[digitalradio] Re: 1000 Hz Olivia under USA new rules ?

2009-02-12 Thread Tooner
whatever came of this?



[digitalradio] Re: on 14.109 USB all day (Q15X25)

2009-02-12 Thread expeditionradio
 Howard K5HB
 BTW, I was one of the stations experimenting 
 with Q25.  So far it did not work very well. 

So, tell me, Howard... when did you stop QRM'ing the net?

73 Bonnie KQ6XA



RE: [digitalradio] Re: on 14.109 USB all day (Q15X25) - please read about FEC ..

2009-02-12 Thread John Bradley
Lately there has been a great deal of OLIVIA activity on 80M in the
evenings, the other night I found 4 or 5 QSO's going on aty the same time

using 500/16

 

Think you are right that these modes will become used a little more as the
cycle changes. The great part about cycle are the number of modes

which have been developed to try to offset the bad conditions

 

John

VE5MU

 



Re: [digitalradio] Re: on 14.109 USB all day (Q15X25)

2009-02-12 Thread Howard Brown
You are joking, right?  We are having a QSO, you come on and transmit at the 
same time we are, and you claim we are causing QRM for you?  You are also a 
WL2K fan, right?

Howard K5HB





From: expeditionradio expeditionra...@yahoo.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:27:39 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: on 14.109 USB all day (Q15X25)


 Howard K5HB
 BTW, I was one of the stations experimenting 
 with Q25.  So far it did not work very well. 

So, tell me, Howard... when did you stop QRM'ing the net?

73 Bonnie KQ6XA


   

[digitalradio] Re: on 14.109 USB all day (Q15X25) - please read about FEC ..

2009-02-12 Thread Traveler
What worldwide ECOMM is going on right now, that 14.109 must be set aside for 
just ALE? None that I know of. 

I understand a need for ecomm's, but please to say a certain freq is just for 
ecomm is a little out there, if there is no emergencies going on but wait maybe 
with the fires in VK land, then are using MT63 instead of ALE so maybe ALE 
needs to be shut down.

Kurt


  


Re: [digitalradio] Re: 1000 Hz Olivia under USA new rules ?

2009-02-12 Thread Rick W
What further information did you need, Tooner? There is no conflict with 
using wide modes (FCC defined as up to the bandwidth of a communications 
quality phone transmission) as long as the baud rate of an individual 
tone does not exceed 300 baud.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Tooner wrote:
 whatever came of this?


   



[digitalradio] The experiment is over

2009-02-12 Thread maiko4
Good morning to all,

I should know better than to post this, but I'm going to anyways.

Had I known this was going to cause such an uproar, I never would
have posted the fact that I was sitting on 14.109 USB, waiting for
people to connect to my fully attended station. It was just sitting
there doing (more or less) nothing. No one connected anyways.

I've been around long enough to know all about NET 103, NET 109,
and so on. Remember when 14.109 was *reserved* just for 300 Baud
packet forwarding ? That's funny come to think of it.

If I need a test, I'll make a general post asking people to contact
me off list, and we'll make sure to stay off *standard* frequencies.

The good thing about this whole exercise is that I now know who
some of the *players* are. Thanks for trying this out folks. You
know where I am if you want to try something. My contact info
is on my web page.

Maiko Langelaar / VE4KLM

* http://www.langelaar.net/projects/jnos2





[digitalradio] QSX 14.109 Q25

2009-02-12 Thread rich3x
All:

QSX 14.109  w/beacon every 5 min.
FEC type (15,5)\

Rich/N2JR  FM18



Re: [digitalradio] QSX 14.109 Q25 (Rich)

2009-02-12 Thread Russell Blair
Rich, sorry I didnt see you had connected to me , but I can here you beacon at 
times, a lot of qsb on my end. NC5O / EM12px
 
Russell


 
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--- On Thu, 2/12/09, rich3x r...@comcast.net wrote:

From: rich3x r...@comcast.net
Subject: [digitalradio] QSX 14.109 Q25
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 1:11 PM






All:

QSX 14.109 w/beacon every 5 min.
FEC type (15,5)\

Rich/N2JR FM18

















  

[digitalradio] Moderator : Re: on 14.109 USB all day (Q15X25) - please read about FEC ..

2009-02-12 Thread Andy obrien
OK, I read the entire thread (despite being awy from the PC most of the past
week)  just to make sure that each post was in keeping with our rules.  It
seems that everyone was respectful, thanks.  I think the issue has run its
course, so please avoid letting this turn in to a thread that becomes
circular.

Thanks.

Andy K3UK
Owner


On 2/12/09, Traveler sgttutt2...@yahoo.com wrote:

   What worldwide ECOMM is going on right now, that 14.109 must be set
 aside for just ALE? None that I know of.

