Re: [digitalradio] Packet configurations?

2010-01-30 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Hi Bert,

bass2444 wrote:
 I want to start up a packet system:  What cables and software do I need to 
 use my VX5 as a packet engine using Outpost software?  I want to use my 
 Gateway LT2022u XP netbook's soundcard and USB connections.  No serial 
 connections and no external TNC please.
 
 So far the best I've found is the: BUXCOMM RASCAL-II is the easiest 
 Plug-N-Play sound card interface available today. Use the sound card software 
 for the AFSK Digital mode you wish to operate.  There are no serial or USB 
 driver software to load or install, nor comports to select.  One RASCAL-II to 
 Transceiver cable is included.  Supports All AFSK Data  Voice Modes - The 
 BUXCOMM RASCAL II supports ALL AFSK, Digital and Voice modes that are 
 available for sound card interfaces.  This includes ALL traditional modes 
 such as AFSK operation of PSK31, CW, RTTY, Packet, MT-63 and SSTV.  On-line 
 reviews are less than positive but they are also several years old.
 
 Does the RASCAL-II work as advertised?  Are there other configurations I 
 should consider?  Do I need AGWPE or some other software?

FYI You could try the Outpost group here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OutpostPacket

HiH

73 de ZR1HPC
Hylton
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[digitalradio] NZ4O Radiowave Propagation Forecast #2010-05

2010-01-30 Thread Thomas F. Giella NZ4O
I originally sent this propagation forecast out on Friday morning 01/29/2010 
but email problems prevented it's distribution.

The NZ4O Daily LF/MF/HF/6M Frequency Radiowave Propagation Forecast #2010-05
has been published at 1400 UTC on Friday 01/29/2009, valid  UTC Saturday
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and http://www.wcflunatall.com/nz4o3.htm .

73  GUD DX,
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Lakeland, FL, USA
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[digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active.

2010-01-30 Thread Andy obrien
Interesting data , Tony.  I am was surprised that our similar computers have
so dissimilar results.  So , I checked a few things on different PCs here at
my location.  Here are my results, The CPU demand is based on maximizing
Multipsk's tasks (SDR-Direct active, with full RS-ID on and regular
waterfall at 4 Khz) . Casual readers of this thread should note that
Multipsk under most common scenarios for ham radio,  uses much less CPU than
below.

Shack Computer (Dell Opitiplex GX260 , 2.3 Ghz CPU single core , 1 gig RAM.
Windows XP.  Multipsk  = 95-100+ % (not usable)
Home PC  (Dell Optiplex GX270 , 2.7 CPU single core , 512 RAM, WIndows XP.
Multipsk = 65%  , worked well.)
Low end Acer Latop , 3 gig RAM, Windows 7.   .  Multipsk = 75%, worked fine.

Ironic that the one PC I want to get Multipsk to work on is the one PC that
it does poorly on !  The good news is that when maximizing Multipsk on a
basic PC , with not a lot of other  things multi-tasking, Multipsk will
work.  I am especially  pleased to see it work well on the Windows 7 laptop
which only cost $247.00

So while the  desktop computers do not have identical parameters (different
system files, ect) , I am intrigued about the 30-35% less CPU demand on the
PC with only 512 RAM but .4 Ghz more processing speed .  Does .4 ghz more
speed usually make that much difference..  Your outcomes , Tony, also
intrige me about what difference I might discover if I add another gig of
RAM to my 2.3 CPU ham PC.

Andy K3UK


On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:


  [Attachment(s) #1267d4450f7a3165_TopText from Tony included below]


 Andy,

 I configured Multipsk as you described and the CPU usage seems to average
 about 5 percent. Panoramic mode is about the same. I've included a few
 screen shots so you could see the results.

 Mixw seems to tax the CPU the same way as Multipsk does, but Fldigi needs
 a bit more to run - CPU usage jumped to 10%. I guess it's the difference in
 RAM.

 Would like to hear how the Vista laptop works out. Please let use know.

 Tony -K2MO

 PS: We're about the same here Andy, thanks for asking. Still waiting for
 research to catch up with type-I. Hope all is well with you and yours my
 friend.





