Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-11 Thread Alix Pexton

On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable, and
even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!


"Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not 
actually a old English word :)  A more correct alternative would be 
"Aye" (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is still 
used for some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go 
for lunch). I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)


A...


Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-11 Thread Nick Sabalausky
"Alix Pexton"  wrote in message 
news:isvae3$2o51$1...@digitalmars.com...
> On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>> We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable, and
>> even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!
>
> "Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not 
> actually a old English word :)  A more correct alternative would be "Aye" 
> (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is still used for 
> some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go for lunch). 
> I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)
>

Dost thou, verily?




Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-11 Thread Alix Pexton

On 11/06/2011 11:56, Nick Sabalausky wrote:

"Alix Pexton"  wrote in message
news:isvae3$2o51$1...@digitalmars.com...

On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable, and
even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!


"Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not
actually a old English word :)  A more correct alternative would be "Aye"
(pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is still used for
some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go for lunch).
I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)



Dost thou, verily?




Aye!

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Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-11 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
On 6/11/11, Alix Pexton  wrote:
> On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>> We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable, and
>> even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!
>
> "Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not
> actually a old English word :)  A more correct alternative would be
> "Aye" (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is still
> used for some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go
> for lunch). I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)
>
> A...
>

Oh damn, yay is what teenage girls would say, not old Englishmen. My
bad, it really is "Aye". :p


Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-11 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:04:47 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic  
 wrote:



On 6/11/11, Alix Pexton  wrote:

On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable, and
even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!


"Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not
actually a old English word :)  A more correct alternative would be
"Aye" (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is still
used for some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go
for lunch). I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)

A...



Oh damn, yay is what teenage girls would say, not old Englishmen. My
bad, it really is "Aye". :p


You were phonetically right :)  It's yea or nay.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/yea-or-nay

My son's most recent birthday (3 years old) was a farm-themed birthday,  
and we asked people to RSVP yay or neigh :P


So I guess there's all kinds of kooky fun you can have with flags...

-Steve


Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-12 Thread Alix Pexton

On 12/06/2011 02:40, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:04:47 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic
 wrote:


On 6/11/11, Alix Pexton  wrote:

On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable, and
even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!


"Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not
actually a old English word :) A more correct alternative would be
"Aye" (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is still
used for some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go
for lunch). I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)

A...



Oh damn, yay is what teenage girls would say, not old Englishmen. My
bad, it really is "Aye". :p


You were phonetically right :) It's yea or nay.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/yea-or-nay

My son's most recent birthday (3 years old) was a farm-themed birthday,
and we asked people to RSVP yay or neigh :P

So I guess there's all kinds of kooky fun you can have with flags...

-Steve


Nope, its definitely Aye when used for voting, (at least it is round 
here) as in "all those in favour, say aye", "ayes to the right" and "the 
ayes have it". Maybe southerners say this "yea" word of which you speak, 
we don't hold with their strange customs in these parts ^^


A...


Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-12 Thread Steven Schveighoffer
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:36:55 -0400, Alix Pexton  
 wrote:



On 12/06/2011 02:40, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:04:47 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic
 wrote:


On 6/11/11, Alix Pexton  wrote:

On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable,  
and

even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!


"Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not
actually a old English word :) A more correct alternative would be
"Aye" (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is  
still

used for some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go
for lunch). I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)

A...



Oh damn, yay is what teenage girls would say, not old Englishmen. My
bad, it really is "Aye". :p


You were phonetically right :) It's yea or nay.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/yea-or-nay

My son's most recent birthday (3 years old) was a farm-themed birthday,
and we asked people to RSVP yay or neigh :P

So I guess there's all kinds of kooky fun you can have with flags...

-Steve


Nope, its definitely Aye when used for voting, (at least it is round  
here) as in "all those in favour, say aye", "ayes to the right" and "the  
ayes have it". Maybe southerners say this "yea" word of which you speak,  
we don't hold with their strange customs in these parts ^^


I don't deny that aye is used frequently for voting.  All I was saying is,  
the correct expression is yea or nay, not yay or nay.  Andrej thought it  
was actually aye or nay, which I've never heard as an expression.


I'm not sure it's used anymore, but it's definitely an expression that was  
used for voting (see my dictionary reference).


-Steve


Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-12 Thread Andrej Mitrovic
TBH I've only ever heard it used in Ali G Indahouse, so what do I know.. :p


Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-12 Thread Alix Pexton

On 12/06/2011 16:11, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:36:55 -0400, Alix Pexton
 wrote:


On 12/06/2011 02:40, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:04:47 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic
 wrote:


On 6/11/11, Alix Pexton  wrote:

On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable,
and
even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!


"Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not
actually a old English word :) A more correct alternative would be
"Aye" (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is
still
used for some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go
for lunch). I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)

A...



Oh damn, yay is what teenage girls would say, not old Englishmen. My
bad, it really is "Aye". :p


You were phonetically right :) It's yea or nay.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/yea-or-nay

My son's most recent birthday (3 years old) was a farm-themed birthday,
and we asked people to RSVP yay or neigh :P

So I guess there's all kinds of kooky fun you can have with flags...

