date:20091024

Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK Modes

2009-10-24 Thread Dave Sparks


- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Sparks" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 **Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK 
Modes**


> If you go much above a 2 Khz bandwidth, you're going to start ruling out a
> lot of rigs that don't have the audio bandwidth to pass that wide of a
> signal.  I wonder how PSK 2000 would compare with esisting modes, such as
> Olivia 32/2000 and MT63 at 2 Khz bandwidth.
>
> BTW, your figures seem to indicate that the product of gain times 
> bandwidth
> is roughly a constant in an entire HF system,  just as it is in a 
> transistor
> amplifier.

I should hame mentioned Olivia 64/2000, instead.  I seem to remember that 
FLARQ won't work with Olivia for some reason, but I'm not sure about 
jPSKmail.

Reading the specs on these modes, they actually sound a lot like spread 
spectrum.

--
Dave Sparks
AF6AS
Riverside, CA, USA (DM13gw)

Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK Modes

2009-10-24 Thread Dave Sparks

If you go much above a 2 Khz bandwidth, you're going to start ruling out a 
lot of rigs that don't have the audio bandwidth to pass that wide of a 
signal.  I wonder how PSK 2000 would compare with esisting modes, such as 
Olivia 32/2000 and MT63 at 2 Khz bandwidth.

BTW, your figures seem to indicate that the product of gain times bandwidth 
is roughly a constant in an entire HF system,  just as it is in a transistor 
amplifier.

---
Dave Sparks
AF6AS

- Original Message - 
From: Tony
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 **Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK 
Modes**





Andy,

> Thanks Rein.  Is there a PSK2700 ?   That would certainly get Peter 
> Martinez's eyes
> rolling.

I agree, he would roll his eyes but the throughput would be lightening fast! 
I tried to get Mixw to run at very high speeds a while back just to see if 
it would work. It did, but it seems to stop printing at PSK625.

The path simulator indicated that the minimum signal-to-noise threshold 
increased by roughly 3db each time the word-per-minute / baud rate was 
doubled (see below).

It would be interesting to test PSK63 vs. PSK625 on VHF to see if that wide 
10db difference shows on-air. It should take 10 times the power to maintain 
the same throughput according to the simularor. Difficult to prove on HF 
with all the variables; bandwidth is 2K-plus.


Mode  Minimum SNR

PSK31. -10db
PSK63-7db
PSK125..-4db
PSK250..-2db
PSK500.+2db
PSK625.+3db

Tony -K2MO

[digitalradio] Veterans Day Special Event Station

2009-10-24 Thread kc0pto

Some of you may be interested in working the Veterans Day special Event
Station that the Emporia (KS) Amateur Radio Society is having.  The
Special Event Callsign is  KØV.  We will operate on Saturday the 7th
of November, and of course,  on Veterans Day, November the 11th.

For more information, go to our Website here:
  http://tinyurl.com/yfslbmm 

Hope to see many of you on the air.  We have designed a nice Special
Event QSL Card, which will require a SASE envelope.

73 de KCØPTO
Les Elliott

Re: [digitalradio] OT WEB HOSTING QUESTION

2009-10-24 Thread Scott Hill

I've used "Fat Cow" for a couple of years with no problems.  I think 
they have a few site builder options but I've never tried one.

Scott ( k6ix.net )

Bert Morton wrote:
> I am looking for suggestions for a  reliable and reasonable web hosting 
> company to host a simple website for me.
> 
> It would have to include a site builder option as well.
> 
> Thanks, Bert W1DFU 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at
> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
> 
> Recommended digital mode software:  Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk
> Logging Software:  DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe.
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK Modes

2009-10-24 Thread Tony

Andy, 

> Thanks Rein.  Is there a PSK2700 ?   That would certainly get Peter 
> Martinez's eyes 
> rolling.

I agree, he would roll his eyes but the throughput would be lightening fast! I 
tried to get Mixw to run at very high speeds a while back just to see if it 
would work. It did, but it seems to stop printing at PSK625. 

The path simulator indicated that the minimum signal-to-noise threshold 
increased by roughly 3db each time the word-per-minute / baud rate was doubled 
(see below).  

It would be interesting to test PSK63 vs. PSK625 on VHF to see if that wide 
10db difference shows on-air. It should take 10 times the power to maintain the 
same throughput according to the simularor. Difficult to prove on HF with all 
the variables; bandwidth is 2K-plus. 

 
Mode  Minimum SNR

PSK31. -10db
PSK63-7db 
PSK125..-4db 
PSK250..-2db
PSK500.+2db
PSK625.+3db

Tony -K2MO

[digitalradio] Re: OT WEB HOSTING QUESTION

2009-10-24 Thread Bert Morton


Thank you one and all for all the responses I got re: my query. A whole lot 
of great info for sure !!

