Re: dmedia library

2014-11-08 Thread luminousone via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 07:32:53 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 7/11/2014 8:22 p.m., luminousone wrote:
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 07:08:02 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 7/11/2014 7:58 p.m., luminousone wrote:
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:42:24 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 7/11/2014 7:38 p.m., luminousone wrote:
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:29:14 UTC, Rikki 
Cattermole wrote:

On 7/11/2014 6:56 p.m., luminousone wrote:
I have been working on a media library, it still has a 
long way

to go,
but I figured its about time I shared what I am doing.

https://github.com/luminousone/dmedia

If I could possibly convince a few people out their to 
give'er a

once
over.

I use XCB/XLIB/GLX directly, so I am not just simply 
wrapping SDL or
SFML. And I am using XCB for event handling and opening 
windows.


Threading should work much more reliably, due to the use 
of XCB.


I am releasing the library under the BSD license,


Its a good start.
But instead of creating the window itself manually would 
you consider

using DWC [0]?

DWC is more or less done. But I need help with my plans 
for a game

dev
framework in D.
If you're interested in helping with that please give me 
an email

fi...@lastname.co.nz

[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/DWC


XLIB is an absolute train wreck when it comes to 
threading, call
XPollEvent outside your draw thread will most likely 
segfault.


As well I need control of the opengl contexts, as I want 
to separate

drawing and loading into separate threads.

I need both good threading support, and control over my 
opengl

contexts
to fulfill the goals I have set for myself.

That said, it is a nice looking library. But it would not 
fulfill my

needs.


Fair enough. Threading is a major issue with those low 
level api's.


I eventually want to build a entity system, and make use of
parallel_foreach, or fibers/routines, and have a loading 
thread that can

get assets in an async fashion.

Large voxel/cube-voxel systems and mega texturing interest 
me, I feel
like a small team could develop a big game with tools built 
around a

voxel system.

XCB mostly solves the threading issues that XLIB suffers 
from, However
XCB has poor support for the input extensions, as of yet 
nothing that
replaces xlookupstring, I hope to find a good work around at 
some point,

but it seems good enough for my needs.

Also I am not sure of how well XXf86vm extension is 
supported for full
screen access, As I have yet to implement full screen 
windows.


Its a learning experience, however so I can't complain to 
much!


Interesting, just out of interest have you thought about 
separating it
out and work independently of GUI's for e.g. game servers? Or 
would

that abstract it to the point of non-usefulness?


Yes, tho I have yet to put much thought into how that will all 
be put
together. Working towards something that I could use in 
vibe.d, without
any dependence on the windowing system would be important for 
a good

gameserver.


Depending on the needs of the game server, I would keep it 
apart from the web server aspect from vibe.d all together. By 
in large interacting with e.g. a task, shouldn't be hard but 
that's not quite why.
The idea behind my actor framework Dakka [0] (although would 
need a bit of work for this sort of thing).


Share the data (including data models) between the web server 
and game server over sockets with method calling support. But 
keep its functions separate.
Although the original context was all about having front end 
nodes for web development and backend nodes for interacting 
with e.g. VM's.


But that's just me rambling with not much reason.

[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/dakka


dwc has been an interesting read, using the dub configurations 
option, and separate directories for the different platforms 
seems much cleaner then my approach with version statements.


Your win32 code will be helpful when I get to that as well. 
Luckily win32 doesn't suffer the threading problems of xlib, nor 
does mac.


I will drop an email later tonight after work, I am sure their 
are a few area's where we can save time by sharing code, in so 
far as a larger framework is concerned.


dmedia library

2014-11-06 Thread luminousone via Digitalmars-d-announce
I have been working on a media library, it still has a long way 
to go, but I figured its about time I shared what I am doing.


https://github.com/luminousone/dmedia

If I could possibly convince a few people out their to give'er a 
once over.


I use XCB/XLIB/GLX directly, so I am not just simply wrapping SDL 
or SFML. And I am using XCB for event handling and opening 
windows.


Threading should work much more reliably, due to the use of XCB.

I am releasing the library under the BSD license,


Re: dmedia library

2014-11-06 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 7/11/2014 6:56 p.m., luminousone wrote:

I have been working on a media library, it still has a long way to go,
but I figured its about time I shared what I am doing.

https://github.com/luminousone/dmedia

If I could possibly convince a few people out their to give'er a once over.

