[digitalradio] Re: New ALE Yahoogroup

[Tooner]

Good idea, but the first thing I'd recommend is to use something besides the 
PCALE software as your screenshot on the forum!

f, k2ncc

[digitalradio] New ALE Yahoogroup

[Andrew O'Brien]

I have decided to start a yahoo group specific to ALE.  There is already a 
Yahoo Group that is dedicated to PC-ALE in the form of HFLINK.  This site is 
full of many very helpful hams but   I am frustrated by the almost clandestine 
approach that this Yahoo group takes.  The group is heavily moderated and 
access to PC-ALE requires membership to the yahoo group.  While the owner of 
that group is free to run their group in any way they want,  I feel that this 
approach is simply stifling the growth of ALE on HF and essentially making ALE 
via PC-ALE a private ham mode under control of one ham.

I hope that one day the HFLINK will have less restrictive , more public domain, 
practices and an "Open ALE" Yahoo Group will not be required.

The new group is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ALEradio

Discussion of ALE for hams and SWL's using PC-ALE and/pr Multipsk 

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

[John Bradley]

I didn't . must have got lost in the linux :}

 

I'll google it . So is this a true windows software, or one where I have to
reboot my computer using gopher or prairie dog or some other

linux on a disc?

 

John

VE5MU

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:21 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

 

John VE5MU, I want to make sure that you saw that message about PSKMAIL
indeed being available in Windows/Java?

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Re: popular software

[jhaynesatalumni]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "ww6aa"  wrote:
>
> i am new to dig.radio and apologize for asking a question that i am sure has 
> been answered many times, but search came up with >1000 replies.  What 
> software seems to be most popular @ this time
>
You mean today?  Or last week?

Seriously, a lot of people get started in digital radio with
Digipan and PSK31 on Windows.  Or do RTTY with MMTTY and Windows.

Then many move on to multimode programs.  I've been talking to
lots of hams lately who use HRD Ham Radio Deluxe with DM780.
Haven't tried it yet myself.  I've been using MultiPSK, which
has a pretty intimidating user interface but does an awful lot
of modes if you want to try them all.  I still occasionally
talk to people using MixW.

Then there is fldigi, which is one of my personal favorites,
mainly because it does a lot of modes and works under Linux and
Windows both.  I prefer Linux but keep Windows around so I can
run the software that doesn't work under Linux.

Jim W6JVE

[digitalradio] Re: popular software

[Andrew O'Brien]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "ww6aa"  wrote:
>
> i am new to dig.radio and apologize for asking a question that i am sure has 
> been answered many times, but search came up with >1000 replies.  What 
> software seems to be most popular @ this time
>

Welcome..

I would say that Winwarbler, DM780, Multipsk, and FLDIGI are the most used, at 
least based on what I see mentioned when in a digital QSO.  MixW too.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] popular software

[ww6aa]

i am new to dig.radio and apologize for asking a question that i am sure has 
been answered many times, but search came up with >1000 replies.  What software 
seems to be most popular @ this time

Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

[Andy obrien]

I am using PC-HFDL, unlicenced.  It costs US$35.00 for a licence.

Andy K3UK



On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Fred VE3FAL  wrote:
> I used to use OC-HFDL by Charles Brain, what is a good software to use for
> ACARS and HFDL that does not cost an arm and a leg now..
>
> Fred
> VE3FAL
>

RE: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

[Fred VE3FAL]

I used to use OC-HFDL by Charles Brain, what is a good software to use for
ACARS and HFDL that does not cost an arm and a leg now..


Fred
VE3FAL

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Andy obrien
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:44 PM
To: digitalradio
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

It works very nicely with Google Earth.  6661 is very active right
now,  click on the link below for a screen shot.

http://www.obriensweb.com/planes.jpg


Nice reception on that band



Andy K3UK


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Andy obrien  wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Andy obrien  wrote:
>> Thanks Tony, I will add those.
>>
>> Andy K3UK
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Tony  wrote:
>>> Andy,
>>> Here are a few:
>>> 6661 3428 6532 10081 KHz.
>>> Tony -K2MO
>>>
>
>
> Well, what do you know, within 10 seconds of tuning to 6661 I received ...
>
>  AIR 22:30:12  UTC FLT CO0040 ?? ICAO ?? AID 75 LAT 42 3 20  N
>  LON 70 9 3  W
>
> Cool.
>
> Andy K3UK
>




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Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?

[Russell Blair]

Sri, my pinging is on 10.148 USB BPSK250.
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Per  wrote:

From: Per 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 4:05 PM








Hi Rick,

Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had 
some success as well.
Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer 
your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server.
I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many 
files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-)

The server saying "Hi KV9U, pse update your record" is an indication that it 
lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter 
settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. 
You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do 
stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp 
sites, weather and much more.

Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came 
with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information 
about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: 
http://pskmail. wikispaces. com/operation

As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be 
added, its on a list of things to implement :-)

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: Rick W 
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?



I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a "resurgence" of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
> Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
> server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.
>


















  

[digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

[Andrew O'Brien]

John VE5MU, I want to make sure that you saw that message about PSKMAIL indeed 
being available in Windows/Java?

