Re: [freenet-dev] FLIP, chatting over Freenet with 60s round-trip time
On 17/10/15 09:17, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015, 17:29:45 schrieb Matthew Toseland: >> Even chat/forums are slow > Did you ever use FLIP? We get 60s round-trip time there. > > → http://freesocial.draketo.de/flip_en.html > > FLIP feels just like regular IRC (because people need some time to > write their answers anyway). > > And that means we can implement any kind of Chat on top of Freenet. > > Here’s how to get down to 80s round trip time using pyFreenet: > > http://draketo.de/light/english/freenet/communication-primitives-1-files-and-sites#sec-3-1 > > So please stop the doomsaying. > > Best wishes, > Arne > -- > singing a part of the history of free software: > > - http://infinite-hands.draketo.de We know how to get this down to ~ 10 seconds: - New ECC-based SSKs. - Different sized SSKs: 800 bytes (1 packet insert, for chat), ~ 2KB (normal for top blocks), 32KB (CHK-sized for forums). Then we could have a per-request "trigger ULPRs immediately" option, although I'm still not sure about the security of that. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
Re: [freenet-dev] FLIP, chatting over Freenet with 60s round-trip time
Am Samstag, 17. Oktober 2015, 17:39:48 schrieb Matthew Toseland: > We know how to get this down to ~ 10 seconds: > - New ECC-based SSKs. > - Different sized SSKs: 800 bytes (1 packet insert, for chat), ~ 2KB > (normal for top blocks), 32KB (CHK-sized for forums). We don’t have the resources at the moment to do this. And if we had them, we should invest them into fixing things which are broken. 80s for chat don’t really hurt. Evidenced by FLIP chats working well in real life. If a volunteer wants to take it up to implement and debug this, sure, but I would be opposed to investing money into that right now. Best wishes, Arne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
