Re: [digitalradio] RFI-Free PCs?

2008-03-22 Thread Bill Turner
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:17:22 -0400, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Need to replace the PC in the shack and would like to find something 
that's RFI-free out of the box. 

 REPLY FOLLOWS 

What kind of RFI? RFI caused by the computer and picked up by your
receiver or RFI caused by your transmitter and picked up by your
computer?

A couple of general observations: The first kind is caused mostly by the
monitor, not the computer. Going to an LCD monitor, as you are, will
cure most of that kind. The second is more difficult, but try to have
the computer and transmitter physically close together with the two
chassis bonded together with a short ground wire. Without that bonding
wire, your interconnecting wiring creates a sort of small loop antenna.
The bonding wire shorts it out. 

And best of all, if you can, is keep your antenna as far away from your
equipment as possible, and use coax feedline instead of open wire. Use a
balun at the junction of antenna and feedline to prevent current from
flowing on the outside of the coax. Such current flows as a result of
unbalance in the antenna system and is a major cause of RF-in-the-shack
syndrome, which in turn is a major cause of computer RFI.

73, Bill W6WRT





Re: [digitalradio] RFI-Free PCs?

2008-03-22 Thread Rodney
Bill,

I haven't been following this thread, but THANKS!  You've answered several 
questions that I had!

Now I have a question:

I have an 11-meter rig in my shack (Sorry guys, but I started in CB LONG before 
I became a Ham and that was in 1981) that has HALF SCALE noise!  I also have 
the same problem with my 10-meter rig!  So basically, they are both useless!

I've turned off all my cordless phones, computers and anything else I can think 
of that would cause this, but it still exists.

I live in a residential area so there are houses all around me.  I'm HOPING 
that the problem is in MY house and not in someone else's house, that way I can 
locate and fix the problem!

Any ideas on WHAT could be generating this noise?

Rod
KC7CJO



Bill Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ORIGINAL 
MESSAGE:
 
 On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:17:22 -0400, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Need to replace the PC in the shack and would like to find something 
 that's RFI-free out of the box. 
 
  REPLY FOLLOWS 
 
 What kind of RFI? RFI caused by the computer and picked up by your
 receiver or RFI caused by your transmitter and picked up by your
 computer?
 
 A couple of general observations: The first kind is caused mostly by the
 monitor, not the computer. Going to an LCD monitor, as you are, will
 cure most of that kind. The second is more difficult, but try to have
 the computer and transmitter physically close together with the two
 chassis bonded together with a short ground wire. Without that bonding
 wire, your interconnecting wiring creates a sort of small loop antenna.
 The bonding wire shorts it out. 
 
 And best of all, if you can, is keep your antenna as far away from your
 equipment as possible, and use coax feedline instead of open wire. Use a
 balun at the junction of antenna and feedline to prevent current from
 flowing on the outside of the coax. Such current flows as a result of
 unbalance in the antenna system and is a major cause of RF-in-the-shack
 syndrome, which in turn is a major cause of computer RFI.
 
 73, Bill W6WRT
 
 
 
   

   
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[digitalradio] Re: RFI-Free PCs?

2008-03-22 Thread jhaynesatalumni
I agree on building your own PC.  I built one using a cheapie
case and power supply and it was pretty quiet.  So I ordered
another case and power supply, same catalog number from the
same supplier, and what came was a bit different.  The power
supply was the worst broad-band noise generator I have ever met,
even when the computer was turned off.  I've been told that
Antec makes good power supplies and boxes.

On the other problem, high noise on CB and 10 meters, I've found
that a battery-operated portable shortwave receiver is a great
tool.  I had a lot of trouble at first with power line noise.
The power company was cooperative but not very skilled in
finding it.  I could walk around with the battery receiver and
find the noise hot spots and then they could find the faulty
line hardware.

I read somewhere that your house is a high noise zone, and if you
get about 15 feet away things get much quieter.  I haven't yet
got around to trying that with the portable SW receiver.  I'm
told that even wall-wart power supplies these days generate RF
noise.  Touch lamps are known to be a bad source of noise.  One
of my friends says to turn off Everything in the house, unplug
all the wall warts, and see what kind of noise you have, and then
put things back on one-by-one.





Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 Testing 3584kc USB

2008-03-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker

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your callsign list:
- Write VE5MU in the edit label where it is written Call
- click on the buttonAdd this call to the list
- click on the button Lits up-to-date

Select VE5MU in the addressee list (combobox),
Write a message in the ARQ FAE mail to send.
Click on the button Send mail (+ file) and let the program send automatically 
the mail to John (abandon after one minute in case of poor propagation).

