Re: Two Questions [OT]

2014-02-05 Thread Sean Kelly

The problem I've had with MacPorts is that a bunch of ports are
just broken (meld, for instance).  I've had a lot more success
getting apps I pick to actually run when obtained via Homebrew.

As for OS... I used to target Solaris.  Linux isn't perfect, but
at least it isn't that pile of junk.


Re: Two Questions [OT]

2014-02-05 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 07:55 -0600, 1100110 wrote:
> On 2/5/14, 6:55, Gary Willoughby wrote:
[…]
> > Yes use brew *not* macports. The reason is brew is more well behaved
> > where it installs libs and doesn't need root permissions.
> 
> Oh good, I came very close to installing macports yesterday.  Thanks!

I started using MacPorts long before Brew existed. MacPorts has improved
massively over the last couple of years. If I was starting from scratch
I would probably install Brew, but now I'm a MacPort user I'll probably
stick. Brew refuses to install on a MacPort using machine, and there
seems no way of telling Brew to install it's version of everything there
was in a MacPort installation. AFAIK anyway.

For packagers I would say targetting an installer, MacPorts and Brew for
OSX is like doing a tarball, deb and rpm for Linux. 

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Re: Two Questions [OT]

2014-02-05 Thread 1100110

On 2/5/14, 6:55, Gary Willoughby wrote:

On Wednesday, 5 February 2014 at 12:33:25 UTC, 1100110 wrote:

On 2/4/14, 11:27, Gary Willoughby wrote:

On Tuesday, 4 February 2014 at 16:18:24 UTC, Steve Teale wrote:

Popped into my head today.

What proportion of the D community develops on Linux of some sort, and
what proportion works with a 64 bit OS?


I primarily use Ubuntu (Linux) 12.04 64bit. I'll update to 14.04 when
that comes out as i only install the LTS (long term support) versions.


And why?


Because it the easiest platform to install and get my hands on
development tools. sudo apt-get install for the win!

I use MacOS 10.8.5 64bit at work and have done lots of D development
there too. The big downside is lack of a package manager for getting my
hands on GCC/GDB/libs etc.. Homebrew[1] helps but is no match for apt.

[1]: http://brew.sh/


Quick question, Just got a Mac, currently setting it up.  You'd
recommend Brew over the alternatives?  Sorry, rather new to developing
with this OS...


Yes use brew *not* macports. The reason is brew is more well behaved
where it installs libs and doesn't need root permissions.


Oh good, I came very close to installing macports yesterday.  Thanks!


Re: Two Questions [OT]

2014-02-05 Thread 1100110

On 2/5/14, 6:41, evilrat wrote:

On Wednesday, 5 February 2014 at 12:33:25 UTC, 1100110 wrote:

On 2/4/14, 11:27, Gary Willoughby wrote:

On Tuesday, 4 February 2014 at 16:18:24 UTC, Steve Teale wrote:

Popped into my head today.

What proportion of the D community develops on Linux of some sort, and
what proportion works with a 64 bit OS?


I primarily use Ubuntu (Linux) 12.04 64bit. I'll update to 14.04 when
that comes out as i only install the LTS (long term support) versions.


And why?


Because it the easiest platform to install and get my hands on
development tools. sudo apt-get install for the win!

I use MacOS 10.8.5 64bit at work and have done lots of D development
there too. The big downside is lack of a package manager for getting my
hands on GCC/GDB/libs etc.. Homebrew[1] helps but is no match for apt.

[1]: http://brew.sh/


Quick question, Just got a Mac, currently setting it up.  You'd
recommend Brew over the alternatives?  Sorry, rather new to developing
with this OS...


the sad truth is that there is no convenient way of doing D on OS X, but
recent changes in Mono-D have brough some ease to it actually. still
forget about any debug because there is NO DEBUG INFO generated with
both DMD & LDC (not tested GDC yet).

as for GDB and other GNU stuff, yes brew is simple enough to get it done.



Ok, thanks!


Re: Two Questions [OT]

2014-02-05 Thread Gary Willoughby

On Wednesday, 5 February 2014 at 12:33:25 UTC, 1100110 wrote:

On 2/4/14, 11:27, Gary Willoughby wrote:

On Tuesday, 4 February 2014 at 16:18:24 UTC, Steve Teale wrote:

Popped into my head today.

What proportion of the D community develops on Linux of some 
sort, and

what proportion works with a 64 bit OS?


I primarily use Ubuntu (Linux) 12.04 64bit. I'll update to 
14.04 when
that comes out as i only install the LTS (long term support) 
versions.



And why?


Because it the easiest platform to install and get my hands on
development tools. sudo apt-get install for the win!

I use MacOS 10.8.5 64bit at work and have done lots of D 
development
there too. The big downside is lack of a package manager for 
getting my
hands on GCC/GDB/libs etc.. Homebrew[1] helps but is no match 
for apt.


[1]: http://brew.sh/


Quick question, Just got a Mac, currently setting it up.  You'd 
recommend Brew over the alternatives?  Sorry, rather new to 
developing with this OS...


Yes use brew *not* macports. The reason is brew is more well 
behaved where it installs libs and doesn't need root permissions.


Re: Two Questions [OT]

2014-02-05 Thread evilrat

On Wednesday, 5 February 2014 at 12:33:25 UTC, 1100110 wrote:

On 2/4/14, 11:27, Gary Willoughby wrote:

On Tuesday, 4 February 2014 at 16:18:24 UTC, Steve Teale wrote:

Popped into my head today.

What proportion of the D community develops on Linux of some 
sort, and

what proportion works with a 64 bit OS?


I primarily use Ubuntu (Linux) 12.04 64bit. I'll update to 
14.04 when
that comes out as i only install the LTS (long term support) 
versions.



And why?


Because it the easiest platform to install and get my hands on
development tools. sudo apt-get install for the win!

I use MacOS 10.8.5 64bit at work and have done lots of D 
development
there too. The big downside is lack of a package manager for 
getting my
hands on GCC/GDB/libs etc.. Homebrew[1] helps but is no match 
for apt.


[1]: http://brew.sh/


Quick question, Just got a Mac, currently setting it up.  You'd 
recommend Brew over the alternatives?  Sorry, rather new to 
developing with this OS...


the sad truth is that there is no convenient way of doing D on OS 
X, but recent changes in Mono-D have brough some ease to it 
actually. still forget about any debug because there is NO DEBUG 
INFO generated with both DMD & LDC (not tested GDC yet).


as for GDB and other GNU stuff, yes brew is simple enough to get 
it done.


Re: Two Questions [OT]

2014-02-05 Thread 1100110

On 2/4/14, 11:27, Gary Willoughby wrote:

On Tuesday, 4 February 2014 at 16:18:24 UTC, Steve Teale wrote:

Popped into my head today.

What proportion of the D community develops on Linux of some sort, and
what proportion works with a 64 bit OS?


I primarily use Ubuntu (Linux) 12.04 64bit. I'll update to 14.04 when
that comes out as i only install the LTS (long term support) versions.


And why?


Because it the easiest platform to install and get my hands on
development tools. sudo apt-get install for the win!

I use MacOS 10.8.5 64bit at work and have done lots of D development
there too. The big downside is lack of a package manager for getting my
hands on GCC/GDB/libs etc.. Homebrew[1] helps but is no match for apt.

[1]: http://brew.sh/


Quick question, Just got a Mac, currently setting it up.  You'd 
recommend Brew over the alternatives?  Sorry, rather new to developing 
with this OS...