RE: [DDN] Virtual conferences

[John Hibbs]

I'm exceptionally proud that our teeny, weeny non-profit has held 
eight Global Learn Day events, one each year since 1996. GLD, a non 
stop 24 hour event, opens in the South Pacific and "travels" west to 
Hawaii, "the long way around". We make "stops" in eight major regions 
where we feature outstanding people doing highly innovative work, 
mostly in distance education, but also in health training, 
e-democracy and social justice. We use everything but two tin cans 
tied to a string, including community radio, one of the most ignored 
elements in the communication network, and one of the most important. 
(We also use ham radio to bring in voices from Antarctica and other 
truly remote areas.)


But, this year, we will NOT hold Global Learn Day...(taking a year 
off is good for the soul).


HOWEVER, we are watching -- and will participate -- with Webheads, 
the most innovative, far reaching, truly global "enterprise" in the 
whole of the English language training world. They are doing a much, 
much, much better job organizing for their (global) event than we 
ever did for Global Learn Day, so we are learning a LOT.


I encourage subscribers here to plan on attending this exceptional 
conference. No, belay, that...I believe many DDN subscribers might 
wish to submit proposals, particularly about how to improve virtual 
conferences and increase impact. The Webheads conference is not just 
about verbs and pronouns; in fact what it is really about, I say, is 
connecting those doing innovative work of a kind likely to make for a 
safer, saner planet.


HERE IS WHERE YOU SHOULD LOOK

WiAOC 2005: Webheads in Action Online Convergence
 Bridges across Cyberspace

Friday and Saturday, November 18 - 19, 2005
and Convergence rap-up Sunday November 20

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John Hibbs
http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs

At 11:00 AM -0400 9/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

John, I hear you and agree with you.  Visit
http://www.tutormentorconference.bigstep.com to see
how my small, understaffed non profit is trying to connect the face to face
tutor/mentor conference
we hold in Chicago each November and May with others via a variety of
econference concepts. 
We've held 3 econferences since May 2004.


Dan Bassill
Tutor/Mentor Connection
http://tutormentor.blogspot.com



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Re: [DDN] Virtual conferences

[Brenda Kempster]

The ICT Literacy Portal www.ictliteracy.info has been hosting ICT literacy 
virtual conferences and meetings in collaboration with our partner Learning 
Times for the past two and a half years.  Many of you and your organizations 
have participated.  The response to this type of meeting/conference has been 
most positive, and the technology is neither complicated nor expensive to use. 
However, it takes time and patience for the "digital immigrants" to become 
comfortable in this virtual conferencing environment.

Many participants from developing countries regularly participate using even 
dial up access and basic technology.  Most recently, we held a virtual 
conference over 3 days from Costa Rica for the EDC Power Users of ICT (in 
parallel with the physical conference) with registrants participating from 
around the world - including teams of kids from many countries who had no 
problem with the virtual venue!  It enabled many more researchers and educators 
and students to participate in the conference proceedings - without costs for 
travel, hotel, etc.  Also, we were able to get some great guest speakers who 
would have been otherwise unable to participate due to time and distance 
constraints. 

Learning Times and Kempster Group advocate using the tools of ICT to 
communicate the message, and invite you and your groups to join our ICT 
Literacy community site and feel free to use the ICT Meeting room for your 
discussions www.ictliteracy.info.  Feel free to contact us if you want more 
information, or even would like us to set up a live demo or special topic 
meeting with you to help others understand and become familiar with the virtual 
conferencing capability.

Regards,
Brenda

Brenda Kempster
President
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fax:   760 674- 8937
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  - Original Message - 
  From: John Hibbs 
  To: The Digital Divide Network discussiongroup 
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 7:51 AM
  Subject: [DDN] Virtual conferences


  At 3:26 PM -0500 9/15/05, Taran Rampersad wrote:
  >John Hibbs wrote:
  >Why is an ICT conference not held virtually? Why do I have to travel
  >  to Washington to participate? or listen? or view? What century do we
  >  live in?