There is a Word document which goal is to show from Multipsk snapshots how to 
do the basic operations in ALE and ALE400. This document (1.1 Mo) is available 
from my site site 
http://f6cte.free.fr/ALE_and_ALE400_easy_with_Multipsk.doc; (copy and paste 
this adress in Internet Explorer (or equivalent) Net adress field). 

73
Patrick

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  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 5:23 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] ALE400 Testing 3584kc USB



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[digitalradio] Whispering on 30m captured in Norway

2008-03-22 Thread Steinar Aanesland

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[digitalradio] NEW GUI version of WSPR just released

2008-03-22 Thread Andrew O'Brien
New GUI-based version 0.4 of WSPR now available at
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/


-- 
Andy K3UK
www.obriensweb.com
(QSL via N2RJ)


Re: [digitalradio] NEW GUI version of WSPR just released

2008-03-22 Thread Steinar Aanesland

Hi

Strange, I got this message  msvcr71.dll could not be extracted! when I
try to execute the program.

73 de LA5VNA Steinar



Andrew O'Brien skrev:

 New GUI-based version 0.4 of WSPR now available at
 http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ 
 http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/

 -- 
 Andy K3UK
 www.obriensweb.com
 (QSL via N2RJ)

 
 

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[digitalradio] ZF2NU DXpedition (all next week)

2008-03-22 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr.
We will be QRV on Grand Cayman Island starting Easter Monday for one week.
We plan to operate digital modes using fldigi and an Elecraft K3/100 to a 
Cushcraft R6 20-6 and a long-wire on on 40m.

More details and QRV schedules for other events linked from

  http://www.QRZ.com/ZF2NU

We will be doing casual PSK31 operations, but are especially seeking MFSK16 
photo mode contacts so we can send beach photos, so please read up on how your 
program does it:

fldigi: http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/MFSKpix.html
MultiPSK:   http://f6cte.free.fr/SSTV_IN_MFSK16_EASY_WITH_MULTIPSK.doc
Mixw/other: http://www.projectsandparts.com/lastsunday/mfsk16.html
 http://www.obriensweb.com/narrowsstv.htm (search for MFSK16 with 
pictures)

Other operators: ZF2IM, ZF2UU, ZF2BE

73 es CU,
Leigh/WA5ZNU




[digitalradio] Unstable WSPR on 10.140.040

2008-03-22 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi all,

Some one is trying to transmit in wspr on 10.140.040 but the signal is 
not able to decode because it is too unstable . It looks like a banana .

And please qsy  above 10.140.100. The signal is in the visual qrss segment.

73 de LA5VNA Steinar



Re: [digitalradio] RFI-Free PCs?

2008-03-22 Thread Russell Hltn
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've turned off all my cordless phones, computers and anything else I can
 think of that would cause this, but it still exists.

 I live in a residential area so there are houses all around me.  I'm HOPING
 that the problem is in MY house and not in someone else's house, that way I
 can locate and fix the problem!


The first step is to power your radio from a battery.  If doing so
cuts the noise, then the noise is traveling up the power cord to the
receiver.  A noise filter on the AC line will help.

Once the radio is battery powered, then go and cut the main power to
the house.  That will tell you if the problem is in your house or not.

These days, most any kind of device that plugs in can be the culprit.
It doesn't have to use RF (like cordless phone, etc.)


Re: [digitalradio] RFI-Free PCs?

2008-03-22 Thread Bill Turner
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:25:34 -0700 (PDT), Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Any ideas on WHAT could be generating this noise?

 REPLY FOLLOWS 

There are many possibilities. One of the strangest I personally ran
across was a battery charger for an electric golf cart at a neighbors
house about 300 feet away. Wiped out 40 meters intermittently as it
cycled on and off. This was a tricky one because it mostly was off.

Regardless, the best thing is to track it down using your CB radio. One
by one, turn off the circuit breakers in your house. Hopefully, the
noise will quit when you get the right one. If you get down to the last
breaker (the one the CB radio is on), power it up with a battery and
turn off the last breaker. Obviously, if the noise remains, it isn't
your house. Next, start snooping around the neighborhood with your
battery powered CB. You don't need a real antenna, just a short piece of
wire in the antenna jack. When you get really close to the noise source
and the noise gets really loud, shorten it up some more. With this
method, you should be able to track it down in a matter of minutes,
maybe an hour. 

If you find it is from a neighbor's house, knock on the door and tell
him what you are doing. Ask him if he has been having any interference
himself and offer to help find the cause. He probably has been having
some and if you present yourself correctly, he will probably be quite
eager to help. 

Good luck.

73, Bill W6WRT