[digitalradio] Re: NAQP Sprint RTTY Question

[Andrew O'Brien]

This was just practice, not sure they were QSY-ing in the practice.

Andy K3UK
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Sloan"  wrote:
>
> Why were there so many stations with the name Marc from CA? If you call CQ
> and someone works you, then you must QSY. Right? Sure were a lot of stations
> running a frequency on 40 meters.
> 
>  
>

[digitalradio] NAQP Sprint RTTY Question

[Dave Sloan]

Why were there so many stations with the name Marc from CA? If you call CQ
and someone works you, then you must QSY. Right? Sure were a lot of stations
running a frequency on 40 meters.

 

TNX & 73,

Dave N0EOP

31033

 

[digitalradio] Re: PSK 10 Years On....

[Andrew O'Brien]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Scott Hill  wrote:
>
> Andy, if you don't get a copy somewhere else send me an email with
> your snail mail address, and I will send you the issue.
> 
> Scott/K6IX
> 
>


Hi Scott, old help-file writing friend...good to hear from you.  I think I can 
get a copy locally, thanks for the offer.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Re: 30M Mystery Olivia-like mode ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "John Becker, WØJAB"  wrote:
>
> Can you post the audio file.
> 
> 

I placed it in the files section of this group, see HRD 2009-03-12 155534.mp3 

Re: [digitalradio] 30M Mystery Olivia-like mode ?

[John Becker, WØJAB]

Can you post the audio file.


At 08:28 PM 3/13/2009, you wrote:
>On the HRD Forum there is a thread about an unidentified Olivia-sounding mode 
>, with audio sound clip, at http://forums.ham-radio.ch/showthread.php?t=14678  
>Very wide about 1500 Hz
>
>Anyone know what it is ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at
>http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
>
>
>Recommended software:  Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[digitalradio] Re: New 7MHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan

[expeditionradio]

> Rick N6RK wrote
> What are these comments based on?  They are not 
> consistent with the April QST article.  Do you 
> know something the ARRL doesn't know or isn't telling? 

Hi Rick,

The April 2009 QST article by Brennan N4QX, is 
good, and it provides a feel-good positive spin 
back story on what has been happening with the 
7MHz band changes. It trumpets the "success" of the 
WRC process. The reality is, that the process 
took several decades too long to yield any positive 
results for the ham community. 

For USA hams in the lower 48 states, the combination 
of an ill-conceived FCC-dictated "phone band" 
which was not congruent with the realities of the 
international allocation in the 40 meter band has 
thwarted nightly SSB voice communications for several 
generations.

Respectfully, Brennan's article, in my opinion,
is overly optimistic and glosses over the realities 
of the spectrum allocation "footnote problem", and 
the little-known fact that any country that wants 
to operate a "rogue" transmitter can basically do so 
on any frequency at their whim, because each country 
regulates its own spectrum with national sovereignty. 
What seems like an innocuous little footnote can 
"legitimize" the negation of a main category of the 
international spectrum allocation.

A simple analogy example for USA hams is, that two 
federal entities, FCC and NTIA, have separate control 
over the same RF spectrum, and assign or allocate 
the same frequencies at the same time, in parallel, 
and sometimes in direct opposition. 

In my opinion, it is either overly optimistic or naive, 
to think that all broadcasters and continuous fixed 
data transmitters in China or South America 
or Africa will instantly vacate the 7100-7200kHz 
band. Keep in mind that there are broadcasters 
and fixed data presently operating in other ham bands 
that are allocated primary to ham radio. 

Now, we have a new bandplan for Region 1 that sets 
up a situation of contention between traditional 
SSB voice, digital, and operators in other countries 
and other regions. We are supposed to be communicators, 
but the people who represent us have often done 
things to thwart communication between us. Most of 
these IARU Bandplans and national bandplans are done 
in secret, without any input or interface with the 
general ham community.

Bonnie KQ6XA

[digitalradio] 30M Mystery Olivia-like mode ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

On the HRD Forum there is a thread about an unidentified Olivia-sounding mode , 
with audio sound clip, at http://forums.ham-radio.ch/showthread.php?t=14678  
Very wide about 1500 Hz

Anyone know what it is ?

Re: [digitalradio] Anyone going to Burning Man this year

[Jeff Moore]

You'd probably have better luck contacting the rocketeers that fly off the 
Playa.  They're there more often, a significant percentage are hams, and 
they're likely to have their ham gear with them while they're on the playa.

