Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:28:43 -0800 bls wrote: > A Database independent, ORM based library module is not even matter of > discussion. That's a pity. That would be nice, indeed. > Well for us Windoze is the only interesting Desktop platform. > A _reasonable_ GUI is not available yet.(D-GUI looks pretty > good,though) What is D-GUI, gtkD or DWT? Sincerely, Gour -- As a strong wind sweeps away a boat on the water, even one of the roaming senses on which the mind focuses can carry away a man's intelligence. http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
2012/1/1 Gour > On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:28:43 -0800 > bls wrote: > > > A Database independent, ORM based library module is not even matter of > > discussion. That's a pity. > > That would be nice, indeed. > > > Well for us Windoze is the only interesting Desktop platform. > > A _reasonable_ GUI is not available yet.(D-GUI looks pretty > > good,though) > > What is D-GUI, gtkD or DWT? > > dgui: http://code.google.com/p/dgui/ GUI library for Windows. Pretty easy to use. - gtkD and dwt2 are cross-platform GUI libraries for D. http://www.dsource.org/projects/gtkd https://bitbucket.org/torhus/dwt2
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 02:22:59 -0600 Jimmy Cao wrote: > GUI library for Windows. Pretty easy to use. Thank you, but not interesting for us looking for multi-platform library. Sincerely, Gour -- Those persons who execute their duties according to My injunctions and who follow this teaching faithfully, without envy, become free from the bondage of fruitive actions. http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: 52B5C810 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:28:43 -0800, bls wrote: > Not yet available. In case that Steve Teale (and he did a dammed > good Job, as well as Piotr) will add std.database this will not change > the situation significantly. 'Cause std.database will contain just > rudimentary DB support.. A Database independent, ORM based library > module is not even matter of discussion. That's a pity. > > Bjoern, Even being retired does not mean there's nothing else to do but D library components. I didn't get back to you yet because I'm busy making furniture for our expanding little enterprise here, and because of the holidays, and because I need to lose a few kilos off the belly that magically appeared while I was doing nothing but sit in front of a keyboard. Also I'd say for rudimentary I'd want to say basic. There's a slight difference. I'll be back. Steve But don't put the database stuff
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On Sunday, 1 January 2012 at 04:28:45 UTC, bls wrote: WEB Development is for sure doable in D, reusable Frameworks are nevertheless AFAIK not available. What kind of features did you have in mind for this?
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On 01/01/2012 10:49 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Sunday, 1 January 2012 at 04:28:45 UTC, bls wrote: WEB Development is for sure doable in D, reusable Frameworks are nevertheless AFAIK not available. What kind of features did you have in mind for this? Hi Adam, first of all: A happy and successful new year to you! To answer your question : An SaaS application living in a Cloud-Space, preferred atm is Amazon EC. The database Back-End will be (most probably PostGreSQL) WHY PostGres ? Callback notifications/ Server-side events ... not available in MySQL. (which you prefer in your framework) Another point is DB replication, partial DB replication. # The challenge for us is SaaS user management. Due to the fact that we are supporting small companies(1-5 users) as well as huge,international acting companies the Saas Software has to scale. I.E. From : "I would give your Software a try. We need just the basic package" ... to "We want it all (and more); We are looking for a long term contract" . In detail this means we have customers who wish to rent just PARTs OF OUR SOFTWARE for a month, others would like to rent our Software for a year, including all features. SOAP/REST is (in our case) needed to f.i. obtain prices. (https tunneling seems to be good enough (tm) )The other need for SOAP/REST (I am not sure if should go this way) is to access the SaaS application to receive certain informations/to add an potential clients, reuests, what the heck. ) In this case we have to establish a WSDL/REST - maybe oData Service. (I would prefer REST) ---Still have a hangover from new years day, so that's it 4 the moment. Indeed, I had your library in mind while talking about D for the WEB. Bjoern