 I understand a need for ecomm's, but please to say a certain freq is just
 for ecomm is a little out there, if there is no emergencies going on but
 wait maybe with the fires in VK land, then are using MT63 instead of ALE so
 maybe ALE needs to be shut down.

 Kurt

 



[digitalradio] A little off topic - rotator bolt - SNAP!

2009-02-12 Thread Tony
All, 

I know this is a little off topic (forgive me Andy) but with the high winds 
we've been having, I thought it was worth mentioning. 

We had wind gusts over 50 MPH today and they were strong enough to snap the 
mast pin on my rotator. The tower was cranked all the way down at the time. 

The antennas stood pretty much within 90 degrees azimuth so the mast didn't 
spin enough to twist and damage anything else. 

Something as simple as looping a rope around the boom of the antenna to keep it 
from moving would have prevented this from happening. I did this a few years 
ago when we had 70 MPH winds and all was ok. 

This seems to be the best solution for those with crank-up towers; even roof 
mounted quad-pods with rotators. Wish I would have followed my own advise this 
time; live and learn. 

Tony - K2MO





[digitalradio] Yet Another Newcomer to digital

2009-02-12 Thread Daniel Boese
Hello, all (or CQ, if you prefer);

I'm still fairly inexperienced at the whole amateur radio thing - so
far, I have my basic license and a VHF handheld. I'd like to start
exploring digital modes, and am hoping that you might be able to
suggest what sort of rig would work well for that.

I do have two limitations, though; I live in what's effectively a
ground-floor apartment, and am thus limited in what sort of antenna I
can put on my patio; and have a somewhat limited budget - call it
US$500 at the outside, and preferably less, if possible. Given that,
does it seem feasible to start getting involved in this aspect of ham,
or should I focus my attention elsewhere?


Thank you for your time,
--
Daniel Boese VA3BOS, FN03ie
I believe that it is better to tell the truth than to lie. I believe
that it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe that it
is better to know than be ignorant. - H. L. Mencken



[digitalradio] Re: A little off topic - rotator bolt - SNAP!

2009-02-12 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Sorry to hear your news Tony.  

I had 60 MPH winds and lost 2 antennae, both hombrewed so I can
rebuild. We have exceeded 200 inches of snow so far this winter, most
of it hard packed on my roof over December-February.  The warm spell
caused a mini avalanche off my roof in to my driveway on Tuesday,
$3000 of damage to my van !

Tuesday the van, Wednesday the wire antennas.  Life in the snow belt.

Andy K3UK

-- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote:

 All, 
 
 I know this is a little off topic (forgive me Andy) but with the
high winds we've been having, I thought it was worth mentioning. 
 
 We had wind gusts over 50 MPH today and they were strong enough to
snap the mast pin on my rotator. The tower was cranked all the way
down at the time. 
 
 The antennas stood pretty much within 90 degrees azimuth so the mast
didn't spin enough to twist and damage anything else. 
 
 Something as simple as looping a rope around the boom of the antenna
to keep it from moving would have prevented this from happening. I did
this a few years ago when we had 70 MPH winds and all was ok. 
 
 This seems to be the best solution for those with crank-up towers;
even roof mounted quad-pods with rotators. Wish I would have followed
my own advise this time; live and learn. 
 
 Tony - K2MO





[digitalradio] Re: Yet Another Newcomer to digital

2009-02-12 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Hi Daniel, welcome neighbour... I am just about 40 miles from you,

If you are planning just to do the VHF band, you are kinda limited . 
There is not a whole of digital mode activity on VHF other than packet
radio, mostly APRS.  There are a few people that try digital modes
like PSK on 2 meters SSB but openings are few and  far between. There
are also some people that use JT6M and FSK440 on 2m for meteor scatter
, but high gain 2 meter antennas are the norm for meteor work.  Your
handheld is likely FM mode only, most people use SSB for RTTY, PSK31,
and more.

APRS and packet via your handheld is quite feasible , Southern Ontario
has a lot of activity.  A simple vertical for 2 meters on youe patio
would work quite well.


If you try six meters, there is more activity mostly PSK31 but again
you are subject to days at a time where the band may not open beyond
your local region.

If you are able to get HF privelges, you can do lot.  If your patio is
small, you could build a low profile vertical that could work on 10
meters of 15 meters.  As these bands open up more in the next year or
so, you can work many digital modes and work around the world.

