Re: [digitalradio] PSK frquencies

[John Bradley]

bonjour Yves, welcome back!!!
 
You can find PSk at 3580, 7070, 14070, etc all on 
USB. Usual power output is about 30 watts, to avoid overloading and 

affecting multiple QSO's.
 
There are now a wide variety of other 
soundcard modes, notably OLIVIA. almost as good as CW under poor 
conditions.
 
I have seen a few VE2's lately on 20, and will 
watch for you
 
John
VE5MU

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  Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:21 
  PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] PSK 
  frquencies
  
  Hi!
  After four years away from PSK, where should I 
  look for PSK QSO's?
  I used to work them on 14071.0 LSB.
  Are they still there, and what other frequencies 
  should I look at?
   
   
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Re: [digitalradio] PSK frquencies

[Roger J. Buffington]

yves dussault wrote:

  
  
  
  Hi!
  After four years away from PSK,
where should I look for PSK QSO's?
  I used to work them on 14071.0 LSB.
  Are they still there, and what other
frequencies should I look at?
   
   

Same place.  Also look at 7.070-073, and 10100-109

de Roger W6VZV






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[digitalradio] PSK frquencies

[yves dussault]

Hi!
After four years away from PSK, where should I look 
for PSK QSO's?
I used to work them on 14071.0 LSB.
Are they still there, and what other frequencies 
should I look at?
 
 
VE2ATD
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RE: [digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW

[Dave]

A 50% cpu load seems really high, Patrick. WinWarbler consumes less than 1%
of a 1.5 ghz Pentium 4 when generating CW via software. It uses ticks from
TimerMM.dll to drive a state machine. What sort of timer are you using?

  73,

  Dave, AA6YQ

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Subject: Re: [digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW


Hello Bill and Paul,

Multipsk can directly key the transceiver (I use it this way). However, it 
is not advised under Windows XP because it takes about 50 % of the computing

power (due to the obligation to manage a pseudo "timer").

The most simple to do CW is to do it as PSK31 (in USB).

73
Patrick



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From: "Box SisteenHundred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:36 PM
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW


> That IS cw Paul.
>
> In reality, that's how your rig probably generates CW
>
> By injecting an audio tone into a SSB transmitter.
>
> When you say won't do "regular" cw...  do you mean
> keying a circuit open and closed so you can connect it
> to the key jack of your rig?
>
> 73
>
> Bill  KA8VIT
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://ka8vit.com
>
>
>>From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>>To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW
>>Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:56:36 -
>>
>>  MULTI PSK ONLY XMTS CW ON USB OR LSB DOES NOT DO REGULAR CW,AT LEAST  
>> I CANT GET IT TO WORK ?? BUT IS A EXCELLENT DIGITAL PROGRAM
>>  K8PG-Paul
>
>
>
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Re: [digitalradio] New rules/description for Digitalradio Group

[Andrew O'Brien]

Sorry about the typos and inverted comma issues in this post.  I will
fix when adding to the official rules.

Andy

On 3/8/06, Andrew O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The description for this group has been amended:
>
> ---
> This is a meeting place to discuss amateur radio digital
> applications such as RTTY, CW, PSK31,PSK63, MFSK16, Olivia-MFSK,
> Contestia,RTTYM,  Chip64, DominoEXj, THROB, ALE,  PACTOR, AMTOR,
> HELL, SSTV, Digital SSTV,  and more.  There are several reflectors
> dedicated to these separate modes but this group focuses on ALL
> digital modes.  Software applications such as MixW, Logger32,
> MMVARI, MMTTY, MultiPSK, Hamscope, Winwarbler/DXLAB, Digipan, etc,
> etc, are often discussed. Theory of digital communications is
> encouraged.  Experimentation with new digital modes is also
> encouraged. Questions from newcomers are welcome.
>
> A sister group, Digipol, exists at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digipol  . Digipol is a separate area
> for discussion of digital radio policy matters such as band
> allocation, ARRL and FCC digital policies, unattended operation
> debates, etc, etc. Debates about the aforementioned should be on
> digipol only.  If in doubt, contact the group owner (Andy K3UK).
> 
>
> The follow will be added to the rules for the group.
>
> "please avoid posting messages relating to policy matters such as
> the FCC/IARU rules about digital communications. Posts about this
> topic , bandwidth allocation, and the whole PACTOR/unattended
> operations debate, usually produce heated arguements.  We want to
> avoid such arguements here,  BUT you are free to post about these
> topics in our sister group , Digipol
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digipol  ) .
>
> Occasional announcememts about changes/propsals to digital
> communication rules are allowed, just avoid the endless debate.
>
> If you violate these rules, you will have your status changed
> to "moderated status", policy/debate posts will be forwarded to the
> Digipol group."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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>
>


