[digitalradio] Re: "Omnibus" rules published in Federal Register
I hate people that reply to their own posts but I was being curt...besides the obvious response to the "onmibus" rules, what was interesting to me was the ARRL page specifically saying "The elimination of J2D emissions, data sent by modulating an SSB transmitter, of more than 500 Hz bandwidth (thus making PACTOR III at full capability illegal)".why only mention PACTOR III? This certainly impacts other digital modes as well that run wider than 500 Hz. Am I missing something as usual? Perhaps the most ironic part is the "omnibus" ruling's continual use of the phrase "more efficient" in speaking of band usage for their explanations of the changes, especially in regard to 80 meters. I see a big squish coming below 3.600 as people will have few options as to where to operate... Bill, N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Bill McLaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, I bet they petition *real* hard over that issue! > > 73 > > Bill N9DSJ > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Theodore A. Antanaitis" > wrote: > > > > Received this reply today: > > > > Hi Ted: > > > > As of Dec 15 Pactor-III running at a bandwidth of greater than 500 Hz > > (such as Winlink) is not permissible below 30 MHz. This is one of the > > petition to reconsider items being considered by the ARRL Board of > > Directors. > > > > Thanks and 73 > > > > Dan Henderson, N1ND > > ARRL Regulatory Information Specialist > > >
[digitalradio] New FCC Rules Dec 15th
FCC "Omnibus" Amateur Radio R&O Published in Federal Register, Takes Effect December 15 NEWINGTON, CT (November 15, 2006) -- Just a little over a month after the Federal Communications Commission released the Report and Order (R&O) in the so-called "Omnibus" Amateur Radio proceeding, WT Docket 04-140 (FCC 06-149) to the public, a revised version appeared today in the Federal Register. The changes in the R&O will take effect Friday, December 15, at 12:01 AM EST, 30 days after its publication. As expected, the Report & Order as published this morning clarified two items that had raised some concerns when it was first released last month: That the 80/75 meter band split applies to all three IARU Regions, and that FCC licensees in Region 2, which includes North America, can continue to use RTTY/data emissions in the 7.075-7.100 MHz band. Still to be resolved are three controversial aspects of the Proceeding: Expansion of the 75 meter phone band all the way down to 3600 kHz (thus reducing the privileges of General, Advanced and Amateur Extra class licensees, who had RTTY/data privileges in the 80 meter band, and CW privileges of General and Advanced class licensees) The elimination of J2D emissions, data sent by modulating an SSB transmitter, of more than 500 Hz bandwidth (thus making PACTOR III at full capability illegal), and The elimination of access to the automatic control RTTY/data subband at 3620-3635 kHz. The ARRL Board is discussing the possibility of a petition to reconsider several items in the R&O. ARRL Regulatory Information Specialist Dan Henderson, N1ND, commented: "The release of the R&O in the Federal Register has started the countdown clock. We are all looking forward to being able to use the refarmed frequencies starting on December 15. We are still anxiously awaiting the release of the Report and Order for 05-235, the Morse Code Proceeding. We are hopeful that the Commission will be able to move on that petition and address the outstanding issues in the Omnibus R&O soon." (ARRL Web)
[digitalradio] 80M
so does this mean, that running the 80m phone band down to 3600, that all digi must use the segment from 3500 to 3500? sharing with CW at the lower end, or can digi co-exist with SSB from 3600 to whatever? I can't see other countries changing operating habits, moving RTTY and CW nets below 3600 from where they are now, between 3600 and 3650. In Canada, we have been using the segment from 3700 to 4000 for SSB , and all other modes below 3700. There are a number of national and local SSB nets between 3725 and 3750 which meet nightly. John VE5MU
Re: [digitalradio] 80M
The only reason that other countries would listen on our bands/on our given modes would be to work us DX. Most wont pay any more attention now than they have in the past. I would guess it means all digital would have to stay in the first 100 kc, plus data. The FCC has just made it much more difficult to work both cw and digital operations, as well as RTTY (which is also figured to be digital). It is going to be a mess. In order to avoid stateside SSB QRM I forsee many nets going down below 3.6, and causing even more inteference to not only our, but their, CW and digital ops. We Need WORLDWIDE subbands with teeth. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:14 PM Subject: [digitalradio] 80M so does this mean, that running the 80m phone band down to 3600, that all digi must use the segment from 3500 to 3500? sharing with CW at the lower end, or can digi co-exist with SSB from 3600 to whatever? I