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Pinging - PSKMail Windows server?

[Russell Blair]

I have been ping ing for the past few hours and had no responce fro a server 
station, I am to close the WB5COM he is in Texas as well. but I will keep 
trying, question ping duration and contents is where in the program ?. Mine my 
be to short and has no message, but what is being Tx is my call, I think
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Per  wrote:

From: Per 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 4:05 PM








Hi Rick,

Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had 
some success as well.
Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer 
your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server.
I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many 
files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-)

The server saying "Hi KV9U, pse update your record" is an indication that it 
lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter 
settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. 
You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do 
stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp 
sites, weather and much more.

Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came 
with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information 
about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: 
http://pskmail. wikispaces. com/operation

As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be 
added, its on a list of things to implement :-)

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: Rick W 
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?



I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a "resurgence" of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
> Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
> server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.
>


















  

Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

[Andy obrien]

I assume that this is what you mean,


Ground Station ID 4
RIVERHEAD - NEW YORK
UTC UNLOCKED
Longitude 72 38 22  W  Latitude 40 52 47  N
Squitter Version 0
Number of frequencies 20
Frequency 21934000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 21931000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 17952000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 17934000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 17919000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 13276000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 11387000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 11354000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 11315000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 10027000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 8912000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 8885000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 8831000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 6661000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 6652000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 6646000 Hz Master Frame Slot 5
Frequency 5652000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 5523000 Hz Master Frame Slot 1
Frequency 3428000 Hz Master Frame Slot 9
Frequency 341 Hz Master Frame Slot 9


So, this is rebroadcast from a fixed station, not the plane ?

Andy K3Uk





On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Andy obrien  wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:44 PM, "John Becker, WØJAB"
>  wrote:
>> I sure hope you would. That station is in New York.
>> Should see a lot from that and 11,387.
>>
>> John, W0JAB
>>
>
>
> When you say "That station is in New York.", what do you mean?
>
> Andy
>

RE: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF

[John Bradley]

winlink2000 using pactor RMS stations are an option, not a cheap option but
viable under all propagation.

check out http://www.winlink.org/ for more info 

John
VE5MU

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kristoff Bonne
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:52 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF

Hi All,


Russell Blair schreef:
> We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check my
mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that I can
check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this to
happen, any help ?
>   
You know. I once saw a TV-documentory on this, and more particular on
communication and life for people living on the small poor islands-nations
of the pacific ocean.

They used some kind of HF-radio based system to sent messages from
"post-offices" located on certain islands to other Islands. I never found
what system they where actually using. All information I found on the net is
either aimed at hams or emergency communications, or for
(rich) owners of yachts.

Does anybody know if these systems are used by "PTT"s in the world?



BTW. According the documantory, the main problem for these island-nations
was not really the technology and equipement, but find a good secure
electricity-system which -by preference- is not dependent on (to be
imported, so very expensive) petroleum.


Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.

--
jabber/gtalk: krist...@krbonne.net

Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

[Andy obrien]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:44 PM, "John Becker, WØJAB"
 wrote:
> I sure hope you would. That station is in New York.
> Should see a lot from that and 11,387.
>
> John, W0JAB
>


When you say "That station is in New York.", what do you mean?

Andy

Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

[John Becker, WØJAB]

I sure hope you would. That station is in New York.
Should see a lot from that and 11,387.

John, W0JAB




>Well, what do you know, within 10 seconds of tuning to 6661 I received ...
>
> AIR 22:30:12  UTC FLT CO0040 ?? ICAO ?? AID 75 LAT 42 3 20  N
> LON 70 9 3  W
>
>Cool.
>
>Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

[Andy obrien]

It works very nicely with Google Earth.  6661 is very active right
now,  click on the link below for a screen shot.

http://www.obriensweb.com/planes.jpg


Nice reception on that band



Andy K3UK


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Andy obrien  wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Andy obrien  wrote:
>> Thanks Tony, I will add those.
>>
>> Andy K3UK
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Tony  wrote:
>>> Andy,
>>> Here are a few:
>>> 6661 3428 6532 10081 KHz.
>>> Tony -K2MO
>>>
>
>
> Well, what do you know, within 10 seconds of tuning to 6661 I received ...
>
>  AIR 22:30:12  UTC FLT CO0040 ?? ICAO ?? AID 75 LAT 42 3 20  N
>  LON 70 9 3  W
>
> Cool.
>
> Andy K3UK
>

Re: [digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

[Andy obrien]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Andy obrien  wrote:
> Thanks Tony, I will add those.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Tony  wrote:
>> Andy,
>> Here are a few:
>> 6661 3428 6532 10081 KHz.
>> Tony -K2MO
>>


Well, what do you know, within 10 seconds of tuning to 6661 I received ...

 AIR 22:30:12  UTC FLT CO0040 ?? ICAO ?? AID 75 LAT 42 3 20  N
 LON 70 9 3  W

Cool.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] HFDL frequencies ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Anyone using PC- HFDL?  What are active frequencies to monitor ?