I use XCB/XLIB/GLX directly, so I am not just simply wrapping SDL or
SFML. And I am using XCB for event handling and opening windows.

Threading should work much more reliably, due to the use of XCB.

I am releasing the library under the BSD license,


Its a good start.
But instead of creating the window itself manually would you consider 
using DWC [0]?


DWC is more or less done. But I need help with my plans for a game dev 
framework in D.
If you're interested in helping with that please give me an email 
fi...@lastname.co.nz


[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/DWC


Re: dmedia library

2014-11-06 Thread luminousone via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:29:14 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 7/11/2014 6:56 p.m., luminousone wrote:
I have been working on a media library, it still has a long 
way to go,

but I figured its about time I shared what I am doing.

https://github.com/luminousone/dmedia

If I could possibly convince a few people out their to give'er 
a once over.


I use XCB/XLIB/GLX directly, so I am not just simply wrapping 
SDL or
SFML. And I am using XCB for event handling and opening 
windows.


Threading should work much more reliably, due to the use of 
XCB.


I am releasing the library under the BSD license,


Its a good start.
But instead of creating the window itself manually would you 
consider using DWC [0]?


DWC is more or less done. But I need help with my plans for a 
game dev framework in D.
If you're interested in helping with that please give me an 
email fi...@lastname.co.nz


[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/DWC


XLIB is an absolute train wreck when it comes to threading, call 
XPollEvent outside your draw thread will most likely segfault.


As well I need control of the opengl contexts, as I want to 
separate drawing and loading into separate threads.


I need both good threading support, and control over my opengl 
contexts to fulfill the goals I have set for myself.


That said, it is a nice looking library. But it would not fulfill 
my needs.


Re: dmedia library

2014-11-06 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 7/11/2014 7:38 p.m., luminousone wrote:

On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:29:14 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

On 7/11/2014 6:56 p.m., luminousone wrote:

I have been working on a media library, it still has a long way to go,
but I figured its about time I shared what I am doing.

https://github.com/luminousone/dmedia

If I could possibly convince a few people out their to give'er a once
over.

I use XCB/XLIB/GLX directly, so I am not just simply wrapping SDL or
SFML. And I am using XCB for event handling and opening windows.

Threading should work much more reliably, due to the use of XCB.

I am releasing the library under the BSD license,


Its a good start.
But instead of creating the window itself manually would you consider
using DWC [0]?

DWC is more or less done. But I need help with my plans for a game dev
framework in D.
If you're interested in helping with that please give me an email
fi...@lastname.co.nz

[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/DWC


XLIB is an absolute train wreck when it comes to threading, call
XPollEvent outside your draw thread will most likely segfault.

As well I need control of the opengl contexts, as I want to separate
drawing and loading into separate threads.

I need both good threading support, and control over my opengl contexts
to fulfill the goals I have set for myself.

That said, it is a nice looking library. But it would not fulfill my needs.


Fair enough. Threading is a major issue with those low level api's.


Re: dmedia library

2014-11-06 Thread luminousone via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:42:24 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 7/11/2014 7:38 p.m., luminousone wrote:
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:29:14 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 7/11/2014 6:56 p.m., luminousone wrote:
I have been working on a media library, it still has a long 
way to go,

but I figured its about time I shared what I am doing.

https://github.com/luminousone/dmedia

If I could possibly convince a few people out their to 
give'er a once

over.

I use XCB/XLIB/GLX directly, so I am not just simply 
wrapping SDL or
SFML. And I am using XCB for event handling and opening 
windows.


Threading should work much more reliably, due to the use of 
XCB.


I am releasing the library under the BSD license,


Its a good start.
But instead of creating the window itself manually would you 
consider

using DWC [0]?

DWC is more or less done. But I need help with my plans for a 
game dev

framework in D.
If you're interested in helping with that please give me an 
email

fi...@lastname.co.nz

[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/DWC


XLIB is an absolute train wreck when it comes to threading, 
call

XPollEvent outside your draw thread will most likely segfault.

As well I need control of the opengl contexts, as I want to 
separate

drawing and loading into separate threads.