Jeff Moore   --  KE7ACY
BORG - Bend Oregon Rocketry Group

- Original Message - 
From: "John Becker, WØJAB" 
Subject: [digitalradio] Anyone going to Burning Man this year


Anyone going to Burning Man this year ?
Sure like to see that grid ( DNØØ ) on the air.

John, W0JAB
. 

[digitalradio] Re: PSK 10 years on

[Graham]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew O'Brien"  wrote:
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Mel"  wrote:
> >
> > I remember reading about PSK in QRZ, which I could afford in those days. As 
> > a user of PacTOR I was quite excited about this, so later in the year when 
> > I visited the amateur radio show in the UK known as the Leicester Rally I 
> > intended to gain some information and buy an opto coupler. I walked all 
> > round, asked at various stands about buying a PSK opto coupler and all I 
> > got was " What's PSK?" The designer of PSK was unknown to those in Britain.
> > 
> > Kind regards, Mel G0GQK
> >
> 
> 
> Well Mel, I would say that is typical of those in the Midlands , since Peter 
> was , I think, living 4 miles from my  UK home in those days.  He lives in a 
> small village in Cumbria,  You know that those in the  south and midlands 
> think it is nothing but sheep north of Lancaster.  G3PLX also co-invented 
> AMTOR
>


I think he is still there ? latest project is a software defined tx/rx ,I have 
spoked with him on 80 and the tx/rx sounded very good  

His beacon software is in use on 5 megs 
http://www.rsgb-spectrumforum.org.uk/5mhz%20beacons.htm

and at the moment , Andy G4JNT is running a slimmed down version of the beacon 
on 500 Khz

http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/multi-function-beacon-by-andy-g4jnt

G .. 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: QRV MT63 - 14109.5

[Tony]

Russel,

Thanks for the VE7CC post and the QSO...

Tony -K2MO


- Original Message - 
From: "Russell Blair" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: QRV MT63 - 14109.5


Tony I posted you on the VE7CC cluster, I hope it will get some more qso's 
for you.

Russell

Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: 
If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops 
moving, subsidize it. - Ronald Reagan

" IN GOD WE TRUST "

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Fri, 3/13/09, Tony  wrote:

From: Tony 
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: QRV MT63 - 14109.5
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 5:36 PM






All,

Thanks to K0PFX, KD4NUE and NC5O for the MT63 contacts. Skeds welcome this
evening as long as the 20 meter stays open.

73, Tony -K2MO

Re: [digitalradio] Re: QRV MT63 - 14109.5

[John Becker, WØJAB]

I was working in the shop making signs and heard some signals.
Was just to busy to stop. What did ol Mel have to say?

At 05:36 PM 3/13/2009, you wrote:
>All,
>
>Thanks to K0PFX, KD4NUE and NC5O for the MT63 contacts. Skeds welcome this 
>evening as long as the 20 meter stays open.
>
>73, Tony -K2MO 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: QRV MT63 - 14109.5

[Russell Blair]

Tony I posted you on the VE7CC cluster, I hope it will get some more qso's for 
you.
 
Russell 

Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If 
it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, 
subsidize it. - Ronald Reagan 

" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Fri, 3/13/09, Tony  wrote:

From: Tony 
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: QRV MT63 - 14109.5
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 5:36 PM






All,

Thanks to K0PFX, KD4NUE and NC5O for the MT63 contacts. Skeds welcome this 
evening as long as the 20 meter stays open.

73, Tony -K2MO 

















  

[digitalradio] Play audio file in FL Digi?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Anyone have simple instructions for playing an audio files within FL-Digi?

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Re: QRV MT63 - 14109.5

[Tony]

All,

Thanks to K0PFX, KD4NUE and NC5O for the MT63 contacts. Skeds welcome this 
evening as long as the 20 meter stays open.

73, Tony -K2MO 

Re: [digitalradio] New 7MHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan

[Rick Karlquist]

What are these comments based on?  They are not consistent
with the April QST article.  Do you know something
the ARRL doesn't know or isn't telling?

BTW, the 41 meter band is not being removed from SWBC, only moved.
Based on what I read, that wasn't the controversial part.
The tough sell was getting the fixed stations out of the new
SWBC band.