 - Original Message -
 From: Andy obrien
 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band



 Tony, my shack PC sounds like yours.  A Dell P4, 2.3 CPU , but only 1 gig
 of RAM.  Perhaps we can compare current system resource utilization for
 regular Multipsk ?

 Regular Multipsk in PSK31 mode with a 4,3 Khz waterfall uses 25 % of CPU.
 With RS ID on , about the same 25-26%

 With Panoramic decode.. CPU increases to around 30%.

 Then Multipsk with Direct I/Q mode invoked  ,   CPU increases to 60%

 Then RS ID in SDR /IQ direct  invoked, Multipsk uses 90% of my CPU.


 The above is JUST Multipsk related, obviously other applications , like a
 web browser being open, add more demand.

 My daughter is away skiing this weekend, so I may borrow her Vista laptop
 and do a comparison.  I do not know what is realistic  for Multipsk with all
 its SDR receive capability and RS ID.  I don;t really understand what actual
 performance increase one could expect if CPU was 3.0 Ghz rather than 2.3,
 Also not sure what performance improvement going to a dual core around the
 same clock speed would produce.  On my shack PC, Multipsk seems close , I
 am guessing if I could eek out another 10%  it would run just fine.  I'm
 reluctant to put more RAM in to an old machine, but I do have a compatible 1
 Gig memory chip that i could pilfer from another PC and see if 2 gigs of RAM
 ease demand on the CPU.  I'm guessing it would not make much difference.  I
 do have plenty of HD space.


 Hope you and the family are all OK,

 Andy.





 Andy









 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:


  Andy,

 I plan on switching to SDR in the near future. My current PC is a dual CPU
 2.2GHz Dell with 3 GHz RAM. Any idea what the minimum PC requirement is to
 run Multipsk with SDR? Could you also tell us what processor you're running
 now?

 Thanks,

 Tony -K2MO

 - Original Message -
 From: Andy obrien
 To: digitalradio
 Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:11 AM
 Subject: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band



 One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an SDR receiver,
 is the ability to keep an eye on the whole 14065 to 14115 frequency
 range. If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400 traffic, I would
 miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area. I would also
 miss Hell signals at 14068. Now the SDR affords the opportunity to
 keep an eye all all at once. My venture in to SDR from a digital mode
 perspective has led to a discovery that, other than Multipsk, the
 current state of the art does not support direct monitoring of wider
 I/Q data. I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot 

Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-01-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Tony,

According to my tests, it is only the capacity to do calculations which is the 
key, as a lot of digital processng is done (for example for SDR or Panoramics). 
I don't think RAM is important. I mean either you have sufficient memory or you 
have not (and you will have a  message error). But if you have enough, having 
double or four more that the minimum does not change anything.

Note: with or without BPSK31 panoramic, I have about 2 % of CPU usage.

73
Patrick


  - Original Message - 
  From: Tony 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 4:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band





  Patrick,

  Thanks for the information. As you may have read from my reply to Andy, my 
CPU usage seems to be very low with Multipsk. It's well below 10%. 

  Is there a particular Multipsk mode or configuration that would tax the 
system? I'd like to try it and see how it affects CPU usage. 

  Merci mon ami... 

  Tony -K2MO

- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Lindecker 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band


  

Hello Tony,

I have here two PC XP at about 2.4 GHz (single core):

I have compare these two XP computers on the same file to decode (in 110A):
* the first one (the oldest) which is an AMD Atlon 2500+ 1.09 GHz 768 Ko 
RAM takes 75 seconds to decode it,
* the second one which is an AMD Atlon 2400+ 2 GHz 736 Ko RAM takes 20 
seconds to decode it.

On the most modern (about 3 years old) with SdR and RS ID detection on 44 
KHz, the CPU load is about 35 to 40 %, but on the old one it is 100 % (the 
program does not work in fact).

So normally with a modern PC it is OK. With an old PC, it can be 
problematic.

Note: with my Vista laptop (dual core), the CPU load is about 25 % in the 
same conditions.