Andy K3UK 

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Toby Burnett]

Wish someone would set up a UK server for testing purposes at least, could
get on 7Mhz or 3.5Mhz.  Would be ideal. I've never managed to connect with
the Swedish /  German servers yet. Must be doing something wrong!!  Using
JPSKMAIL RX is fine with Fldigi but never connects. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Andy obrien
Date: 31/03/2009 13:19:31
To: digitalradio
Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
 
Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ? I
thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.

Andy K3UK


 <>

[digitalradio] Re: Another "what is this mode" question

[jhaynesatalumni]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien  wrote:
>
> What frequency was this mode?
>
Oh, about 7073.  There was an Olivia signal nearby, which made
it easy to see that the displays were different.  Olivia looks
more random, like snowfall, whereas this signal seemed to have
a pattern to it.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Another "what is this mode" question

[Andy obrien]

What frequency was this mode?

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Per]

Hi Rick,

Great that you decided to try out the java client, good to hear that you had 
some success as well.
Yes, any server that receives a ping will respond. I see that WB5CON did answer 
your pings and that you were able to link and connect to that server.
I also see that you were able to list the files at the server, wasn't many 
files there (only pings.log) but the listing worked :-)

The server saying "Hi KV9U, pse update your record" is an indication that it 
lacks information about you (how to get your email for instance). You can enter 
settings through the options and then upload them to the server when connected. 
You can then access your pop email account, send email etc. You can also do 
stuff without updating any info on the server, browsing the web, getting camp 
sites, weather and much more.

Much of what you can do with the java client is in the fast start pdf that came 
with it, you may also have a look at the wiki where much of the information 
about the linux client is applicable, that info is available here: 
http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/operation

As you said the java client is not 100% complete yet and the TTY mode will be 
added, its on a list of things to implement :-)

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: Rick W 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:23:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?


I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a "resurgence" of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
> Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
> server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.
>


   


  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Russell Blair]

Rick, Thanks for you responce to my mail.
 
Russell NC5O

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Rick W  wrote:

From: Rick W 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 2:23 PM






I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a "resurgence" of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Russell Blair wrote:
> Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
> server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.
>

















  

RE: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF

[Rud Merriam]

On article about HF email in Africa is at
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6299. I remembered it but not the
details so Google "africa hf email". There are some other search results
you might want to read. 

 
 - 73 - 
Rud Merriam K5RUD 
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
http://TheHamNetwork.net


> -Original Message-
> From: Kristoff Bonne [mailto:kristoff.bo...@skypro.be] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:52 PM
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> Russell Blair schreef:
> > We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would 
> like to check 
> > my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on 
> the HF that I can check into and get my mail, and what 
> program would I need for this to happen, any help ?
> >   
> You know. I once saw a TV-documentory on this, and more 
> particular on communication and life for people living on the 
> small poor islands-nations of the pacific ocean.
> 
> They used some kind of HF-radio based system to sent messages 
> from "post-offices" located on certain islands to other 
> Islands. I never found what system they where actually using. 
> All information I found on the net is either aimed at hams or 
> emergency communications, or for
> (rich) owners of yachts.
> 
> Does anybody know if these systems are used by "PTT"s in the world?
> 
> 
> 
> BTW. According the documantory, the main problem for these 
> island-nations was not really the technology and equipement, 
> but find a good secure electricity-system which -by 
> preference- is not dependent on (to be imported, so very 
> expensive) petroleum.
> 
> 
> Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.
> 
> -- 
> jabber/gtalk: krist...@krbonne.net
> 
> 

Re: [digitalradio] Question about mail servers on HF

[Kristoff Bonne]

Hi All,


Russell Blair schreef:
> We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check my 
> mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that I can 
> check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this to happen, 
> any help ?
>   
You know. I once saw a TV-documentory on this, and more particular on
communication and life for people living on the small poor
islands-nations of the pacific ocean.

They used some kind of HF-radio based system to sent messages from
"post-offices" located on certain islands to other Islands. I never
found what system they where actually using. All information I found on
the net is either aimed at hams or emergency communications, or for
(rich) owners of yachts.

Does anybody know if these systems are used by "PTT"s in the world?



BTW. According the documantory, the main problem for these
island-nations was not really the technology and equipement, but find a
good secure electricity-system which -by preference- is not dependent on
(to be imported, so very expensive) petroleum.


Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.

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Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Rick W]

I am not that knowledgeable about PSKmail yet, but from what I 
understand, if I go to the APRS tab and use the Ping button, any server 
stations on frequency that can hear me will respond back. So far, the 
only station that has ever responded has been WB5CON. At this moment, of 
the seven listed USA servers (includes Alaska), only WB5CON, KD5WDQ, and 
KD4QCL may be active based on the PSKmail server web status. WB5CON is 
about 750 miles from my location and on 30 meters that is about right 
for daytime propagation.

The other callsign I have seen that I think is attempting to connect, or 
is connecting to WB5CON, is KD5UMW from TX.

I am not completely understanding what you can do with PSKmail such as 
listing files, etc. Not much happens when I connect but maybe my 
connection is not good enough? I realize that the Windows version is not 
fully operational at this time, but it gives you a taste of the system.