Rick N6RK



expeditionradio wrote:
>
> Some comments and notes on the new bandplan
> de Bonnie KQ6XA:
>
> 3. The shortwave broadcast stations of Africa,
> Asia (especially China, etc) or South America will
> probably not move out of the 7100kHz-7200kHz band soon.
> They will continue for a long time, to make this part
> of the band nearly useless from evening to morning.
> Some countries opposed the removal of this band
> from shortwave broadcast... they are the most likely
> ones to be reluctant to move out... or they may
> never actually move.
>
> 4. Placement of the Emergency Centre of Activity
> Frequency at 7110kHz is interesting. However, it
> will be plagued by strong QRM from rogue broadcasters
> of various nations for years into the future. The
> bandplanners might have been naive to remove the
> existing 7060kHz Emergency Centre of Activity
> Frequency from the 2006 bandplan. It would have been
> better to list both frequencies during the next
> few years of interim changes in spectrum use.
>
> 5. Unfortunately, like previous years, the bandplan
> committee paid scant attention to the needs of the
> auto digital ham community. The plan provides only
> one channel for high speed data in a shared
> overlapping area of the band where SSB voice will
> continue to be widely used by the operators of
> Region 1 (and 2, and 3). Although some auto data
> entities will try to meet this suggested change,
> the reality is that this leaves most operators
> involved in the constant volume of fast data
> activity with little choice other than disregarding
> the bandplan's suggestion.
>
> 6. Many countries of Region 1, Region 2, and Region 3
> likely do not plan to update their ham radio spectrum
> allocations, and it may take many years for it
> to happen (if ever). In the interim, it is more likely
> that the band will continue to be used by 3rd world
> bootleggers and pirates... as well as government
> entities. There is really not much recourse for hams to
> deal with those problems.
>
> 73 Bonnie KQ6XA
>
>
>
> 
>
> Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at
> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
>
>
> Recommended software:  Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

[digitalradio] Re: PSK 10 years on

[Andrew O'Brien]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Mel"  wrote:
>
> I remember reading about PSK in QRZ, which I could afford in those days. As a 
> user of PacTOR I was quite excited about this, so later in the year when I 
> visited the amateur radio show in the UK known as the Leicester Rally I 
> intended to gain some information and buy an opto coupler. I walked all 
> round, asked at various stands about buying a PSK opto coupler and all I got 
> was " What's PSK?" The designer of PSK was unknown to those in Britain.
> 
> Kind regards, Mel G0GQK
>


Well Mel, I would say that is typical of those in the Midlands , since Peter 
was , I think, living 4 miles from my  UK home in those days.  He lives in a 
small village in Cumbria,  You know that those in the  south and midlands think 
it is nothing but sheep north of Lancaster.  G3PLX also co-invented AMTOR

Re: [digitalradio] New 7MHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan

[Mike Blazek]

If I recall correctly, the best part is the removal of the international 
broadcasters from 7100-7200.

73,
Mike N5UKZ

expeditionradio wrote:
>
> 7MHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan (effective 29 MAR 2009)
> IARU Region 1 is Europe/Africa/Russia/MiddleEast.
> More details: http://hflink.com/bandplans 
>
> 

[digitalradio] New 7MHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan

[expeditionradio]

7MHz IARU Region 1 Bandplan (effective 29 MAR 2009)
IARU Region 1 is Europe/Africa/Russia/MiddleEast.
More details: http://hflink.com/bandplans
===
FREQ kHz (BANDWIDTH) PREFERRED MODE AND USAGE
===
7000-7025 (200Hz) CW, contest preferred
7025-7040 (200Hz) CW
[7030= QRP Centre of Activity]
7040-7047 (500Hz) Narrow band modes - digimodes
7047-7050 (500Hz) Narrow band modes – digimodes, automatically controlled data 
stations (unattended)
7050-7053 (2700Hz) All modes - digimodes, automatically controlled data 
stations (unattended) 
7053-7060 (2700Hz) All modes - digimodes
7060-7100 (2700Hz) All modes, SSB contest preferred
[7070= Digital Voice Centre of Activity]
[7090= SSB QRP Centre of Activity]
7100-7130 (2700Hz) All modes
[7110= Region 1 Emergency Centre of Activity]
7130-7200 (2700Hz All modes, SSB contest preferred
[7165= Image Centre of Activity]
7175-7200 (2700Hz) All modes, priority for intercontinental operation
 
More details on bandplans:
http://hflink.com/bandplans


Some comments and notes on the new bandplan 
de Bonnie KQ6XA:

1. Region 1 is Europe/Africa/Russia/MiddleEast.
The IARU Region 1 bandplan has been updated, 
effective 29 March 2009, and it includes the 
ITU change of the 7100kHz-7200kHz band to 
allow ham radio use in Region 1. 