73,

Bert W1DFU

RE: [digitalradio] OT WEB HOSTING QUESTION

2009-10-24 Thread Rud Merriam

Check out Google Apps at
http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html. You get a lot of
capability for free. You can register a domain name for them ($10 / year)
which is the only cost. 

There is not a site builder but you can build pages with a WYSIWYG online
editor. 

 
 - 73 - 
Rud Merriam K5RUD 
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
http://mysticlakesoftware.com/


> -Original Message-
> From: Bert Morton [mailto:hamradio...@vermontel.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:42 PM
> To: ubuntuli...@yahoogroups.com; s...@yahoogroups.com; 
> rigblas...@yahoogroups.com; Andy obrien; 
> digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; 
> digitalradio-ow...@yahoogroups.com; 
> forsale-s...@mailman.qth.net; ham-radio-del...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [digitalradio] OT WEB HOSTING QUESTION
> 
> 
> I am looking for suggestions for a  reliable and reasonable 
> web hosting 
> company to host a simple website for me.
> 
> It would have to include a site builder option as well.
> 
> Thanks, Bert W1DFU 
>

[digitalradio] Re: OT WEB HOSTING QUESTION

2009-10-24 Thread obrienaj

My Sked pages have been hosted by doteasy, quite good rates and very stable.  
Customer relations is fairly good, mostly by email responses...but they do 
respond.

Andy K3UK

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Bert Morton"  wrote:
>
> I am looking for suggestions for a  reliable and reasonable web hosting 
> company to host a simple website for me.
> 
> It would have to include a site builder option as well.
> 
> Thanks, Bert W1DFU
>

[digitalradio] OT WEB HOSTING QUESTION

2009-10-24 Thread Bert Morton

I am looking for suggestions for a  reliable and reasonable web hosting 
company to host a simple website for me.

It would have to include a site builder option as well.

Thanks, Bert W1DFU

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list

2009-10-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker

Warren,

>I am not sure I know what you are saying.
>Are you saying I need two list?
No sorry, your list is fine. I was only explaining the gaps that you see.

73
Patrick

  - Original Message - 
  From: Warren Moxley 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list




Patrick,

I am not sure I know what you are saying.
Are you saying I need two list?

Warren - K5WGM


--- On Sat, 10/24/09, Patrick Lindecker  wrote:


  From: Patrick Lindecker 
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 10:02 AM




  Hello Warren,

  >I wanted this info in a spreadsheet so I made a list from you code.
  >Notice the gaps.
  The "first list" (272 possibilities) permits to have codings 
orthogonal (or almost orthogonal) in time and frequency, so not to mix two 
possible contiguous (in time or frequency) RS ID.

  73
  Patrick
- Original Message - 
From: Warren Moxley 
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID 
list


  Patrick,

  I wanted this info in a spreadsheet so I made a list from you 
code.
  Notice the gaps.
   = = = 
1 BPSK31
2 BPSK63
3 QPSK63
4 BPSK125
5 QPSK125

7 PSKFEC31
8 PSK10
9 MT63-500-LG
   10 MT63-500-ST
   11 MT63-500-VST
   12 MT63-1000-LG
   13 MT63-1000-ST
   14 MT63-1000-VST
   15 MT63-2000-LG

   17 MT63-2000-ST
   18 MT63-2000-VST
   19 PSKAM10
   20 PSKAM31
   21 PSKAM50
   22 PSK63F
   23 PSK220F
   24 CHIP-64
   25 CHIP-128
   26 CW
   27 CCW-OOK-12
   28 CCW-OOK-24
   29 CCW-OOK-48
   30 CCW-FSK-12
   31 CCW-FSK-24

   33 CCW-FSK-48
   34 PACTOR1-FEC
   35 PACKET-300
   36 PACKET-1200
   37 ASCII-7
   38 ASCII-8
   39 RTTY-45
   40 RTTY-50
   41 RTTY-75
   42 AMTOR FEC
   43 THROB-1
   44 THROB-2
   45 THROB-4
   46 THROBX-1
   47 THROBX-2

   49 CONTESTIA-8- 250
   50 CONTESTIA-16- 500
   51 CONTESTIA-32- 1000
   52 CONTESTIA-8- 500
   53 CONTESTIA-16- 1000
   54 CONTESTIA-4- 500
   55 CONTESTIA-4- 250
   56 VOICE
   57 MFSK16


   60 MFSK8
   61 RTTYM-8-250
   62 RTTYM-16-500
   63 RTTYM-32-1000

   65 RTTYM-8-500
   66 RTTYM-16-1000
   67 RTTYM-4-500
   68 RTTYM-4-250
   69 OLIVIA-8-250
   70 OLIVIA-16-500
   71 OLIVIA-32-1000
   72 OLIVIA-8-500
   73 OLIVIA-16-1000
   74 OLIVIA-4-500
   75 OLIVIA-4-250
   76 PAX
   77 PAX2
   78 DOMINOF
   79 FAX