I need both good threading support, and control over my opengl 
contexts

to fulfill the goals I have set for myself.

That said, it is a nice looking library. But it would not 
fulfill my needs.


Fair enough. Threading is a major issue with those low level 
api's.


I eventually want to build a entity system, and make use of 
parallel_foreach, or fibers/routines, and have a loading thread 
that can get assets in an async fashion.


Large voxel/cube-voxel systems and mega texturing interest me, I 
feel like a small team could develop a big game with tools built 
around a voxel system.


XCB mostly solves the threading issues that XLIB suffers from, 
However XCB has poor support for the input extensions, as of yet 
nothing that replaces xlookupstring, I hope to find a good work 
around at some point, but it seems good enough for my needs.


Also I am not sure of how well XXf86vm extension is supported for 
full screen access, As I have yet to implement full screen 
windows.


Its a learning experience, however so I can't complain to much!


Re: dmedia library

2014-11-06 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 7/11/2014 7:58 p.m., luminousone wrote:

On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:42:24 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

On 7/11/2014 7:38 p.m., luminousone wrote:

On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:29:14 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

On 7/11/2014 6:56 p.m., luminousone wrote:

I have been working on a media library, it still has a long way to go,
but I figured its about time I shared what I am doing.

https://github.com/luminousone/dmedia

If I could possibly convince a few people out their to give'er a once
over.

I use XCB/XLIB/GLX directly, so I am not just simply wrapping SDL or
SFML. And I am using XCB for event handling and opening windows.

Threading should work much more reliably, due to the use of XCB.

I am releasing the library under the BSD license,


Its a good start.
But instead of creating the window itself manually would you consider
using DWC [0]?

DWC is more or less done. But I need help with my plans for a game dev
framework in D.
If you're interested in helping with that please give me an email
fi...@lastname.co.nz

[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/DWC


XLIB is an absolute train wreck when it comes to threading, call
XPollEvent outside your draw thread will most likely segfault.

As well I need control of the opengl contexts, as I want to separate
drawing and loading into separate threads.

I need both good threading support, and control over my opengl contexts
to fulfill the goals I have set for myself.

That said, it is a nice looking library. But it would not fulfill my
needs.


Fair enough. Threading is a major issue with those low level api's.


I eventually want to build a entity system, and make use of
parallel_foreach, or fibers/routines, and have a loading thread that can
get assets in an async fashion.

Large voxel/cube-voxel systems and mega texturing interest me, I feel
like a small team could develop a big game with tools built around a
voxel system.

XCB mostly solves the threading issues that XLIB suffers from, However
XCB has poor support for the input extensions, as of yet nothing that
replaces xlookupstring, I hope to find a good work around at some point,
but it seems good enough for my needs.

Also I am not sure of how well XXf86vm extension is supported for full
screen access, As I have yet to implement full screen windows.

Its a learning experience, however so I can't complain to much!


Interesting, just out of interest have you thought about separating it 
out and work independently of GUI's for e.g. game servers? Or would that 
abstract it to the point of non-usefulness?


Re: dmedia library

2014-11-06 Thread luminousone via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 07:08:02 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 7/11/2014 7:58 p.m., luminousone wrote:
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:42:24 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 7/11/2014 7:38 p.m., luminousone wrote:
On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:29:14 UTC, Rikki Cattermole 
wrote:

On 7/11/2014 6:56 p.m., luminousone wrote:
I have been working on a media library, it still has a 
long way to go,

but I figured its about time I shared what I am doing.

https://github.com/luminousone/dmedia

If I could possibly convince a few people out their to 
give'er a once

over.

I use XCB/XLIB/GLX directly, so I am not just simply 
wrapping SDL or
SFML. And I am using XCB for event handling and opening 
windows.


Threading should work much more reliably, due to the use 
of XCB.


I am releasing the library under the BSD license,


Its a good start.
But instead of creating the window itself manually would 
you consider

using DWC [0]?

DWC is more or less done. But I need help with my plans for 
a game dev

framework in D.
If you're interested in helping with that please give me an 
email

fi...@lastname.co.nz

[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/DWC


XLIB is an absolute train wreck when it comes to threading, 
call
XPollEvent outside your draw thread will most likely 
segfault.


As well I need control of the opengl contexts, as I want to 
separate

drawing and loading into separate threads.