73
Patrick



  - Original Message - 
  From: Tony 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band


   Andy,

  I plan on switching to SDR in the near future. My current PC is a dual 
CPU 2.2GHz Dell with 3 GHz RAM. Any idea what the minimum PC requirement is to 
run Multipsk with SDR? Could you also tell us what processor you're running now?

  Thanks,  

  Tony -K2MO 

- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien 
To: digitalradio 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:11 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band


  
One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an SDR receiver,
is the ability to keep an eye on the whole 14065 to 14115 frequency
range. If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400 traffic, I would
miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area. I would also
miss Hell signals at 14068. Now the SDR affords the opportunity to
keep an eye all all at once. My venture in to SDR from a digital mode
perspective has led to a discovery that, other than Multipsk, the
current state of the art does not support direct monitoring of wider
I/Q data. I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot cope with the
Multipsk CPU demand when I try direct monitoring. So, at the moment I
am visually monitoring signals with the SDR and using traditional
software methods to decode the 3-4 kHz of audio that is fed from the
SDR to applications like DM780 or Fldigi.

At this screen shot http://www.obriensweb.com/sdrdm780.jpg

you will see how it appears. I am simply using DM780 and SDR-Radio
software together. When I need to transmit, I just use my TS2000
after dialing in the signal discovered by the SDR receiver. Simon
HB9DRV will likely integrate these two applications later in 2010.

I did catch a Russian on RTTY this morning that I would have otherwise
missed while I was slumming it in PSK31-land.. Multisk does RS-ID
over this entire 14065-14115 portion, and DM780 is likely going to
include this ability in the future. If people use RS-ID often enough,
it will be really cool to monitor 14065-14115 and get RS ID alerts.

So, just over a week playing around with the SDR receiver... I see the
potential... digital mode applications are not quite there yet.
When they are there (as in Multipsk) my PC isn't. This $41.00 Ebay
PC may eventually get retired for a slightly improved one with better
CPU. OK, back to keeping an eye on 14065-14115. A-ha, an SV3 calling
CQ RTTY, 14082.

Andy K3UK








Re: [digitalradio] Packet configurations?

2010-01-30 Thread John Becker, WØJAB


At 11:21 AM 1/29/2010, you wrote: (in part)

:  No serial connections and no external TNC please.

Is there a reason?





Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active.

2010-01-30 Thread Tony
Andy,

Thanks for posting your CPU test results with Multipsk. 
Patrick mentioned that he doesn't think RAM is important in 
this case and adding more than the minimum memory 
requirement wouldn't change anything; I guess that leaves 
the processor.

It just seems odd that there would be a large disparity in 
CPU usage since both processors run similar clock speeds 
(yours is actually faster). My Dell has a Pentium dual core 
E2200 and I'm wondering if the difference is due to the dual 
vs. single core?

The CPU demand is based on maximizing Multipsk's tasks 
(SDR-
Direct active, with full RS-ID on and regular waterfall at 
4 Khz)

Would it be possible for me to run the SDR feature without 
actually having and SDR rig attached? If so, how can I 
activate it?

Tony -K2MO




- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:22 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ 
Direct active.



Interesting data , Tony.  I am was surprised that our 
similar computers have so dissimilar results.  So , I 
checked a few things on different PCs here at my location. 
Here are my results, The CPU demand is based on maximizing 
Multipsk's tasks (SDR-Direct active, with full RS-ID on and 
regular waterfall at 4 Khz) . Casual readers of this thread 
should note that Multipsk under most common scenarios for 
ham radio,  uses much less CPU than below.

Shack Computer (Dell Opitiplex GX260 , 2.3 Ghz CPU single 
core , 1 gig RAM.  Windows XP.  Multipsk  = 95-100+ % (not 
usable)
Home PC  (Dell Optiplex GX270 , 2.7 CPU single core , 512 
RAM, WIndows XP.  Multipsk = 65%  , worked well.)
Low end Acer Latop , 3 gig RAM, Windows 7.   .  Multipsk = 
75%, worked fine.

