Re: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

2005-05-10 Thread Stephen Snow
Folks,

If you are paying more than $100 per year for web hosting, then you are
paying too much.  I volunteer with a little nonprofit that provides web
hosting to others. the hosting comes with access to a control panel where
you can do whatever you want. it is easy to learn and works.

This is a good little revenue stream for a small nonprofit organization. The
group I am connected with (The Charlotte Folk Society) makes roughly $1000 a
year by reselling web hosting to small nonprofits at low rates. The
aggregate provides them with the revenue, plus they have their own site
hosted for free. Engaging in reselling is easy to set up and manage. The
Folk Society does no advertising for clients and we have 10. We're looking
at adding some tiered services to lower the price even more to individual
organizations and microbusinesses.

The fact that the organization is unclear about its status is a big red
flag. That they charge so much so you can add pages... is ludicrous on its
face. $35 per month -- if THEY do all the heavy lifting MIGHT be acceptable.
But for YOU to do itno way.

My $0.02.

Steve Snow

 Stephen Snow, MA, National Certified Counselor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Where love stops, power
  www.commcure.com   begins, and violence
 704.569.0243   and terror.  -- CG Jung
--
GROW BY GIVING: VOLUNTEER
Artist-Blacksmith Assn. of N. America (www.abana.org)
Assn. For Community Networking (www.afcn.org)
   Charlotte Folk Society (www.folksociety.org)
Int'l Society for the Study of Dissociation (www.issd.org)
Int'l Society for Traumatic Stress Studies (www.istss.org)
 Si Kahn (www.sikahn.com)
  One Special Christmas (www.onespecialchristmas.org)
 American Counseling Association (www.counseling.org)
  N.C. Counseling Association (www.nccounseling.org)
===

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Gemelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
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I don't believe they are, as I cannot find them in Guidestar (which lists
all registered nonprofits.  It also seems like alot of money $35 just for
web hosting!

Tim Gemelli
Principal
{ www.eNonProfits.org }



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RE: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

2005-05-10 Thread Champ-Blackwell, Siobhan
Thanks to everyone who has responded to this request. You have confirmed
my initial feeling that this was not something I wanted to post on my
blog!
Siobhan

Siobhan Champ-Blackwell, MSLIS

Community Outreach Liaison

National Network of Libraries of Medicine - MidContinental Region

Creighton University Health Sciences Library

2500 California Plaza

Omaha, NE 68178

402-280-4156/800-338-7657

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://nnlm.gov/mcr/ (NN/LM MCR Web Site)

http://medstat.med.utah.edu/blogs/BHIC/ (Web Log)

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen
Snow
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:14 AM
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
Subject: Re: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

Folks,

If you are paying more than $100 per year for web hosting, then you are
paying too much.  I volunteer with a little nonprofit that provides web
hosting to others. the hosting comes with access to a control panel
where
you can do whatever you want. it is easy to learn and works.

This is a good little revenue stream for a small nonprofit organization.
The
group I am connected with (The Charlotte Folk Society) makes roughly
$1000 a
year by reselling web hosting to small nonprofits at low rates. The
aggregate provides them with the revenue, plus they have their own site
hosted for free. Engaging in reselling is easy to set up and manage. The
Folk Society does no advertising for clients and we have 10. We're
looking
at adding some tiered services to lower the price even more to
individual
organizations and microbusinesses.

The fact that the organization is unclear about its status is a big red
flag. That they charge so much so you can add pages... is ludicrous on
its
face. $35 per month -- if THEY do all the heavy lifting MIGHT be
acceptable.
But for YOU to do itno way.

My $0.02.

Steve Snow

 Stephen Snow, MA, National Certified Counselor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Where love stops, power
  www.commcure.com   begins, and violence
 704.569.0243   and terror.  -- CG Jung
--
GROW BY GIVING: VOLUNTEER
Artist-Blacksmith Assn. of N. America (www.abana.org)
Assn. For Community Networking (www.afcn.org)
   Charlotte Folk Society (www.folksociety.org)
Int'l Society for the Study of Dissociation (www.issd.org)
Int'l Society for Traumatic Stress Studies (www.istss.org)
 Si Kahn (www.sikahn.com)
  One Special Christmas (www.onespecialchristmas.org)
 American Counseling Association (www.counseling.org)
  N.C. Counseling Association (www.nccounseling.org)
===

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Gemelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [DDN] Charity Advantage?