The peer to peer feature of PSKmail is not available so you would have 
to connect with a server only. The ability to connect to a peer is vital 
from my perspective since I am primarily interested in the public 
service/emergency capabilities of these kinds of systems. Otherwise, you 
need multiple systems for e-mail, peer to peer, local servers, etc. and 
it is rare to find enough hams who are willing to do this.

Our local group is trying to piggyback off a "resurgence" of SSB 
activity here in the northern midwest U.S. to see if we can get interest 
in digital VHF FM using vertical polarization with Domino EX or any 
digital modes for that matter. If it proves possible to get some 
interest, we might be able to expose new hams to other alternatives. 
Only a tiny number have the slightest interest, but you have to start 
somewhere.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Russell Blair wrote:
> Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a 
> server your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.
>

[digitalradio] Re: Another "what is this mode" question

[jhaynesatalumni]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Mike Blazek  wrote:
>
> Hi, Jim:
> 
> Might have been MFSK16?
> 
> Mike N5UKZ
> 
Nope, MFSK16 is much narrower than 500 Hz.  And I tried MFSK32
with no results.

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Rein Couperus]

Tnx Stelios... that is very good news, I was not aware of the 
Xvfb server. Some reading necssary.
Most pskmail servers are indeed run headless, and remote controlled via VNC.
Once they are running they need no maintenance, and the GUI 
uses resources which are unnecessary for the function they perform...

Tnx again, some more experimenting to do :)

Rein PA0R

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Stelios Bounanos" 
> Gesendet: 31.03.09 19:45:04
> An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> CC: Rein Couperus 
> Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?


> > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:50:11 +0200, Rein Couperus  
> > said:
> 
> > Yes, the server is linux only at the moment. Ultimate goal is to use a 
> > LAMP server without a GUI in future, but fldigi needs the GUI :)
> 
> Fldigi needs an X11 display (on Linux/FreeBSD), which makes it
> non-straightforward to use in "server mode".  But it's possible
> with a "fake" X server such as Xvfb.  Excerpt from Xvfb(1):
> 
>   Xvfb is an X server that can run on machines with no display hardware
>   and no physical input devices. It emulates a dumb framebuffer using
>   virtual memory.
> 
> Here's how you'd use it with fldigi:
> 
>   ssh remote-host
>   Xvfb -ac :99 &
>   fldigi -display :99 &
> 
> Debian (and I expect Ubuntu as well) has a convenient shell script
> wrapper for this, xvfb-run:
> 
>   xvfb-run fldigi -display :99
> 
> This ssh command runs fldigi on a remote host and also forwards fldigi's
> xml-rpc port so that you can then control it with fldigi-shell (or other
> client):
> 
>   ssh -L 7362:localhost:7362 remote-host xvfb-run fldigi -display :99
> 
> You could in addition forward port 7322 to tunnel the ARQ connection so
> that the pskmail server can be run locally.
> 
> I'm guessing that you manage the remote pskmail server and fldigi using
> VNC.  If that's only because you need to interact with fldigi, you may
> find that the xml-rpc interface has all you need, and that you can use
> the above method to simplify the setup somewhat.  A "headless" fldigi
> can be very useful; for example you could run a fldigi/pskmail server
> on a Marvell SheevaPlug or a Beagle Board.
> 
> Take a look at the xml-rpc methods (fldigi --xmlrpc-list) and let us
> know if there's anything that could be added for pskmail.  The main
> thing that's missing right now is functions to change RTTY and Olivia
> parameters (I plan to add them RSN), but I don't think pskmail uses
> these modems.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Stelios, M0GLD.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
> 
> 
> Recommended software:  Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Stelios Bounanos]

> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:50:11 +0200, Rein Couperus  
> said:

> Yes, the server is linux only at the moment. Ultimate goal is to use a 
> LAMP server without a GUI in future, but fldigi needs the GUI :)

Fldigi needs an X11 display (on Linux/FreeBSD), which makes it
non-straightforward to use in "server mode".  But it's possible
with a "fake" X server such as Xvfb.  Excerpt from Xvfb(1):

  Xvfb is an X server that can run on machines with no display hardware
  and no physical input devices. It emulates a dumb framebuffer using
  virtual memory.

Here's how you'd use it with fldigi:

  ssh remote-host
  Xvfb -ac :99 &
  fldigi -display :99 &

Debian (and I expect Ubuntu as well) has a convenient shell script
wrapper for this, xvfb-run:

  xvfb-run fldigi -display :99

This ssh command runs fldigi on a remote host and also forwards fldigi's
xml-rpc port so that you can then control it with fldigi-shell (or other
client):

  ssh -L 7362:localhost:7362 remote-host xvfb-run fldigi -display :99

You could in addition forward port 7322 to tunnel the ARQ connection so
that the pskmail server can be run locally.

I'm guessing that you manage the remote pskmail server and fldigi using
VNC.  If that's only because you need to interact with fldigi, you may
find that the xml-rpc interface has all you need, and that you can use
the above method to simplify the setup somewhat.  A "headless" fldigi
can be very useful; for example you could run a fldigi/pskmail server
on a Marvell SheevaPlug or a Beagle Board.