--
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[digitalradio] New rules/description for Digitalradio Group

[Andrew O'Brien]

The description for this group has been amended:

---
This is a meeting place to discuss amateur radio digital 
applications such as RTTY, CW, PSK31,PSK63, MFSK16, Olivia-MFSK, 
Contestia,RTTYM,  Chip64, DominoEXj, THROB, ALE,  PACTOR, AMTOR, 
HELL, SSTV, Digital SSTV,  and more.  There are several reflectors 
dedicated to these separate modes but this group focuses on ALL 
digital modes.  Software applications such as MixW, Logger32, 
MMVARI, MMTTY, MultiPSK, Hamscope, Winwarbler/DXLAB, Digipan, etc, 
etc, are often discussed. Theory of digital communications is 
encouraged.  Experimentation with new digital modes is also 
encouraged. Questions from newcomers are welcome.  

A sister group, Digipol, exists at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digipol  . Digipol is a separate area 
for discussion of digital radio policy matters such as band 
allocation, ARRL and FCC digital policies, unattended operation 
debates, etc, etc. Debates about the aforementioned should be on 
digipol only.  If in doubt, contact the group owner (Andy K3UK).


The follow will be added to the rules for the group.

"please avoid posting messages relating to policy matters such as 
the FCC/IARU rules about digital communications. Posts about this 
topic , bandwidth allocation, and the whole PACTOR/unattended 
operations debate, usually produce heated arguements.  We want to 
avoid such arguements here,  BUT you are free to post about these 
topics in our sister group , Digipol
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digipol  ) .

Occasional announcememts about changes/propsals to digital 
communication rules are allowed, just avoid the endless debate.

If you violate these rules, you will have your status changed 
to "moderated status", policy/debate posts will be forwarded to the 
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[digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW

[Paul]

 MULTI PSK ONLY XMTS CW ON USB OR LSB DOES NOT DO REGULAR CW,AT LEAST
 I CANT GET IT TO WORK ?? BUT IS A EXCELLENT DIGITAL PROGRAM
 K8PG-Paul







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[digitalradio] Re: Poll results for digitalradio

[radionorway]

Couldn't agree more ;)

de LA5VNA Steinar 





--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Howard S. White"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> lets get back to talking about new digital modes...
> 
> with all the neat things we can do with them
> 
> and not burden the readers around the world with petty US politics.
> __
> Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6  ex-AE6SM  KY6LA
> Website: www.ky6la.com
> "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"
> "Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 San Diego Fires, 911"
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: John Becker
>   To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:01 AM
>   Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Poll results for digitalradio
> 
> 
>   Maybe that 97.5 % just got so tried of hearing
>   the same old complaint over and over and over
>   and over again. Some of us understand that
>   this will happen no matter what the mode.
> 
>   I even hate to bring it up again fearing to start
>   it all over.
> 
>   Some of the ideas that I have seen are just to far
>   out of it and put a undo burden on one group of
>   operators. CW ID every 5minutes and not
>   transmitting for 10 minutes after asking if the
>   frequency is in use. If it's good got one it's
>   should also be good for all.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   At 10:11 PM 3/7/06, Danny Douglas wrote in part:
>   >"This is a meeting place to discuss amateur radio digital
applications
> such
>   >as RTTY, CW, PSK31,PSK63, MFSK16, Olivia-MFSK, Contestia,RTTYM,
Chip64,
>   >DominoEXj, THROB, ALE, PACTOR, AMTOR, HELL, SSTV, Digital SSTV,
and more.
>   >There are several reflectors dedicated to these separate modes
but this
>   >group focuses on ALL digital modes."
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW

[Patrick Lindecker]

Hello Bill and Paul,

Multipsk can directly key the transceiver (I use it this way). However, it 
is not advised under Windows XP because it takes about 50 % of the computing 
power (due to the obligation to manage a pseudo "timer").

The most simple to do CW is to do it as PSK31 (in USB).

