[digitalradio] Re: W9AV W3LL W7ZR
Hi Roger, That coincides with what I saw. Was able to work digital modes on 40 meters during the day but suspect that was only possible as all the juicy points-producing propagation was on 20 and 15 meters during that time-frame. 73 Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Roger J. Buffington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > > I worked the contest from Europe and in general the PSK frequencies > > on 40m and 20m were left alone by the contesters. I agree it is > > annoying sometimes if u dont want to work the contest and I am often > > in this situation. > > I have no idea how things were in Europe. But from here on the West > Coast of the USA, all of the 40 and 20M PSK freqs, and most of the CW > freqs as well, were completely overrun by contesters. It was nearly > impossible to operate digital other than in the contest. Nor did hardly > anyone do so. The band plan went out the window. RTTY stations were > even up around 14076.5-079.5. > > de Roger W6VZV >
[digitalradio] Re: W9AV W3LL W7ZR
Hello Andrew, This happens during most every "contest"I used to work contests alot when I was younger and had more staminaunderstand the frustrations of many as some contest ops seem to not care about anything other than points. "Gentleman's" agreements seem to be predicated on people acting gentlemanly; alas such is oft not the case. It is no different than during other conteststry carrying out a qso on 2 or 6 meters within arm's reach of a "calling" freq during a major VHF contest. Actually I listened quite abit and saw RTTY sigs right on the 40 and 20 meter psk/digi calling freqs but this was a contest where psk contacts "counted", I believe. Have no problem with contest stations calling - I do have issues with anyone jumping on top of a frequency that is in use (not limited to contest stations). This was compounded last night (and in future nights) by the limited band space on 75 meters for digital ops. One other consideration; some contest stations/ops rarely if ever frequent the digital mode sub-bands when a contest is not in progress..they only operate during contests -- the more subtle issues of any "gentleman's" agreements are either lost on them or they do not care...I guess overall it means we have to adjust to contesters or protest by means available. Was alot easier when contests were fewer and far between...think one reason I do not work most contests anymore is that there are simply too many of themwhen it was a contest every few months it was interesting; when it became a contest every weekend it became a pain. 73 Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I worked the contest from Europe and in general the PSK frequencies > on 40m and 20m were left alone by the contesters. I agree it is > annoying sometimes if u dont want to work the contest and I am often > in this situation. > > Same thing often happens on SSB contests. > > Often the same happens with SSB on SSTV frequencies. > > Unfortunately its a fact of l;ife and we need to learn to deal with > it and gently educate those who break the gentlemans agreemnts and > iform people as some may not be aware. > > ES2DY > Andy > > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick Scott wrote: > > > > RUDE RTTY OPS DESTROYING QSOs on PSK > > > > Im going to post a HALL OF SHAME of these ops. > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: W9AV W3LL W7ZR
Andrew O'Brien wrote: > I worked the contest from Europe and in general the PSK frequencies > on 40m and 20m were left alone by the contesters. I agree it is > annoying sometimes if u dont want to work the contest and I am often > in this situation. I have no idea how things were in Europe. But from here on the West Coast of the USA, all of the 40 and 20M PSK freqs, and most of the CW freqs as well, were completely overrun by contesters. It was nearly impossible to operate digital other than in the contest. Nor did hardly anyone do so. The band plan went out the window. RTTY stations were even up around 14076.5-079.5. de Roger W6VZV
Re: [digitalradio] Re: W9AV W3LL W7ZR
I agree Andy. Today , while 20M was hot with the RTTY contest, many non-contesters moved down to 40M for digital QSOs. There are also the WARC bands when the digital contests use 80,40,20,15, and 10M. Andy K3UK On 1/7/07, Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I worked the contest from Europe and in general the PSK frequencies on 40m and 20m were left alone by the contesters. I agree it is annoying sometimes if u dont want to work the contest and I am often in this situation. Same thing often happens on SSB contests. Often the same happens with SSB on SSTV frequencies. Unfortunately its a fact of l;ife and we need to learn to deal with it and gently educate those who break the gentlemans agreemnts and iform people as some may not be aware. ES2DY Andy --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , Rick Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RUDE RTTY OPS DESTROYING QSOs on PSK > > Im going to post a HALL OF SHAME of these ops. > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com
[digitalradio] Re: W9AV W3LL W7ZR
I worked the contest from Europe and in general the PSK frequencies on 40m and 20m were left alone by the contesters. I agree it is annoying sometimes if u dont want to work the contest and I am often in this situation. Same thing often happens on SSB contests. Often the same happens with SSB on SSTV frequencies. Unfortunately its a fact of l;ife and we need to learn to deal with it and gently educate those who break the gentlemans agreemnts and iform people as some may not be aware. ES2DY Andy --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RUDE RTTY OPS DESTROYING QSOs on PSK > > Im going to post a HALL OF SHAME of these ops. > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
[digitalradio] Re: Your first ever PSK31 QSO?