Take a look at the xml-rpc methods (fldigi --xmlrpc-list) and let us
know if there's anything that could be added for pskmail.  The main
thing that's missing right now is functions to change RTTY and Olivia
parameters (I plan to add them RSN), but I don't think pskmail uses
these modems.


73,
Stelios, M0GLD.

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Russell Blair]

Rick, I saw your call wile I was listening on 10.148 PSK250 is that a server 
your. I'm looking for a call to try to connect to.
 
Russell

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Rick W  wrote:

From: Rick W 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 11:02 AM






Since so few hams need to install servers, perhaps this could be one of 
the rare exceptions where some of us might consider actually dedicating 
a computer to Linux, for this special application? Most hams here in the 
U.S. would likely be accessing the server with a MS Windows based OS as 
that becomes available.

If PSKmail became popular, we might need a fair number of servers, 
although some could be on standby. If I understand PSKmail correctly, it 
is possible to set up ad hoc servers as needed. You do not have the 
centralized politics that is done by design with other systems. 
Individuals and groups use their independent judgment when and where 
placement is made for a server. For example, some servers could be on 
standby and be activated for an emergency situation.

You could also use MF and NVIS type operation that is not done much with 
other systems although it may require a better protocol than PSK for 
consistent results.

73,

Rick, KV9U

Andy obrien wrote:
> Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ? I
> thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
> America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
> 

















  

Re: [digitalradio] Another "what is this mode" question

[Mike Blazek]

Hi, Jim:

Might have been MFSK16?

Mike N5UKZ

jhaynesatalumni wrote:
>
> I was listening to some stuff last night on 40M, and it was clearly
> 500 Hz wide and about 16 discrete tones, but it was not Olivia and
> I couldn't find anything else that would decode it either. Tried
> Contestia and RTTYM and various settings of Thor and DominoEX.
> The signals looked and sounded a bit different from Olivia - with
> Olivia the spots on the waterfall seem to be more or less random,
> whereas with the mystery signal they seemed to be more clustered
> around a frequency a little below the center of the group. And
> seemed to have more of a pattern to them.
>
> Jim W6JVE
>
> 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

[Steinar Aanesland]

Hi Per

I have sent you a direct mail to your mail address : n59...@yahoo.com

73 de LA5VNA Steinar



Per wrote:
> Hi Steinar,
>
> Its stored at the pskmail server, you do not send it over the air when you 
> access your email account.
> You can, however, update the settings that the server has for you over the 
> air. Its also possible to have
> the server sysop enter your details in the local database.
>
> 73 de Per, sm0rwo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: Steinar Aanesland 
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:18:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF
>
>
> Hi Rein,
>
> If I understand this correctly,  I access my own email providers' pop
> server with PSKmail. How does the system secure my email password when I
> am connecting to the pop server ?
>
> 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
>
> pa0r wrote:
>   
>> The difference is:
>>
>> for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.
>>
>> PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
>> interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Rein PA0R
>>
>> --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Sholto Fisher  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Russell,
>>>
>>> MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
>>> 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
>>> http://hflink. com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
>>> throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
>>> received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
>>>
>>> Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
>>> for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
>>> external/expensive proprietary modem.
>>>
>>> In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
>>> problem but it's still in development.
>>>
>>> As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
>>> PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
>>>
>>> For high volume or non-amateur "commercial" email you would be better 
>>> thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
>>> Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
>>>
>>> 73 Sholto
>>> K7TMG
>>>
>>> Russell Blair wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
 my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
 I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
 to happen, any help ?

 Russell

 Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
 its called the PRESENT!

 " IN GOD WE TRUST "

 Russell Blair (NC5O)
 Skype-Russell. Blair
 Hell Field #300
 DRCC #55
 30m Dig-group #693



 
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>   

Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?

[Russell Blair]

Tnx I will take a look into these list

Russell NC5O

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
  Skype-Russell.Blair
  Hell Field #300
  DRCC #55
  30m Dig-group #693


--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Rein Couperus  wrote:

> From: Rein Couperus 
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 10:33 AM
> http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/
> http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers
> http://www.freelists.org/archive/pskmail
> 
> 73,
> 
> Rein PA0R
> 
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: "Russell Blair"
> 
> > Gesendet: 31.03.09 16:06:37
> > An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows
> server?
> 
> 
> > Andy, that band and frequency can I find a PSKmail
> server station, 
> > I'm trying to get pskmail to Rec. Is there a
> PSKmail group that I can 
> > look into.
> > Now I'm on 30m 10.148.50 and I hear some Pactor
> station.
> > 
> > Russell 
> > 
> > Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is
> a GIFT! Thats 
> > why its called the PRESENT!
> > 
> > " IN GOD WE TRUST " 
> > 
> > Russell Blair (NC5O)
> > Skype-Russell.Blair
> > Hell Field #300
> > DRCC #55
> > 30m Dig-group #693
> > 
> > --- On  *Tue, 3/31/09, Andy obrien
> * wrote:
> > From: Andy obrien 
> > Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
> > To: "digitalradio"
> 
> > Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:17 AM
> > 
> > Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based
> only ? I
> > thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more
> servers in North
> > America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.
> > 
> > Andy K3UK
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> http://pa0r.blogspirit.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked
> Page at
> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
> 
> 
> Recommended software:  Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or
> Multipsk
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

[Per]

Hi Steinar,

Its stored at the pskmail server, you do not send it over the air when you 
access your email account.
You can, however, update the settings that the server has for you over the air. 
Its also possible to have
the server sysop enter your details in the local database.

