Re: [OFF TOPIC] State of D 2018 Survey

2018-03-02 Thread psychoticRabbit via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Friday, 2 March 2018 at 13:05:58 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:


Science, in and of itself, cannot be dodgy.



science must involve humans, and humans are often dodgy.

Yes there are debates to be had, cf. Popper, Kuhn, etc. but the 
foundation of science is hypotheses, experimentation, and 
reproducibility. It can be done badly or well by people, but it 
is not a dodgy thing.




there is no science without humans - they are two sides of the 
one coin.

If humans can be dodgy, so can science.



Perhaps you do not, but Rust, like Go, is getting traction in 
the world out there. Like COBOL, C will always be there, but 
its use will diminish rapidly.


Only when hardware becomes significantly faster, will C begin to 
fade, as then the case for C diminishes.


I do like the simplicity of Go - and then there are days when I 
just hate that simplicity. That R?s? thing...well...it is too odd 
for most people to embrace, I think


It is worth keeping an eye on .NET - as Microsoft are very 
determined to make this a cross platform runtime, and programming 
in C# is just .. nice.


And if I recall correctly, Java and .NET still dominate the 
employment opportunities, and as 'safety' is becoming even more 
and more important, I think that is likely to stay that way for a 
long time to come.


So I think all these new languages will just be playgrounds for 
ideas, or become domain specific languages, while .NET and JAVA 
use will continue to increase.




Re: [OFF TOPIC] State of D 2018 Survey

2018-03-02 Thread JN via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Friday, 2 March 2018 at 13:05:58 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:


Usually, but then an [OFF-TOPIC] marker gets added in the 
thread when a drift occurs.




Which is pretty much meaningless when using the web client, 
because it has a linear non-threaded history by default :)


Re: [OFF TOPIC] State of D 2018 Survey

2018-03-02 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 12:16 +, psychoticRabbit via Digitalmars-d-
announce wrote:
> On Friday, 2 March 2018 at 12:02:43 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> > On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 11:52 +, Russel Winder wrote:
> > > […]
> > > report science, does make science dodgy. But that stray off 
> > > topic for
> > 
> > […]
> > 
> > s/does/does not/
> > 
> > Obviously. :-)
> 
> mmm...freudian slip??

:-)

> I study science...and what's being taught to us .. is dodgy.

So, one of:

– the teaching is bad;
– the learner is not up to it; or
– both.

Science, in and of itself, cannot be dodgy.

Yes there are debates to be had, cf. Popper, Kuhn, etc. but the
foundation of science is hypotheses, experimentation, and
reproducibility. It can be done badly or well by people, but it is not
a dodgy thing.

> and anyway, since when do D forum discussion stay on topic?

Usually, but then an [OFF-TOPIC] marker gets added in the thread when a
drift occurs.

> C ruleZ!
> 
> ..and D does too ;-)
> 
> ... and I don't want to hear about Rust.
> So lets agree to never, ever mention that word...ever again.

Perhaps you do not, but Rust, like Go, is getting traction in the world
out there. Like COBOL, C will always be there, but its use will
diminish rapidly.

-- 
Russel.
==
Dr Russel Winder  t: +44 20 7585 2200
41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077
London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk


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