  15 Sep 2005 15:26:11 -0500 Taran Rampersad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >So that's where I left my drum! :-) Maybe it's just not easy enough 
  >for people to organize a conference virtually yet... or maybe they 
  >don't know how easy it is?


  Subscribers to the leading listserv in the distance education world 
  have heard me beat this drum for almost a decade. The largest, most 
  prestigious (?) distance ed conferences have very little virtual 
  component; yet the leaders talk the talk about the wonders of their 
  deliveries. My wee voice has been a lonely one.

  Perhaps the DDN should take up one more cudgel  -- that it should 
  beat up on those who hold large physical conferences advocating ICT; 
  but are unwilling to offer same virtually? If we at the "leading 
  edge" don't walk the walk -- who will?
  -- 
  John W. Hibbs
  http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs

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RE: [DDN] Virtual conferences

[Ronda Evans]

RE: Virtual Conferences,Keeping Track of Technology Accomplishments On Line, 
and funding for Homeless. 


In 1998-99 MIT but together youth from 36 countries with 16 different languages 
to talk about World Problems, they called it the Junior Summit.  Please take a 
look at the success of this program, which is still producing a worldwide youth 
generated magazine at http://www.tcfn.org/jrsummit/RoadTest.htm.


Nickole Evans participated in the Junior Summit in 1998 and realized that to be 
heard and remembered she needed to keep a log of her volunteer efforts and 
work. See www.y2kyouth.org for her activities, including "Building a Chain of 
Hope" for the Katrina Victims. 


Nickole Evans is the daughter of the founders and co-mangers of the RECA 
(Realizing Every Community Asset) Foundation that has been "Bridging the 
Digital Divide" since 1992 on a shoe string in southeast Washington State. 


What the Katrina Victims need now is a computer and Internet connection in 
their homes so they can keep in touch with others. 
What we all need to evaluate in our communities is how to get computers and 
Internet access to the poor of our community.  


There has been some funds coming into the communities under the "Homeless" 
catagory.   These funds can be used to obtain computers and Internet access for 
the Katrina Victims and for Homeless shelters.  


Together we can make a difference.


Ronda Evans 

RECA Foundation

Kennewick, WA 99336

www.tcfn.org - Connecting people to technology

www.4people.org - Connecting people to resources

Calendars.tcfn.org - Connecting people to activities

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Re: [DDN] Virtual conferences

[Dave Pentecost]

Just an aside to this discussion, which is interesting and to the
point of digital divide and digital elite issues:

Many people considering digital divide issues are also concerned with
energy and sustainability. Is airline travel, in which each individual
is responsible for energy consumption and greenhouse gas emissions
equivalent to a year's worth of driving, compatible with this?

(clearly the amount of energy required is dependent on distances
traveled, but you get my point)

Best
Dave 

On 9/17/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John is absolutely on target.
> 
> The original argument in the development community was bandwidth and the
> exclusion of those who couldn't participate- but even fewer can participate
> in a f-t-f except those who are funded to do ict4d.
> 
> Taran is on target too. Actually, there are many virtual conferences that
> have been arranged using a variety of vehicles and in all sectors.
> 
> Could it be that it is the digital immigrants who control what should be
> run by digital natives using a variety of excuses to avoid loss of control?
> 
> thoughts?
> 
> tom abeles
> 
> Original Message:
> -
> From: John Hibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 07:51:01 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [DDN] Virtual conferences
> 
> 
> At 3:26 PM -0500 9/15/05, Taran Rampersad wrote:
> >John Hibbs wrote:
> >Why is an ICT conference not held virtually? Why do I have to travel
> >  to Washington to participate? or listen? or view? What century do we
> >  live in?
> 
> 15 Sep 2005 15:26:11 -0500 Taran Rampersad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >So that's where I left my drum! :-) Maybe it's just not easy enough
> >for people to organize a conference virtually yet... or maybe they
> >don't know how easy it is?
> 
> 
> Subscribers to the leading listserv in the distance education world
> have heard me beat this drum for almost a decade. The largest, most
> prestigious (?) distance ed conferences have very little virtual
> component; yet the leaders talk the talk about the wonders of their
> deliveries. My wee voice has been a lonely one.
> 
> Perhaps the DDN should take up one more cudgel  -- that it should
> beat up on those who hold large physical conferences advocating ICT;
> but are unwilling to offer same virtually? If we at the "leading
> edge" don't walk the walk -- who will?
> --
> John W. Hibbs
> http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs
> 
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RE: [DDN] Virtual conferences

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

John is absolutely on target.