2. In some cases, Region 1 hams may need to 
disregard the suggested IARU R1 bandplan in order 
to communicate with operators of countries which 
have different rules and regulations for frequency 
use. This includes USA, Japan, some countries of 
Africa, South America, and Asia.

3. The shortwave broadcast stations of Africa,
Asia (especially China, etc) or South America will 
probably not move out of the 7100kHz-7200kHz band soon. 
They will continue for a long time, to make this part 
of the band nearly useless from evening to morning. 
Some countries opposed the removal of this band 
from shortwave broadcast... they are the most likely 
ones to be reluctant to move out... or they may 
never actually move.

4. Placement of the Emergency Centre of Activity 
Frequency at 7110kHz is interesting. However, it 
will be plagued by strong QRM from rogue broadcasters 
of various nations for years into the future. The 
bandplanners might have been naive to remove the 
existing 7060kHz Emergency Centre of Activity 
Frequency from the 2006 bandplan. It would have been 
better to list both frequencies during the next 
few years of interim changes in spectrum use. 

5. Unfortunately, like previous years, the bandplan 
committee paid scant attention to the needs of the
auto digital ham community. The plan provides only 
one channel for high speed data in a shared 
overlapping area of the band where SSB voice will 
continue to be widely used by the operators of 
Region 1 (and 2, and 3). Although some auto data 
entities will try to meet this suggested change, 
the reality is that this leaves most operators 
involved in the constant volume of fast data 
activity with little choice other than disregarding 
the bandplan's suggestion.  

6. Many countries of Region 1, Region 2, and Region 3 
likely do not plan to update their ham radio spectrum 
allocations, and it may take many years for it 
to happen (if ever). In the interim, it is more likely 
that the band will continue to be used by 3rd world 
bootleggers and pirates... as well as government 
entities. There is really not much recourse for hams to 
deal with those problems.

73 Bonnie KQ6XA

[digitalradio] Re: 40 M band change coming soon

[Tooner]

First I've heard of it Eric.  Do you have any links to articles about these 
proposed changes?

f

[digitalradio] QRV MT63 - 14109.5

[Tony]

All:

I'm QRV MT63 / 14109.5 USB /  beaming west / 20:30z / March 13. I'll be here 
for a while.

Tony -K2MO 

[digitalradio] Re: JT65A goin' to hell in a handbasket

[Kim]

I was being facetious John. CBers back in the 70s were always known for using 
high power, illegal amps. I  refer to hams who use amps in modes like psk31, 
and jt65a as CBers. My way of referring to lids who run too much power when it 
is unnecessary.

AB7JK



--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "John Becker, WØJAB"  wrote:
>
> I must be missing something here.
> If they are CB'ers on 11 meters and not on the ham bands
> why worry about it? But again not being a PSk operator
> maybe I should not be the one asking.
> 
> 
> At 10:08 AM 3/13/2009, you wrote:
> >In the past month all the high power stations who ruined Psk-31 have 
> >discovered JT65A and have shown up with their amps a-blazin. It took them 
> >about a year and a half, CBers not being the brightest tools in the shed. My 
> >sense is they'll get bored shooting the same fish in the same barrel every 
> >day and in a few months when the hammer of realization beats them on their 
> >CB heads again they'll figure they're bored enough to move on to a new mode 
> >(probably Olivia this time).
> >
> >Which begs the question what part of the term "Weak Signal Mode" don't they 
> >understand?
> >
> >AB7JK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at
> >http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
> >
> >
> >Recommended software:  Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

[digitalradio] Re: PSK 10 years on

[Mel]

I remember reading about PSK in QRZ, which I could afford in those days. As a 
user of PacTOR I was quite excited about this, so later in the year when I 
visited the amateur radio show in the UK known as the Leicester Rally I 
intended to gain some information and buy an opto coupler. I walked all round, 
asked at various stands about buying a PSK opto coupler and all I got was " 
What's PSK?" The designer of PSK was unknown to those in Britain.

Kind regards, Mel G0GQK

Re: [digitalradio] PSK 10 Years On....

[Scott Hill]

Andy, if you don't get a copy somewhere else send me an email with
your snail mail address, and I will send you the issue.

Scott/K6IX

Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> I hate to admit this, but I forgot to renew my ARRL membership and
> have missed the latest QRZ Magazine.  I am told that the latest
> edition has an article marking the 10th anniversary of Stve Ford's
> article about PSK31.  I remember that article very well, I also
> remember building my first interface and getting active on PSK with
> G3PLX's software.  What a 10 years it has been on the soundcard
> digital modes !
> 
> Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Anyone going to Burning Man this year

[John Becker, WØJAB]

Anyone going to Burning Man this year ?
Sure like to see that grid ( DNØØ ) on the air.