Ironic that the one PC I want to get Multipsk to work on is 
the one PC that it does poorly on !  The good news is that 
when maximizing Multipsk on a basic PC , with not a lot of 
other  things multi-tasking, Multipsk will work.  I am 
especially  pleased to see it work well on the Windows 7 
laptop which only cost $247.00

So while the  desktop computers do not have identical 
parameters (different system files, ect) , I am intrigued 
about the 30-35% less CPU demand on the PC with only 512 RAM 
but .4 Ghz more processing speed .  Does .4 ghz more speed 
usually make that much difference..  Your outcomes , Tony, 
also intrige me about what difference I might discover if I 
add another gig of RAM to my 2.3 CPU ham PC.

Andy K3UK



On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net 
wrote:


[Attachment(s) from Tony included below]

Andy,

I configured Multipsk as you described and the CPU usage 
seems to average about 5 percent. Panoramic mode is about 
the same. I've included a few screen shots so you could see 
the results.

Mixw seems to tax the CPU the same way as Multipsk does, but 
Fldigi needs a bit more to run - CPU usage jumped to 10%. I 
guess it's the difference in RAM.

Would like to hear how the Vista laptop works out. Please 
let use know.

Tony -K2MO

PS: We're about the same here Andy, thanks for asking. Still 
waiting for research to catch up with type-I. Hope all is 
well with you and yours my friend.





- Original Message - 
From: Andy obrien
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital 
Band



Tony, my shack PC sounds like yours.  A Dell P4, 2.3 CPU , 
but only 1 gig of RAM.  Perhaps we can compare current 
system resource utilization for regular Multipsk ?

Regular Multipsk in PSK31 mode with a 4,3 Khz waterfall uses 
25 % of CPU.
With RS ID on , about the same 25-26%

With Panoramic decode.. CPU increases to around 30%.

Then Multipsk with Direct I/Q mode invoked  ,   CPU 
increases to 60%

Then RS ID in SDR /IQ direct  invoked, Multipsk uses 90% of 
my CPU.


The above is JUST Multipsk related, obviously other 
applications , like a web browser being open, add more 
demand.

My daughter is away skiing this weekend, so I may borrow 
her Vista laptop and do a comparison.  I do not know what is 
realistic  for Multipsk with all its SDR receive capability 
and RS ID.  I don;t really understand what actual 
performance increase one could expect if CPU was 3.0 Ghz 
rather than 2.3, Also not sure what performance improvement 
going to a dual core around the same clock speed would 
produce.  On my shack PC, Multipsk seems close , I am 
guessing if I could eek out another 10%  it would run just 
fine.  I'm reluctant to put more RAM in to an old machine, 
but I do have a compatible 1 Gig memory chip that i could 
pilfer from another PC and see if 2 gigs of RAM ease demand 
on the CPU.  I'm guessing it would not make much difference. 
I do have plenty of HD space.


Hope you and the family are all OK,

Andy.





Andy









On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net 
wrote:


 Andy,

I plan on switching to SDR in the near future. My current PC 
is a 

Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active.

2010-01-30 Thread Andy obrien
Well, you can run the SDR part of Multipsk (just press SDR  I/Q Direct
button in the configuration area, then press RX/TX to return to the main
screen.  Then you will see the SDR waterfall open up.  The problem is that
without an SDR, you will only get up to khz of signal, same as the regular
waterfall.  Som other than testing CPU load, it defeats the purpose.

I am guessing you are correct about the dual versus single core.  I may try
to minimize the other items that my PC boots at start up , but they aree not
listed by the Task Manager as taking much CPU.

Andy

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:



 Andy,

 Thanks for posting your CPU test results with Multipsk. Patrick mentioned
 that he doesn't think RAM is important in this case and adding more than the
 minimum memory requirement wouldn't change anything; I guess that leaves the
 processor.

 It just seems odd that there would be a large disparity in CPU
 usage since both processors run similar clock speeds (yours is actually
 faster). My Dell has a Pentium dual core E2200 and I'm wondering if the
 difference is due to the dual vs. single core?

 The CPU demand is based on maximizing Multipsk's tasks (SDR-
 Direct active, with full RS-ID on and regular waterfall at 4 Khz)

 Would it be possible for me to run the SDR feature without actually having
 and SDR rig attached? If so, how can I activate it?

 T



[digitalradio] Re: SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-01-30 Thread ed_hekman



Interesting comments, Andy.  

