[digitalradio] Re: WSPR New Digital Mode - QSO Completed
I'm puzzled. When I checked the link, it seems WSPR is some kind of automatic RX/TX connection reporting mode - Just reports what other WSPR stations it sees. That is, there is no back and forth QSO like PSK31 and others. Did you actually have a QSO - chat back and forth - with this mode or was your QSO just and automatice send/heard connection? Thank you and 73, Paul --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mark Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WSPR QSO Completed WSPR is a new digital mode that hams have been experimenting with on HF and VHF bands over the last few months. Joe Taylor K1JT has been the driving force behind this weak signal development.
Re: [digitalradio] PSK31...but I know that already...
While I mostly read what is being sent, I am usually starting to prepare a response during the other person's transmission so I can get out of synch with what they are writing. But it does speed up the exchanges, since I am often able to get the type ahead buffer full enough that when it is time to send, I can continue to keyboard and stay ahead of the speed of a mode running ~ 40 wpm for long enough that it will be time to turn it over to the other station by the time it catches up with me. At 30 and especially at 20 wpm, it rarely can catch up with my keyboard speed since I can maintain an average of close to 40 wpm after removing the many typos. So I do not have any macros with the wx, rig, antenna, computer, etc. Instead, I have only a few macros with CQ, SK, and him de me ... and the appropriate RX and TX rig control commands as needed. But in talking with other hams, many of them have extremely limited keyboarding skills and may be hunt and peck typists. Therefore, they use macros for almost all of their keyboard communication. If they did not have macros, a number of them likely would not ever use digital keyboard modes at all. Several local hams have told me that the main reason they don't use digital keyboard modes is because they do not know how to type at all or are so limited that it is not a pleasant activity for them. By the way, I have also tried to get new hams with Technician class licenses to consider operating CW (even if computer generated/decoded) on 80/40/15 and even digital on 10 meters, with absolutely no luck at all. Even though computer received CW is not very good compared with human decoding, with good signals they could use high speeds and perhaps work more distant stations. But they really don't seem to have this interest. Same thing with them not buying multi-mode/multiband rigs. I recently heard a newer ham discuss that he might buy a quad band FM rig. This rig was in the ~ $400 range of cost. For a bit more, or a used rig, he could have a multi-band/multimode rig that would have tremendously more value now and later on if they upgrade. And the quad bander has minimal value for 6 meter FM if there are no repeaters in the area, and has zero value for a Technician class licensee on 10 meters since they can't even use that mode on that band. So I don't understand the attraction for these kinds of rigs. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: I am reminded or Peter Martinez's original goal when he invented PSK31, that it become a conversational mode. Lately the use of macros , even among hams that speak the same language, has reach interesting heights. I am not convinced that many hams actually read what is coming back to them.
Re: [digitalradio] PSK31...but I know that already...
Rick W. wrote: By the way, I have also tried to get new hams with Technician class licenses to consider operating CW (even if computer generated/decoded) on 80/40/15 and even digital on 10 meters, with absolutely no luck at all... Same thing with them not buying multi-mode/multiband rigs. Good points all. I always encourage the multi-mode rigs if their finances allow it. Not only can they do more with their Technician license but it lets them receive and experience so much more of what Amateur Radio has to offer. I think this is one of the best ways to encourage upgrades. Tim N9PUZ
[digitalradio] APRS HF Net
- Forwarded Message From: g0jxn.jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Illinoisdigitalham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:16:31 AM Subject: [illinoisdigitalham] APRS HF Net Hi Guys Despite my proposed World Wide APRS HF Net apparently not generating much interest, several friends and I are launching it on 3rd June 2008. Setup is detailed on my web site www.bandscommunications.co.uk under the ‘aprs hf net’ tab. If you would like to be kept informed of progress please email me and I’ll put you on the mailing list. 73 Jim, G0JXN
[digitalradio] Re PSK 31 But I know that already
It was interesting reading the transcript of a fictitious PSK contact, its quite obvious that if many contacts are similar to that one they are quite a bit different to those in Europe. I suppose I could say that we are more formal and informative because the response will be, DL0ZZZ de G0GQK Hello Bill, nice to see you on 15 metres today. Your signal report is 5/9 My name is Mel and the QTH is Newport in Shropshire England, IARU locator IO 82 TS, and EPC #1803. OK Bill to you from Mel G0GQK in Newport BTU. Quick and informative. The required station information is sent first time, there is no requirement for someone to ask for a repeat of name or QTH because this information is sent twice on the first over if QSB causes problems. I've noticed when I've had contacts with US stations that there is a preamble which doesn't occur in Europe because most operators speak English only as a second language. When QSB has been severe the preamble can be the cause of information not being passed successfully and I have experienced situations where the station has vanished into the aether, with me knowing its cold in Boston, but not knowing the fella's name ! So I have to look in QRZ.com Best wishes and kind regards, Mel G0GQK
[digitalradio] CW - last resort?
