Re: public alias to private template implementation
On Monday, 16 September 2013 at 23:53:14 UTC, Meta wrote: So you're really directly accessing a private symbol. Perhaps a workaround could be something like this: // module Test; static const fun = Impl!int; private template Impl(T) { void Impl(){} } // module main; import Test; void main() { fun(); } I had to do fun = Impl!int because the compiler complained about fun = Impl!int. This seems to be not working, because Impl actually holds an overload. It's actually something like: private template Impl(T) { void Impl(){} void Impl(int){} } Grown.
Re: public alias to private template implementation
On 16/09/13 23:00, monarch_dodra wrote: Question 1: Is this the correct behavior? I'd have expected that if my alias is public, it would allow any one from outside to make the call correctly. See: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10996 Question 2: Is there a correct way to do this? I possible, I'd want to avoid nesting the template, eg: auto fun(){return Impl!int();} As that would: a) require more typing ^^ b) incur an extra function call in non-inline c) if at all possible, I actually need fun to be a template, so that it can be inlined. Indeed, I used that workaround of manually nesting the functions in some code of mine: https://github.com/WebDrake/Dgraph/blob/master/dgraph/graph.d#L492-L516 ... but that's not a general solution, I was able to tolerate it because it's a limited and predictable set of instructions. Jacob Carlborg suggested using opDispatch (cf. how it's done in Proxy), which should automate the nesting of template functions. I avoided it simply because in my case I thought that doing it manually would be less hassle than getting opDispatch set up to cover every possible case, but depending on your use case it might be the better option.
Re: public alias to private template implementation
On Tuesday, 17 September 2013 at 08:47:25 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: On 16/09/13 23:00, monarch_dodra wrote: Question 1: Is this the correct behavior? I'd have expected that if my alias is public, it would allow any one from outside to make the call correctly. See: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=10996 Question 2: Is there a correct way to do this? I possible, I'd want to avoid nesting the template, eg: auto fun(){return Impl!int();} As that would: a) require more typing ^^ b) incur an extra function call in non-inline c) if at all possible, I actually need fun to be a template, so that it can be inlined. Indeed, I used that workaround of manually nesting the functions in some code of mine: https://github.com/WebDrake/Dgraph/blob/master/dgraph/graph.d#L492-L516 ... but that's not a general solution, I was able to tolerate it because it's a limited and predictable set of instructions. Jacob Carlborg suggested using opDispatch (cf. how it's done in Proxy), which should automate the nesting of template functions. I avoided it simply because in my case I thought that doing it manually would be less hassle than getting opDispatch set up to cover every possible case, but depending on your use case it might be the better option. Thanks. I'm not very fluent with opDispatch though. Doesn't that only work if you have an struct/class instance though? My fun is a free frunction. I you are able to adapt it to my trivial usecase, it might be clearer to me what you have in mind.
Re: public alias to private template implementation
On 17/09/13 11:30, monarch_dodra wrote: Thanks. I'm not very fluent with opDispatch though. Doesn't that only work if you have an struct/class instance though? My fun is a free frunction. Ack. Sorry, I overlooked that. :-( Still, I think this provides greater impulse for Issue 10996 to be fixed, since your issue clearly stems from the same access implementation issues. If you make a public alias, you'd expect public members of whatever you're aliasing to be public through that alias. I guess it might be desirable to require some clear indication Yes, I really, really know what I'm doing and I do want this alias to be public -- e.g. compelling you to use the public keyword explicitly.
Re: public alias to private template implementation
That is actually very weird because you can override protection attribute with alias for an aggregate: // b.d private struct A_ { } public alias A = A_; // a.d void main() { A a; } // fine! That inconsistency feels plain wrong. Worth enhancement request at least.
public alias to private template implementation
Reduced: // module A; alias fun = Impl!int; private template Impl(T) { void Impl(){} } // void main() { fun(); } // Error: function A.Impl!int.Impl is not accessible from module main // I'm trying to implement a set of public funtions, in terms of a template. Said template has no business being know to the user, so I want to mark it as private. Unfortunately, if I do this, then I can't use the alias, because Impl is private. Question 1: Is this the correct behavior? I'd have expected that if my alias is public, it would allow any one from outside to make the call correctly. Question 2: Is there a correct way to do this? I possible, I'd want to avoid nesting the template, eg: auto fun(){return Impl!int();} As that would: a) require more typing ^^ b) incur an extra function call in non-inline c) if at all possible, I actually need fun to be a template, so that it can be inlined.
Re: public alias to private template implementation
On Monday, 16 September 2013 at 21:00:21 UTC, monarch_dodra wrote: I'm trying to implement a set of public funtions, in terms of a template. Said template has no business being know to the user, so I want to mark it as private. Unfortunately, if I do this, then I can't use the alias, because Impl is private. Question 1: Is this the correct behavior? I'd have expected that if my alias is public, it would allow any one from outside to make the call correctly. Question 2: Is there a correct way to do this? I possible, I'd want to avoid nesting the template, eg: auto fun(){return Impl!int();} As that would: a) require more typing ^^ b) incur an extra function call in non-inline c) if at all possible, I actually need fun to be a template, so that it can be inlined. It makes sense to me, and seems like it would be analogous to returning a private member from a public method in structs or classes. However, since an alias rewritten to what it is aliased to (they completely disappear at compile time), I think your code would be equivalent to this: // module A; private template Impl(T) { void Impl(){} } // module B; //I'm assuming that main is supposed to be in a different module? import A; void main() { Impl!int(); } So you're really directly accessing a private symbol. Perhaps a workaround could be something like this: // module Test; static const fun = Impl!int; private template Impl(T) { void Impl(){} } // module main; import Test; void main() { fun(); } I had to do fun = Impl!int because the compiler complained about fun = Impl!int.