73
Patrick



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From: "Box SisteenHundred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:36 PM
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW


> That IS cw Paul.
>
> In reality, that's how your rig probably generates CW
>
> By injecting an audio tone into a SSB transmitter.
>
> When you say won't do "regular" cw...  do you mean
> keying a circuit open and closed so you can connect it
> to the key jack of your rig?
>
> 73
>
> Bill  KA8VIT
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://ka8vit.com
>
>
>>From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>>To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW
>>Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:56:36 -
>>
>>  MULTI PSK ONLY XMTS CW ON USB OR LSB DOES NOT DO REGULAR CW,AT LEAST
>>  I CANT GET IT TO WORK ?? BUT IS A EXCELLENT DIGITAL PROGRAM
>>  K8PG-Paul
>
>
>
>
> Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to  Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org
>
> Other areas of interest:
>
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> DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol  (band plan policy 
> discussion)
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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[digitalradio] Re: MULTIPSK CW

[kd0ca]

You will need to look at the "modes" setup button, and you can tell
the program to use only audio to the rig on CW, or you can select
audio plus PTT (keying through RTS line) or just the PTT keying alone.

If you have a transistor switch or optoisolator and switch in the RTS
circuit, it will key the rig in "real" CW.  I am so blessed to have a
Ten-Tec Argonaut V, as the PTT for the rig doubles as hard keying when
I am in CW mode.  MultiPSK works great for CW transmit and receive for me.

Most important in receiving CW via computer, is to narrow the IF and
reduce the RF gain (or use an attenuator).  If the CW is too loud and
above the threshhold of the decoding algorithm, it seems that is
copies badly in EVERY CW reception program.  And nearly all CW RXC
programs do a very good job when you "starve" them for a signal a
littel bit. :-)

CwGet is the best, bar none.  MultiPSK is very good, however.  It
seems to me MultiPSK does all things well.  (Kudos to Patrick)

73,
Jerry KDØCA
Washington, IA
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  MULTI PSK ONLY XMTS CW ON USB OR LSB DOES NOT DO REGULAR CW,AT LEAST
>  I CANT GET IT TO WORK ?? BUT IS A EXCELLENT DIGITAL PROGRAM
>  K8PG-Paul
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Re: [digitalradio] Poll results for digitalradio

[Dr. Howard S. White]

lets get back to talking about new digital modes... 

 
with all the neat things we can do with 
them
 
and not burden the readers around the world with 
petty US politics.
__Howard S. 
White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6  ex-AE6SM  KY6LAWebsite: www.ky6la.com "No Good Deed Goes 
Unpunished""Ham Antennas Save Lives - Katrina, 2003 San Diego Fires, 
911"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Becker 
  
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:01 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Poll results 
  for digitalradio
  Maybe that 97.5 % just got so tried of hearingthe same 
  old complaint over and over and overand over again. Some of us understand 
  thatthis will happen no matter what the mode.I even hate to bring 
  it up again fearing to startit all over.Some of the ideas that I 
  have seen are just to farout of it and put a undo burden on one group 
  ofoperators. CW ID every 5minutes and nottransmitting for 10 minutes 
  after asking if thefrequency is in use. If it's good got one 
  it'sshould also be good for all.At 10:11 PM 
  3/7/06, Danny Douglas wrote in part:>"This is a meeting place to 
  discuss amateur radio digital applications such>as RTTY, CW, 
  PSK31,PSK63, MFSK16, Olivia-MFSK, Contestia,RTTYM, Chip64,>DominoEXj, 
  THROB, ALE, PACTOR, AMTOR, HELL, SSTV, Digital SSTV, and more.>There 
  are several reflectors dedicated to these separate modes but this>group 
  focuses on ALL digital modes."





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[digitalradio] Next Solar Cycle Will Be Bigger

[Thomas Giella KN4LF]

   That prediction is utter nonsense. A space weather forecast 
model is even more useless than for weather forecasting. NASA scientists 
have used the same reckless abandon in declaring that man induced global 
warming is occurring.


   It appears that cycle 24 will be the "smallest" not largest in 
many cycles. We are currently in a multidecadal oscillation that features 
ever smaller sunspot cycles.


   Cycle 23 was pretty dismal for DX on 15, 12 and 10 meters, 
compared to previous cycle peaks. Cycle 24 will be as bad or worse.