The original argument in the development community was bandwidth and the
exclusion of those who couldn't participate- but even fewer can participate
in a f-t-f except those who are funded to do ict4d.

Taran is on target too. Actually, there are many virtual conferences that
have been arranged using a variety of vehicles and in all sectors.

Could it be that it is the digital immigrants who control what should be
run by digital natives using a variety of excuses to avoid loss of control?

thoughts?

tom abeles

Original Message:
-
From: John Hibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 07:51:01 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [DDN] Virtual conferences


At 3:26 PM -0500 9/15/05, Taran Rampersad wrote:
>John Hibbs wrote:
>Why is an ICT conference not held virtually? Why do I have to travel
>  to Washington to participate? or listen? or view? What century do we
>  live in?

15 Sep 2005 15:26:11 -0500 Taran Rampersad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>So that's where I left my drum! :-) Maybe it's just not easy enough 
>for people to organize a conference virtually yet... or maybe they 
>don't know how easy it is?


Subscribers to the leading listserv in the distance education world 
have heard me beat this drum for almost a decade. The largest, most 
prestigious (?) distance ed conferences have very little virtual 
component; yet the leaders talk the talk about the wonders of their 
deliveries. My wee voice has been a lonely one.

Perhaps the DDN should take up one more cudgel  -- that it should 
beat up on those who hold large physical conferences advocating ICT; 
but are unwilling to offer same virtually? If we at the "leading 
edge" don't walk the walk -- who will?
-- 
John W. Hibbs
http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs

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RE: [DDN] Virtual conferences

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

John, I hear you and agree with you.  Visit
http://www.tutormentorconference.bigstep.com to see 
how my small, understaffed non profit is trying to connect the face to face
tutor/mentor conference 
we hold in Chicago each November and May with others via a variety of
econference concepts.  
We've held 3 econferences since May 2004.

Dan Bassill
Tutor/Mentor Connection
http://tutormentor.blogspot.com

Original Message:
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From: John Hibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 07:51:01 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [DDN] Virtual conferences


At 3:26 PM -0500 9/15/05, Taran Rampersad wrote:
>John Hibbs wrote:
>Why is an ICT conference not held virtually? Why do I have to travel
>  to Washington to participate? or listen? or view? What century do we
>  live in?

15 Sep 2005 15:26:11 -0500 Taran Rampersad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>So that's where I left my drum! :-) Maybe it's just not easy enough 
>for people to organize a conference virtually yet... or maybe they 
>don't know how easy it is?


Subscribers to the leading listserv in the distance education world 
have heard me beat this drum for almost a decade. The largest, most 
prestigious (?) distance ed conferences have very little virtual 
component; yet the leaders talk the talk about the wonders of their 
deliveries. My wee voice has been a lonely one.

Perhaps the DDN should take up one more cudgel  -- that it should 
beat up on those who hold large physical conferences advocating ICT; 
but are unwilling to offer same virtually? If we at the "leading 
edge" don't walk the walk -- who will?
-- 
John W. Hibbs
http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs

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Re: [DDN] Virtual conferences

[Laura Czerniewicz]

In response to John Gibbs comment about virtual conference members of this list
might be interested in our experiences of hosting e/merge 2004, an online
conference about educational technology in Southern Africa. We had 163
participants from 7 southern Africa countries, as well as some key people from
further afield.

Our one key note speaker  presented a real-time video-streamed opening keynote
address to a roomful of people at the conference opening physically located in
Cape Town (South Africa), while national and international online participants
engaged in text-based dialogue with both him and the participants physically
present!