   81 SSTV


   84 DOMINOEX-4
   85 DOMINOEX-5
   86 DOMINOEX-8
   87 DOMINOEX-11
   88 DOMINOEX-16

   90 DOMINOEX-22

   92 DOMINOEX-4-FEC
   93 DOMINOEX-5-FEC



   97 DOMINOEX-8-FEC
   98 DOMINOEX-11- FEC
   99 DOMINOEX-16- FEC
  101 DOMINOEX-22- FEC



  104 FELD HELL
  105 PSK HELL
  106 HELL 80
  107 FM HELL-105
  108 FM HELL-245

  110 QPSK31


  113 PACKET-110
  114 141A

  116 OLIVIA-8-1000
  117 CONTESTIA-8- 1000

  119 RTTYM-8-1000



  123 DTMF

  125 ALE400
  126 BPSK250
  127 QPSK250



  131 FDMDV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list

2009-10-24 Thread Warren Moxley

Patrick,

I am not sure I know what you are saying.
Are you saying I need two list?

Warren - K5WGM


--- On Sat, 10/24/09, Patrick Lindecker  wrote:

From: Patrick Lindecker 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 10:02 AM






 





  


Hello Warren,
 
>I wanted this info in a spreadsheet so I made a list from you 
code.
>Notice the gaps.
The "first list" (272 possibilities) permits to 
have codings orthogonal (or almost orthogonal) in time and frequency, so not to 
mix two possible contiguous (in time or frequency) RS ID.
 
73
Patrick

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Warren Moxley 

  To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:49 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID 
  numbers + New official RS ID list
  

  


  Patrick,

I wanted this info in a spreadsheet so I 
made a list from you code.
Notice the 
gaps.
 = = = 
  1 
BPSK31
  2 BPSK63
  3 QPSK63
  4 
BPSK125
  5 QPSK125

  7 PSKFEC31
  8 
PSK10
  9 MT63-500-LG
 10 MT63-500-ST
 11 
MT63-500-VST
 12 MT63-1000-LG
 13 
MT63-1000-ST
 14 MT63-1000-VST
 15 
MT63-2000-LG

 17 MT63-2000-ST
 18 
MT63-2000-VST
 19 PSKAM10
 20 PSKAM31
 21 
PSKAM50
 22 PSK63F
 23 PSK220F
 24 
CHIP-64
 25 CHIP-128
 26 CW
 27 
CCW-OOK-12
 28 CCW-OOK-24
 29 CCW-OOK-48
 30 
CCW-FSK-12
 31 CCW-FSK-24

 33 CCW-FSK-48
 34 
PACTOR1-FEC
 35 PACKET-300
 36 PACKET-1200
 37 
ASCII-7
 38 ASCII-8
 39 RTTY-45
 40 
RTTY-50
 41 RTTY-75
 42 AMTOR FEC
 43 
THROB-1
 44 THROB-2
 45 THROB-4
 46 
THROBX-1
 47 THROBX-2

 49 
CONTESTIA-8- 250
 50 CONTESTIA-16- 500
 51 
CONTESTIA-32- 1000
 52 CONTESTIA-8- 500
 53 
CONTESTIA-16- 1000
 54 CONTESTIA-4- 500
 55 
CONTESTIA-4- 250
 56 VOICE
 57 MFSK16


 60 
MFSK8
 61 RTTYM-8-250
 62 RTTYM-16-500
 63 
RTTYM-32-1000

 65 RTTYM-8-500
 66 
RTTYM-16-1000
 67 RTTYM-4-500
 68 
RTTYM-4-250
 69 OLIVIA-8-250
 70 
OLIVIA-16-500
 71 OLIVIA-32-1000
 72 
OLIVIA-8-500
 73 OLIVIA-16-1000
 74 
OLIVIA-4-500
 75 OLIVIA-4-250
 76 PAX
 77 
PAX2
 78 DOMINOF
 79 FAX

 81 
SSTV


 84 DOMINOEX-4
 85 DOMINOEX-5
 86 
DOMINOEX-8
 87 DOMINOEX-11
 88 
DOMINOEX-16

 90 DOMINOEX-22

 92 
DOMINOEX-4-FEC
 93 DOMINOEX-5-FEC



 97 
DOMINOEX-8-FEC
 98 DOMINOEX-11- FEC
 99 
DOMINOEX-16- FEC
101 DOMINOEX-22- FEC



104 FELD 
HELL
105 PSK HELL
106 HELL 80
107 FM HELL-105
108 FM 
HELL-245

110 QPSK31


113 PACKET-110
114 
141A

116 OLIVIA-8-1000
117 CONTESTIA-8- 1000

119 
RTTYM-8-1000



123 DTMF

125 ALE400
126 
BPSK250
127 QPSK250



131 FDMDV
132 JT65-A

134 
JT65-B
135 JT65-C
136 THOR-4
137 THOR-8
138 THOR-16
139 
THOR-5



143 THOR-11

145 THOR-22
146 
THROBX-4
147 MFSK32
148 MFSK11



152 MFSK22
153 
CALL ID
155 PACKET-PSK1200

156 PACKET-PSK250


159 
PACKET-PSK63



163 OLIVIA-8-125





169 
CONTESTIA-8- 125
170 RTTYM-8-125

172 110A-8N1
173 
BPSK500
 = = = = =

73, 
Warren - K5WGM

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, obrienaj 
 wrote:


