
   * Deployed (commercial) applications and systems
   * Security, trust, and reputation
   * Cooperation, incentives, and fairness
   * P2P economics
   * Social networks
   * Overlay architectures and topologies
   * Overlay interaction with underlying infrastructure
   * Overlay monitoring and management
   * Self-organization
   * P2P applications and systems over mobile networks
   * Measurements and modeling of P2P and cloud systems
   * Performance, robustness, and scalability



++**++
Paper submission guidelines
++**++

Papers can be submitted either as full papers or as short papers
(following the IEEE single-spaced two-column format and a 10-point
font size). Full papers should not exceed 10 pages and short papers
should not exceed 5 pages. Short papers are expected to present work
that is less mature but holds promise, articulate a high-level vision,
describe challenging future directions or offer results that do not
merit a full submission. Please note that short papers also need
evaluation results or analysis to corroborate the claims of the paper
and that a paper longer than 5 pages is treated as a full paper.

Papers must be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS
paper-submission website linked from the conference website. IEEE
templates for LaTeX and Microsoft Word, as well as related
information, can be found at the IEEE Digital Toolbox webpage. The
conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Communications
Society.

All submissions will be evaluated using a double-blind review
process. To ensure blind reviewing, papers should be anonymized by
removing author names and affiliations, as well as by masking any
information about projects and bibliographic references, etc. that
might reveal the authors' identities. Papers that are not properly
anonymized will be rejected without review. Submitted papers should
describe original and previously unpublished research and are not
allowed to be simultaneously submitted or under review elsewhere.

*Note:* P2P 2012 will experiment with two changes to the traditional
reviewing process: two-phase reviewing and "open reviews". These
changes are an effort to provide additional feedback to authors of
submitted papers and make the overall reviewing process more
transparent. Specifically, all paper submissions will receive between
3 and 5 reviews each; while all papers will receive at least 3
reviews, papers of sufficient quality will undergo a second reviewing
phase. In addition, the camera-ready version of each accepted paper
will be accompanied by a 1-page summary that consists of the
significant portions of the (anonymized) reviews that the paper
received during the reviewing process and a 1-paragraph summary by the
authors detailing how they addressed the reviewers' comments. The
conference proceedings as well as the conference website will include
the camera-ready version of each accepted paper together with the
corresponding 1-page summary review.

In addition to the main conference, IEEE P2P 2012 will have a poster
and demo session, and a conference best paper award.  Thanks to the
supporting organizations, P2P 2012 also plans to offer a small number
of travel grants . Application Information for these grants will be
published in the P2P'12 web site.

++
Important Dates
++

 * Abstract Submission: April 6, 2012
 * Submission Deadline: April 13, 2012
 * Notification: July 9, 2012
 * Author Registration Deadline: July