I don't believe they are, as I cannot find them in Guidestar (which
lists
all registered nonprofits.  It also seems like alot of money $35 just
for
web hosting!

Tim Gemelli
Principal
{ www.eNonProfits.org }



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Re: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

2005-05-10 Thread Fred Mindlin
I use a web hosting  company, which I've had for 5 years, which charges 
$50/YEAR, with a $25 startup fee, and offers more email accounts, more 
storage, and equivalent support to this $35/mo+69 startup fee offer...

Doesn't sound like a deal...
Regards, Fred
--
Fred Mindlin, Project Leader
PVUSD Technology  Curriculum Integration
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
web:http://www.pvusd.net/tcip/
(831)750-5311 [cell] (831)728-6947 [fax]
Intelligence is knowing what to do when you don't know what to do.
--John Holt
On May 9, 2005, at 11:28 AM, Tim Gemelli wrote:
I don't believe they are, as I cannot find them in Guidestar (which 
lists all registered nonprofits.  It also seems like alot of money $35 
just for web hosting!

Tim Gemelli
Principal
{ www.eNonProfits.org }
- Original Message -
From: Terry Mar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'The Digital Divide Network discussion group' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: [DDN] Charity Advantage?


Does anyone out there know if Charity Advantage is a nonprofit or a 
For
profit organization?

There is nothing on their website that clearly states what they 
really are.
They say some pretty ambiguous things, like:

We want to thank the following foundations for their continued 
support of
nonprofits:
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
David and Lucile Packard Foundation

But they really don't say that they received grants from these 
foundations.

They also say:
NP Online Action would not be possible without the following 
companies:
Cisco, MicroSoft, Dell, Yhaoo

But again they do not specifically say that they received grants or 
just
purchased/use this technology.

The only thing that is clearly spelled out is the following:
Commitment by Recipient: One-time program administration fee of $59. 
And,
Monthly budget of $35 for website hosting and maintenance. Maintenance
enables your organization to add new web pages and update content on
existing pages any time.

Any comments?
Terry
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Champ-Blackwell, Siobhan
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:44 AM
To: DIGITALDIVIDE (Digital Divide)
Subject: [DDN] Charity Advantage?
Has anyone heard of Charity Advantage? 
http://www.charityadvantage.com/ They
are now accepting proposals for tchonology and service program to 
improve
technology and build networks within US based non-profit agencies.
Siobhan

Siobhan Champ-Blackwell, MSLIS
Community Outreach Liaison
National Network of Libraries of Medicine - MidContinental Region 
Creighton
University Health Sciences Library 2500 California Plaza Omaha, NE 
68178
402-280-4156/800-338-7657
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nnlm.gov/mcr/ (NN/LM MCR Web Site)
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http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/siobhanchamp-blackwell (Digital 
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RE: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

2005-05-09 Thread Harold Smith
I checked on line for California Fundraising Trusts and more
specifically for non profit organizations based on the ZIP code for
Charity Advantage in Fallbrook California.  Both searches resulted in
zero hits for Charity Advantage, Inc.  I suspect they are a for profit
organization dealing with non profits through the Internet and doing so
at reduced rates.  Anyone else know more?  I did receive an email from
one of their officers earlier since we do basically the same line of
services at a state-wide level and I wrote to them to offer to
collaborate.

Harold Smith, Director
CyberSkills/Vermont

-Original Message-
From: Terry Mar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:00 AM
To: 'The Digital Divide Network discussion group'
Subject: RE: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

Does anyone out there know if Charity Advantage is a nonprofit or a For
profit organization?

There is nothing on their website that clearly states what they really
are.
They say some pretty ambiguous things, like:

We want to thank the following foundations for their continued support
of
nonprofits:
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
David and Lucile Packard Foundation

But they really don't say that they received grants from these
foundations.

They also say: 

NP Online Action would not be possible without the following companies:
Cisco, MicroSoft, Dell, Yhaoo

But again they do not specifically say that they received grants or just
purchased/use this technology.

The only thing that is clearly spelled out is the following:

Commitment by Recipient: One-time program administration fee of $59.
And,
Monthly budget of $35 for website hosting and maintenance. Maintenance
enables your organization to add new web pages and update content on
existing pages any time.

Any comments?