   Cycle 23 will bottom out sometime in 2007. If you check the 
solar flux numbers they are still running in the 70's. When they 
consistently run in the mid 60's then we are at the bottom of cycle 23.


   --... ...--,
   Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
   Retired Meteorologist & Space Plasma Physicist
   Lakeland, FL, USA
   Grid Square EL97AW
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:40:37 -
From: "expeditionradio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Next Solar Cycle Will Be Bigger"

Research Scientist Dr. Mausumi Dikpati predicts the next Solar
Cycle 24 will be bigger than the previous Cycle 23!
She says the new solar seismic data from SOHO has enabled better
long term sunspot prediction than ever before. A 40 year cycle
of flow effects the sun's magnetic material.
For more info, click on the solar cycle prediction chart:
http://hflink.com/#solarcycle

Bonnie KQ6XA

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RE: [digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW

[Box SisteenHundred]

That IS cw Paul.

In reality, that's how your rig probably generates CW

By injecting an audio tone into a SSB transmitter.

When you say won't do "regular" cw...  do you mean
keying a circuit open and closed so you can connect it
to the key jack of your rig?

73

Bill  KA8VIT
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://ka8vit.com


>From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW
>Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:56:36 -
>
>  MULTI PSK ONLY XMTS CW ON USB OR LSB DOES NOT DO REGULAR CW,AT LEAST
>  I CANT GET IT TO WORK ?? BUT IS A EXCELLENT DIGITAL PROGRAM
>  K8PG-Paul




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Re: [digitalradio] Re: CW program???

[KV9U]

Except for a very expensive CW software reader program ($60), I have not 
found a better CW reader software than Multipsk.

73,

Rick, KV9U


jhaynesatalumni wrote:

> MultiPSK does CW
>
>
>



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RE: [digitalradio] CW program???

[Dave]

WinWarbler can generate CW in software, via a WinKey interface like
MicroHam's MicroKeyer, or via an external modem like the KAM or PK232. CW
decoding requires an external modem.

WinWarbler also includes a phone voice keyer, as well as support for PSK31,
PSK63, and RTTY. A common user interface and macro facility are used with
all supported modes.

   73,

Dave, AA6YQ

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:29 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CW program???


MixW does a good job, so does Hamcope.  Ham radio Deluxe "may" add CW
capability later this year.  I think Winwarbler may do CW these days, not
sure.

Andy K3UK

On 3/7/06, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What does everyone recommend to copy and transmit CW?
> I use TRX-Manager as well as Ham Radio Deluxe to control the radio. I 
> dont want to use a TNC just the computer itself.
>
> Thanks
> NB2A
> Tom
>
>
>
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Re: [digitalradio] CW program???

[F.R. Ashley]

Have you tried "CW Type"?  Is recv companion program is CW Get.

73 WB4M
Buddy


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:48 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] CW program???


> What does everyone recommend to copy and transmit CW?
> I use TRX-Manager as well as Ham Radio Deluxe to control the radio.
> I dont want to use a TNC just the computer itself.
>
> Thanks
> NB2A
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[digitalradio] MULTIPSK CW

[Paul]

 MULTI PSK ONLY XMTS CW ON USB OR LSB DOES NOT DO REGULAR CW,AT LEAST
 I CANT GET IT TO WORK ?? BUT IS A EXCELLENT DIGITAL PROGRAM
 K8PG-Paul





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[digitalradio] Re: CW program???

[jhaynesatalumni]

MultiPSK does CW





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Re: [digitalradio] CW program???

[Danny Douglas]

WinWarbler sends  but is not yet ready to receive CW,  Personally I havent
found one CW program that can copy CW worth the medium its written on.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CW program???


> MixW does a good job, so does Hamcope.  Ham radio Deluxe "may" add CW
> capability later this year.  I think Winwarbler may do CW these days,
> not sure.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
> On 3/7/06, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What does everyone recommend to copy and transmit CW?
> > I use TRX-Manager as well as Ham Radio Deluxe to control the radio.
> > I dont want to use a TNC just the computer itself.
> >
> > Thanks
> > NB2A
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[digitalradio] Re: [Packet] OT: Attention Software Authors

[doc]

John,

Could your new list include Apple, Linux, and MS apps
as well as a Linux menu?  I have your Rigblaster Plus and
could only locate three Linux apps in one folder on the CD.
The menu structure and most content is MS-specific.