From: 
  obrienaj 
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: 
  RSID numbers + New official RS ID list
To: 
  digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:24 
  AM


    
  
  Thank you Patrick.

Andy

--- In digitalradio@ 
  yahoogroups. com, "obrienaj"  
  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In digitalradio@ 
  yahoogroups. com, "Patrick Lindecker"  
  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Rein,
> > 
> 
  > Thanks to ask only for the necessary (really implemented) , as 
  there are so 
> > many possible RSID numbers (272).
> 
  > 
> > For BPSK500 it will be 173.
> > Below is 
  the new RS ID list with this new mode.
> > 
> > 
  73
> > Patrick
> 
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list

2009-10-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker

Hello Warren,

>I wanted this info in a spreadsheet so I made a list from you code.
>Notice the gaps.
The "first list" (272 possibilities) permits to have codings orthogonal (or 
almost orthogonal) in time and frequency, so not to mix two possible contiguous 
(in time or frequency) RS ID.

73
Patrick
  - Original Message - 
  From: Warren Moxley 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list




Patrick,

I wanted this info in a spreadsheet so I made a list from you code.
Notice the gaps.
===
  1 BPSK31
  2 BPSK63
  3 QPSK63
  4 BPSK125
  5 QPSK125

  7 PSKFEC31
  8 PSK10
  9 MT63-500-LG
 10 MT63-500-ST
 11 MT63-500-VST
 12 MT63-1000-LG
 13 MT63-1000-ST
 14 MT63-1000-VST
 15 MT63-2000-LG

 17 MT63-2000-ST
 18 MT63-2000-VST
 19 PSKAM10
 20 PSKAM31
 21 PSKAM50
 22 PSK63F
 23 PSK220F
 24 CHIP-64
 25 CHIP-128
 26 CW
 27 CCW-OOK-12
 28 CCW-OOK-24
 29 CCW-OOK-48
 30 CCW-FSK-12
 31 CCW-FSK-24

 33 CCW-FSK-48
 34 PACTOR1-FEC
 35 PACKET-300
 36 PACKET-1200
 37 ASCII-7
 38 ASCII-8
 39 RTTY-45
 40 RTTY-50
 41 RTTY-75
 42 AMTOR FEC
 43 THROB-1
 44 THROB-2
 45 THROB-4
 46 THROBX-1
 47 THROBX-2

 49 CONTESTIA-8-250
 50 CONTESTIA-16-500
 51 CONTESTIA-32-1000
 52 CONTESTIA-8-500
 53 CONTESTIA-16-1000
 54 CONTESTIA-4-500
 55 CONTESTIA-4-250
 56 VOICE
 57 MFSK16


 60 MFSK8
 61 RTTYM-8-250
 62 RTTYM-16-500
 63 RTTYM-32-1000

 65 RTTYM-8-500
 66 RTTYM-16-1000
 67 RTTYM-4-500
 68 RTTYM-4-250
 69 OLIVIA-8-250
 70 OLIVIA-16-500
 71 OLIVIA-32-1000
 72 OLIVIA-8-500
 73 OLIVIA-16-1000
 74 OLIVIA-4-500
 75 OLIVIA-4-250
 76 PAX
 77 PAX2
 78 DOMINOF
 79 FAX

 81 SSTV


 84 DOMINOEX-4
 85 DOMINOEX-5
 86 DOMINOEX-8
 87 DOMINOEX-11
 88 DOMINOEX-16

 90 DOMINOEX-22

 92 DOMINOEX-4-FEC
 93 DOMINOEX-5-FEC



 97 DOMINOEX-8-FEC
 98 DOMINOEX-11-FEC
 99 DOMINOEX-16-FEC
101 DOMINOEX-22-FEC



104 FELD HELL
105 PSK HELL
106 HELL 80
107 FM HELL-105
108 FM HELL-245

110 QPSK31


113 PACKET-110
114 141A

116 OLIVIA-8-1000
117 CONTESTIA-8-1000

119 RTTYM-8-1000



123 DTMF

125 ALE400
126 BPSK250
127 QPSK250



131 FDMDV
132 JT65-A

134 JT65-B
135 JT65-C
136 THOR-4
137 THOR-8
138 THOR-16
139 THOR-5



143 THOR-11

145 THOR-22
146 THROBX-4
147 MFSK32
148 MFSK11



152 MFSK22
153 CALL ID
155 PACKET-PSK1200

156 PACKET-PSK250


159 PACKET-PSK63



163 OLIVIA-8-125





169 CONTESTIA-8-125
170 RTTYM-8-125

172 110A-8N1
173 BPSK500
=

73, Warren - K5WGM

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, obrienaj  wrote:


  From: obrienaj 
  Subject: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:24 AM



  Thank you Patrick.

