Re: EML plug-in for Dia (fwd)

2001-04-20 Thread Lars Clausen

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Alexander Larsson wrote:

 Can someone take a look at this and commit it to cvs. I'm very short on
 time currently.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:45:11 +0600
 From: Vladimir Sekissov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: EML plug-in for Dia
 
 Dear, Alexander.
 
 I posted this message to James Henstridge three weeks ago but haven't
 any response yet.
 
 I wrote Event Modeling Language plug-in for Dia. Would you get it
 from http://disney.surnet.ru/dia and put into CVS if code is correct
 or/and send me comments and suggestions.

Thank you, it looks good.  It's in CVS now.  I have a bunch of suggestions,
but no showstoppers:

For the Process object:  Make it so that at least some of the text can be
written directly into the diagram, rather than having to open the
properties dialog each time.  I'm not sure which would be more appropriate,
as I don't know the EML.

Could the first two tabs be combined into one, so there isn't so much dead
space?  Possibly with a labelled box around them.

The Interfaces area doesn't really need the 'Move Up' and 'Move Down'
buttons, as they do the same as when you click on the (scrollable) list.
My first thought was that they rearranged the interfaces.

The interface name entry box should understand Enter.

For the three other objects:  Use the standard properties code rather than
putting GTK code into the objects.  It's easier and more future-proof.

For the Instantiation object:  Make the segment with the arrows on it long
enough to have the polyline go past the arrows.

For everything:  It would be nice if it understood at least the color
selection.  Many people have asked for UML with color, and it does color
now, though not via the standard color selection:(

None of these are showstoppers, just ideas for improvement.  Thank you for
the contribution!

-Lars


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Re: starting dia on solaris

2001-04-20 Thread adam morley

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 02:09:24PM -1100, Melanie Gault wrote:
 hello
 
 I try to install dia 0.86 on a solaris system.
 after installing all libs needed (glib gtk gdk-pixbuf and libxml)

where'd you put evetything?  the really bad /usr/local?

 I compile and install dia. All works without a problem...
 
 but when I try to launch it... I got :
 Couldn't find objectswhen looking for gt; object-libs, exiting.
 

ugh.  sounds like it cant find your libs.  can you run:

$ dia

and send all the output?

 I try to do as the FAQ says... : ldconfig, but it does not exists on my
 system.

ldconfig doenst exist in solaris, mainly because ldconfig is a hack.  properally 
compiled/built apps dont even need it.

 I read archives, and find some people with the same problem as mine, but
 not the solution...
 I try to set an env. variable LD_LIBRAIRY_PATH but it does'nt work much
 better...

technically, if built right you wont need ldconfig (mostly a linux thing) or 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

add -Ryour library path to the variable LDFLAGS in the Makefile.  well, all 
makefiles.


if the configure script is written correctly, you should be able to pass both the 
environment variables CFLAGS and LDFLAGS to specify where the comipler and linker 
should look for things:

something like this (just what i had in this particular window)
CFLAGS=-xCC -xO5 -xtarget=ultra2 -xbuiltin=%all -xdepend -xvector -xarch=v9a
(for sun's compiler, not gcc.)
LDFLAGS=-L/opt/gnome/lib -R/opt/gnome/lib

note that ldflags is only used when linking object files whereas cflags is used for 
compilation.  sometimes (like when compiling sparcv9 binaries) you have to tell ld 
we're using -xarch=v9, so it will link okay.  but you shouldn't run in to that.  (and 
i wouldn't recommend building 64 bit stuff until youve done a fair amount of work with 
solaris and getting configure/makefile stuff to work, because sometimes you have to do 
some funky stuff *to* get it to work.)

the key here is what is called a link time library path and a run time library path.  
link time is something like:

-L/usr/local/lib
run time is:
-R/usr/local/lib
(linux uses something like -rpath /usr/local/lib)

this compiles in to the executable (done at link time) the path to search for 
libraries.  so when a binary runs it will then search your library path the /usr/lib 
(though it might be the revers, cant remember).

this prevents something like what is done in ld.so.conf (the configuration file used 
by ldconfig in linxu) which will go out and stat all the dirs in your ld.so.conf file 
when the binary runs.  the runtime path will only stat what you tell it to stat.  

its really cool when trying out new versions of your libraries, especially if you put 
your devel libs somewhere other than your production libs, because your production 
apps wont get touched by the new apps (the whole seperate directoy thing)

anyways, give me some more stuff on exactly what comes out of running dia, and ill try 
and help.

 
 I'm a newbie in solaris and unix world, so I don't know what I can do to
 make dia work...
 
 please help...
 
 thx
 
 Melanie
 
 
 

-- 
thanks
adam




labels for lines?

2001-04-20 Thread john manoogian III


is there a way to stick a text label to a line in dia, to identify the
relationship that the line signifies? i want the label to follow the line
when i move it.

[please cc: your replies to me; i am not a list subscriber]

thanks in advance,

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Re: labels for lines?

2001-04-20 Thread David Thompson

  is there a way to stick a text label to a line in dia, to identify the
  relationship that the line signifies? i want the label to follow the line
  when i move it.
 
 There are several sheets that have such lines.  For instance, UML/Message
 or FS/Flow will do that.  Unfortunately, they are not very flexible in
 terms of line attributes.

I looked at this a while back with the idea of making a "child class" of
the line types for lines with text and then a "child" of _that_ class as
my FS/Flow object, but it wasn't clear to me how to derive an object without
copying a bunch of the code at that point. Now I see how, but I keep hearing
that there's going to be a move to the GTK inheritance mechanism and GObject
in the not-too-distant future, so I've held off. I guess the other reason
I've held off is that it seems like there should really only be one type of
line (instead of orthogonal, polygonal, bezier, arc, ...). The curve's
shape should be independent of the connections. That way, a lot more code
could be shared. For instance, you could add text to a line and have it work
no matter the shape of the line.

Is anyone else interested in working on that? If we were careful, we could even
make the same code used for lines work for the boxed shapes (they would just be
closed curves instead of open curves).

David