Also, could you include Amateur DTV apps for all three
operating systems?  DTV for Amateur Radio looks like an
exciting new(er) mode and I have just created a discussion
list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dtv-ham/ to host the
gathering of information.

I have not yet used it and only recently even heard
about it.  Sure looks like a great mode for emergency
and hobby image communications.

Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e

> I have the unenviable task of updating the West Mountain Radio
> Software Collection. I was charged with this project in hopes of
> having an up to date compilation of digital modes available for the
> Dayton Hamvention. If you are not familiar with it, the West Mountain
> Radio Software Collection is a CD collection of soundcard digital
> modes. It has been included in all our RIGblaster products since day
> one and has been distributed to more than 50,000 ham radio operators
> around the world. It is included free in our products, sold
> separately at a price that covers its production costs, and given
> away free at many hamfests and conferences.
> 
> I cordially invite all software authors who would like their works
> included to submit their latest versions of their programs. We are 
> looking for freeware & shareware digital soundcard modes and rig
> control. Please also include info on your website so we can update
> our links page.
> 
> Please submit directly to me, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 73 and thanks in advance for the help.
> 
> John Kalotai
> Sales and Service
> West Mountain Radio


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[digitalradio] available software pr ea psk31 contest

[EA4ZB]

Sorry, for the moment only available in spanish language.
 
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[digitalradio] Re: CW program???

[scottpa1960]

To decode CW, the program that I found that is the most powerful is
called CWGet. If you do a google search for CWGet, you'll find it.
There are many settings for it in RX mode which make it very good at
copying cw and it is shareware.

73--Scott
WY3X

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> MixW does a good job, so does Hamcope.  Ham radio Deluxe "may" add CW
> capability later this year.  I think Winwarbler may do CW these days,
> not sure.
> 
> Andy K3UK
> 
> On 3/7/06, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What does everyone recommend to copy and transmit CW?
> > I use TRX-Manager as well as Ham Radio Deluxe to control the radio.
> > I dont want to use a TNC just the computer itself.
> >
> > Thanks
> > NB2A
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> 
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Cheapest foray in to Pactor

[KV9U]

While this is not "the" graph I was referring to, the last graph on the 
web site is very similar in showing Pactor 2 and 3 working down to 
inaudible levels. The Pactor 1 mode that is shown working down to about 
-5 db S/N uses the SCS product and works better than any of the other 
hardware or software products at this time for that mode. My experience 
(many years ago) with Pactor 1 using a KAM was not that good, since you 
could still hear the signal even though it would loose the link. Same 
with Clover II. (Even though there were some at the time who claimed it 
worked on inaudible signals, but I never found that to be true).

The Jones graph is helpful in that it has a logarithmic y axis showing 
the data throughput. This helps to better see the knee of the curves for 
the modes. I think that you will find that for fixed station operation, 
PSK31 will work much lower into Gaussian noise, but with automotive 
ignition noise it was severely affected. What they don't test against is 
the newer digital sound card modes that have similar modulation to 
Pactor modes and have advanced FEC. In some cases, I think you will find 
that MFSK16 and Olivia will compete favorably under the worst 
conditions, but of course they do not scale up like P2 and P3.

I have been impressed with how well P2 and P3 can work with only a -5 
S/N ratio since it is a magnitude better than anything else. Since their 
modulation scheme is not that different from other schemes, one wonders 
how they do it and why other programmers can not meet this level of 
performance, even if a non ARQ mode.

73,

Rick, KV9U




Steve Waterman, k4cjx wrote:

