Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
On Monday, 23 July 2012 at 06:56:26 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote: I wonder if it's feasable to compile LLVM using DMC and then use extern(C++) to make an object oriented interface at some point, possibly using SWIG or something. The fact that the LLVM C++ API uses templates quite heavily might turn out to be a problem in that regard. I didn't have a look at how feasible it would be to just »pre-instantiate« all the needed combinations, though. David
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
On 2012-07-23 13:45, Sönke Ludwig wrote: I thought it doesn't yet support C++? But anyways, next time I have to make bindings for a C library I'll definitely try dstep. No, it doesn't support C++. I was thinking about generating bindings for the C API. -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
Am 23.07.2012 09:16, schrieb Jacob Carlborg: On 2012-07-23 08:56, Sönke Ludwig wrote: Ok great, then I can throw away my bindings :) (unfortunately I couldn't publish them because of my former employee...). Btw. regarding Barnard's comment about LLVM-C, I partially agree. Several additions/modifications were necessary in my case to be able to make the compiler fully work. I wonder if it's feasable to compile LLVM using DMC and then use extern(C++) to make an object oriented interface at some point, possibly using SWIG or something. But well.. apart from some missing features, I think the C interface is actually OK to work with, once you get over the missing documentation, so maybe it's really not worth the time. https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dstep I thought it doesn't yet support C++? But anyways, next time I have to make bindings for a C library I'll definitely try dstep.
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
On 2012-07-23 08:56, Sönke Ludwig wrote: Ok great, then I can throw away my bindings :) (unfortunately I couldn't publish them because of my former employee...). Btw. regarding Barnard's comment about LLVM-C, I partially agree. Several additions/modifications were necessary in my case to be able to make the compiler fully work. I wonder if it's feasable to compile LLVM using DMC and then use extern(C++) to make an object oriented interface at some point, possibly using SWIG or something. But well.. apart from some missing features, I think the C interface is actually OK to work with, once you get over the missing documentation, so maybe it's really not worth the time. https://github.com/jacob-carlborg/dstep -- /Jacob Carlborg
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
Am 22.07.2012 12:10, schrieb Jens Mueller: Sönke Ludwig wrote: Am 20.07.2012 07:35, schrieb Jens Mueller: Hi, I've written some Deimos interface for LLVM. https://github.com/jkm/deimos-llvm/commits/master I'd like to get some feedback on those. Firstly to finish these and secondly to finish some guidelines that I'd like to propose to be published on dlang.org. Jens Are the bindings for 3.0 or 3.1? I'm asking because at least some enum members have changed (don't exactly remember which). It's 3.1. Jens Ok great, then I can throw away my bindings :) (unfortunately I couldn't publish them because of my former employee...). Btw. regarding Barnard's comment about LLVM-C, I partially agree. Several additions/modifications were necessary in my case to be able to make the compiler fully work. I wonder if it's feasable to compile LLVM using DMC and then use extern(C++) to make an object oriented interface at some point, possibly using SWIG or something. But well.. apart from some missing features, I think the C interface is actually OK to work with, once you get over the missing documentation, so maybe it's really not worth the time.
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
Sönke Ludwig wrote: > Am 20.07.2012 07:35, schrieb Jens Mueller: > >Hi, > > > >I've written some Deimos interface for LLVM. > >https://github.com/jkm/deimos-llvm/commits/master > > > >I'd like to get some feedback on those. > >Firstly to finish these and secondly to finish some guidelines that I'd > >like to propose to be published on dlang.org. > > > >Jens > > > > Are the bindings for 3.0 or 3.1? > I'm asking because at least some enum members have changed (don't > exactly remember which). It's 3.1. Jens
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
Am 22.07.2012 07:50, schrieb Sönke Ludwig: re the bindings for 3.0 or 3.1? I'm asking because at least some enum members have changed (don't exactly remember which). Looks like 3.1 https://github.com/jkm/deimos-llvm
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
Am 20.07.2012 07:35, schrieb Jens Mueller: Hi, I've written some Deimos interface for LLVM. https://github.com/jkm/deimos-llvm/commits/master I'd like to get some feedback on those. Firstly to finish these and secondly to finish some guidelines that I'd like to propose to be published on dlang.org. Jens Are the bindings for 3.0 or 3.1? I'm asking because at least some enum members have changed (don't exactly remember which).
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
Bernard Helyer wrote: > On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 15:30:46 UTC, Jens Mueller wrote: > >Bernard Helyer wrote: > >>Very interesting. I'd be interested in making some D Native > >>feeling > >>bindings, because the LLVM C bindings are A, inconsistent, and > >>B, > >>complete shit. So this is interesting. > > > >Building a better wrapper on top of these would be nice. > >Can you give examples for A and B? > > > >Jens > > > The verbs used change from function to function. > I can't remember any off the top of my head, but I run into bunch > when > using it for SDC. > > As to B, they're incomplete, undocumented, and awkward to use. I see. Maybe they will improve. > No reflection on your fine work, of course. :) Yeah. I just translated those header files. I haven't written them. Jens
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 15:30:46 UTC, Jens Mueller wrote: Bernard Helyer wrote: Very interesting. I'd be interested in making some D Native feeling bindings, because the LLVM C bindings are A, inconsistent, and B, complete shit. So this is interesting. Building a better wrapper on top of these would be nice. Can you give examples for A and B? Jens The verbs used change from function to function. I can't remember any off the top of my head, but I run into bunch when using it for SDC. As to B, they're incomplete, undocumented, and awkward to use. No reflection on your fine work, of course. :)
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
=?UTF-8?B?Ik1pY2hhw6ts?=.Larouche" "@puremagic.com wrote: > On Friday, 20 July 2012 at 05:36:26 UTC, Jens Mueller wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I've written some Deimos interface for LLVM. > >https://github.com/jkm/deimos-llvm/commits/master > > > >I'd like to get some feedback on those. > >Firstly to finish these and secondly to finish some guidelines > >that I'd > >like to propose to be published on dlang.org. > > > >Jens > > I tried with my port of the Kaleidoscope, apart from some comestic > changes, it worked like a charm ! (Using LLVM 3.0) Thanks. To be honest I took your main.d to verify that it works. But I'm unsure what kind of examples to add to make sure it works. Just want something simple but complete. Jens
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
On Friday, 20 July 2012 at 05:36:26 UTC, Jens Mueller wrote: Hi, I've written some Deimos interface for LLVM. https://github.com/jkm/deimos-llvm/commits/master I'd like to get some feedback on those. Firstly to finish these and secondly to finish some guidelines that I'd like to propose to be published on dlang.org. Jens I tried with my port of the Kaleidoscope, apart from some comestic changes, it worked like a charm ! (Using LLVM 3.0) Here's the diff: https://github.com/mlarouche/llvm-d-tutorial/commit/8e3b53a1040db672c16fd0685bd0e6fd7d075b48#main.d
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
Bernard Helyer wrote: > Very interesting. I'd be interested in making some D Native feeling > bindings, because the LLVM C bindings are A, inconsistent, and B, > complete shit. So this is interesting. Building a better wrapper on top of these would be nice. Can you give examples for A and B? Jens
Re: Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
Very interesting. I'd be interested in making some D Native feeling bindings, because the LLVM C bindings are A, inconsistent, and B, complete shit. So this is interesting.
Preview LLVM Deimos bindings
Hi, I've written some Deimos interface for LLVM. https://github.com/jkm/deimos-llvm/commits/master I'd like to get some feedback on those. Firstly to finish these and secondly to finish some guidelines that I'd like to propose to be published on dlang.org. Jens