Re: [digitalradio] 80M
Even though some things are still not fully clear to me, as I mentioned on an earlier post, at least we do know for sure that in the U.S. the CW/data area is now below 3600 for 80 meters. The Extra class can operate from 3600 to 4000 phone or image which includes wide band width digital FAX or voice, but not digital data. Other countries I am sure will continue to operate in any way that they prefer. Although 80 meters is primarily a regional or closer in band, there are some DXing interests. The US CW traffic nets have been or will be forced to move down to below 3600. Our Section nets converged on one new frequency about in the middle of the new CW/data segment and made the switch within a week of finding out the realities of the future changes. The one thing that makes it a little more palatable is that all hams licensed for HF, including Novice and Tech Plus, will all be able to operate in several key General Class areas and that is as it should be so that we have more interoperability. I still find it hard to believe that the FCC felt it was a good idea to shortchange new digital technology operations. I don't think that any of us thought that we would lose privileges in terms of band space for digital and also the loss of allowable bandwidth for modes in that area. 73, Rick, KV9U John Bradley wrote: >so does this mean, that running the 80m phone band down to 3600, that all digi >must use the segment from 3500 to 3500? sharing with CW at the lower end, or >can digi co-exist with SSB from 3600 to whatever? > >I can't see other countries changing operating habits, moving RTTY and CW nets >below 3600 from where they are now, between 3600 and 3650. >In Canada, we have been using the segment from 3700 to 4000 for SSB , and all >other modes below 3700. There are a number of national and local SSB nets >between 3725 and 3750 which meet nightly. > >John >VE5MU > > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 > >
[digitalradio] Re: "Omnibus" rules published in Federal Register
>As of Dec 15 Pactor-III running at a bandwidth of greater than 500 Hz >(such as Winlink) is not permissible below 30 MHz. This is one of the >petition to reconsider items being considered by the ARRL Board of >Directors. Of course any digital mode >500Hz bandwidth on any frequency <=30Mhz is not permissible now. Bummer. Digital imaging with embedded symbols (stegenography) anyone? Please? 73... Jon W1MNK
[digitalradio] EasyPal 16X-NOV-06 just released
-- Forwarded message -- From: Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 15, 2006 1:58 PM Subject: [digsstv] EasyPal 16X-NOV-06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EasyPal 16X-NOV-06 just released. EasyPal is Digital SSTV software by VK4AES Erik from Australia. It is compatable in the DRM mode for sending picture files with DIGTRX 3.11, HamPAL 09JAN06, WinDRM, and EasyPal. BSR's may not work when sent to earlier versions of EasyPal, so everyone should be encouraged to download and use the latest version. http://www.tima.com/~djones2/EasyPal_16X_NOV_06.zip 73 Dave KB4YZ
[digitalradio] FCC Failure
Somehow, the Federal Register posting neglected to resolve the conflict concerning automatic digital forwarding on 80 meters. There is no change to section 97.221. Forwarding is allowed, but it isn't, yet it is? Raising the lower end for voice to 3.635 would fix a few problems. ... Duane N7QDN
Re: [digitalradio] "Omnibus" rules published in Federal Register
Dan: Why would the ARRL do this? It is my opinion that coupled with the parts of Pactor-III that are considered trade secrets, Pactor-III is in violation of Part 97 making it an encryption. There is no provision in part 97 for being able to receive it with ridiculously priced hardware, it simply MUST be a completely reproducible specification available for open reading to not be in violation of Part 97. The League does not help the situation by aiding SCS continue to be a scofflaw. Bob N4HY Theodore A. Antanaitis wrote: > Received this reply today: > > Hi Ted: > > As of Dec 15 Pactor-III running at a bandwidth of greater than 500 Hz > (such as Winlink) is not permissible below 30 MHz. This is one of the > petition to reconsider items being considered by the ARRL Board of > Directors. > > Thanks and 73 > > Dan Henderson, N1ND > ARRL Regulatory Information Specialist > > -- AMSAT Director and VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair "You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat." - Einstein