Here's some food for thought for digimode only ops. DE NNN0ASA ZUJ CMB06-08: RR NOALL DE NNN0ASA 050 R 292200Z MAY 2008 FM CHNAVMARCORMARS WILLIAMSBURG VA TO ALNAVMARCORMARS INFO ZEN/CHIEF ARMY MARS FT HUACHUCA AZ ZEN/CHIEF AIR FORCE MARS SCOTT AFB IL BT UNCLAS SUBJ: CHNAVMARCORMARS BCST 06-08 A. DRAFT RADIOTELEGRAPH PROCEDURES 1. WHEN I ASSUMED THE CHIEF, NAVMARCORMARS POSITION IN NOVEMBER, 1997, WE WERE MORE THAN A YEAR INTO THE DOD MANDATED BAN ON CW ON MARS FREQUENCIES. A. SINCE THAT TIME THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION HAS, IN STEPS, ELIMINATED THE MORSE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR AN AMATEUR LICENSE. ALL EMERGENCY COMMUNICATORS KNOW THAT WHEN VOICE AND OTHER DIGITAL MODES SLOW TO A CRAWL OR BECOME UNUSABLE, CW CAN STILL BE USED. B. I REMEMBER THE NORTHEAST ICE STORM SHORTLY AFTER I BECAME CHIEF AND THE UNNECESSARILY LENGTHY EFFORT BY ALL OF SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND TO RECEIVE ONE VOICE EEI FROM A NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND MEMBER WHOSE ANTENNA WAS COVERED IN ICE AND LYING ON THE GROUND. IT TOOK OVER AN HOUR WHEN CW COULD HAVE HANDLED IT IN A FEW MINUTES. C. AS MORE AND MORE OF OUR MEMBERS ENTER MARS WITH NO MORSE CODE EXPERIENCE, I AM AFRAID THAT WE WILL SOON LOSE THAT SKILL SET IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING. 2. IN VIEW OF THE ABOVE AND EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, AREA AND REGION DIRECTORS ARE AUTHORIZED TO ESTABLISH CW TRAINING AND TRAFFIC NETS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE AREAS AND REGIONS. ALL STATE DIRECTORS ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO BEGIN CONDUCTING TRAINING IN CW ON THEIR TRAFFIC AND TRAINING NETS. 3. SINCE THE RADIOTELEGRAPH PROCEDURES WERE ELIMINATED BEFORE TEH PUBLICATION OF NTP 8(C), REF A WILL BE POSTED UNDER THE DOCUMENTS TAB ON THE NATIONAL WEB PAGE SOON. USE THESE DRAFT PROCEDURES UNTIL A FINAL TRI-SERVICE MARS PROCEDURE FOR RADIOTELEGRAPH IS DEVELOPED AND PROMULGATED. 4. MARS: TOGETHER WE CAN ACHIEVE ANYTHING. BT DE NNN0ASA QRU AR (taken from a post by K4OSO on the FISTS reflector) 73 Sholto KE7HPV.