> http://ecjones.org/pactor.html
>
> Steve, k4cjx
>
>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hola, Jose,
> >
> > I know exactly what graph you speak of but it is not on their web
> site
> > any longer and I could not find it anywhere else.
> >
> > When I wrote my initial message I was going to put the claim that
> SCS
> > had some years ago about how deep into the noise the Pactor modes
> can
> > go. But I could not remember for sure. My recollection was around -
> 16 db
> > for P2 and P3, it was similar to what you recalled. The graph
> indicated
> > that there could not be much throughput at low S/N ratios since it
> was a
> > steep curve at that point. Just like Clover II, you would have a
> link,
> > hear the signal, but it just would not pass any data, even though
> it
> > stayed "connected" for a time.
> >
> > Rick, KN6KB has published his interpretation of the throughput of P
> > modes and claimed that by -5 db, the throughput was near zero for
> all of
> > them.
> >
> > It is my understanding that Pactor is varying numbers of DPSK tones
> not
> > unlike PSK except faster. At the slowest speed wouldn't it be like
> > PSK100 using two tones or DPSK100? Then they add tones up to 16DPSK
> if
> > the conditions will allow sufficient throughput.
> >
> > What is it about current sound cards that will not allow this to
> work on
> > a 2 gig or better computer? The switching of the computer seems
> adequate
> > on my ICOM rig to tolerate a similar mode. If more time was needed
> then
> > one could use a longer block, and and a sufficient window listening
> for
> > the ARQ. If this still was not practical (due to insufficient
> processing
> > power of the computer) then you could move the computational power
> > requirement to the background and pipeline it as in SCAMP. I wonder
> how
> > different this would be from the non ARQ (but later correctible)
> DRM
> > modes they use for SSTV?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Rick, KV9U
> >
> >




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[digitalradio] Re: EA PSK31 TEST software

[wb4tdb]

In a message dated 3/7/2006 7:46:31 P.M. GMT Standard Time, 
digitalradio@yahoogroups.com writes:
Available software for next EA PSK31 CONTEST 2006, donwnload 
  here:http://www.ure.es/winurecon/ 
  

Joaquin,
Is there an English version of the Web site?
73
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Re: [digitalradio] Poll results for digitalradio

[John Becker]

Maybe that 97.5 % just got so tried of hearing
the same old complaint over and over and over
and over again. Some of us understand that
this will happen no matter what the mode.

I even hate to bring it up again fearing to start
it all over.

Some of the ideas that I have seen are just to far
out of it and put a undo burden on one group of
operators. CW ID every 5minutes and not
transmitting for 10 minutes after asking if the
frequency is in use. If it's good got one it's
should also be good for all.






At 10:11 PM 3/7/06, Danny Douglas wrote in part:
>"This is a meeting place to discuss amateur radio digital applications such
>as RTTY, CW, PSK31,PSK63, MFSK16, Olivia-MFSK, Contestia,RTTYM, Chip64,
>DominoEXj, THROB, ALE, PACTOR, AMTOR, HELL, SSTV, Digital SSTV, and more.
>There are several reflectors dedicated to these separate modes but this
>group focuses on ALL digital modes."



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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Cheapest foray in to Pactor

[John Bradley]

I'll second that. The Kam needs about an S3 signal 
or better to work. the Pk232 can go into the noise.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Roger 
  J. Buffington 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:45 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Cheapest 
  foray in to Pactor
  Steve Waterman, k4cjx wrote:>There are a number 
  of Participating Winlink stations that will accept >Pactor 1 when using 
  Winlink 2000. Get the latest firmware if you are >using the PK-232. 
  There is no memory ARQ, and I would think that a >used KAM Plus would 
  be a better bargan, but each will work.>>Steve, 
  k4cjx>  >I have used both the KAM and the PK232 for 
  Pactor.  There is no comparison; the PK232 is far superior.de 
  Roger W6VZV
  
  

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Cheapest foray in to Pactor

[Roger J. Buffington]

Steve Waterman, k4cjx wrote:

>There are a number of Participating Winlink stations that will accept 
>Pactor 1 when using Winlink 2000. Get the latest firmware if you are 
>using the PK-232. There is no memory ARQ, and I would think that a 
>used KAM Plus would be a better bargan, but each will work.
>
>Steve, k4cjx
>  
>
I have used both the KAM and the PK232 for Pactor.  There is no 
comparison; the PK232 is far superior.

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Re: [digitalradio] CW program???

[Andrew O'Brien]

MixW does a good job, so does Hamcope.  Ham radio Deluxe "may" add CW
capability later this year.  I think Winwarbler may do CW these days,
not sure.

Andy K3UK

On 3/7/06, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What does everyone recommend to copy and transmit CW?
> I use TRX-Manager as well as Ham Radio Deluxe to control the radio.
> I dont want to use a TNC just the computer itself.
>
> Thanks
> NB2A
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Poll results for digitalradio

[Andrew O'Brien]

I will give the results some thought and make a decision by the
weekend.  Thanks to all that voted .