Been tinkering with the idea of going PSK31, but just never had the chance to get one setup. Just like the CW mode I had planned to use it alot but since I travel alot, and don t carry a rig all the time. Makes it rather difficult at times. Just pruchased a Laptop and plan to buy a protable rig soon. Sounds like fun to me... Larry Fields,n6hpx n6hpx/du1 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When was your first ever PSK31 QSO ? Mine was April 19th , 1999 ... see below. > > > Andy, now K3UK. > > -- > > > fg5gi de kb2eoq kb2eoq kb2eoq > > KB2EOQ DE FG5GI RS 58 NAME ALAIN K > > hello Alain, wow this works ! my first psk31 qso bk to u. > > Congratulations, sure you send a bottle of champagne ! > my adresse in the call book k > > Champagne to Frenchman, never ! maybe some bourbon ! Name is Andy an > d the qth is Fredonia NY, you are 59+ bk > > > i wait a bottle ! your mod is not stable in phase ? have you good > schelded wire for > Tx ? k > > (KB2EOQ) just using old cable, not good shield, will get new cable tomorrow. > TNx for letting me know. will say 73 and get a better signal tomorrow. > 73 de kb2eoq sk > yes sure that will be better , remember the bottle > SALUT ANDY bonsoir sk > 73 and I'll send bottle. Bonsoir . > kb2eoq > > > -- > Andy K3UK > Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 > www.obriensweb.com >
Re: [digitalradio] Pactor versus Olivia
Andrew O'Brien wrote: > > I actually had my first Pactor QSO today, there was a ham calling CQ > on 40M Pactor 1 FEC. After working him via Pactor, we tried to > compare Olivia versus Pactor going down to 1 watt, both were 100% > copy. We were about 100 miles apart. > > -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 > www.obriensweb.com Pactor is a great keyboard-to-keyboard QSO and DX mode. My impression has been that it is as dead as Julius Caesar as such. I have not heard Pactor FEC in years. Good job and keep us posted if there is much qso/pactor activity. Maybe I'll take my old PTC-II out of mothballs, grin. de Roger W6VZV
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
There would be nothing illegal with operating RTTY or digital modes in the WARC bands and whether it is a contest or not would not enter in to it. Several of the international bodies have agreed to not recommend that contests occur on the WARC bands. I suppose with certain interpretations that we have been seeing recently from the FCC enforcement folks, they could use this as a claim against good amateur practice, but you would have to get someone to sponsor such a contest and thus far no one has done so. In terms of U.S. radio amateurs, it is strictly a gentleman's agreement to not contest on the WARC bands. I would prefer minimum control by government bureaucracies. I suppose we will be referring to these three bands as the WARC bands for a long time to come. Partly, because it is easy to lump them together for such things as no contesting on these bands. Otherwise, what would you call them? 73. Rick, KV9U Danny Douglas wrote: >Probably some of our new upgraded people who have no idea that contesting is >disallowed on the WARC bands. They will find out in one of two ways: They >will give a nice letter from the FCC, or the sponsor will disallow their >entry in the contest for illegal operations. > >Danny Douglas N7DC >ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA >SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all >DX 2-6 years each >. >QSL LOTW-buro- direct >As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you >use that - also pls upload to LOTW >or hard card. > >moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] >moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk > - Original Message - > From: F.R. Ashley > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M > > > Yes Russ but I also heard the USA contesters on 17 meters. The XT2 was > there but there were indeed some contesting going on. > > >
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
I am not so sure about that. When the WARC bands were approved, it was an IARL or ITU decision that they would not be used for contests, in order to allow the maximum numbers to enjoy the bands. By the way, why are we still calling them the WARC bands, its been a long time now, and there have been many international conferences since then? Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: "Rich Mulvey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M > Danny Douglas wrote: > > > > Probably some of our new upgraded people who have no idea that > > contesting is disallowed on the WARC bands. They will find out in one > > of two ways: They will give a nice letter from the FCC, or > > the sponsor will disallow their entry in the contest for illegal > > operations. > > > > > > The FCC doesn't care in the least whether there are contests on the WARC > bands. Restricting > contesters is from those bands is a gentleman's agreement, not a federal > regulation. > > - Rich > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007 7:47 PM > >