I need both good threading support, and control over my 
opengl contexts

to fulfill the goals I have set for myself.

That said, it is a nice looking library. But it would not 
fulfill my

needs.


Fair enough. Threading is a major issue with those low level 
api's.


I eventually want to build a entity system, and make use of
parallel_foreach, or fibers/routines, and have a loading 
thread that can

get assets in an async fashion.

Large voxel/cube-voxel systems and mega texturing interest me, 
I feel
like a small team could develop a big game with tools built 
around a

voxel system.

XCB mostly solves the threading issues that XLIB suffers from, 
However
XCB has poor support for the input extensions, as of yet 
nothing that
replaces xlookupstring, I hope to find a good work around at 
some point,

but it seems good enough for my needs.

Also I am not sure of how well XXf86vm extension is supported 
for full

screen access, As I have yet to implement full screen windows.

Its a learning experience, however so I can't complain to much!


Interesting, just out of interest have you thought about 
separating it out and work independently of GUI's for e.g. game 
servers? Or would that abstract it to the point of 
non-usefulness?


Yes, tho I have yet to put much thought into how that will all be 
put together. Working towards something that I could use in 
vibe.d, without any dependence on the windowing system would be 
important for a good gameserver.




Re: dmedia library

2014-11-06 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 7/11/2014 8:22 p.m., luminousone wrote:

On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 07:08:02 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

On 7/11/2014 7:58 p.m., luminousone wrote:

On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:42:24 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

On 7/11/2014 7:38 p.m., luminousone wrote:

On Friday, 7 November 2014 at 06:29:14 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

On 7/11/2014 6:56 p.m., luminousone wrote:

I have been working on a media library, it still has a long way
to go,
but I figured its about time I shared what I am doing.

https://github.com/luminousone/dmedia

If I could possibly convince a few people out their to give'er a
once
over.

I use XCB/XLIB/GLX directly, so I am not just simply wrapping SDL or
SFML. And I am using XCB for event handling and opening windows.

Threading should work much more reliably, due to the use of XCB.

I am releasing the library under the BSD license,


Its a good start.
But instead of creating the window itself manually would you consider
using DWC [0]?

DWC is more or less done. But I need help with my plans for a game
dev
framework in D.
If you're interested in helping with that please give me an email
fi...@lastname.co.nz

[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/DWC


XLIB is an absolute train wreck when it comes to threading, call
XPollEvent outside your draw thread will most likely segfault.

As well I need control of the opengl contexts, as I want to separate
drawing and loading into separate threads.

I need both good threading support, and control over my opengl
contexts
to fulfill the goals I have set for myself.

That said, it is a nice looking library. But it would not fulfill my
needs.


Fair enough. Threading is a major issue with those low level api's.


I eventually want to build a entity system, and make use of
parallel_foreach, or fibers/routines, and have a loading thread that can
get assets in an async fashion.

Large voxel/cube-voxel systems and mega texturing interest me, I feel
like a small team could develop a big game with tools built around a
voxel system.

XCB mostly solves the threading issues that XLIB suffers from, However
XCB has poor support for the input extensions, as of yet nothing that
replaces xlookupstring, I hope to find a good work around at some point,
but it seems good enough for my needs.

Also I am not sure of how well XXf86vm extension is supported for full
screen access, As I have yet to implement full screen windows.

Its a learning experience, however so I can't complain to much!


Interesting, just out of interest have you thought about separating it
out and work independently of GUI's for e.g. game servers? Or would
that abstract it to the point of non-usefulness?


Yes, tho I have yet to put much thought into how that will all be put
together. Working towards something that I could use in vibe.d, without
any dependence on the windowing system would be important for a good
gameserver.


Depending on the needs of the game server, I would keep it apart from 
the web server aspect from vibe.d all together. By in large interacting 
with e.g. a task, shouldn't be hard but that's not quite why.
The idea behind my actor framework Dakka [0] (although would need a bit 
of work for this sort of thing).


Share the data (including data models) between the web server and game 
server over sockets with method calling support. But keep its functions 
separate.
Although the original context was all about having front end nodes for 
web development and backend nodes for interacting with e.g. VM's.


But that's just me rambling with not much reason.

[0] https://github.com/rikkimax/dakka