My goal is also to be able to monitor all the digital portions of the band and 
to be able to spot all call signs in any mode across the band.  CW Skimmer is a 
good model for that.  In addition, it would nice to be able to select a few 
segments of the band (~5 KHz span in each segment) and to be able to select a 
few specific signals in each segment for continuous decoding in various modes.  
 As far as I know MixW is the only package that can decode multiple modes 
simultaneously.  PSDR and SDR-Radio allow the selection of multiple segments (2 
for PSDR, 3 for SDR-Radio) but the integration with digital mode decoding is 
not built-in with the SDR software.

The hardware capability to do much of this is available in many of the 
computers in the consumer market.  A few benchmarks that I have are:

MultiPSK in 4.3KHz wide panoramic mode with I/Q direct interface:
Dual core CPU, E2180, 2.0 GHz, 2.5 GB memory - 25% CPU usage
Quad core CPU, Q8200, 2.33GHz, 4.0 GB memory - 12% CPU usage

On the Q8200:
SDR-Radio uses about 8% average.
DM780 uses about 8% maximum.

The total CPU usage on the E2180 was around 35% - 40% with these applications 
running:
MultiPSK in panoramic mode  the I/Q direct interface
HRD/DM780/Logbook
UI-View APRS
Weather Display

I replaced a 2.4 GHz single CPU/motherboard with the E2180 dual CPU/motherboard 
last year and was very pleasantly surprised at the increased 
capability/decreased CPU usage.  About 1GB per CPU core seems to be sufficient 
for ham radio usage.

Ed
WB6YTE


--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:

 One of the things that I wanted to accomplish with an SDR receiver,
 is the ability to keep an eye on the  whole 14065 to 14115 frequency
 range.  If I was down on 14074 monitoring ALE 400  traffic, I would
 miss Olivia signals that popped up in the 14109 area.  I would also
 miss Hell signals at 14068.  Now the SDR affords the opportunity to
 keep an eye all all at once.  My venture in to SDR from a digital mode
 perspective has led to a discovery that,  other than Multipsk, the
 current state of the art does not support direct monitoring of wider
 I/Q data.  I'm also challenged in that my PC cannot cope with the
 Multipsk CPU demand when I try direct monitoring.  So, at the moment I
 am visually monitoring signals with the SDR and using traditional
 software methods to decode the 3-4 kHz of audio that is fed from the
 SDR to applications like DM780  or Fldigi.
 
 At this screen shot http://www.obriensweb.com/sdrdm780.jpg
 
 you will see how it appears.  I am simply using DM780 and SDR-Radio
 software together.  When I need to transmit,  I just use my TS2000
 after dialing in the signal discovered by the SDR receiver.  Simon
 HB9DRV will likely integrate these two applications later in 2010.
 
 I did catch a Russian on RTTY this morning that I would have otherwise
 missed while I was slumming it in PSK31-land..  Multisk does RS-ID
 over this entire 14065-14115 portion, and DM780 is likely going to
 include this ability in the future.  If people use RS-ID often enough,
 it will be really cool to monitor 14065-14115 and get RS ID alerts.
 
 So, just over a week playing around with the SDR receiver... I see the
 potential... digital mode applications are not quite there yet.
 When they are there (as in Multipsk) my PC isn't.  This $41.00 Ebay
 PC may eventually get retired for a slightly improved one with better
 CPU. OK, back to keeping an eye on 14065-14115.  A-ha, an SV3 calling
 CQ RTTY, 14082.
 
 Andy K3UK





Re: [digitalradio] Re: SDR-Radio with DM780 20M Digital Band

2010-01-30 Thread Andy obrien
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:08 PM, ed_hekman ehek...@cox.net wrote:



 Interesting comments, Andy.

 My goal is also to be able to monitor all the digital portions of the band 
 and to be able to spot all call signs in any mode across the band. CW Skimmer 
 is a good model for that. In addition, it would nice to be able to select a 
 few segments of the band (~5 KHz span in each segment) and to be able to 
 select a few specific signals in each segment for continuous decoding in 
 various modes. As far as I know MixW is the only package that can decode 
 multiple modes simultaneously. PSDR and SDR-Radio allow the selection of 
 multiple segments (2 for PSDR, 3 for SDR-Radio) but the integration with 
 digital mode decoding is not built-in with the SDR software.