[digitalradio] Re: RTTY Contest on 17M
Or hopefully both Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Probably some of our new upgraded people who have no idea that contesting is disallowed on the WARC bands. They will find out in one of two ways: They will give a nice letter from the FCC, or the sponsor will disallow their entry in the contest for illegal operations. > > Danny Douglas N7DC
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
Danny Douglas wrote: > > Probably some of our new upgraded people who have no idea that > contesting is disallowed on the WARC bands. They will find out in one > of two ways: They will give a nice letter from the FCC, or > the sponsor will disallow their entry in the contest for illegal > operations. The FCC doesn't care in the least whether there are contests on the WARC bands. Restricting contesters is from those bands is a gentleman's agreement, not a federal regulation. - Rich
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
Roger, You are correct! I also heard the US hams in the contest on 17 meters. Also there was an XT2 on there but I did hear the US hams exchanging reports and contesting. 73 Buddy WB4M - Original Message - From: "Roger J. Buffington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M > There is heavy RTTY contesting on 17M; specifically around 18.105Mhz. I > had understood, perhaps incorrectly, that contesting was excluded from > the WARC bands. No? > > de Roger W6VZV > > - > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster > telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
If I am not mistaken I believe I read long ago that ARRL came out against use of WARC bands for ARRL sponsored contests. Charles, K0CW Robert Chudek - KØRC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Huh? I don't hear anyone on 18.105 MHz. But 20 and 15 meters are loaded with signals! 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN - Original Message - From: Roger J. Buffington To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:51 AM Subject: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M There is heavy RTTY contesting on 17M; specifically around 18.105Mhz. I had understood, perhaps incorrectly, that contesting was excluded from the WARC bands. No? de Roger W6VZV -
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
Probably some of our new upgraded people who have no idea that contesting is disallowed on the WARC bands. They will find out in one of two ways: They will give a nice letter from the FCC, or the sponsor will disallow their entry in the contest for illegal operations. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: F.R. Ashley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M Yes Russ but I also heard the USA contesters on 17 meters. The XT2 was there but there were indeed some contesting going on. 73 Buddy WB4M - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M Hi Roger, You are correct, there is no contesting on 17M or the other WARC bands. It's XT2C working split from Burkina Faso. 73 Russ WA3FRP -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007 7:47 PM
[digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia
Hi Andy, I listened for about 90 minutes - problem for me was that copy was too good (a rare compliant about that) - you and Craig we 100% print in all modes tried, even BPSK31. Was alot of fun following you two around and your use of the RS ID helped alot for when I was less than attentive to the mode chages. Thanks for the entertainment! 73 and be well; Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I actually had my first Pactor QSO today, there was a ham calling CQ > on 40M Pactor 1 FEC. After working him via Pactor, we tried to > compare Olivia versus Pactor going down to 1 watt, both were 100% > copy. We were about 100 miles apart. > > -- > Andy K3UK > Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 > www.obriensweb.com >
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
Yes Russ but I also heard the USA contesters on 17 meters. The XT2 was there but there were indeed some contesting going on. 73 Buddy WB4M - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M Hi Roger, You are correct, there is no contesting on 17M or the other WARC bands. It's XT2C working split from Burkina Faso. 73 Russ WA3FRP