Although there are savings in many ways, making such a conference a success is
also a lot of work. We have written up our experiences, including in the 
editorial to the special issue of the International Journal of Education and
Development using ICTs which recently published 10 of the papers originally
presented online.

Our experiences were so positive that we will be running e/merge 2006 next year!

Laura


Quoting John Hibbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> At 3:26 PM -0500 9/15/05, Taran Rampersad wrote:
> >John Hibbs wrote:
> >Why is an ICT conference not held virtually? Why do I have to travel
> >  to Washington to participate? or listen? or view? What century do we
> >  live in?
>
> 15 Sep 2005 15:26:11 -0500 Taran Rampersad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >So that's where I left my drum! :-) Maybe it's just not easy enough
> >for people to organize a conference virtually yet... or maybe they
> >don't know how easy it is?
>
>
> Subscribers to the leading listserv in the distance education world
> have heard me beat this drum for almost a decade. The largest, most
> prestigious (?) distance ed conferences have very little virtual
> component; yet the leaders talk the talk about the wonders of their
> deliveries. My wee voice has been a lonely one.
>
> Perhaps the DDN should take up one more cudgel  -- that it should
> beat up on those who hold large physical conferences advocating ICT;
> but are unwilling to offer same virtually? If we at the "leading
> edge" don't walk the walk -- who will?
> --
> John W. Hibbs
> http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs
>
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Re: [DDN] Virtual conferences

[Cindy Lemcke-Hoong]

John and All,

In 1990, about 14 years ago, I was researching for a
paper on video-conferencing. To my surprised, the
problem why video-conferencing was not popular, then,
had nothing to do with the technology, nor the
services provided by the phone companies etc. (It was
still rather expensive then and the technologies were
not really that great, but compared to paying for
hotels, flights etc. for participants naturally the
savings using video-conferencing won hands-down). Some
of the reasons were: it is much more fun to meet
face-to-face, in many cases travelling off-site is
considered perk for many people, meeting face-to-face
network better etc. etc. 

Since then, I have been observing and pondering over
this issue all these years and of course from
video-conferencing my interest shifted to internet and
elearning. 

Here are some of my own reasonings. Aside from perk
for participants, perhaps we should also look at
businesses such as hotels, air-lines, car-rentals,
catering, event organizers etc. These businesses
depend and encourage people to travel. If we all go
virtual, it is not just the matter of these businesses
are losing money, but we are also looking at people
losing jobs. And most of the employees of this
business sector are low-skills. Which means if they
lose thier job it is so much harder for them to find
another job because they might be 'skill-out' from the
faster and faster moving world that demand higher and
higher digital skills. Therefore it is a real
balancing act (I sure hope governments are paying
attention and looking into all these factors). 

The problem with our group (DDN) is, most of us are
highly educated, have good jobs, good income, well
equipped or provided with all the digital gadgets that
enabled us to be 'virtual'. But are we the minority or
the majority? As Siobhan just posted: "Stephens
estimates that 70 percent of Navajo Nation residents
are still
without phone service, down from 78 percent before
cell service."
http://www.gallupindependent.com/2005/sept/091505onsat.html
". 

Today I also found an interesting article from The
Economist Sept 17-23rd, 2005 (I have not had the
chance to read it yet) title "How the Internet killed
the phone business". I worked for US long distance
compay and telco manufacturers from 1992-2002 and
major in telco mgmt., without having to read the
article I think I know most of the stories. 

So, internet killed telephone business, I am one of
the many thousands who lost our well paid jobs. I am
sure we also see jobs going away from post-offices,
business cards, birthday cards, printing etc. etc. The
world is changing, is evolving and there is no way we
could stop it from happening. BUT, if we so wish to
push the concepts of DDN, perhaps we should also pay
attention to other factors that are happening in our
society/world. If our intention is to help those that
are less advantage, perhaps we should look at it in a
much more complete picture and avoid looking at just a
fragmented segment. 

Just some of my sketchy thoughts.  

Cindy

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