Re: A better way to manage discussions?

2012-03-06 Thread Dejan Lekic
Sandeep Datta wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 
 I just wanted to say I am pretty impressed with the revamped D
 forums. TBH I tried to join in on the conversion many times
 before the change but the ancient NNTP based approach was just
 not palatable enough. But needless to say we have come a long way
 from that.
 
 Having said that I have a question for the veterans...have you at
 any point considered using a publicly hosted discussion forum
 (like reddit)?
 
 I miss the ability to edit and monitor my posts (without spamming
 my inbox). Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy
 sometimes too (for example if you did not like this post you
 could downvote it to oblivion).
 
 Regards,
 Sandeep Datta.

Sandeep, FYI, it is still NNTP behind the forum. It is not an ancient 
protocol, it is still perfectly suitable for what it was made for... HTTP is 
still an ancient protocol, yet you still use it... We still use IRC and we 
like it. Etc... I guess your problem lies in the client. Yes, the old, web-
based news client was awful. New one is amazing.


Re: A better way to manage discussions?

2012-03-05 Thread Gour
On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 09:04:33 -0800
H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:

 But that's just me... most people don't agree with that. :-)

Do they agree with you or not, the fact is that forum software cannot
approach functionality of email/nntp.


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A better way to manage discussions?

2012-03-04 Thread Sandeep Datta

Hi Guys,

I just wanted to say I am pretty impressed with the revamped D 
forums. TBH I tried to join in on the conversion many times 
before the change but the ancient NNTP based approach was just 
not palatable enough. But needless to say we have come a long way 
from that.


Having said that I have a question for the veterans...have you at 
any point considered using a publicly hosted discussion forum 
(like reddit)?


I miss the ability to edit and monitor my posts (without spamming 
my inbox). Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy 
sometimes too (for example if you did not like this post you 
could downvote it to oblivion).


Regards,
Sandeep Datta.


Re: A better way to manage discussions?

2012-03-04 Thread so

Hello!

On Sunday, 4 March 2012 at 08:21:13 UTC, Sandeep Datta wrote:

Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy 
sometimes too (for example if you did not like this post you 
could downvote it to oblivion).


All sounds fine except this, i hate this kind of stuff. They open 
doors for all kind of abuses, popularity contests, factions in 
community and similar distasteful things.






Re: A better way to manage discussions?

2012-03-04 Thread James Miller
On 4 March 2012 22:20, so s...@so.so wrote:
 Hello!


 On Sunday, 4 March 2012 at 08:21:13 UTC, Sandeep Datta wrote:

 Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy sometimes too (for
 example if you did not like this post you could downvote it to oblivion).


 All sounds fine except this, i hate this kind of stuff. They open doors for
 all kind of abuses, popularity contests, factions in community and similar
 distasteful things.




Email Filters! If you are not using an email client that allows you to
filter mailing list emails out of your inbox and into folders, you
need to be using a better email client...

--
James Miller


Re: A better way to manage discussions?

2012-03-04 Thread Mars

On Sunday, 4 March 2012 at 09:45:44 UTC, James Miller wrote:

On 4 March 2012 22:20, so s...@so.so wrote:

Hello!


On Sunday, 4 March 2012 at 08:21:13 UTC, Sandeep Datta wrote:

Also the upvote and downvote buttons can come in handy 
sometimes too (for
example if you did not like this post you could downvote it 
to oblivion).



All sounds fine except this, i hate this kind of stuff. They 
open doors for
all kind of abuses, popularity contests, factions in community 
and similar

distasteful things.





Email Filters! If you are not using an email client that allows 
you to
filter mailing list emails out of your inbox and into folders, 
you

need to be using a better email client...

--
James Miller


Or maybe we just need a real forum... I was actually thinking 
about posting something similar several times already, especially 
before this new official front end. For people who never used 
newsgroups etc, it feels extremely awkward at first. And if 
you're used to normal, modern board softwares, this is like a 
small down grade. You get used to it of course, but I'm sure this 
drove people away in the past.

Although it's much better now.

Mars


Re: A better way to manage discussions?

2012-03-04 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Mars -@-.- wrote in message news:ywpzampglhwcpimze...@forum.dlang.org...

For people who never used newsgroups etc, it feels extremely awkward at 
first. And if you're used to normal, modern board softwares, this is like a 
small down grade. You get used to it of course, but I'm sure this drove 
people away in the past.

I not onyl got used to it (NNTP), but I've cone to prefer it. (FWIW, YMMV, 
OMGBBQWTF) 




Re: A better way to manage discussions?

2012-03-04 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 11:07:43AM +0100, Mars wrote:
[[...]
 Or maybe we just need a real forum... I was actually thinking about
 posting something similar several times already, especially before
 this new official front end. For people who never used newsgroups
 etc, it feels extremely awkward at first. And if you're used to
 normal, modern board softwares, this is like a small down grade. You
 get used to it of course, but I'm sure this drove people away in the
 past.
 Although it's much better now.
[...]

I personally just prefer email. I use a threading mailer, and it allows
me to sort through threads, keep those I'm interested in, prune those
I'm not interested in, etc., *much* better than any forum software I've
ever seen. The thing about discussions is that they tend to bifurcate
easily, something that current forum software just can't handle in a
nice way without breaking the branching structure somehow.

Plus, with email I get to use text-only, which is a big plus for me
because it focuses on the meat of the discussion instead of distracting
with pretty graphics. And I can stay away from that resource hog called
the browser for yet one more thing. But that's just me... most people
don't agree with that. :-)


T

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