Ed, thanks.  You are way ahead of me on this stuff.  I have not tried
multiple segments yet, that will be interesting to try.  My maximum
is 192 Khz at the moment.  I expect that I will move to something like
an SDR-14 in the future and have 30 Mhz capability at some point.  I
am glad I did not plonk down a hard earned  thousand bucks to find out
that the software isn't;really  'ready yet, and that my PC's will
need a major upgrade.  So, I am happy with the learning curve at the
moment and will be better prepared when ready to move up in a serious
way.

PSK skimmers are essentially already within FLdigi, Multipsk,
Winwarbler, and DM780.  Broadening PSK callsign mining to four of  5
Khz segments should eventually be possible , and not very taxing.
RTTY skimming during a contest might require several 100 kHz segments,
that might be tougher than skimming the same bandwidth for CW signals.
 I suppose the serious digital mode skimmer would want to continually
keep an eye on all PSK31 and RTTY signals just like the CW enthusiasts
want all CW segments.  If there were eventually PSK31 and RTTY
skimmers, the remaining Olivia, Hell, MFSK16, and THOR signals would
be something most would happily manually watch/listen for.


Thanks for sharing your benchmarks.

Andy K3UK


[digitalradio] Is there a ham in SW Minneapolis/Bloomington who can help me to go digital?

2010-01-30 Thread w0xs_mpls
Having been inactive on the ham bands for a very long time I would like some 
help getting active on ditigal modes. RTTY was my favorite but I last worked 
stations on RTTY in the mid-1970's with a HAL TU and Model 28.

I'll happily pay for help from someone who has the expertise to help me with my 
software and equipment.

Icom IC-756PROII
microHAM Digi Keyer
1 1/2 year old HP desktop with Vista but I have Windows 7 to install
Logic8 logging software
TRX Manager
MixW version 2.19
HRD software suite

The help I need is to get my microHAM Digi Keyer working between my computer 
and PROII and to choose and set-up software for operating digital modes and for 
logging.

I've tried on my own to get Logic8 and TRX manager to work with no luck. I had 
MixW working on my previous computer but not having much luck with this one.

Advice I need would include which software (that I have or should get) is best 
for working digital modes, especially RTTY, and then help setting it up with 
macros.

My e-mail is w...@comcast.net if any local hams are interested in helping me 
out.

Thanks!!





Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with SDR-IQ Direct active.

2010-01-30 Thread Tony
Andy,

In my case, the CPU usage jumps to about 10% with the SDR 
function running; that's about 2 1/2 times what Multipsk 
uses when running without SDR.

Tony K2MO






  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy obrien
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 6:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multipsk- CPU tests with 
SDR-IQ Direct active.




  Well, you can run the SDR part of Multipsk (just press SDR 
I/Q Direct button in the configuration area, then press 
RX/TX to return to the main screen.  Then you will see the 
SDR waterfall open up.  The problem is that without an SDR, 
you will only get up to khz of signal, same as the regular 
waterfall.  Som other than testing CPU load, it defeats the 
purpose.

  I am guessing you are correct about the dual versus single 
core.  I may try to minimize the other items that my PC 
boots at start up , but they aree not listed by the Task 
Manager as taking much CPU.

  Andy



  On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net 
wrote:



Andy,

Thanks for posting your CPU test results with Multipsk. 
Patrick mentioned that he doesn't think RAM is important in 
this case and adding more than the minimum memory 
requirement wouldn't change anything; I guess that leaves 
the processor.

It just seems odd that there would be a large disparity 
in CPU usage since both processors run similar clock speeds 
(yours is actually faster). My Dell has a Pentium dual core 
E2200 and I'm wondering if the difference is due to the dual 
vs. single core?

The CPU demand is based on maximizing Multipsk's tasks 
(SDR-
Direct active, with full RS-ID on and regular waterfall 
at 4 Khz)

Would it be possible for me to run the SDR feature 
without actually having and SDR rig attached? If so, how can 
I activate it?

T