73 de Per, sm0rwo








From: Steinar Aanesland 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:18:47 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF


Hi Rein,

If I understand this correctly,  I access my own email providers' pop
server with PSKmail. How does the system secure my email password when I
am connecting to the pop server ?

73 de LA5VNA Steinar

pa0r wrote:
> The difference is:
>
> for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.
>
> PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
> interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.
>
> 73,
>
> Rein PA0R
>
> --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Sholto Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> Russell,
>>
>> MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
>> 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
>> http://hflink. com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
>> throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
>> received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
>>
>> Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
>> for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
>> external/expensive proprietary modem.
>>
>> In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
>> problem but it's still in development.
>>
>> As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
>> PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
>>
>> For high volume or non-amateur "commercial" email you would be better 
>> thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
>> Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
>>
>> 73 Sholto
>> K7TMG
>>
>> Russell Blair wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
>>> my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
>>> I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
>>> to happen, any help ?
>>>
>>> Russell
>>>
>>> Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
>>> its called the PRESENT!
>>>
>>> " IN GOD WE TRUST "
>>>
>>> Russell Blair (NC5O)
>>> Skype-Russell. Blair
>>> Hell Field #300
>>> DRCC #55
>>> 30m Dig-group #693
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>
>
>
> 


   


  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

[Per]

There is a java version that you can run on windows (xp, vista, whatever), mac 
and linux.
Its dead easy to set up (just unzip).

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: John Bradley 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 5:57:14 PM
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF


PSKmail would gain a lot more traction if there was a windows
version.  Some of us can’t , or don’t want to get our heads around linux.
It is just another variable in my limited computer skills
 
John
VE5MU
 
From:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi o...@yahoogroups. com] 
On Behalf
Of pa0r
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:52 AM
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF
 
The difference is:

for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more
interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

73,

Rein PA0R

--- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com,
Sholto Fisher  wrote:
>
> Russell,
> 
> MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
> 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
> http://hflink. com) which are generally
accessible on most HF bands 
> throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
> received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
> 
> Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
> for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
> external/expensive proprietary modem.
> 
> In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
> problem but it's still in development.
> 
> As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
> PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
> 
> For high volume or non-amateur "commercial" email you would be
better 
> thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
> Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
> 
> 73 Sholto
> K7TMG
> 
> Russell Blair wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to
check 
> > my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF
that 
> > I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for
this 
> > to happen, any help ?
> > 
> > Russell
> > 
> > Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats
why 
> > its called the PRESENT!
> > 
> > " IN GOD WE TRUST "
> > 
> > Russell Blair (NC5O)
> > Skype-Russell. Blair
> > Hell Field #300
> > DRCC #55
> > 30m Dig-group #693
> > 
> >
>
   


  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

[Steinar Aanesland]

Hi Rein,

If I understand this correctly,  I access my own email providers' pop
server with PSKmail. How does the system secure my email password when I
am connecting to the pop server ?


73 de LA5VNA Steinar





pa0r wrote:
> The difference is:
>
> for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.
>
> PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
> interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.
>
> 73,
>
> Rein PA0R
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher  wrote:
>   
>> Russell,
>>
>> MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
>> 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
>> http://hflink.com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
>> throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
>> received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
>>
>> Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
>> for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
>> external/expensive proprietary modem.
>>
>> In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
>> problem but it's still in development.
>>
>> As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
>> PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
>>
>> For high volume or non-amateur "commercial" email you would be better 
>> thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
>> Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
>>
>> 73 Sholto
>> K7TMG
>>
>> Russell Blair wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
>>> my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
>>> I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
>>> to happen, any help ?
>>>
>>> Russell
>>>
>>> Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
>>> its called the PRESENT!
>>>
>>> " IN GOD WE TRUST "
>>>
>>> Russell Blair (NC5O)
>>> Skype-Russell. Blair
>>> Hell Field #300
>>> DRCC #55
>>> 30m Dig-group #693
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>
>
>
>   

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Paclink and KPC3+

[kg4vub]

Hey Doug,

Suggest taking your issue to the PaclinkMP group. Someone there may be
able to answer your question that isn't signed up on this group.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PaclinkMP/

I'm confused about your comment of waiting to power on the TNC after
the comm port is open. The TNC should be powered on before you start
Paclink.

Also, make sure your TNC is not still in newuser mode.

