Re: pulling teeth

2010-05-23 Thread BCS

Hello Walter,


They're your teeth, not the dentist's,


But only as long as they are in your mouth. Once they get pulled they are 
a bio-hazard and you can't have it back. Or so says some dentists. :Þ

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Re: pulling teeth

2010-05-22 Thread Walter Bright

Nick Sabalausky wrote:
The second one did say something like "It wouldn't be worth it to do a 
crown". Seemed to be implying that would be overkill. But I may check into 
that and the other stuff though. I checked into the dental surgeons he 
recommended (apparently, ordinary dentists don't do teeth pulling, or at 
least not wisdom teeth, or at least not busted up wisdom teeth...I dunno), 
and it was around $700 at either place. That's including being put under, 
but I'm an absolute baby about these sorts of things: if I'm going to have a 
tooth pulled, I'm sure as hell not gonna be awake for it ;)


Shopping around for a good price is a good idea, asking for a discount also can 
give good results.


That said, the health of one's mouth is a canary for the rest of the body. Good 
teeth also are a major quality of life issue. It's not a good place to cut corners.


I once knew a woman who came here from Russia. She had bad teeth, and a 
cringe-worthy smile. She had no money, but saved every dime until she could 
afford the dentist. The results were amazing. It completely transformed her face 
in a good way, and I think it turned around her life for the better.


Re: pulling teeth

2010-05-22 Thread Nick Sabalausky
"Walter Bright"  wrote in message 
news:ht9qvs$1po...@digitalmars.com...
> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> Good to know. In my case though, it's a wisdom tooth and, I would say 
>> that it's chipped, but it would be more accurate to say that half of it 
>> is gone, and what remains has two sharp edges (Kinda like a two-pronged 
>> fork pointing into the gums). It's not really causing much pain, but I do 
>> conciously try to chew on the other side (unnatural for me) because if I 
>> were to bite down on something the wrong way, then it would hurt like 
>> hell. Plus two dentists have already said it should go.
>
> My dentist told me they can now grind off the rotten top of a tooth and 
> add a new one attached to the original root. He told me that because one 
> of my molars has a growing crack in it. It's not a crisis now, but it will 
> be.
>
> I'd ask your dentist if he can just grind off the sharp edges, add a bit 
> of epoxy (they use epoxy now to fill cavities), and keep the root in 
> place.

Good stuff to know.

> Wisdom teeth can be hard to work on because they're so far back. Dentists 
> have a tendency to just pull them out rather than try to save them.

Yea, not surprised.

> Or maybe do a crown.
>

The second one did say something like "It wouldn't be worth it to do a 
crown". Seemed to be implying that would be overkill. But I may check into 
that and the other stuff though. I checked into the dental surgeons he 
recommended (apparently, ordinary dentists don't do teeth pulling, or at 
least not wisdom teeth, or at least not busted up wisdom teeth...I dunno), 
and it was around $700 at either place. That's including being put under, 
but I'm an absolute baby about these sorts of things: if I'm going to have a 
tooth pulled, I'm sure as hell not gonna be awake for it ;)

> > The first one did wanted me to get all the
> > wisdoms out. But the second one just said the one needed it and that the
> > other three didn't matter either way.
>
> Never go back to that first one.

Yea, never planned to. For various reasons actually. That one was actually 
the instructor of a student dentist that was working on me (because they're 
cheap and I'm poor ;) ). What she was telling me did seem slightly 
suspicious and I was convinced right then and there I needed a second 
opinion. Another thing though, is that this was part of a hospital system we 
have in Cleveland called University Hospitals, and I've had MAJOR problems 
with other offices in that system since then. I've always considered the 
other major system, Cleveland Clinic, to have absolute piss-poor management, 
but University Hospitals makes Cleveland Clinic look downright competent by 
comparison.

> I'd question the judgment of the 2nd in saying it "didn't matter" if they 
> were pulled.

Well, his exact words were more like "It's up to you if you want them 
pulled." Same thing, I suppose.

> I switched dentists when that one greedy jerk wanted to pull my wisdom 
> teeth, and found one that shared my views on preserving the natural teeth 
> as much as possible.

Yea, it can be difficult to find good people.




Re: pulling teeth

2010-05-22 Thread Walter Bright

retard wrote:
In my case the wisdom teeth didn't really fit in my mouth and harmed the 
occlusion. The doctors first tried to fix it with braces, but the growing 
wisdow tooth pushed it so hard that the first iteration of braces broke. 
After they removed the wisdom teeth, the treatment has again improved the 
occlusion to its previous pre wisdom teeth state.


There can be good reasons to remove wisdom teeth. In my case, the dentist did 
not have a good reason, and in Nick's case the first clearly did not, either. 
I've also seen dentists that do astonishingly good work.


Just be careful. They're your teeth, not the dentist's, and you're the one who 
has to live with the results. There's no going back from having one pulled.