-Steve


Nope, its definitely Aye when used for voting, (at least it is round
here) as in "all those in favour, say aye", "ayes to the right" and
"the ayes have it". Maybe southerners say this "yea" word of which you
speak, we don't hold with their strange customs in these parts ^^


I don't deny that aye is used frequently for voting. All I was saying
is, the correct expression is yea or nay, not yay or nay. Andrej thought
it was actually aye or nay, which I've never heard as an expression.

I'm not sure it's used anymore, but it's definitely an expression that
was used for voting (see my dictionary reference).

-Steve


True, "yea-or-nay" is quite a common, if old fashioned phrase, but "yea" 
on its own is exceptionally rare (to the point where I doubt ever 
hearing anyone make such a noise and mean it to indicate the affirmative).


A...


Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-12 Thread Paul D. Anderson
Alix Pexton Wrote:

> On 12/06/2011 16:11, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:36:55 -0400, Alix Pexton
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/06/2011 02:40, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:04:47 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
>  On 6/11/11, Alix Pexton  wrote:
> > On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> >> We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable,
> >> and
> >> even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!
> >
> > "Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not
> > actually a old English word :) A more correct alternative would be
> > "Aye" (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is
> > still
> > used for some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go
> > for lunch). I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)
> >
> > A...
> >
> 
>  Oh damn, yay is what teenage girls would say, not old Englishmen. My
>  bad, it really is "Aye". :p
> >>>
> >>> You were phonetically right :) It's yea or nay.
> >>>
> >>> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/yea-or-nay
> >>>
> >>> My son's most recent birthday (3 years old) was a farm-themed birthday,
> >>> and we asked people to RSVP yay or neigh :P
> >>>
> >>> So I guess there's all kinds of kooky fun you can have with flags...
> >>>
> >>> -Steve
> >>
> >> Nope, its definitely Aye when used for voting, (at least it is round
> >> here) as in "all those in favour, say aye", "ayes to the right" and
> >> "the ayes have it". Maybe southerners say this "yea" word of which you
> >> speak, we don't hold with their strange customs in these parts ^^
> >
> > I don't deny that aye is used frequently for voting. All I was saying
> > is, the correct expression is yea or nay, not yay or nay. Andrej thought
> > it was actually aye or nay, which I've never heard as an expression.
> >
> > I'm not sure it's used anymore, but it's definitely an expression that
> > was used for voting (see my dictionary reference).
> >
> > -Steve
> 
> True, "yea-or-nay" is quite a common, if old fashioned phrase, but "yea" 
> on its own is exceptionally rare (to the point where I doubt ever 
> hearing anyone make such a noise and mean it to indicate the affirmative).
> 
> A...

Then you must not have heard the King James Version of the Bible read aloud, or 
been to a Shakespeare play.

Admittedly the KJV and Shakespeare's works don't count as modern English, but I 
doubt you've never "heard such a noise"!  :-)

p.s. The word appears 209 times in Shakespeare's plays. There's a website for 
everything!



Re: Flag proposal [OT]

2011-06-13 Thread Alix Pexton

On 13/06/2011 02:31, Paul D. Anderson wrote:

Alix Pexton Wrote:


On 12/06/2011 16:11, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:36:55 -0400, Alix Pexton
  wrote:


On 12/06/2011 02:40, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:04:47 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic
  wrote:


On 6/11/11, Alix Pexton  wrote:

On 11/06/2011 06:18, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:

We should rename Yes and No to Yay and Nay to make them alignable,
and
even more importantly to make us appear as old Englishmen!


"Yay" and "Nay" are too similar looking, but luckily, "Yay" is not
actually a old English word :) A more correct alternative would be
"Aye" (pronounced the same as "eye"), which (along with "Nay") is
still
used for some voting actions (such as councillors deciding where to go
for lunch). I myself say it al least 20 times a day :)

A...



Oh damn, yay is what teenage girls would say, not old Englishmen. My
bad, it really is "Aye". :p


You were phonetically right :) It's yea or nay.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/yea-or-nay

My son's most recent birthday (3 years old) was a farm-themed birthday,
and we asked people to RSVP yay or neigh :P

So I guess there's all kinds of kooky fun you can have with flags...

-Steve


Nope, its definitely Aye when used for voting, (at least it is round
here) as in "all those in favour, say aye", "ayes to the right" and
"the ayes have it". Maybe southerners say this "yea" word of which you
speak, we don't hold with their strange customs in these parts ^^


I don't deny that aye is used frequently for voting. All I was saying
is, the correct expression is yea or nay, not yay or nay. Andrej thought
it was actually aye or nay, which I've never heard as an expression.

I'm not sure it's used anymore, but it's definitely an expression that
was used for voting (see my dictionary reference).

-Steve


True, "yea-or-nay" is quite a common, if old fashioned phrase, but "yea"
on its own is exceptionally rare (to the point where I doubt ever
hearing anyone make such a noise and mean it to indicate the affirmative).

A...


Then you must not have heard the King James Version of the Bible read aloud, or 
been to a Shakespeare play.

Admittedly the KJV and Shakespeare's works don't count as modern English, but I doubt 
you've never "heard such a noise"!  :-)

p.s. The word appears 209 times in Shakespeare's plays. There's a website for 
everything!



Aye, I did mean people using their own words and not someone else's. for 
such a prolific writer, 209 doesn't seem like a lot, and I can't help 
wondering how many times the bard used "aye".


Mind you, he was a southerner!

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