If you have a few hundred dollars in you budget, I suggest you work
towards the HF privileges and put most of the money in to a used HF
rig.  You may be able to get something for US$300 and certainly for
US$400.  A Kenwood TS440 or Icom 735 may be something to look around
for.  You can build a basic antenna for your patio for $25.00

The general requirements to get on the digital modes are...

radio with SSB, one that is stable and has digital readout.
A PC with a soundcard.
Simple cables to connect your PC to the radio
An interface that enables software control of your rig and reduces
ground loops.  
The cables and interface can usually be purchased for $40 or so, some
people build their own for $10-15



Stick with your goals, we can help you here.  Ask any questions

73 Andy K3UK


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Boese
datapacrat+ya...@... wrote:

 Hello, all (or CQ, if you prefer);
 
 I'm still fairly inexperienced at the whole amateur radio thing - so
 far, I have my basic license and a VHF handheld. I'd like to start
 exploring digital modes, and am hoping that you might be able to
 suggest what sort of rig would work well for that.
 
 I do have two limitations, though; I live in what's effectively a
 ground-floor apartment, and am thus limited in what sort of antenna I
 can put on my patio; and have a somewhat limited budget - call it
 US$500 at the outside, and preferably less, if possible. Given that,
 does it seem feasible to start getting involved in this aspect of ham,
 or should I focus my attention elsewhere?
 
 
 Thank you for your time,
 --
 Daniel Boese VA3BOS, FN03ie
 I believe that it is better to tell the truth than to lie. I believe
 that it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe that it
 is better to know than be ignorant. - H. L. Mencken





Re: [digitalradio] Re: A little off topic - rotator bolt - SNAP!

2009-02-12 Thread Tony
Andy, 

I'm sorry to hear about the antennas and the Van. It sounds like it was 
unoccupied at the time so thank God for that. 

I should have done more to prevent my situation, but it's an easy fix. A new 
mast pin doesn't cost much so I'm glad it let go instead of the rotator. I'll 
get something bulletproof one of these days. Antennas and tower are fine. 

Good to hear from you Andy...

Tony - K2MO

http://tim-tom1.magix.net/


- Original Message - 
From: Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:50 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: A little off topic - rotator bolt - SNAP!


 Sorry to hear your news Tony.  
 
 I had 60 MPH winds and lost 2 antennae, both hombrewed so I can
 rebuild. We have exceeded 200 inches of snow so far this winter, most
 of it hard packed on my roof over December-February.  The warm spell
 caused a mini avalanche off my roof in to my driveway on Tuesday,
 $3000 of damage to my van !
 
 Tuesday the van, Wednesday the wire antennas.  Life in the snow belt.
 
 Andy K3UK
 
 -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony d...@... wrote:

 All, 
 
 I know this is a little off topic (forgive me Andy) but with the
 high winds we've been having, I thought it was worth mentioning. 
 
 We had wind gusts over 50 MPH today and they were strong enough to
 snap the mast pin on my rotator. The tower was cranked all the way
 down at the time. 
 
 The antennas stood pretty much within 90 degrees azimuth so the mast
 didn't spin enough to twist and damage anything else. 
 
 Something as simple as looping a rope around the boom of the antenna
 to keep it from moving would have prevented this from happening. I did
 this a few years ago when we had 70 MPH winds and all was ok. 
 
 This seems to be the best solution for those with crank-up towers;
 even roof mounted quad-pods with rotators. Wish I would have followed
 my own advise this time; live and learn. 
 
 Tony - K2MO

 
 



Re: [digitalradio] Re: Yet Another Newcomer to digital

2009-02-12 Thread kh6ty

 I'm still fairly inexperienced at the whole amateur radio thing - so
 far, I have my basic license and a VHF handheld. I'd like to start
 exploring digital modes, and am hoping that you might be able to
 suggest what sort of rig would work well for that.

 I do have two limitations, though; I live in what's effectively a
 ground-floor apartment, and am thus limited in what sort of antenna I
 can put on my patio; and have a somewhat limited budget - call it
 US$500 at the outside, and preferably less, if possible. Given that,
 does it seem feasible to start getting involved in this aspect of ham,
 or should I focus my attention elsewhere?



Daniel, excellent advice from Andy! You will probably get the best bang for 
the buck by purchasing a secondhand HF SSB transceiver, building a simple 
meter vertical with four elevated radials, and using PSK31 on 20 meters, but 
getting a General license would be a necessary and most beneficial priority. 
The Small Wonder Labs (smallwonderlabs.com) PSK20 kit is only just over $100 
and you can work the world with it on PSK31.

However, while you are studying for your General license, check out the 
Eclectic Technology column in this March QST for an additional idea. Maybe 
you can get something going in your area that will generate activity. We 
have had a nice little twice-weekly informal 2 meter FM ragchew net going 
now for two years, covering a radius of 40 miles using simple homebuilt 
horizontally polarized antennas without using the repeaters at all, and are 
now beginning to even make random contacts as more people become interested 
in digital FM on 2 meters. The secret to achieving long range is using 
horizontally-polarized antennas, but it takes another station doing the 
same, and I hope it will come in time.

73, Skip KH6TY