For me, this all went back to when I was a kid my dad told me a story about a 
colleague of his with bad teeth. He had a lot of trouble with them, and his 
dentist eventually convinced him to have them pulled and replaced with dentures. 
My father said he sure was sorry, because no matter the trouble he had with his 
teeth, they were a heluva lot better than dentures.


Re: pulling teeth

2010-05-22 Thread retard
Sat, 22 May 2010 16:56:39 -0700, Walter Bright wrote:

> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> Good to know. In my case though, it's a wisdom tooth and, I would say
>> that it's chipped, but it would be more accurate to say that half of it
>> is gone, and what remains has two sharp edges (Kinda like a two-pronged
>> fork pointing into the gums). It's not really causing much pain, but I
>> do conciously try to chew on the other side (unnatural for me) because
>> if I were to bite down on something the wrong way, then it would hurt
>> like hell. Plus two dentists have already said it should go.
> 
> My dentist told me they can now grind off the rotten top of a tooth and
> add a new one attached to the original root. He told me that because one
> of my molars has a growing crack in it. It's not a crisis now, but it
> will be.
> 
> Wisdom teeth can be hard to work on because they're so far back.
> Dentists have a tendency to just pull them out rather than try to save
> them.
> 
> I'd ask your dentist if he can just grind off the sharp edges, add a bit
> of epoxy (they use epoxy now to fill cavities), and keep the root in
> place. Or maybe do a crown.
> 
>  > The first one did wanted me to get all the wisdoms out. But the
>  > second one just said the one needed it and that the other three
>  > didn't matter either way.
> 
> Never go back to that first one. I'd question the judgment of the 2nd in
> saying it "didn't matter" if they were pulled. I switched dentists when
> that one greedy jerk wanted to pull my wisdom teeth, and found one that
> shared my views on preserving the natural teeth as much as possible.

In my case the wisdom teeth didn't really fit in my mouth and harmed the 
occlusion. The doctors first tried to fix it with braces, but the growing 
wisdow tooth pushed it so hard that the first iteration of braces broke. 
After they removed the wisdom teeth, the treatment has again improved the 
occlusion to its previous pre wisdom teeth state.


Re: pulling teeth

2010-05-22 Thread Walter Bright

Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Good to know. In my case though, it's a wisdom tooth and, I would say that 
it's chipped, but it would be more accurate to say that half of it is gone, 
and what remains has two sharp edges (Kinda like a two-pronged fork pointing 
into the gums). It's not really causing much pain, but I do conciously try 
to chew on the other side (unnatural for me) because if I were to bite down 
on something the wrong way, then it would hurt like hell. Plus two dentists 
have already said it should go.


My dentist told me they can now grind off the rotten top of a tooth and add a 
new one attached to the original root. He told me that because one of my molars 
has a growing crack in it. It's not a crisis now, but it will be.


Wisdom teeth can be hard to work on because they're so far back. Dentists have a 
tendency to just pull them out rather than try to save them.


I'd ask your dentist if he can just grind off the sharp edges, add a bit of 
epoxy (they use epoxy now to fill cavities), and keep the root in place. Or 
maybe do a crown.


> The first one did wanted me to get all the
> wisdoms out. But the second one just said the one needed it and that the
> other three didn't matter either way.

Never go back to that first one. I'd question the judgment of the 2nd in saying 
it "didn't matter" if they were pulled. I switched dentists when that one greedy 
jerk wanted to pull my wisdom teeth, and found one that shared my views on 
preserving the natural teeth as much as possible.


Re: pulling teeth

2010-05-22 Thread Nick Sabalausky
"Walter Bright"  wrote in message 
news:ht9ka3$1dq...@digitalmars.com...
> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> If I had hundreds of dollars to toss around, I'd get my bad tooth pulled.
>
> Your original teeth are always better than the replacements, no matter how 
> bad they are, unless they are causing you great pain. Don't let some 
> greedy dentist convince you otherwise.
>
> Pulling a tooth can also destabilize its neighbors.
>
> 30 years ago, the dentist told me I needed my wisdom teeth pulled. I 
> refused, and I still have them, and they're fine.
>
> Another thing - dentistry advances rapidly, along with their ability to 
> save teeth.
>
> I don't know your situation, but be reluctant and skeptical about pulling 
> teeth. Get a second opinion.

Good to know. In my case though, it's a wisdom tooth and, I would say that 
it's chipped, but it would be more accurate to say that half of it is gone, 
and what remains has two sharp edges (Kinda like a two-pronged fork pointing 
into the gums). It's not really causing much pain, but I do conciously try 
to chew on the other side (unnatural for me) because if I were to bite down 
on something the wrong way, then it would hurt like hell. Plus two dentists 
have already said it should go. The first one did wanted me to get all the 
wisdoms out. But the second one just said the one needed it and that the 
other three didn't matter either way.

I know I didn't actually need to say any of that, but, well, HIPAA be 
damnned ;)