  Andy

  --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "obrienaj"  
wrote:
  >
  > 
  > 
  > --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "Patrick Lindecker"  
wrote:
  > >
  > > Hello Rein,
  > > 
  > > Thanks to ask only for the necessary (really implemented) , as 
there are so 
  > > many possible RSID numbers (272).
  > > 
  > > For BPSK500 it will be 173.
  > > Below is the new RS ID list with this new mode.
  > > 
  > > 73
  > > Patrick
  > >
  >

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list

2009-10-24 Thread Warren Moxley

Patrick,

I wanted this info in a spreadsheet so I made a list from you code.
Notice the gaps.
===
  1 BPSK31
  2 BPSK63
  3 QPSK63
  4 BPSK125
  5 QPSK125

  7 PSKFEC31
  8 PSK10
  9 MT63-500-LG
 10 MT63-500-ST
 11 MT63-500-VST
 12 MT63-1000-LG
 13 MT63-1000-ST
 14 MT63-1000-VST
 15 MT63-2000-LG

 17 MT63-2000-ST
 18 MT63-2000-VST
 19 PSKAM10
 20 PSKAM31
 21 PSKAM50
 22 PSK63F
 23 PSK220F
 24 CHIP-64
 25 CHIP-128
 26 CW
 27 CCW-OOK-12
 28 CCW-OOK-24
 29 CCW-OOK-48
 30 CCW-FSK-12
 31 CCW-FSK-24

 33 CCW-FSK-48
 34 PACTOR1-FEC
 35 PACKET-300
 36 PACKET-1200
 37 ASCII-7
 38 ASCII-8
 39 RTTY-45
 40 RTTY-50
 41 RTTY-75
 42 AMTOR FEC
 43 THROB-1
 44 THROB-2
 45 THROB-4
 46 THROBX-1
 47 THROBX-2

 49 CONTESTIA-8-250
 50 CONTESTIA-16-500
 51 CONTESTIA-32-1000
 52 CONTESTIA-8-500
 53 CONTESTIA-16-1000
 54 CONTESTIA-4-500
 55 CONTESTIA-4-250
 56 VOICE
 57 MFSK16


 60 MFSK8
 61 RTTYM-8-250
 62 RTTYM-16-500
 63 RTTYM-32-1000

 65 RTTYM-8-500
 66 RTTYM-16-1000
 67 RTTYM-4-500
 68 RTTYM-4-250
 69 OLIVIA-8-250
 70 OLIVIA-16-500
 71 OLIVIA-32-1000
 72 OLIVIA-8-500
 73 OLIVIA-16-1000
 74 OLIVIA-4-500
 75 OLIVIA-4-250
 76 PAX
 77 PAX2
 78 DOMINOF
 79 FAX

 81 SSTV


 84 DOMINOEX-4
 85 DOMINOEX-5
 86 DOMINOEX-8
 87 DOMINOEX-11
 88 DOMINOEX-16

 90 DOMINOEX-22

 92 DOMINOEX-4-FEC
 93 DOMINOEX-5-FEC



 97 DOMINOEX-8-FEC
 98 DOMINOEX-11-FEC
 99 DOMINOEX-16-FEC
101 DOMINOEX-22-FEC



104 FELD HELL
105 PSK HELL
106 HELL 80
107 FM HELL-105
108 FM HELL-245

110 QPSK31


113 PACKET-110
114 141A

116 OLIVIA-8-1000
117 CONTESTIA-8-1000

119 RTTYM-8-1000



123 DTMF

125 ALE400
126 BPSK250
127 QPSK250



131 FDMDV
132 JT65-A

134 JT65-B
135 JT65-C
136 THOR-4
137 THOR-8
138 THOR-16
139 THOR-5



143 THOR-11

145 THOR-22
146 THROBX-4
147 MFSK32
148 MFSK11



152 MFSK22
153 CALL ID
155 PACKET-PSK1200

156 PACKET-PSK250


159 PACKET-PSK63



163 OLIVIA-8-125





169 CONTESTIA-8-125
170 RTTYM-8-125

172 110A-8N1
173 BPSK500
=

73, Warren - K5WGM

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, obrienaj  wrote:

From: obrienaj 
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:24 AM






 





  Thank you Patrick.