Terry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Champ-Blackwell, Siobhan
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:44 AM
To: DIGITALDIVIDE (Digital Divide)
Subject: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

Has anyone heard of Charity Advantage? http://www.charityadvantage.com/
They
are now accepting proposals for tchonology and service program to
improve
technology and build networks within US based non-profit agencies.
Siobhan 

Siobhan Champ-Blackwell, MSLIS
Community Outreach Liaison
National Network of Libraries of Medicine - MidContinental Region
Creighton
University Health Sciences Library 2500 California Plaza Omaha, NE 68178
402-280-4156/800-338-7657
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nnlm.gov/mcr/ (NN/LM MCR Web Site)
http://medstat.med.utah.edu/blogs/BHIC/ (Web Log)
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Re: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

2005-05-09 Thread Tim Gemelli
I don't believe they are, as I cannot find them in Guidestar (which lists all 
registered nonprofits.  It also seems like alot of money $35 just for web 
hosting!

Tim Gemelli
Principal
{ www.eNonProfits.org } 


- Original Message - 
From: Terry Mar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'The Digital Divide Network discussion group' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: [DDN] Charity Advantage?


 Does anyone out there know if Charity Advantage is a nonprofit or a For
 profit organization?
 
 There is nothing on their website that clearly states what they really are.
 They say some pretty ambiguous things, like:
 
 We want to thank the following foundations for their continued support of
 nonprofits:
 Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
 Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
 David and Lucile Packard Foundation
 
 But they really don't say that they received grants from these foundations.
 
 They also say: 
 
 NP Online Action would not be possible without the following companies:
 Cisco, MicroSoft, Dell, Yhaoo
 
 But again they do not specifically say that they received grants or just
 purchased/use this technology.
 
 The only thing that is clearly spelled out is the following:
 
 Commitment by Recipient: One-time program administration fee of $59. And,
 Monthly budget of $35 for website hosting and maintenance. Maintenance
 enables your organization to add new web pages and update content on
 existing pages any time.
 
 Any comments?
 
 Terry
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Champ-Blackwell, Siobhan
 Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:44 AM
 To: DIGITALDIVIDE (Digital Divide)
 Subject: [DDN] Charity Advantage?
 
 Has anyone heard of Charity Advantage? http://www.charityadvantage.com/ They
 are now accepting proposals for tchonology and service program to improve
 technology and build networks within US based non-profit agencies.
 Siobhan 
 
 Siobhan Champ-Blackwell, MSLIS
 Community Outreach Liaison
 National Network of Libraries of Medicine - MidContinental Region Creighton
 University Health Sciences Library 2500 California Plaza Omaha, NE 68178
 402-280-4156/800-338-7657
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://nnlm.gov/mcr/ (NN/LM MCR Web Site)
 http://medstat.med.utah.edu/blogs/BHIC/ (Web Log)
 http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/siobhanchamp-blackwell (Digital Divide
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RE: [DDN] Charity Advantage? Net Cruiser Technologies Inc.

2005-05-09 Thread K Wong \(UVic\)
Their domain is registered to Net Cruiser Technologies Inc. out of PA.

A search on Google turned up some government sites listing their program
and links to out of date Urls, a few of which are archived.

About Net Cruiser Technologies, Inc.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030306224741/http://www.charityadvantage.co
m/nctcompany.htm
http://tinyurl.com/bp86u

$35/mo would get you some very nice shared hosting these days, and this
amount would be considered pretty expensive by today's standards. You
are right though, it does smell kind of fishy. Corporate info follows.

Kelvin

---
PA - Dept of State
http://www.dos.state.pa.us/corps/site/default.asp

Entity Type PENNSYLVANIA BUSINESS CORPORATION
Entity Name NET CRUISER TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
Entity No.  2809123
Filing Date 04/02/1998  Letter of Consent   No
Address 127 FENNERTON RD
PAOLIPennsylvania   USA  19301
County  Chester JurisdictionPA
Purpose BROAD
Limited Authority   No  

Corporate Officers
Updated Date04/02/1998
President   DAVID EPSTEIN
Secretary   -
Treasurer   -
Vice-President  -

Instrument History
Doc TypeMicrofilm#  Micro# StartMicro# End  Filing
DateComments
ARTICLES OF AMENDMENT-BUSINESS  218 616 617
03/03/2000  ADR NCFR: SAMSON MARKETING INC
ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION-BUSINESS  9825649 649
04/02/1998  -

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Mar
Sent: May 9, 2005 7:00 AM
To: 'The Digital Divide Network discussion group'
Subject: RE: [DDN] Charity Advantage?


