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[digitalradio] jt65a
well Bonnie...i would guess that a human being could be considered automatic a guaranteed response no matter what it receives. david/wd4kpd
[digitalradio] DM-780
Andy, Very impressed with Digital Master 780. I think Simon did a wonderful job with this software and it must have taken lots of man hours to get this far. The layout is very nice, especially the logbook, browser, mode selection and macros. It certainly seems to have everything the digtial op would want and then some. Thanks Simon... Tony, K2MO
[digitalradio] Wiki FCC
After looking at the article about NZ allowing people to suggest the wording of local laws (see below), how about one in the USA where we can do the same for a re-write of hand radio laws ? Andy. NZ police let public write laws "Self-policing" should correct any corrupting entries New Zealanders have been given the chance to write their own laws, with a new online tool launched by police. The "wiki" will allow the public to suggest the wording of a new police act, as part of a government review of the current law, written in 1958. Police say they hope to gain a range of views from the public on the new law before presenting it to parliament. The wiki, one of the first of its kind in the world, is open to any internet user, police say. 'Wiki sandbox' The wiki is the latest round of public consultation in the 18-month review of the 50-year-old law. Launching a wiki version of a statute is a novel move, but one we hope will yield a range of views from people interested in having a direct say on the shape of a new Policing Act Supt Hamish McCardle, New Zealand police The officer in charge of the review, Supt Hamish McCardle, described the site as "similar to a whiteboard" and said it was open to anyone who wanted to have their say on the new law. It even includes a "wiki sandbox" that lets nervous newcomers practise their posting. The final document will be given to a parliamentary committee in 2008 to be considered with other information gathered during the review period. "Launching a wiki version of a statute is a novel move, but one we hope will yield a range of views from people interested in having a direct say on the shape of a new Policing Act," Supt McCardle said. Aaron Smith - from the US-based Pew Internet Project, which studies the evolution of internet uses - told the BBC News website that the wiki was a new frontier in online government. "You see a lot of government sites worldwide allowing for various feedback mechanisms... but in terms of bringing this to the public in the form of writing laws, that's obviously a different thing entirely and something that we certainly haven't seen yet," Mr Smith said. He said any possible corrupting of the process should be reduced by the "self-policing" nature of wikis. "It would certainly be difficult for people to put in bogus information... without people recognising that fact and the community of users correcting that before the finished product is completed," he said. A "wiki" - from the Hawaiian word for "quick" - is a type of website that can be easily edited by anyone. The most well-known wiki is the online encyclopaedia Wikipedia. -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ)
Re: [digitalradio] Wiki FCC
At 07:35 PM 9/26/2007, you wrote: >After looking at the article about NZ allowing people to suggest the >wording of local laws (see below), how about one in the USA where we >can do the same for a re-write of hand radio laws ? Wont work here. To many have their own "idea" of being " PC " That will get most of us that know better hurt or killed.
[digitalradio] 20M Half-square ?
Please forgive the non-digital post, I posted on a general reflector and received no replies. I'm thinking about a half-square antenna for 20M. I had read in the past that these antennas work well on "the low bands" but there was a question about their effectiveness on 20M. Any comments ? It would seem like a good DX antenna for digital modes like Olivia, JT65A, and PSK 125. -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ)
[digitalradio] Re: jt65a is an automatic mode
Hello Bonnie, Not sure I proved anything :) If I fall asleep on my keyer is that an unattended CW mode? If I leave my vox on and background noise keys the xmitter is that an "attended SSB mode"? What is at issue is *intentional* automatic modes, not my cat stepping on the ptt. JT65 is not an automatic or semi-automatic mode in any sense of the definition. 73 and be well, Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "expeditionradio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bill N9DSJ wrote: > > I would be hard pressed to > > fit JT modes into any definition of "unattended", "semi- automatic" > > or "automatic" operation. > > Hi Bill, > > You proved my point that what we now consider just a normal feature of > software or radio operation, is something that we once considered > "automatic" before. > > JT65A may certainly be operated in an automated way. > > The operator can program specific transmissions that happen by > computer control, on a time schedule. > > The transmissions happen regardless of other traffic on the channel. > > The transmissions may be in responses to specific calls or sequences > of other stations. > > Case closed. > > Bonnie KQ6XA >
[digitalradio] Re: jt65a is an automatic mode