Andy



--- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "obrienaj"  wrote:

>

> 

> 

> --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "Patrick Lindecker"  wrote:

> >

> > Hello Rein,

> > 

> > Thanks to ask only for the necessary (really implemented) , as there are so 

> > many possible RSID numbers (272).

> > 

> > For BPSK500 it will be 173.

> > Below is the new RS ID list with this new mode.

> > 

> > 73

> > Patrick

> >

>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: wandering ... screenshot . AV (MS) and AW (Puppy)

2009-10-24 Thread Andy obrien

Thanks Rein.  My settings are the same except that I do not have a
narrow filter employed all the time.  However, reducing my IF DSP
settings to the narrowest setting on a TS2000 still causes fldigi to
move towards a nearby unwanted signal and put it outside the range of
a client/server that I may be in contact with.  While typing this,
with narrow filter and AFc off, I moved 125 Hz and stayed there (in
PSK250 mode).




On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Rein Couperus  wrote:
> The settings are at http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/FAQ+Radio
>
> I have these on PI4TUE, DA5UWG and PA0R (of course all running linuxes),
> and none of the systems has the problems you describe.
>
> .Attached a screenshot of PI4TUE during a pactor attack...
> the pactor signal is S9, and the system remains on freq, which is 1500 Hz
> for the ICOM 756...
>
> The second screen shot, taken at the same time at PA0R with the DSP of the K3
> open, shows it is actually a pactor 3 signal (pactor 3 is not alowed in 
> region 1.
> max allowed bandwidth is 500 Hz), having a bandwidth of some 2 kHz...
> The pactor signal is S9. Again here the cursor remains at exactly 1000 Hz.
>
> 73,
>
> Rein PA0R
>
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: "Andy obrien" 
>> Gesendet: 24.10.09 15:38:16
>> An: fldigi-alpha 
>> Betreff: Re: wandering ... screenshot . AV (MS) and AW (Puppy)
>
>
>> The screenshot at  http://www.obriensweb.com/fldigi.jpg  shows both
>> fldigi and Multipsk in PSK250 mode and set originally to 1000 Hz on
>> the waterfall.  Tuned to a position near a moderate strength SSB phone
>> signal.  The picture shows fldigi (while jpskmail is open) dragged
>>  away from 1000 hz by the presence of the phone signal, down to 840
>> Hz. Multipsk remains at 1000 (998).  This is using AV under Windows, I
>> will move on to AW now.
>>
>> Under AW , I can replicate the same phenomena under the Puppy with
>> fldigi 3.13AV and the PSKMAIL SERVER (I do not use client under linux)
>> .  With a strong RTTY signal nearby and fldigi AV running alone,
>> fldigi stays  fairly stead as I tune towards the RTTY station, the
>> waterfall place holds within 20Hz.  With the pskmail server active ,
>> it wanders all over the place.
>>
>> Under Windows the wandering continues in fldigi even if javapskmail is
>> closed, it stops wandering if I close both and then boot up fldigi
>> alone.  Under Linux, the wandering stops if I close the server and
>> leave fldigi running.
>>
>> Again, I remain open to the possibility that this is due to my settings.
>>
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[digitalradio] Re: wandering ... screenshot . AV (MS) and AW (Puppy) [2 Attachments]

2009-10-24 Thread Rein Couperus

<*>[Attachment(s) from Rein Couperus included below]

The settings are at http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/FAQ+Radio

I have these on PI4TUE, DA5UWG and PA0R (of course all running linuxes),
and none of the systems has the problems you describe.

.Attached a screenshot of PI4TUE during a pactor attack...
the pactor signal is S9, and the system remains on freq, which is 1500 Hz 
for the ICOM 756...

The second screen shot, taken at the same time at PA0R with the DSP of the K3 
open, shows it is actually a pactor 3 signal (pactor 3 is not alowed in region 
1. 
max allowed bandwidth is 500 Hz), having a bandwidth of some 2 kHz...
The pactor signal is S9. Again here the cursor remains at exactly 1000 Hz.

73, 

Rein PA0R


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "Andy obrien" 
> Gesendet: 24.10.09 15:38:16
> An: fldigi-alpha 
> Betreff: Re: wandering ... screenshot . AV (MS) and AW (Puppy)