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Roger, > > You are correct, there is no contesting on 17M or the other WARC > bands. > > It's XT2C working split from Burkina Faso. > > 73 Russ WA3FRP Great. Glad to be wrong about the contesting taking place on 17M. Hope lots of the fellows got some good DX then. de Roger W6VZV
[digitalradio] Pactor versus Olivia
I actually had my first Pactor QSO today, there was a ham calling CQ on 40M Pactor 1 FEC. After working him via Pactor, we tried to compare Olivia versus Pactor going down to 1 watt, both were 100% copy. We were about 100 miles apart. -- Andy K3UK Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73 www.obriensweb.com
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
Hi Roger, You are correct, there is no contesting on 17M or the other WARC bands. It's XT2C working split from Burkina Faso. 73 Russ WA3FRP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 10:51 AM Subject: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M There is heavy RTTY contesting on 17M; specifically around 18.105Mhz. I had understood, perhaps incorrectly, that contesting was excluded from the WARC bands. No? de Roger W6VZV - Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
Re: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
Huh? I don't hear anyone on 18.105 MHz. But 20 and 15 meters are loaded with signals! 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN - Original Message - From: Roger J. Buffington To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:51 AM Subject: [digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M There is heavy RTTY contesting on 17M; specifically around 18.105Mhz. I had understood, perhaps incorrectly, that contesting was excluded from the WARC bands. No? de Roger W6VZV -
[digitalradio] RTTY Contest on 17M
There is heavy RTTY contesting on 17M; specifically around 18.105Mhz. I had understood, perhaps incorrectly, that contesting was excluded from the WARC bands. No? de Roger W6VZV -
[digitalradio] Re:Your first ever PSK31 QSO?
Hi My first contact on PSK 31 was in 2 Feb 1999 UA4CJJ on 80m 73 Thanks Serge, RV3APM
Re: [digitalradio] Your first ever PSK31 QSO?
Hi Andy and Group, My first PSK QSO was with K0FJ.. on April 17, 1999 on 20 meters... just 2 days before your first PSK contact. I remember having to manually tune in the signal and being amazed at seeing the text print on the screen with almost no signal at all! 73 Buddy WB4M > When was your first ever PSK31 QSO ? Mine was April 19th , 1999 ... see > below. > > > Andy, now K3UK. > >
Re: [digitalradio] New to PSK31 - advice please ??
It depends on the location and the wires around. Your power lines might get loaded with RF, and conduct part of the radiated RF back into the shack. A power line filter and a good ground may take care of it. You don't want to fight the RF current, just attenuate it enough, so an L input filter is recommended. I usually include such a filter in all the low voltage power supplies I build. The interface with two transformers and isolated grounds is a good idea. I built one with scrounged transformers and an optocoupler. It is a good idea not only for avoiding ground loops, but for avoiding thunder induced damage as well, which is pretty common in a tropical place like mine. Once I had to change the cable of an old (still alive) keyboard to use shielded audio cable. A 0.1 uF + 10 uF tantalium capacitor in parallel did the rest of the cleaning in the +5V inside the keyboard. I used a 5 pin audio DIN connector to plug it into the motherboard. I am not advicing you to do anything you are uncomfortable to do, I am only telling what I have done to have up to 400 watts packet on the air. Hope it helps, Jose, CO2JA adrianrav4 wrote: > > Hi All > Having just moved house (& country!), and set up the HF radio gear for > the first time in quite a few years - I'm having a dabble with PSK31. > > I suspect that I'm having problems with poor isolation between the > radio and the PC - at the moment the 'quickly knocked-up' interface is > 'direct' - no opto or transformer isolation. > I can read the PSK31 quite nicely (using DigiPan) - and load up the TX > on low power (10W) - but higher TX power seems to generate odd squeaks > and general instability > ...also - I have yet to get a reply from any other station on PSK - > which makes me wonder if my signal's getting distorted past the point > of readability ? > > Does anybody have a source for 1:1 audio isolation transformers ? I > can't seem to find them from the usual suspects (ebay, CPC...?) - > would need to be an organisation that ships to Ireland. > > Many thanks in advance > Adrian - EI5JV