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On 01/01/2012 07:02 AM, Steve Teale wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:28:43 -0800, bls wrote: Not yet available. In case that Steve Teale (and he did a dammed good Job, as well as Piotr) will add std.database this will not change the situation significantly. 'Cause std.database will contain just rudimentary DB support.. A Database independent, ORM based library module is not even matter of discussion. That's a pity. Bjoern, Even being retired does not mean there's nothing else to do but D library components. I didn't get back to you yet because I'm busy making furniture for our expanding little enterprise here, and because of the holidays, and because I need to lose a few kilos off the belly that magically appeared while I was doing nothing but sit in front of a keyboard. Also I'd say for rudimentary I'd want to say basic. There's a slight difference. I'll be back. Steve But don't put the database stuff Hi Steve, first of all: A happy and successful new year to you! What makes me a bit nervous is the use of structures in your source. In case that your goal is to establish a D database access standard, client and server wise, Interfaces are the way to go. Well, isn't the right of the youth to be impatient :) (I am just 50) So I am waiting for your feedback regarding the link I've send you. In my (in this case not so humble opinion) following this Design would make much sense. Kind regards, Bjoern
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On 01/01/2012 12:22 AM, Jimmy Cao wrote: GUI library for Windows. Pretty easy to use. ... and should be named Forms4D I definitely like this library. Pretty straight OOP, Each DOTNET Forms developer will immediately feel at home. New liberal license. Just cool!
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On 1/1/2012 7:02 AM, Steve Teale wrote: Even being retired does not mean there's nothing else to do but D library components. Steve, Happy New Year! Now get back to work!
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:16:13 -, bls wrote: On 01/01/2012 12:22 AM, Jimmy Cao wrote: GUI library for Windows. Pretty easy to use. ... and should be named Forms4D Or DForms (like WinForms from C#), or perhaps DFormed :p I definitely like this library. Pretty straight OOP, Each DOTNET Forms developer will immediately feel at home. New liberal license. Just cool! Cool, I should take a look at it :) R -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On Monday, 2 January 2012 at 16:21:16 UTC, bls wrote: WHY PostGres ? Callback notifications/ Server-side events ... not available in MySQL. (which you prefer in your framework) Aye, I've done some postgres, but since my main work app uses mysql I haven't spent a lot of time on it. While basic queries I'm pretty sure work right, I haven't used any of the more advanced features (partially because mysql doesn't have any). SOAP/REST is (in our case) needed to f.i. obtain prices. (https tunneling seems to be good enough (tm) )The other need for SOAP/REST (I am not sure if should go this way) is to access the SaaS application to receive certain informations/to add an potential clients, reuests, what the heck. ) In this case we have to establish a WSDL/REST - maybe oData Service. Right now, I think this could be done with my stuff, but it doesn't really exist yet. There's http api like things available in web.d, but it isn't SOAP or have WSDL... again, it just hasn't come up for me. I was replacing php with D more than replacing Java :) It's slowly growing though! As stuff comes up that I need for me, I'll write it.
Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
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Re: Database developer's gentle view on D.
On 01/01/2012 04:02 PM, Steve Teale wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:28:43 -0800, bls wrote: Not yet available. In case that Steve Teale (and he did a dammed good Job, as well as Piotr) will add std.database this will not change the situation significantly. 'Cause std.database will contain just rudimentary DB support.. A Database independent, ORM based library module is not even matter of discussion. That's a pity. Bjoern, Even being retired does not mean there's nothing else to do but D library components. I didn't get back to you yet because I'm busy making furniture for our expanding little enterprise here, and because of the holidays, and because I need to lose a few kilos off the belly that magically appeared while I was doing nothing but sit in front of a keyboard. Also I'd say for rudimentary I'd want to say basic. There's a slight difference. I'll be back. Steve But don't put the database stuff Could the result type of the query be Variant [][][string] resultSet; ... and the string would be something like. "data" //original data returned by the query "changed" "columnNames" "bgColor" or does it need something more specialised?