> The screenshot at  http://www.obriensweb.com/fldigi.jpg  shows both
> fldigi and Multipsk in PSK250 mode and set originally to 1000 Hz on
> the waterfall.  Tuned to a position near a moderate strength SSB phone
> signal.  The picture shows fldigi (while jpskmail is open) dragged
>  away from 1000 hz by the presence of the phone signal, down to 840
> Hz. Multipsk remains at 1000 (998).  This is using AV under Windows, I
> will move on to AW now.
> 
> Under AW , I can replicate the same phenomena under the Puppy with
> fldigi 3.13AV and the PSKMAIL SERVER (I do not use client under linux)
> .  With a strong RTTY signal nearby and fldigi AV running alone,
> fldigi stays  fairly stead as I tune towards the RTTY station, the
> waterfall place holds within 20Hz.  With the pskmail server active ,
> it wanders all over the place.
> 
> Under Windows the wandering continues in fldigi even if javapskmail is
> closed, it stops wandering if I close both and then boot up fldigi
> alone.  Under Linux, the wandering stops if I close the server and
> leave fldigi running.
> 
> Again, I remain open to the possibility that this is due to my settings.
> 
> Andy K3UK
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<*>Attachment(s) from Rein Couperus:

<*> 2 of 2 Photo(s) 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/attachments/folder/1515301245/item/list
 
  <*> Screenshot-PI4TUE - Remote Desktop Viewer.png
  <*> Screenshot-1.png



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Re: [digitalradio] PSK500

2009-10-24 Thread Andy obrien

Thanks Rein.  Is there a PSK2700 ?   That would certainly get Peter
Martinez's eyes rolling.



Andy K3UK


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Rein Couperus  wrote:
> I am testing PSK500 on HF at the moment. It fits nicely in a 500 Hz filter, 
> and is
> lightning fast on a clean link...
>
> I can see it used only for arq message transfer, with automatic fallback to 
> slower speeds and
> bandwidth...
>
> Rein PA0R
>

Re: [digitalradio] PSK500

2009-10-24 Thread Rein Couperus

I am testing PSK500 on HF at the moment. It fits nicely in a 500 Hz filter, and 
is 
lightning fast on a clean link... 

I can see it used only for arq message transfer, with automatic fallback to 
slower speeds and 
bandwidth...

Rein PA0R

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: "obrienaj" 
> Gesendet: 24.10.09 13:24:07
> An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [digitalradio] PSK500


> So, where are people using PSK500, on VHF ?  Is it mainly for message 
> transfers?
> 
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[digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list

2009-10-24 Thread obrienaj

Thank you Patrick.



Andy


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "obrienaj"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker"  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Rein,
> > 
> > Thanks to ask only for the necessary (really implemented), as there are so 
> > many possible RSID numbers (272).
> > 
> > For BPSK500 it will be 173.
> > Below is the new RS ID list with this new mode.
> > 
> > 73
> > Patrick
> >
>

[digitalradio] PSK500

2009-10-24 Thread obrienaj

So, where are people using PSK500, on VHF ?  Is it mainly for message transfers?

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list

2009-10-24 Thread obrienaj



--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Lindecker"  wrote:
>
> Hello Rein,
> 
> Thanks to ask only for the necessary (really implemented), as there are so 
> many possible RSID numbers (272).
> 
> For BPSK500 it will be 173.
> Below is the new RS ID list with this new mode.
> 
> 73
> Patrick
>

[digitalradio] RSID numbers + New official RS ID list

2009-10-24 Thread Patrick Lindecker

Hello Rein,

Thanks to ask only for the necessary (really implemented), as there are so 
many possible RSID numbers (272).

For BPSK500 it will be 173.
Below is the new RS ID list with this new mode.

73
Patrick

 IF NUMBER=1 THEN MODE:='BPSK31' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=2 THEN MODE:='BPSK63' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=3 THEN MODE:='QPSK63' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=4 THEN MODE:='BPSK125' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=5 THEN MODE:='QPSK125' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=7 THEN MODE:='PSKFEC31' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=8 THEN MODE:='PSK10' ELSE

 {"MT63" parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: "500", "1000" (1000 Hz) or 
"2000" (2000 Hz),
  parameter 2: "LG" (Long), "ST" (Short) or "VST" (Very short)
 Example: MT63-1000-LG}
 IF NUMBER=9 THEN MODE:='MT63-500-LG' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=10 THEN MODE:='MT63-500-ST' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=11 THEN MODE:='MT63-500-VST' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=12 THEN MODE:='MT63-1000-LG' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=13 THEN MODE:='MT63-1000-ST' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=14 THEN MODE:='MT63-1000-VST' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=15 THEN MODE:='MT63-2000-LG' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=17 THEN MODE:='MT63-2000-ST' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=18 THEN MODE:='MT63-2000-VST' ELSE

 IF NUMBER=19 THEN MODE:='PSKAM10' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=20 THEN MODE:='PSKAM31' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=21 THEN MODE:='PSKAM50' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=22 THEN MODE:='PSK63F' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=23 THEN MODE:='PSK220F' ELSE

 {"CHIP 64" parameter 1 (parameter 1: "64" or "128"), Example: CHIP-64}
 IF NUMBER=24 THEN MODE:='CHIP-64' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=25 THEN MODE:='CHIP-128' ELSE