Tom

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:46 PM, dougjustham  wrote:
> Did fresh reinstall and still had issues.  Accidentally had KPC#+ off when 
> starting the connect process and turned it on after the Paclink displayed 
> "Comm Port Open"  and it set up fine.  I tried over and over again and it 
> seems to work fine if I wait to power the TNC on after the comm port is open.
>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "VE3FAL-Fred"  wrote:
>>
>> We experienced the same thing this weekend at our EOC center, we are also 
>> going to do a fresh install and setup.
>>
>> Fred
>> VE3FAL
>> VE3ONN Ontario North ARES E.O.C
>>
>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:21:04 -
>>   "dougjustham"  wrote:
>> > Has anyone had issues using Paclink with a KPC3+?
>> >
>> > All seemed fine for about 3 connects, but now Paclink can't talk to the 
>> > TNC. I can talk to the TNC just fine with Hyper Terminal
>> >and Winlink and all are set to 9600 baud.  Will do a re-istall to see how 
>> >that goes, but curious if anyone else experienced
>> >trouble.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >
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Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Rick W]

Since so few hams need to install servers, perhaps this could be one of 
the rare exceptions where some of us might consider actually dedicating 
a computer to Linux, for this special application? Most hams here in the 
U.S. would likely be accessing the server with a MS Windows based OS as 
that becomes available.

If PSKmail became popular, we might need a fair number of servers, 
although some could be on standby. If I understand PSKmail correctly, it 
is possible to set up ad hoc servers as needed. You do not have the 
centralized politics that is done by design with other systems. 
Individuals and groups use their independent judgment when and where 
placement is made for a server. For example, some servers could be on 
standby and be activated for an emergency situation.

You could also use MF and NVIS type operation that is not done much with 
other systems although it may require a better protocol than PSK for 
consistent results.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Andy obrien wrote:
> Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ?  I
> thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
> America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
>   

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

[John Bradley]

PSKmail would gain a lot more traction if there was a windows version.  Some
of us can't , or don't want to get our heads around linux.

It is just another variable in my limited computer skills

 

John

VE5MU

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of pa0r
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:52 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

 

The difference is:

for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more
interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

73,

Rein PA0R

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
, Sholto Fisher  wrote:
>
> Russell,
> 
> MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
> 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
> http://hflink.com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
> throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
> received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
> 
> Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
> for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
> external/expensive proprietary modem.
> 
> In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
> problem but it's still in development.
> 
> As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
> PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
> 
> For high volume or non-amateur "commercial" email you would be better 
> thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
> Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
> 
> 73 Sholto
> K7TMG
> 
> Russell Blair wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
> > my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
> > I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this

> > to happen, any help ?
> > 
> > Russell
> > 
> > Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
> > its called the PRESENT!
> > 
> > " IN GOD WE TRUST "
> > 
> > Russell Blair (NC5O)
> > Skype-Russell. Blair
> > Hell Field #300
> > DRCC #55
> > 30m Dig-group #693
> > 
> >
>

[digitalradio] Another "what is this mode" question

[jhaynesatalumni]

I was listening to some stuff last night on 40M, and it was clearly
500 Hz wide and about 16 discrete tones, but it was not Olivia and
I couldn't find anything else that would decode it either.  Tried
Contestia and RTTYM and various settings of Thor and DominoEX.
The signals looked and sounded a bit different from Olivia - with
Olivia the spots on the waterfall seem to be more or less random,
whereas with the mystery signal they seemed to be more clustered
around a frequency a little below the center of the group.  And
seemed to have more of a pattern to them.

Jim W6JVE

Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?

[Rein Couperus]

http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/
http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers
http://www.freelists.org/archive/pskmail

73,

Rein PA0R

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Russell Blair" 
> Gesendet: 31.03.09 16:06:37
> An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?


> Andy, that band and frequency can I find a PSKmail server station, 
> I'm trying to get pskmail to Rec. Is there a PSKmail group that I can 
> look into.
> Now I'm on 30m 10.148.50 and I hear some Pactor station.
> 
> Russell 
> 
> Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats 
> why its called the PRESENT!
> 
> " IN GOD WE TRUST " 
> 
> Russell Blair (NC5O)
> Skype-Russell.Blair
> Hell Field #300
> DRCC #55
> 30m Dig-group #693
> 
> --- On  *Tue, 3/31/09, Andy obrien * wrote:
> From: Andy obrien 
> Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
> To: "digitalradio" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:17 AM
> 
> Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ? I
> thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
> America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.
> 
> Andy K3UK
> 
> 

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Re: [digitalradio] Mars system

[Raymond Lunsford]

I can't twell exact but start at 4.0 and go up at 2100 local time or
0700 local USB.Let me k now how it turns out and I'll get you started
intMars.Ray,nnn0evtAKA K4YDI

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:05 AM, n0alo  wrote:
> Greetings
> I have seen some messages about the Mars system using MT-63 etc. I have been
> considering
> joing the Navy Mars but would like to monitor some first.
> Can anyone tell me the frequencys where I can find them.
> Thanks
> Lynn
> RMC USN Ret.
>
> 

[digitalradio] Call for Papers--2009 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications Conference

[Ford, Steve, WB8IMY]

Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the 28th Annual ARRL
and TAPR Digital Communications Conference to be held September 25-27,
2009 in Chicago, Illinois. These papers will also be published in the
Conference Proceedings (you do NOT need to attend the conference to have
your paper included in the Proceedings). The submission deadline is July
31, 2009. Please send papers to:

Maty Weinberg
ARRL
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111

or you can make your submission via e-mail to: m...@arrl.org

Papers will be published exactly as submitted and authors will retain
all rights.