John, W0JAB

[digitalradio] PSK 10 Years On....

[Andrew O'Brien]

I hate to admit this, but I forgot to renew my ARRL membership and have missed 
the latest QRZ Magazine.  I am told that the latest edition has an article 
marking the 10th anniversary of Stve Ford's article about PSK31.  I remember 
that article very well, I also remember building my first interface and getting 
active on PSK with G3PLX's software.  What a 10 years it has been on the 
soundcard digital modes !

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] JT65A goin' to hell in a handbasket

[John Becker, WØJAB]

I must be missing something here.
If they are CB'ers on 11 meters and not on the ham bands
why worry about it? But again not being a PSk operator
maybe I should not be the one asking.


At 10:08 AM 3/13/2009, you wrote:
>In the past month all the high power stations who ruined Psk-31 have 
>discovered JT65A and have shown up with their amps a-blazin. It took them 
>about a year and a half, CBers not being the brightest tools in the shed. My 
>sense is they'll get bored shooting the same fish in the same barrel every day 
>and in a few months when the hammer of realization beats them on their CB 
>heads again they'll figure they're bored enough to move on to a new mode 
>(probably Olivia this time).
>
>Which begs the question what part of the term "Weak Signal Mode" don't they 
>understand?
>
>AB7JK
>
>
>
>
>
>Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at
>http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
>
>
>Recommended software:  Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[digitalradio] Re: JT65A goin' to hell in a handbasket

[Kim]

To tell the truth most of that year and a half was spent trying to figure out 
who transmits first and who transmits second, and that it can be either or but 
not not the same. That and trying to figure out how to set their computer 
clocks over the internet was a tough nut to crack. They persevered though.

AB7JK



--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Kim"  wrote:
>
> In the past month all the high power stations who ruined Psk-31 have 
> discovered JT65A and have shown up with their amps a-blazin. It took them 
> about a year and a half, CBers not being the brightest tools in the shed. My 
> sense is they'll get bored shooting the same fish in the same barrel every 
> day and in a few months when the hammer of realization beats them on their CB 
> heads again they'll figure they're bored enough to move on to a new mode 
> (probably Olivia this time).
> 
> Which begs the question what part of the term "Weak Signal Mode" don't they 
> understand?
> 
> AB7JK
>

[digitalradio] JT65A goin' to hell in a handbasket

[Kim]

In the past month all the high power stations who ruined Psk-31 have discovered 
JT65A and have shown up with their amps a-blazin. It took them about a year and 
a half, CBers not being the brightest tools in the shed. My sense is they'll 
get bored shooting the same fish in the same barrel every day and in a few 
months when the hammer of realization beats them on their CB heads again 
they'll figure they're bored enough to move on to a new mode (probably Olivia 
this time).

Which begs the question what part of the term "Weak Signal Mode" don't they 
understand?

AB7JK

[digitalradio] NZ4O Daily LF/MF/HF/6M Frequency Radiowave Propagation Forecast #2009-07

[nz4o]

The NZ4O Daily LF/MF/HF/6M Frequency Radiowave Propagation Forecast #2009-07
has been published on Friday 03/13/2009 at 1400 UTC, valid  UTC Saturday
03/14/2009 through 2359 UTC Friday 03/20/2009 at
http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf6.htm  .

73 & GUD DX,
Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O
Lakeland, FL, USA
n...@arrl.net

NZ4O Daily Solar Space Weather & Geomagnetic Data Archive:
http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf5.htm
NZ4O Daily LF/MF/HF/6M Frequency Radiowave Propagation Forecast & Archive:
http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf6.htm
NZ4O 160 Meter Radio Propagation Theory Notes:
http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf8.htm
LF/MF/HF/VHF Frequency Radiowave Propagation Email Reflector:
http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/kn4lf
Harmful Man Induced Climate Change (Global Warming) Refuted:
http://www.kn4lf.com/globalwarminglie.htm

[digitalradio] 40 M band change coming soon

[jevacuum]

Is there a group working on a new band plan for 40 M?
If so, we need to be sure the digital community has input.

Are the international SSB stations going to move from the 7060 through 7100 
frequency range? If so, I would like to see an arrangement as on 20 M.

Eric - K9NP