 IF NUMBER=26 THEN MODE:='CW' ELSE

 {"CCW" parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: "OOK" or "FSK",
   parameter 2: "12" (12 wpm), "24" (24 wpm) or "48" (48 wpm)
  Examples: CCW-OOK-12 or CCW-FSK-24}
 IF NUMBER=27 THEN MODE:='CCW-OOK-12' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=28 THEN MODE:='CCW-OOK-24' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=29 THEN MODE:='CCW-OOK-48' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=30 THEN MODE:='CCW-FSK-12' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=31 THEN MODE:='CCW-FSK-24' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=33 THEN MODE:='CCW-FSK-48' ELSE

 {Pactor1 ARQ not RX/TX in Multipsk 4.1.1}
 IF NUMBER=34 THEN MODE:='PACTOR1-FEC' ELSE

 {"PACKET" parameter 1 (parameter 1: "300" (bauds) or "1200" 
(bauds)),Example: PACKET-300}
 IF NUMBER=35 THEN MODE:='PACKET-300' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=36 THEN MODE:='PACKET-1200' ELSE

 {"ASCII" parameter 1 (parameter 1: "7" (7 bits) or "8" (8 bits)), Example: 
ASCII-7}
 IF NUMBER=37 THEN MODE:='ASCII-7' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=38 THEN MODE:='ASCII-8' ELSE

 {"RTTY" parameter 1 (parameter 1: "45" (45 bauds), "50" (50 bauds), "75" 
(75 bauds)), Example: RTTY-45}
 IF NUMBER=39 THEN MODE:='RTTY-45' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=40 THEN MODE:='RTTY-50' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=41 THEN MODE:='RTTY-75' ELSE

 IF NUMBER=42 THEN MODE:='AMTOR FEC' ELSE

 {"THROB" parameter 1 (parameter 1: "1" (1 baud), "2" (2 bauds) or "4" (4 
bauds)), Example: THROB-2}
 IF NUMBER=43 THEN MODE:='THROB-1' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=44 THEN MODE:='THROB-2' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=45 THEN MODE:='THROB-4' ELSE

 {"THROBX" parameter 1 (parameter 1: "1" (1 baud) or "2" (2 bauds)), 
Example: THROBX-2}
 IF NUMBER=46 THEN MODE:='THROBX-1' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=47 THEN MODE:='THROBX-2' ELSE

 {"CONTESTIA" parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: "4" (4 tones),  "8" (8 
tones), "16" (16 tones), "32" (32 tones), parameter 2: "250" (B=250 Hz), 
"500" (B=500 Hz) or "1000" (B=1000 Hz))...same parameters as OLIVIA
  Examples: CONTESTIA-32-1000 or CONTESTIA-8-500
  Note: the following are the main Contestia modes:
  CONTESTIA-4-250, CONTESTIA-4-500, CONTESTIA-8-250, CONTESTIA-8-500, 
CONTESTIA-16-500, CONTESTIA-16-1000, CONTESTIA-32-1000}
 IF NUMBER=49 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-8-250' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=50 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-16-500' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=51 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-32-1000' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=52 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-8-500' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=53 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-16-1000' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=54 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-4-500' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=55 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-4-250' ELSE

 IF NUMBER=56 THEN MODE:='VOICE' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=57 THEN MODE:='MFSK16' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=60 THEN MODE:='MFSK8' ELSE

 {"RTTYM" parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: "4" (4 tones),  "8" (8 
tones), "16" (16 tones), "32" (32 tones), parameter 2: "250" (B=250 Hz), 
"500" (B=500 Hz) or "1000" (B=1000 Hz))...same parameters as OLIVIA
 Examples: RTTYM-32-1000 or RTTYM-8-500
 Note: the following are the main RTTYM modes: RTTYM-4-250, RTTYM-4-500, 
RTTYM-8-250, RTTYM-8-500, RTTYM-16-500, RTTYM-16-1000, RTTYM-32-1000}
 IF NUMBER=61 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-8-250' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=62 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-16-500' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=63 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-32-1000' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=65 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-8-500' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=66 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-16-1000' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=67 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-4-500' ELSE
 IF NUMBER=68 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-4-250' ELSE

 {"OLIVIA" parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: "4" (4 tones),  "8" (8 
tones), "16" (16 tones), "32" (32 tones), parameter 2: "250" (B=250 Hz), 
"500" (B=500 Hz) or "1000" (B=1000 Hz))
 Examples: OLIVIA-32-1000 or OLIVIA-8-500
 Note: the following are the main Olivia modes: OLIVIA-4-250, OLIVIA-4-500, 
OLIVIA-8-250, OLIVIA-8-500, OLIVIA-16-500, OLIVIA-16-1000, OLIVIA-32-1000}
 IF NUMBER=69 THEN MODE

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