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[digitalradio] Re: Poll results for digitalradio

[scottpa1960]

Tonight is the first time in about a month that I even looked on this
reflector. What kept me away was this big discussion about the
unattended pactor discussion. Now the votes are in, unfortunately
since I purposely stayed away, I didn't get my vote. Watching paint
dry is more interesting to me than these great debates that we have no
control over nor will we ever pursuade the ARRL or FCC either way. Our
hands are tied and we're at the mercy of the FCC and ARRL. I have an
opinion on this but I'd rather not get this discussion fired up again,
because it serves no purpose because we aren't going to change
anything anyway.

Scott
WY3X

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "This is a meeting place to discuss amateur radio digital
applications such
> as RTTY, CW, PSK31,PSK63, MFSK16, Olivia-MFSK, Contestia,RTTYM, Chip64,
> DominoEXj, THROB, ALE, PACTOR, AMTOR, HELL, SSTV, Digital SSTV, and
more.
> There are several reflectors dedicated to these separate modes but this
> group focuses on ALL digital modes."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This is part of the description of introduction to this Yahoo Group.
   To
> me, the words "all" and "more" seem to describe the addition of digital
> modes other than the specific ones named, and that would include
"unattended
> digital modes", which the majority of responders have now said they
want to
> exclude from this group.
> 
> Those who voted to  "allow without restrictions" , and those who
apparently
> didnt care or didnt know make up slightly  less than 50% of the voting
> group, leaving the remainder of voters who apparently disagree with the
> initial tenant of membership interests.  Another way to view this is
that
> 29, out of a membership of 2156, do not want to hear further information
> about "unattended digital modes" , or 1.3% of total membership.  A
total of
> 55 voted (2.5 percent).   The question is:   What of the other 97.5%
who did
> not vote?
> 
> In a political election, of course, they voted for the "winning"
side, since
> they certainly did not vote against it.  Either way, whoever or whatever
> subject is voted on, must take in consideration the real (silent)
majority.
> Elected officials cannot simply ignore them, nor their views.
> 
> I am perfectly willing (and often do)  click on the Delete button when a
> subject pops up that I am not interested in.  My mail program is able to
> simply ignore and delete any subject or sender that I might wish to
do so -
> though mine is NOT set to delete any subject or member.
> 
>  I believe we would do a disservice to members to follow up this
poll with a
> ban on the subject, given the small numbers of respondents to this poll.
> Might I suggest that any further emails about this subject contain
one -and
> one only- subject lines, so those who do not want to be bothered
with it can
> immediately ban that subject in their own email program, or at least
know
> they do not want to read the message and click on the Delete button?
 That
> way, the rest of the members can continue to discuss what many feel
is an
> important subject, within the parameters set up within this group.
> Danny
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:10 PM
> Subject: [digitalradio] Poll results for digitalradio
> 
> 
> >
> > The following digitalradio poll is now closed.  Here are the
> > final results:
> >
> >
> > POLL QUESTION: Should debate about unattended digital stations
(such as
> Pactor) , their usefulness,
> > and their band allocations,  be allowed on this reflector?
> >
> > CHOICES AND RESULTS
> > - No, move such posts to the DigiPol group, 29 votes, 52.73%
> > - I don't care either way, 8 votes, 14.55%
> > - I don't know., 2 votes, 3.64%
> > - Yes, allow without restrictions, 16 votes, 29.09%
> >
> >
> >
>










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Re: [digitalradio] EA PSK31 TEST software

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

http://www.ure.es/winurecon/descarga/WinURECon-2.0-inst.exe

Mensaje original
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recibido: 08/03/2006 1:34
Para: 
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] EA PSK31 TEST software

SINCE I CANT SPEAK OR READ SPANISH, WHERE EXACTLY IS
THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON??

--- EA4ZB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello to all:
> 
> Available software for next EA PSK31 CONTEST 2006,
> donwnload here:
>  http://www.ure.es/winurecon/
> 
> 
> I' invite you all to participate in the first EA
> PSK31 CONTEST. You'll be
> welcome.
> 
> i hope to meet you in the contest . Good luck
> 
> --
> 73 de JOAQUIN - EA4ZB
> Contest Manager EA PSK31 CONTEST
> 


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[digitalradio] CW program???

[Tom]

What does everyone recommend to copy and transmit CW?
I use TRX-Manager as well as Ham Radio Deluxe to control the radio.
I dont want to use a TNC just the computer itself.

Thanks
NB2A
Tom









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