> Bill N9DSJ wrote: > JT65 is not an automatic or semi-automatic mode in any sense of the > definition. Bill, JT65a is certainly an automatic mode. It is as automatic as any other automatic system. It perfectly fits the definitions of automatic in both the strictest sense and in many other ways, figuratively, literally and as used in RF communications: 1. It has an "AUTOMATIC" button. 2. The operator programs the software to transmit, and it starts sending various transmissions automatically. 3. It responds automatically to other stations with pre-programmed sequences. 4. It automatically logs other stations. 5. It automatically sends and receives a series of canned QSOs. 6. It automatically send CQs every minute. 7. It sends confirmations automatically. 8. It automatically tunes and prints stations in that may be off frequency. 9. It automatically QSOs with other stations using JT65A while automatically ignoring any other mode that may be on the same channel. 10. It transmits automatically various transmissions repeatedly or according to a programmed schedule until it is released by the operator. 11. The operator does not need to be present for the completion of a QSO... hit the AUTO button, walk away, and come back later to view the confirmation of your automatic QSO. 12. It sometimes even automatically receives calls, where none really existed, depending on how "automatic" it is programmed to be :) As you can see by the above examples, JT65A certainly fits the definition of automatic. So, Bill, there's no reason to deny that JT65A is a wonderful automatic mode. It's one of the best weak signal QSO modes to come along. The fact that JT65A is automatic is nothing to be ashamed of. Definition of Automatic Main Entry: au·to·mat·ic Pronunciation: "o-t&-'ma-tik Function: adjective Etymology: Greek automatos self-acting 1. done or produced as if by machine : MECHANICAL 2. having a self-acting or self-regulating mechanism 3. of a firearm : firing repeatedly until the trigger is released 73 Bonnie KQ6XA
[digitalradio] Re: jt65a is an automatic mode
*confused look* --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "expeditionradio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill N9DSJ wrote: > > JT65 is not an automatic or semi-automatic mode in any sense of the > > definition. > > Bill, > > JT65a is certainly an automatic mode. > It is as automatic as any other automatic system. Department of Redundancy Department > It perfectly fits the definitions of automatic in both the strictest > sense and in many other ways, figuratively, literally and as used in > RF communications: > > 1. It has an "AUTOMATIC" button. So does my dishwasher; think the issue at hand is not as simple. > 2. The operator programs the software to transmit, and it starts > sending various transmissions automatically. The operator keys it to transmit and it sends a message under local operator control. > 3. It responds automatically to other stations with pre-programmed > sequences. No, it does not. It does not transmit without an operator initiating the transmit sequence. It does not respond automatically to other stations as you well know. > 4. It automatically logs other stations. In a sense..it listens :) > 5. It automatically sends and receives a series of canned QSOs. It sends macros when the control operator tells it to; as does my cw keyer..not sure it matters what it receives. > 6. It automatically send CQs every minute. No it does not, know of no others that do so without operator intervention. You must have yours horridly mis-configured or hacked. > 7. It sends confirmations automatically. No it does not. You must have yours horridly mis-configured or hacked. > 8. It automatically tunes and prints stations in that may be off > frequency. It decodes other signals within its passband, same for a human op using CW given a good ear. Actually Multipsk and others decode psk31/63, CW and RTTY within the passband too. This is in receive mode so hence not sure it is what the controversy it about. > 9. It automatically QSOs with other stations using JT65A while > automatically ignoring any other mode that may be on the same >channel. No it does not. > 10. It transmits automatically various transmissions repeatedly or > according to a programmed schedule until it is released by the operator. It is under local operator control, you are correct in that. > 11. The operator does not need to be present for the completion of a > QSO... hit the AUTO button, walk away, and come back later to view the > confirmation of your automatic QSO. Incorrect; really Bonnie, you have used jt65A and know better...there is no way to "walk away, and come back later to view the confirmation of your automatic QSO" unless you mean only seeing a final "73" or "rrr" sequence later much the same as rtty or any other digital mode, if anyone that has ever used JT65 can explain this, I am all ears > 12. It sometimes even automatically receives calls, where none really > existed, depending on how "automatic" it is programmed to be :) Turn of the deep search option, Bonnie, will kill the bogus decodes. > As you can see by the above examples, JT65A certainly fits the > definition of automatic. Actually no, I cannot see that. But is it an *intentionally* unattended/automatic mode that reponds to queries? Is that not the question at issue? > So, Bill, there's no reason to deny that JT65A is a wonderful > automatic mode. Only reason might be the facts. > It's one of the best weak signal QSO modes to come >along. The fact that JT65A is automatic is nothing to be ashamed of. Is not automatic, so hence no shame involved :) And even if it were, do you equate shame to automatic modes? > Definition of Automatic > Main Entry: au·to·mat·ic > Pronunciation: "o-t&-'ma-tik > Function: adjective > Etymology: Greek automatos self-acting > 1. done or produced as if by machine : MECHANICAL automatic> > 2. having a self-acting or self-regulating mechanism transmission> > 3. of a firearm : firing repeatedly until the trigger is released no no no "firing repeatedly until the trigger is released" And perhaps at the root, not "self-acting" which is the core etymology. BTW, I have no problems with the automatic, semi-automatic or unattended stations in of of itself. > 73 Bonnie KQ6XA Be well Bonnie, 73 Bill N9DSJ