Does anyone out there know if Charity Advantage is a nonprofit or a For
profit organization?

They also say: 

NP Online Action would not be possible without the following companies:
Cisco, MicroSoft, Dell, Yhaoo

But again they do not specifically say that they received grants or just
purchased/use this technology.

The only thing that is clearly spelled out is the following:

Commitment by Recipient: One-time program administration fee of $59.
And, Monthly budget of $35 for website hosting and maintenance.
Maintenance enables your organization to add new web pages and update
content on existing pages any time.

Any comments?

Terry


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RE: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

2005-05-09 Thread Terry Mar
Does anyone out there know if Charity Advantage is a nonprofit or a For
profit organization?

There is nothing on their website that clearly states what they really are.
They say some pretty ambiguous things, like:

We want to thank the following foundations for their continued support of
nonprofits:
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
David and Lucile Packard Foundation

But they really don't say that they received grants from these foundations.

They also say: 

NP Online Action would not be possible without the following companies:
Cisco, MicroSoft, Dell, Yhaoo

But again they do not specifically say that they received grants or just
purchased/use this technology.

The only thing that is clearly spelled out is the following:

Commitment by Recipient: One-time program administration fee of $59. And,
Monthly budget of $35 for website hosting and maintenance. Maintenance
enables your organization to add new web pages and update content on
existing pages any time.

Any comments?

Terry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Champ-Blackwell, Siobhan
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:44 AM
To: DIGITALDIVIDE (Digital Divide)
Subject: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

Has anyone heard of Charity Advantage? http://www.charityadvantage.com/ They
are now accepting proposals for tchonology and service program to improve
technology and build networks within US based non-profit agencies.
Siobhan 

Siobhan Champ-Blackwell, MSLIS
Community Outreach Liaison
National Network of Libraries of Medicine - MidContinental Region Creighton
University Health Sciences Library 2500 California Plaza Omaha, NE 68178
402-280-4156/800-338-7657
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nnlm.gov/mcr/ (NN/LM MCR Web Site)
http://medstat.med.utah.edu/blogs/BHIC/ (Web Log)
http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/siobhanchamp-blackwell (Digital Divide
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Re: [DDN] Charity Advantage?

2005-05-09 Thread Laura and lloyd
I had the same reservations. Full disclosure would be appreciated.
Laura Waterman Wittstock
Minneapolis, MN USA
On Monday, May 9, 2005, at 09:00  AM, Terry Mar wrote:
Does anyone out there know if Charity Advantage is a nonprofit or a 
For
profit organization?

There is nothing on their website that clearly states what they really 
are.
They say some pretty ambiguous things, like:

We want to thank the following foundations for their continued 
support of
nonprofits:
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
David and Lucile Packard Foundation

But they really don't say that they received grants from these 
foundations.

They also say:
NP Online Action would not be possible without the following 
companies:
Cisco, MicroSoft, Dell, Yhaoo

But again they do not specifically say that they received grants or 
just
purchased/use this technology.

The only thing that is clearly spelled out is the following:
Commitment by Recipient: One-time program administration fee of $59. 
And,
Monthly budget of $35 for website hosting and maintenance. Maintenance
enables your organization to add new web pages and update content on
existing pages any time.

Any comments?
Terry
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Champ-Blackwell, Siobhan
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:44 AM
To: DIGITALDIVIDE (Digital Divide)
Subject: [DDN] Charity Advantage?
Has anyone heard of Charity Advantage? 
http://www.charityadvantage.com/ They
are now accepting proposals for tchonology and service program to 
improve
technology and build networks within US based non-profit agencies.
Siobhan

Siobhan Champ-Blackwell, MSLIS
Community Outreach Liaison
National Network of Libraries of Medicine - MidContinental Region 
Creighton
University Health Sciences Library 2500 California Plaza Omaha, NE 
68178
402-280-4156/800-338-7657
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nnlm.gov/mcr/ (NN/LM MCR Web Site)
http://medstat.med.utah.edu/blogs/BHIC/ (Web Log)
http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/siobhanchamp-blackwell (Digital 
Divide
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612-387-4915
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