Re: Visual D 0.3.34 released - powered by a precise garbage collector

2012-10-13 Thread Walter Bright

On 10/12/2012 10:37 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:
> The Visual D installer can be downloaded from its website at
> http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald

On github:

https://github.com/rainers/visuald


Re: Visual D 0.3.34 released - powered by a precise garbage collector

2012-10-13 Thread Rainer Schuetze



On 10/13/2012 2:37 PM, Rainer Schuetze wrote:



My impression is that the branch on github
(https://github.com/rainers/druntime/tree/precise_gc2) is pretty stable.


I should add that you can expect running into linker problems because 
RTInfo for associative arrays is often not generated by dmd. My current 
workaround is to add "alias AssociativeArray!(Key,Value) _workaround;" 
somewhere if the linker complains about missing symbols for type 
"Value[Key]". The new demangling feature in Visual D is quite helpful 
here ;-)




Re: Visual D 0.3.34 released - powered by a precise garbage collector

2012-10-13 Thread Lubos Pintes

Not in Firefox, downloaded yesterday.
Dňa 13. 10. 2012 10:31 Nicholas Londey  wrote / napísal(a):

Chrome is flagging the download as 'This file appears malicious.' for
me. Have you run into this?

On Friday, 12 October 2012 at 17:37:09 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

Hi,

after struggling with memory issues for too long, the newest version
of Visual D enjoys the benefits of a pretty precise garbage collector.
This isn't the only new feature of this release, here are some more:

* linker error messages can now be decompressed and demangled (thanks
to Benjamin Thaut for providing the tool)
* optlink is now called directly with file monitoring: this allows
passing library path and detecting library and source dependencies
* various improvements to the parser and completion
* fixed installation for VS2012

The full changelog can be read here:
http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald/wiki/VersionHistory

Visual D is a Visual Studio package providing both project management
and language services for the D programming language. It works with
Visual Studio 2005-12 as well as the free Visual Studio Shells.

The Visual D installer can be downloaded from its website at
http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald

Rainer







Re: Visual D 0.3.34 released - powered by a precise garbage collector

2012-10-13 Thread Rainer Schuetze



On 10/13/2012 10:19 AM, thedeemon wrote:

On Friday, 12 October 2012 at 17:37:09 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

after struggling with memory issues for too long, the newest version
of Visual D enjoys the benefits of a pretty precise garbage collector.


Great news!
I'm a happy thankful user of VisualD. I really like the fact that the
new precise GC is being tested on a real world project, and that it
happens in Windows, not yet another unix-only development.

What are your thoughts on current state of precise_gc2? How stable and
how fast is it? What are the current plans for it?



I have only done a few benchmarks from the druntime/benchmark folder and 
the dmd test suite, but these are more biased towards lots of 
allocations than collections. For those, the overall performance is 
about 20-30% slower, because there is some more work to done in allocations.


Within Visual D, it seems that collections are quite a bit faster, but 
as the parser and semantic analysis which uses most memory, is delegated 
to another process, you probably won't notice it anyway.


My impression is that the branch on github 
(https://github.com/rainers/druntime/tree/precise_gc2) is pretty stable. 
There are still a number of unprecisely scanned memory areas:


- data and bss segment (Visual D uses a dmd/druntime a patch to 
implement precise scanning for these too, but it does not integrate very 
well and is Windows-specific so far)

- closures
- some structures in associative arrays, as there is no combined 
typeinfo available to be passed to the GC

- "emplaced" objects if memory is allocated with "new void[]"

The GC interface needs to be extended with a function to specify type 
info for an arbitrarily memory range to improve some of the above.


Re: Visual D 0.3.34 released - powered by a precise garbage collector

2012-10-13 Thread Rainer Schuetze



On 10/13/2012 10:31 AM, Nicholas Londey wrote:

Chrome is flagging the download as 'This file appears malicious.' for
me. Have you run into this?


I have downloaded and installed Chrome, and it does not complain. But 
Windows 8 SmartScreen does, probably because the installer is not 
signed. You can still allow installation by clicking "Details".




Re: Visual D 0.3.34 released - powered by a precise garbage collector

2012-10-13 Thread Nicholas Londey
Chrome is flagging the download as 'This file appears malicious.' 
for me. Have you run into this?


On Friday, 12 October 2012 at 17:37:09 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:

Hi,

after struggling with memory issues for too long, the newest 
version of Visual D enjoys the benefits of a pretty precise 
garbage collector. This isn't the only new feature of this 
release, here are some more:


* linker error messages can now be decompressed and demangled 
(thanks to Benjamin Thaut for providing the tool)
* optlink is now called directly with file monitoring: this 
allows passing library path and detecting library and source 
dependencies

* various improvements to the parser and completion
* fixed installation for VS2012

The full changelog can be read here: 
http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald/wiki/VersionHistory


Visual D is a Visual Studio package providing both project 
management and language services for the D programming 
language. It works with Visual Studio 2005-12 as well as the 
free Visual Studio Shells.


The Visual D installer can be downloaded from its website at 
http://www.dsource.org/projects/visuald


Rainer





Re: Visual D 0.3.34 released - powered by a precise garbage collector

2012-10-13 Thread thedeemon

On Friday, 12 October 2012 at 17:37:09 UTC, Rainer Schuetze wrote:
after struggling with memory issues for too long, the newest 
version of Visual D enjoys the benefits of a pretty precise 
garbage collector.


Great news!
I'm a happy thankful user of VisualD. I really like the fact that 
the new precise GC is being tested on a real world project, and 
that it happens in Windows, not yet another unix-only development.


What are your thoughts on current state of precise_gc2? How 
stable and how fast is it? What are the current plans for it?