73 . . . Steve, WB8IMY
ARRL

[digitalradio] Mars system

[n0alo]

Greetings
I have seen some messages about the Mars system using MT-63 etc. I have been 
considering
joing the Navy Mars but would like to monitor some first.
Can anyone tell me the frequencys where I can find them. 
Thanks
Lynn
RMC USN Ret.

Re: [digitalradio] Andy - PSKMail Windows server?

[Russell Blair]

Andy, that band and frequency can I find a PSKmail server station, 
I'm trying to get pskmail to Rec. Is there a PSKmail group that I can look into.
Now I'm on 30m 10.148.50 and I hear some Pactor station.
 
Russell 

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, Andy obrien  wrote:

From: Andy obrien 
Subject: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
To: "digitalradio" 
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:17 AM






Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ? I
thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.

Andy K3UK
















  

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Rein Couperus]

Yes, the server is linux only at the moment. Ultimate goal is to use a 
LAMP server without a GUI in future, but fldigi needs the GUI :)
We may also port the server to java some time, but we have to do it 
step by step. 

BTW, it is quite easy to install a server on UBUNTU, The installation 
proces has been automated. Most of the trouble is to get the 
fldigi/trx  combination running, the rest is easy.

73,

Rein PA0R


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Andy obrien" 
> Gesendet: 31.03.09 14:19:31
> An: digitalradio 
> Betreff: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?


> Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ?  I
> thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
> America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.
> 
> Andy K3UK
> 
> 
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[digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?

[Andy obrien]

Is the software for the PSKMAIL sever side Linux based only ?  I
thought it would be useful if we had half-dozen more servers in North
America but having to run Linux may dissuade some.

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Rein - jpskmail with fldigi 3.0

[Russell Blair]

Rein, Tnx for the information I have downloaded jpskmail and now I need to get 
it up and running. I also had to load Java as well. I'm looking for the pskmail 
group to join and get some help.
 
Tnx Russell NC5O

Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why its 
called the PRESENT!


" IN GOD WE TRUST " 

Russell Blair (NC5O)
Skype-Russell.Blair
Hell Field #300
DRCC #55
30m Dig-group #693

--- On Tue, 3/31/09, pa0r  wrote:

From: pa0r 
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 2:51 AM






The difference is:

for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

73,

Rein PA0R

--- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Sholto Fisher  wrote:
>
> Russell,
> 
> MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
> 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
> http://hflink. com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
> throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
> received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
> 
> Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
> for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
> external/expensive proprietary modem.
> 
> In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
> problem but it's still in development.
> 
> As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
> PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
> 
> For high volume or non-amateur "commercial" email you would be better 
> thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
> Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
> 
> 73 Sholto
> K7TMG
> 
> Russell Blair wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
> > my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
> > I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
> > to happen, any help ?
> > 
> > Russell
> > 
> > Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
> > its called the PRESENT!
> > 
> > " IN GOD WE TRUST "
> > 
> > Russell Blair (NC5O)
> > Skype-Russell. Blair
> > Hell Field #300
> > DRCC #55
> > 30m Dig-group #693
> > 
> >
>

















  

[digitalradio] Re: Question about mail servers on HF

[pa0r]

The difference is:

for WL2K you need an account at winlink.org, and you can only do mail.

PSKmail gets your mail from your account at yahoo, and has a dozen more 
interesting uses for mobile stations, like IM and APRS.

73,

Rein PA0R

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher  wrote:
>
> Russell,
> 
> MultiPSK is able to send and received email via Winlink 2000 using its 
> 141A (ALE) mode and one of the HFN pilot stations (see 
> http://hflink.com) which are generally accessible on most HF bands 
> throughout North America. MultiPSK will also allow you to export all the 
> received mail into Outlook Express and allow sending too.
> 
> Throughput is nowhere near as fast as Pactor-III but it does work and 
> for important messages is an acceptable solution that doesn't require an 
> external/expensive proprietary modem.
> 
> In time perhaps the WINMOR mode will be the best solution to your 
> problem but it's still in development.
> 
> As Per said, definitely look into PSKMail too. Perhaps a combination of 
> PSKMail and WL2K ALE could work for you?
> 
> For high volume or non-amateur "commercial" email you would be better 
> thinking about wifi, cellular and/or satellite internet for your RV. 
> Guess it depends how far into the boonies you plan to go.
> 
> 73 Sholto
> K7TMG
> 
> Russell Blair wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We'er going out in the RV for about two weeks, and would like to check 
> > my mail on yahoo.com: Question is there nay mail servers on the HF that 
> > I can check into and get my mail, and what program would I need for this 
> > to happen, any help ?
> > 
> > Russell
> > 
> > Yesterday is HISTORY. Tomorrow is a MYSTERY. Today is a GIFT! Thats why 
> > its called the PRESENT!
> > 
> > " IN GOD WE TRUST "
> > 
> > Russell Blair (NC5O)
> > Skype-Russell. Blair
> > Hell Field #300
> > DRCC #55
> > 30m Dig-group #693
> > 
> >
>